FALANGE ESPAÑOLA DE LAS JONS

Benjamin Davis
Benjamin Davis

I saw another falangist thread but it was already archived when I arrived. Here's another one.
ARRIBA ESPAÑA!!!!

Post your falangist pictures and thoughts.

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot0NuvbGAGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAMkb6QgyMs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLo66bEPzsE
https://discord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jjmD0unx5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhfZOH7pmEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn6y2jzso4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55R4OxcASyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8yrt6IwwI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyaBgyDaAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hU0Xkm7noY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IToj2hXmGxM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWZI9kPKrf4
Eli Foster
Eli Foster

what would have been a Spain under his commands?

Jason Allen
Jason Allen

POR FRANCO!

Nathaniel Walker
Nathaniel Walker

Falange is for retards, carlism is better

Andrew Morgan
Andrew Morgan

I must say, that even I'm grateful to him for saving Spain from the red trash, I feel like there could been some better leader.

Mason Martinez
Mason Martinez

Arriba hermanos!

Liam Flores
Liam Flores

Well carlism is absolutly dead as a movement this days

Jose Roberts
Jose Roberts

Pfff any true falangist would appreceate Franco, he killed the movement

Jacob Edwards
Jacob Edwards

That's part of antispanish propaganda known as "La leyenda negra antiespañola". It's most fake, my brave spanish ancestors made them the most rich territories of the world.

Parker Phillips
Parker Phillips

Official antheem of the thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot0NuvbGAGo

and for new tastes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAMkb6QgyMs

Lincoln Wright
Lincoln Wright

Well it's true but the national band couldn't stand division like in the popular front. That would been death for us

Blake Jones
Blake Jones

but at least they're intelligent, while Falangists were always about form, aesthetics and shouting, which is why this was a movement for loud retards

Sebastian Campbell
Sebastian Campbell

The tercios anthem and the "aspa de borgoña" (the red cross) makes me a boner

Grayson Bailey
Grayson Bailey

Tio que soy Español jaja solo estoy en corea, ya me se lo de la leyenda negra y la antipropaganda tanto de ingleses como holandeses

Owen Powell
Owen Powell

Dude I think you don't know enough about falange. If you say postwar falange it may be some true in that, but prewar it was a very intelectual movement. I recomend you to look some of Jose Antonio, Ramiro Ledesma or Onesimo Redondo.

Alexander Myers
Alexander Myers

Bueno bueno y como iba yo a saberlo? jajajajaa

Bentley James
Bentley James

I know he should have joined the Axis

Hunter Bennett
Hunter Bennett

You guys are alright. We Northern europeans are very much dependent on you guys. One thing I hate about nordicists, they don't understand our survival is dependent on our alliance with the meds. If the meds ally themselves with North Africa and the Muslims the North is doomed. In the Medieval ages we realized this early on so we tried to incorporate as much of Southern Europe into European culture as possible by sending you some royals.

Owen Wood
Owen Wood

Yes it's true, he sended the blue division tho, they were heroes and what they did in krasni Bor it's astonishing.

Brody Allen
Brody Allen

Well my country literally formed fighting against muslims so we're not allying ourselves with them. Also meds create Europe with the roman empire, so i don't really see how you're going to integrate us in "europe culture".

Bentley Hill
Bentley Hill

Well you have your own European culture we pale skins aren't made for Southern Europe. Hitler also never even had interest in ruling over the Balkans and was furious when Mussolini invaded Greece. It is well known among national socialists that Germanics need a harsh climate to thrive in so our goal has always been to the Urals and not the warm south

Cooper Martinez
Cooper Martinez

Well that's because Hitler was the chancellor of Germany, not Europe. He wanted his lebbensraum for his german volk, nothing to do with the rest of Europe. Also if you come here to some place like Galicia, they are so pale too because there is a cold clima. This image of the brown spanish is a meme, there are warm zones with more tan people and cold ones.

Colton Turner
Colton Turner

I wish they killed more fascist priests.

Ian Gomez
Ian Gomez

If I am correct; Falangism and Strasserism are a strongly socialist and anti capitalist version of Nazism. I’m ok with it, as long as Communism is not endorsed.

Sebastian Gomez
Sebastian Gomez

UNA GRANDE Y LIBRE!

Carter Sullivan
Carter Sullivan

That’s the one thing hitler did horribly wrong, not encouraging pan european brotherhood and relations. Himmler is to blame and I hope himmler is rotting in hell. Europeans are brothers locked in arms to fight to preserve Europe and her many children, the Spanish, the anglos, the Nordic, the Germans, the Slavs, and the medeteranians are all european children and their blood flows through her. We need to unite to save our homelands and create ethno states for Europe's many ethnicities.

Austin Gutierrez
Austin Gutierrez

Well i don't think it's like strasserism, it's 3rd position too. Even tho they did give importance to sindicates, they were strong defenders of private property and against class fight. They just wanted to intervene the economy and corporations that do not serve Spain interest.

Robert Wilson
Robert Wilson

I think it would be good a European Fascist Union or something like that, but i'm not rennouncing to being spanish. I see my country as a glorius milenary legacy that we must protect, and diluding it with other countrys is something i do not want.

Elijah King
Elijah King

Go fuck yourself meme flagger

Matthew Gray
Matthew Gray

As Any nazi or fascist would. Ultimate goal of a fascist economy is to prevent outside influence from foreign and corporate interests on the state and people. I support you Spanish user, and cheers to beating the Soviet backed rebels in 43.

