Redpill me on Net Neutrality
Redpill me on Net Neutrality
Mason Cook
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Asher Price
Mason Moore
reddit wants it
Isaac Rodriguez
main organization pushing for net neutrality is owned by george soros
Kayden Walker
>reddit wants it so im must be bad
KEK you are too dumb to do your own research
Tyler Foster
There are these corporations holding monopolies called ISPs. And they are paying people to kill Net Neutrality. Which would give ISPs more freedom to rape their consumers.
Can you connect the dots?
Cooper Walker
Some companies will get preferential treatment. It undermines the democratic intent when the internet was started. Facebook and google are already ultra powerful. Corporations are taking over everything
Evan Gutierrez
It's bad for inovation.
Hudson Barnes
The US was under the assumption that net neutrality laws applied for 30 years going. It wasn't until Verizon won a lawsuit about it that the rules no longer applied to them. They promptly began fucking everyone over:
2005 - Madison River Communications: Blocked VOIP services before the FCC put a stop to it.
cnet.co
2007 - Comcast: Caught forging packets to interfere with user traffic
eff.org
2007-2009 - AT&T: Blocked Skype and other VOIP services which competed with their cellphone plans
for.tn
2011 - MetroPCS: Tried to block all streaming except YouTube
wired.com
2011 - Multiple ISPs: Caught hijacking search traffic to increase affiliate revenue
eff.org
2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon: Blocked access to Google Wallet because it competed with their bullshit
freepress.net
2012 - Verizon: Demanded Google block tethering apps on Android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction.
fcc.gov
2012 - AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money.
nyti.ms
2013 - Verizon: Literally stated that the only thing stopping them from favoring some content providers over other providers were the net neutrality rules in place.
theatlantic.com
2017 - Verizon: Caught throttling customer data in direct violation of FCC Net Neutrality rules
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Michael Miller
In the short term, net neutrality seems good, but in the long term its honestly dangerous as it is in the GOVERNMENTS HANDS. This is a discussion of Government or Corporate Control. Which jew do you trust more? There are so many facets to this topic it will probably make your brainlet head spin. A simple redpill is impossible.
Evan Gutierrez
This, so its probably bad.
Plus Trump doesn't like it so its probably really bad. Just don't think about it critically.
Cameron Wood
Prove it. Give me a single "innovative" idea that could be created by allowing ISPs to control what content you can and cannot see.
Lincoln Bailey
>ISP blocks Sup Forums and VPNS
>user creates a bypass that any dumbfuck can use by making a VPN replacement
>Anons on ISP can bypass the block
Lincoln Davis
Is life as a brainwashed puppet good?
Josiah Walker
Lemme explain it in terms Sup Forums understands
(((ISPs))) installed one if their former chief executives as head of the FCC by bribing the administration. Said head of the FCC literally stated he wouldn't listen to the public on this claiming they are uninformed and is trying to enable ISPs to legally fuck over people worse than what my country currently had to deal with.
The best part is you tards posting in support of it don't realise that you wont be able to post here without paying for it and your ISP can and willblock any access to VPNs specifically so you are forced to pay their fees.
Levi Wright
>implying you'll be able to access Sup Forums from the VPN
James Parker
Which of these 3 scenarios is going to result in more anti-government websites being shut down?
Spoiler: It's the one where there is no net neutrality
Christian Rivera
I said VPN replacement, not a new VPN. Nice strawman.
Samuel Baker
IDK WHAT TO THINK!???? SOM PPL SAY IT GOOD
OTHER SAY IT BAD
I DONT KNOW. IT IS LIKE HTERE IS A SPLIT IN MY BRAIN???????
WHAT DO THINK. HLEP??? HLEP?????
Dominic Cox
>you wont be able to post here without paying for it
citation needed.
Adam Mitchell
It's something we wouldn't need if consumers had several ISPs to choose from. It's a consequence of all the regulations that make it difficult for people to open new ISPs that compete with companies like Comcast.
In a completely de-regulated market, we wouldn't need net neutrality because companies that screw their customers over would lose their customers to ISPs that compete better.
Chase Jones
I've been trying to piece this together but it's all such a confusing clusterfuck.
At the moment I feel this way: abolish net neutrality. Far more likely than the meme internet packages is companies paying ISPs to push their traffic so they BOTH make money. Netflix gets more expensive and google is a bit less profitable; porn sites get more expensive and lots of free porn sites die and ads on the remaining become more valuable, but otherwise things stay the same.
If censorship arises we fight that as a singular issue rather than an enormous tome of a law. It can be one sentence long:
>No censorship of lawful material.
Jordan Ross
If Net Neutrality stays, the government will regulate that ISPs cannot charge different prices for different sets of sites, destroying the need for innovation
If Net Neutrality is abolished, ISPs will be able to charge you for packages, like cable. This would encourage growth and technological advancement(fibre, quantum link, etc.)
