Are amphetamines degenerate?

I know you guys are perma virgins and hate weed but what do you think of amphs? The Nazis used them so they can't be all bad

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>Are amphetamines degenerate?
As long as you’re not getting high on them, no.

poor man's coke

I prefer diet coke, sounds better

they fuck you up in the long run. not worth. i took them over 1 year, it was good in the beginning but then the side effects were too strong to deal with it.

Amphetamines are redpilled as long as you use them to be productive

like what?

in moderation its ok, Hitler took them, so did many soldiers in the German Army during ww2...i used to take them for adhd, really helps you focus and get shit done, im thinking about trying to get back on a prescription soon so i can just crush life every day

I used adrafinil for a month on and off and the tolerance is atrocious
Fuck this shit, sobriety is okay

Pure Dextroamp in tablet form. No side effects, retain your appetite, and can microdose as needed.

You will be fine unless you are a weakling and get addicted. I've used the same dose for over 4 years. Also helps if you are in a math or science field.

how about just keep a good healthy diet instead?

How much would you say a 10 mg adderal pill goes for on a US university campus?

they should not be taken regularly. Performance enhancers for your brain when taken sparingly and in moderation.

I'm a lawyer and use them occasionally as an extra aid when I have lots of research/writing to do. They are amazing for task saliency. Actually make you motivated and excited to do boring shit.

yet vastly superior

Ever since I used those things as a kid I can't feel motivated to do anything. They completely burned me out.

5$

I love them. Probably not very good for you in the long run tho. I think it probably does a lot of damage to your brain to be popping adderall everyday.

true except for social status

I've taken them a few times. Gave me actual motivation for once in several years. They'll fuck you up in a special kind of way after prolonged use. Lately I'm been popping Gabapentin like crazy which kinda gives me the same motivation. I'm going to end up destroying my receptors. At least my brain is done developing at my age. Kill me bros.

T. Work in a university hospital and have talked to some medical students. Adderall is shit though compared to dextroamphetamine, which are 10$ each

Where do you get them?

I don't take them but I have an old bottle that was proscribed to me as a child.
They are still viable being regular amph salts.
I have them for combat, same with every bottle of opiates I've ever been given by a doctor.

Just get yourself together asshole, your attention and mood will fall into place once you put in the effort. Adderal doesnt fix bad habits because it doesnt confront them, the same way cigarettes dont medicate anxiety.

If you have the discipline to only use them for specific tasks, they can be a nice tool. If you have problems with addictions, stay miles from them, because they're similar to cocaine and you'll keep hitting them until they're gone and then you'll go out looking for them. If you get strung out, you're useless and you'll just end up jerking off all day.

Fuck that. I got fucked up by an NHS pajeet surgery that left me with a constant feeling of being kicked in the balls like that vomit, tears and rage type of kick in the balls. So they put you on opiates, luckily it's not your system so I only get ER morphine, 2 years later never once been high only ever for pain yet its fucked my stomach and mental abilities until I decided to cold turkey it and tolerate the pain for peace of mind. Not even fucking once trust me, best intentions will not help you and neither will strength. Muh anecdotal evidence is fair cause after all how many 20 somethings randomly get staph infections in their left ball for seemingly no reason.

>I have them for combat, same with every bottle of opiates I've ever been given by a doctor.

Smart man. Well prepared for the race war

if you use them you are getting high on them. the therapeutic effect and the recreational effect are one in the same. dont fool yourself, its just as therapeutic as meth.

30 mg for 5 on my campus

that said, i believe both should be legal and available OTC to adults.

is meth degenerate

10mg sucks unless you're a skinny girl. mine as well just drink coffee.

I've done meth once. It wasn't much different from strong adderall.

They do serious damage to your reward system. If you have no motivation, you'll take the amphetamines and you'll have the time of your life cleaning up cat shit or or clipping coupons. Then when you don't have them and you have to do a similar task, it seems even worse than it did before. Keep doing this, and you're fucked.

I'm currently on the back end of an engineering program and do research in a robotics lab. My doctor happens to have an engineering degree as well and he decided to be a homeboy and write me a prescription for it.