I would love to see NN abolished, just to see the potential chaos. I think that it would be funny as hell. Like a nuclear bomb, but for the internet.
Also, plebbit supports it
Evan Barnes
This taiwanese recipe board will be over if it ends
Oliver Foster
Once its gone you'll be luck if you can access Sup Forums, infowars, breitbart, etc at all.
if you can you'll likely have to pay a premium
but Sup Forums manchildren are against it because reddit likes it so it must be bad
Samuel Hill
And other monopolies such as Google and Facebook want preferential treatment of not paying more for the bandwidth they soak up from ISPs and thus want net neutrality. Get rid of it and pit the two groups against each other.
Grayson Bennett
I dont suppose you understand. No Net Neutrality, means alot of autists are now shut off from places where they are able to blow steam. It legitimately sets the civil war bomb on pressure cooker mode. No Net Neutrality speeds up the collapse, nigger.
David Ross
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Ethan Rivera
if only we lived in a place where guns were stupidly easy to get for the specific intent of combating tyranny
Jaxon Gomez
do you support our anti-trust laws? Do they work? There's your answer on why net neutrality is complete garbage. More government interference.
Josiah Turner
Basically turns the internet from capitalism to socialism, it'll hinder it's evolution
Juan Collins
People who support net neutrality complain about hypothetical but improbable catered internet service packages on a per website basis, while paying monthly for individual online services anyway, just to individual companies instead of their ISP. Because they are fucking stupid and easily manipulated.
Adam Allen
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Ethan Diaz
>innovation
Innovate bandwidth, but websites you want to access are now blocked. Genius plan.
Colton Green
In a single line
>Absence of net neutrality allows ISPs (that are essentially monopolies already) the freedom to charge what the fuck they want for what they want
It's gon rekt yo' shit.
Camden Gutierrez
> Romania didn't have it until June of this year and still had the BEST internet in the west
> Corporate shills want it
> Reddit too
> Libs too
Camden Kelly
This is THE best shill tactic ever used here.
Just say that reddit likes the opposite of what you want and you'll instantly have Sup Forums doing your shilling for you for free.
Adam Gutierrez
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Jayden Campbell
This may be the ONLY time I'd probably side with George Soros.
Andrew Anderson
Did I? I want to see everything go to shit, the faster we can get autists off Sup Forums, the faster that we can start this war and gas the kikes and their useful idiot pawns.
Austin Wood
"if they could do us wrong, we wouldn't have elected them in the first place, right? yessir, trust in the judgement of other people to know what's best for me. It's the american way!" ~ nathaniel vargas
Connor King
You just got manipulated by the fucking ISPs!
Adam Kelly
but they do want it
Kayden Rogers
Holy shit
Samuel Allen
As shown by Stormfront, if the tech cabal decides that a website should no longer be allowed to exist, they can make that happen regardless of existing FCC regulation.
Mason Butler
FCC will also order states to scrap plans for their own net neutrality laws
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Christian Morgan
>govt control
>big jew corporation control
There is no difference, but the latter will accelerate the future happening, thus it must be done.
Wyatt Jones
imagine being this simple minded and thinking everything is black and white
you'll see soon enough
Adam Richardson
seeit will only become easier
Grayson Barnes
Soros wants nn
So it is bad
Jaxson Walker
Are you autistic, who the fuck can enforce net neutrality if not the government. Might as well let corporations write laws directly and cut out the middleman
Are you an idiot and dont think that those companies already pay for bandwidth? Net neutrality is about not being restricted in how you use your bandwidth and that you don't get charged extra depending on which address you send/receive data from. You don't get charged extra to send letters to a specific address while the house next door does, yes?
Dominic Wilson
And they are correct in that.
But Sup Forums is so stuck in their blind reddit hate that they don't even consider that they may be right. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Adam Richardson
net neutrality is something people post about and botnets too
Cooper Morris
There is a huge different, retard. Govt control isn't essentially retarded. It is corrupt, often. But if a miracle happens and the right people govern, then nothing all goes to shit. Corporate control, on the other hand, is essentially for profit. Corporations will NEVER do anything for you.
Alexander Cox
Soros breathes air
Go drown yourself
Kayden Phillips
Thats already the case. I want to see shit fall apart anyway while I watch the cities burn from the hills.
Jose Smith
It was nice knowing you non-moronic Americans. I guess we'll see each other again after The War.
Jacob Jackson
This sounds like a not true communism argument. Corporations innovated that iphone X your stupid shitskin ass types on
Isaac Bennett
>never do anything for you
but they will for a group of poeple, because as they are jewish, they want to soak up the most cash.
Colton Gray
reversing it will make porn harder to get, so do the right thing, reverse it, user
Luis Mitchell
>Net neutrality: A road network where everybody has equal right to drive on the road
and everybody obeys the same speed limit
>Net non-neutrality: Corporations can pay to get priority access to roads so only they and their customers can drive on them or drive as fast as they want.