I'm sure you can find it online though, Just gotta be careful with the quality. Also, STAY AWAY from vyvance or anything that will make you feel bad or give you headaches. This shit should never give you side effects. 10mg tablets are enough.

10mg isnt shit. I can take 30mg several times a day if im on a bender

This is probably the best advice of all.

what are the side effects of long term use?

i tried meth ironically a while back just to get it off my bucket list and i couldn't focus for shit. it was a lot of fun and its a white man's drug but i'd say its definitely degenerate as fuck.

After being prescribed them for awhile all was well. Then when I blacked out while taking a piss I dropped them faster than EA drops out shitty IOS/Android games.

It's definitely degenerate. Just makes you wanna stay up all night and talk.

White collar steroids.

>I know you guys are perma virgins and hate weed but what do you think of amphs? The Nazis used them so they can't be all bad


Eat them like candy. They're good for you.

I've been on them for 2 years now, I don't use it ever day and take 2 week-1 month breaks between usage. It's a need to use basis only and I've only noticed an increase in productivity and decrease in procrastination as a whole when taking it.

I've been able to work 80 hours a week + over time for the last 2 years because of adderall. My doses are 2 months dosing at 15mg two times a day, then after a tolerance break I return to 20mg twice a day for another 2 months.

As long as you reset your tolerance, you won't get that zombified feeling from a constant increase in dopamine, as well as epinephrine (adrenaline). The main things are the increase in dopamine and norepinephrine (fight or flight). It doesn't take a smart person to know if you were to constantly take amphetamine, all of those chemicals are going to be constantly stimulated, resulting in your brain no longer naturally producing these chemicals. If you were to take it everyday for a year and quit , you'd be insanely depressed, fatigued, lethargic as fuck, probably even physical withdrawal symptoms like body aching, cold/flu symptoms, etc. When taking them as needed and taking breaks all together once you reach or surpass the dose you are used to taking and achieving productive results without getting you high.

If not used recreationally then no. I see no difference between taking amphetamines in the morning to someone self medicating their lazyness with gallons of coffee

>side effects were too strong to deal with it.

Like what? I get sixty 20 mg Adderrall a month and I'm curious as to what you mean. Lost my prescription a couple months back and didn't have any problems outside of a slight crave sometimes.

im pretty sure its a genetic thing. some people seem to just "click" with amphetamines and it can take control of their lives very quickly.
t. am one of these people. its intense but i have to be wary.

They get you high. They fire up the reward center of your brain. Whether this is worthwhile for you and your brain chemistry and your life is another thing, but they get you high, period. They can be incredibly useful but let's not pretend.

Interesting, I know a girl that said she was addicted to them and snorted them. Something I don't understand doing, except when one got crushed in my pocket and it was on my fingers.

hits you faster, has an oomph to it

snorting is degenerate and a waste. take adderall orally for maximum feeling for the longest duration.

Modern day pilots use them.

Bad because they make people with adhd content, They are the people that would usually fix shit in our world but now theyre becoming robots

coke is WAY superior to amphetamine but only if you have fuck you money to keep it going for as long as amphs last. now if you're a weekend warrior who blows his paycheck on 2 hours of pretending to be that rich then yeah it's a total fucking joke but richfags can use it "properly".

You just need to be careful with them because while they are incredibly useful and relatively safe in the correct doses, abuse can really fuck you up. When I first started using them I was diagnosed with adhd but had no insurance so I tried a friends to see if they worked. They were really useful, I found. Then so started abusing them and it took me a few weeks to even realize it. It just kind of happened. I was staying up all night and jacking off for like 8 hours even though I usually don't enjoy porn or playing vidya. I noticed how things had gone down and quit using them for a while and got my mind right before I began using them again for the right reasons. There was no side affect from quitting except being tired for a few days because you've just put your body through hell.

It was nothing like quitting smoking. I was over it in a day and didn't have cravings or anything.

I've been in 30mg of Vyvanse for a couple of weeks now, and I don't feel any different. The only thing that happened was me feeling a bit more awake on the first day I started taking them

arent those things supposed to work straight away

Modafinil is replacing it fast. Strictly for the application of staying awake and alert for long periods, amphetamines are becoming a lot less acceptable when alternatives exist that can do that just as well without any of that pesky "fun".

I think you should do alll the drugs at once, right now loser.

>I know you guys are perma virgins and hate weed

"In the early onset group, we found that how many times an individual uses and the amount of marijuana used strongly relates to the degree to which brain development does not follow the normal pruning pattern. The effects observed were above and beyond effects related to alcohol use and age. These findings are in line with the current literature that suggest that cannabis use during adolescence can have long-term consequences," said Filbey.

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However, in this study, MRI results reveal that the more marijuana early onset users consumed, the greater their cortical thickness, the less gray and white matter contrast, and the less intricate the gyrification, as compared to late onset users. These three indexes indicate that when participants began using marijuana before age 16, the extent of brain alteration was directly proportionate to the number of weekly marijuana use in years and grams consumed. Contrastingly, those who began using marijuana after age 16 showed brain change that would normally manifest later in life: thinner cortical thickness, stronger gray and white matter contrast.
sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/02/160210135334.htm

Go ahead and spew out whatever insults you want to make yourself feel better about pop culture and Hollywood jewing you into frying your brain with that garbage. I could cite dozens and dozens of studies.

Coke lasts like 30 minutes max and you can’t really do strenuous activities that require some hardcore focusing and concentration. Vyvanse is extremely smooth and lasts like 8 hours for me, and even when I abuse it in doses above 100 mg I still prefer it to coke because of its smoothness and usefulness. Coke seems to be useless imo. When I’m on amphetamine my thoughts are deeper, more complex, and more organized; whereas coke they’re just more scattered. I see why Hitler later on switched from cocaine to methamphetamine.

>kids shouldn't do drugs
riveting findings

I don't understand all the stories of abuse and addiction.

I've been taking Dexedrine for almost a year now, and I've never, ever felt the urge to increase my dose past 30mg. I usually stick with 20-25mg 5x a week and take a break on the weekends.
But I've seriously never felt the need to continuously do it, never felt serious urges to take higher amounts. It honestly just allows me to feel normal, focus, not fall asleep inappropriately (driving) and generally makes my moods more controllable/resilient.

I read that it takes an hour to kick in. Some days I'll wake up and forget to take them for a couple hours, and when I take them I don't feel any different than I did before I took them

being on amphetamines isnt feeling normal

Whats the difference between adderall and rittalin? I was prescribed the latter and it helped me tremendously this semester

wow i took 2.5mg of dextroamphetamine once and it was almost a life changing experience

I've seen people high on that taking their own families as hostage.

It sounds like you don't have an addictive personality. Others are not as lucky.

i get what you're saying, but some people are genuinely missing certain things in their brain chemistry that a proper dose can smoothly mitigate. not that it isn't over-prescribed and abused terribly all the time.

this saved me so many times in school. and at the time they were cheap as fuck. I did prefer the blue solids however because they were easier to crush. these little balls can hurt make it like sniffing rocks

I can't think of anything else other than some genetic difference.

I've tried my share of coke, downers, alcohol, cigarettes, more than enough times, but I've never felt the desire to do more. I just accept that it was a fun time and I don't need to engage in it again.
Yes I suppose that's true. However my sober normal is either me falling asleep throughout the day or feeling like I've been drugged/thinking through molasses.

Faggot

Coke is shit and not worth the money.

Amphetamines have been proven to permanently harm your brains ability to produce dopamine, due to damage of the dopamine receptors.

Vyvanse is lisdexamfetamine, not dextroamphetamine

to be fair people with actual adhd are already basically retarded their are so many meme adhd cases on reddit etc its easy to think its fake

I heard BPC-157 can reverse the long term effects

is vyvanse not effective

It turns you into a bisexual sex fiend

What does Sup Forums think of 3-FPM?

didn't work on me, I don't know anyone with ADHD ADD that it works on.

my experience from being friends with a rich coke user is that as long as you can keep throwing money at bags of good coke you can keep it going almost all day. it's absurdly expensive and addictive and brain damaging but if you're rich enough you can use it as a lifestyle. i've seen fat lines last two hours. if you're relatively poor and can only get a gram at a time then it feels like the drug is mocking you but if you're on some fleetwood mac shit you can make some fleetwood mac shit

I was prescribed addy at 10yo and stayed on till 25, im 30 now and still have cravings although im genius in some ways because of it id rather not have done it. Weed and workout is actually the best thing i found to help come off it, especially if you need sleep.