If you guys think ending net neutrality is a good idea you are dumb fucktards. This is the point where you point out the flaws in my analogy.
Parker Bell
10th amendment... going back to the US constitution
Jose Walker
Only so they could charge for the new iphone Y. The government can't profit off people unless it's corrupt. Something designed to profit off you is always worse than something not designed to profit off you.
Nathaniel Brown
Cause the government workers do it for free. It's all about the goodness of their heart.
Anthony Torres
>a road network that is beaten in quality by romania
always britbongs
Cooper Walker
he wants it to collapse. he thinks this will be a step towards making it collapse.
Anthony White
>romania also has other regulations in place to protect consumers
Think about it
Julian Baker
don't want to be "that guy", but you're misinformed
Joshua Carter
>And they are correct in that.
no
Joseph Evans
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Hunter Reed
>Corporations can pay to get priority access
Your analogy is flawed because the ISPs will gouge the shit out of both the corporations and the customers individually.
Liam Parker
>shitskin
Lol. Amerimutt
Brayden Hill
It's a Communist idea
Andrew Young
>Some vehicles, like those carrying oversized loads or trucks filled with rocks cause considerably more wear and tear on the roadways than passenger cars. But, because everybody has the same access to the same road, everybody pays the same toll even though a small portion of the traffic creates the bulk of the need for road repairs.
K
Jose Bell
>In a completely de-regulated market, we wouldn't need net neutrality because companies that screw their customers over would lose their customers to ISPs that compete better.
Dream on. Ever heard of an oligopoly? That's what this scenario boils down to. A few big providers split up the market among themselves and take turns in screwing the consumer. And you a hundred shekels, sites that are controversial or go against the mainstream business agenda won't get any bandwith. Because the big players that pay will OWN the internet. Government regulation certainly isn't ideal and we all know how governments have their own way of screwing people over - but it's still the better scenario, trust me. Censorship today is different from what it used to be in Soviet Russia, it comes by the tyranny of the mainstream and is funded by $$$.
Ryan Cruz
STOP PUTTING BANDAIDS ON BULLET HOLES
BUILD MORE ISP INFRASTRUCTURE TRUMP
MAGA
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Luis Perry
The internet is the only place where people can freely exchanged information to the masses, so naturally the Jews want to control it. Just like they control the six corporations that control 90% of American media, they also want that kind of control over the internet.
Gavin Cooper
fuck out of here Mohammed
Dylan Parker
kill yourself
Hunter James
Net neutrality bill gives the government control of the internet.
Thinking the net neutrality bill will guarantee net neutrality is like believing the patriot act will make you a patriot.
Xavier Long
or that the DPRK is a democracy
Ryder Reyes
>ISPs will gouge the shit out of both the corporations and the customers individually
This makes a difference how? Corporations like Google, Netflix and Facebook will pay up from their lunch money.
Kayden Cox
>Thinking the net neutrality bill will guarantee net neutrality is like believing the patriot act will make you a patriot.
So well fucking put.
Justin Bennett
Excellent rebutal. Time to grab the old Browning BPS and shoot myself in the back of the head with it.
Jayden Gray
the vote won't pass, there are too many people in opposition to it
Nolan Wood
Pretty much giving ISP's free reign to control and meter content... If this is not a genuine concern to you.. you don't understand it ...
Alexander Garcia
Because it'll come directly out of the consumer's pocket too.
Hudson Rodriguez
so you're saying you'd be a shabbos goy by friday if reddit went full 1488 tomorrow. fuck off with your bullshit.
Charles Evans
the meltdown from this will be worse than 2016 election
Luke Russell
hurry up
Connor Williams
because it's true you fucking dribbler
Adrian Garcia
better than government control
Kevin Roberts
>And I'll bet you a hundred shekels...
Sebastian Walker
>Net neutrality bill gives the government control of the internet.
It already has it, and we're still here. Give it to (((corporations))) and you think it'll get better? Ask South American and African nations how privatization of utilities worked out for them.
Jackson Miller
he breathes air while he's fucking your pussy faggot
Samuel Cooper
Inb4 "muh free market will sort itself out eventually this country is better"
James Gray
>because you're paying for Google and Facebook today
u wot m8
And you're basically making my point for me. If supposedly Google gets rekt, what do you think is going to happen to places like the chans?
Landon Mitchell
corporations do much better to increase quality than the gooberment ever will. Look at Switzerland ffs. Decentralized government, corporations are king.. amazing quality of life
Noah Russell
who you gonna gouge for cash, the big corporation with a bunch of kike lawyers or joe from iowa that just wants to jack off to cuckold porn and watch netflix?
Camden Nelson
Are you really going to play that card?
How is it govt controlled ?