>Nazis used them so they can't be all bad

I know it's bad for you. But, God, I love taking them.

Coke kills you worse and faster than meth if done consistently. Meth is only regarded as worse due to its cheapness.
Coke is weak as fuck anyway. And the comedown off coke is 100x worse than meth.
When you come down off meth you just get hungry and tired.

30mg IR twice a day.
It was great at first now i swear they switched it out with a placebo. Or its working as it should. I've never felt high or anything like that so i cant relate to that. Doctor said something about people with ADHD dont get a high like abusers do, or something like that i wasn't really paying attention

trump takes vyvanse and hes a teetotaler so i trust them in moderation

Nope. I still have no focus, energy, or motivation.

everyone i know (including myself) who grew up taking them is hyper sexual or violent. they made me lose weight so i started selling my extras in high school/college to preps and junkies, but they DO help if you need to sit down and crush out a paper. Only problem is, you'll probably be typing incoherent trash..

they would be useful for a totally expendable soldier who needs to be hyper vigilant in an ultra dangerous situation, however, its truly a travesty that they perscribe the shit to kids.
>t. former mixed martial artist who fought for no reason but the insane desire for blood

i'm not saying coke isn't terrible for you, i am saying people who complain about how short lived and useless and expensive coke is aren't the intended users, so to speak. if you're a self destructive trust fund kid then it's totally viable and you can get things done.

>ONLY If you have the self control to not reach the amphetamine event horizon.

This is essentially where the amphetamine molecule causes too much dopamine and norepinephrine to be released into your CNS thus rendering it no longer therapeutic but dopaminergic. This is only possible if you take a dosage higher then your own therapeutic threshold.
This is why all doctors who perscribe it always start as low as possible and gradually work it’s way up in dosage to achieve the best individual therapeutic yield.

If you go over the event horizon wether intentional or by accident, there is essentially no going back. If it was a high enough dosage you’ll get the dragon feeling and the brain will always remember it and subconsciously try to reacquire it over time.
However with amphetamines you can easily reach the dragon state multiple times because of it’s long effects, low half life and general stimulant nature.
Everyone is different on how much pleasure : side effect ratio thiers is. Lots of people simply do not like it or don’t care for the feeling at all. Whereas some people love the effects.

Basically with Amphs just be self aware of what the drug does to you and why it’s highly regulated. Try not to tip over the edge, never re-up the dose yourself and listen to your (((doctor))) it’s simply the safest way to maximize its potential without intentional abuse.

If you can achieve all that and not be a fucking dumbass to use it get high. Amphetamines are literal god mode. You become less of a human and more of a working thinking being. What I mean is that it basically supresses most instinctual behavior during it’s effects (hunger, sleep, fatigue, sex drive) and lets your mind open up to rapid thought and processing, like an overclock.
Basically it’s the closest thing we have to that pill in the movie Limitless.. just with much lower active effects.

>tl;dr
Speed is godly. Don’t fucking abuse it.

you seem pretty high. not that there's anything wrong with that but take an honest look at what you just typed

all you have should be saved for when the tides change and it's time for our next blitzkrieg

>Basically it’s the closest thing we have to that pill in the movie Limitless..
this is probably true, though its still garbage that rots your mind and will leave you an emotionless retard if you ever stop taking it
>Speed is godly. Don't fucking abuse it
ehhhh.... its good but let me put it like this, if you can't accomplish the task at hand without speed pills (assuming you didn't procrastinate), you were never cut for that task to start off with.

Amphetamines basically destroyed my life. I would avoid them if I were you.

he sounds like he actually enjoys being a reptilian

I can't function with out them. Post-concussion ADHD like symptoms are life ruining for me without 40mg Vyvanse a day.

Believe me I wish I could avoid taking it, but it makes me back to 90% of what I was

They also cut back on them heavily once they realized the full extent of the side effects. If the Third Reich had survived it would have gone full anti drug eventually, even more so than they ever were for smoking.

this to everything else you said. as i hinted earlier, speed pills might help people write, but the end result is incoherent drivel until someone has proof read it sober.