Jaxon Garcia
Jaxon Garcia

Start reading Mosley’s work. Mosley visioned a Europe with a council of ethno states represented by unified races of all of Europe. I am a Mosley fascist and have forever agreed to promoting his version of fascism vs Mussolini’s. One party state representatives elected to a european council that were elected by their own racial natives.

Joseph Taylor
Joseph Taylor

Thank you leafbro, one more battle to be proud of.

Adam Martin
Adam Martin

I must admit I haven't seen much of him. Any recomendations?

Wyatt Morales
Wyatt Morales

eso o estas usando una VPN y sabes español :^)

Thomas Phillips
Thomas Phillips

cruz de borgoña FTFW

Samuel Brooks
Samuel Brooks

Definitely start with Fascism, 100 questions asked, 100 questions answered.

Chase Bailey
Chase Bailey

cuando te das cuenta que estamos jodidos LoLazo X D todo gracias a los politicos ineptos

Hunter Kelly
Hunter Kelly

I'm reading it, thanks user!

Christopher Allen
Christopher Allen

Falangism is a strongly socialist and anti capitalist version of Nazism
No not really.
Falangism is a syndicalist fascism. It is against capitalism but it's also against socialism.
It might seem socialist because its politics revolve a lot around protecting the proletariat but it's very strong on defending the companies and entrepeneurs as well.

It uses a vertical system where entrepeneurs and workers of each industry are bonded to the same branch rather than creating two horizontal distributions putting companies over the proletariat. It's not an autarchy but each branch has self-governance capabilities.

I don't think I'm fluid enough with my english to elaborate much on this but think of Mosley's ideal regime: totalitarian Goverment with democratic parlament where each collective participates as a whole.

Of course the movement got hijacked years ago by Franco and changed dramatically. We have like 6 Falanges now in Spain? I don't remember.

Noah Jenkins
Noah Jenkins

Awesome, anything to help an ally. European blood is what makes us brothers.

Chase Carter
Chase Carter

Pero jodidisimos eh, lo mejor que tenemos en el congreso es VOX y parece que solo tendrán 1 escaño...

Brayden Robinson
Brayden Robinson

Thank you for the more detailed definition, and yes agreed. I do however disagree with totalitarianism being involved in mosley’s Interpertation of fascism. Authoritarianism is definitely present though and Mosley was very supportive of direct election of the one party representative who would be held to account by the people directly.

Andrew Hughes
Andrew Hughes

I want to get into Falangism, what should I start reading?

James Cox
James Cox

cada vez que me meto en un hilo de esto y veo que todavía quedamos por españa me entra una añoranza por los viejos tiempos, cuando no habia tanto maricón y degenerado y me apena ver el estado de españa a dia de hoy cuando vas por madrid centro ver una puta bancarta que pone refugees welcome me asquea, ya bastante tenemos con los putos moros que hay aquí y quieren traer mas aun de siria y ver como cada vez hay mas putos rojos lavandoles la cabeza a los adolescentes y jovenes ,el estado de la familia real a día de hoy da pena y mas aun da saber como era todo pocos años atras, esta no es la españa por la que la gente luchó, con los putos catalanes queriendo independizarse tambien, que paso con el españa una, españa grande y españa libre? cuando a dia de hoy somos esencialmente las putitas de merkel... y que a pesar de ello me sienta orgulloso de vivir y estar en estas tierras, pues al final y al cabo se que no soy el único que desea que este pais recupere su vieja gloria

Nathan Anderson
Nathan Anderson

Start with "textos revolucionarios", a book of jose antonio

Jaxon Young
Jaxon Young

Oh that's new to me then. I had no idea.
I thought totalitarism was a good idea for Mosley since he's royalty, his family alredy held a lot of support from the people and it ensures the preservation of the values and Goverment. Thanks for the clarification.

Jackson Moore
Jackson Moore

Is falangism as a alive as fascism in Italia ? After the few footage that i saw of fascists reunions in Italia, I was surprised that there were so many people still supporting it!

Jack Gutierrez
Jack Gutierrez

Totalmente amigo, es asqueroso el estado de nuesto país hoy en dia. Ir por la calle aqui en Barcelona y no parar de ver trapos independentistas y moros por todos lados...

Dylan Howard
Dylan Howard

Lo gracioso es que aqui en valencia en respuesta a la mierda independentista la gente ha empezado a colgar las banderas de españa en los balcones en plan esto es españa. me alegra ver aunque sea un minimo de patriotismo y amor por lo que representa esa bandera, nuestro pais y nuestra cultura.

Dominic Scott
Dominic Scott

As a Galician I can confirm

James Brooks
James Brooks

It is alive, but it's minoritary like I suppose it happens in Italy too. I think that many people can be redpilled here with the right propaganda.

Link related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLo66bEPzsE

Brandon Ross
Brandon Ross

Does falangalism/fascism currently have a chance in Spain?
If they are the first to do this in Europe, I will probably move. Just as my Spanish ancestor before me, who came here to aid the Catholics against Protestant filth.

Brandon Lopez
Brandon Lopez

Falangism is long dead.
We have far right organizations but they're more neo-nazis than falangist.
There's the MSR (Movimiento Social Republicano) that was used to be the spanish delegation of Blood and Honour (neo-nazi british group) that also owns Grupo Hogar whhich is an activist organization that branches out in different groups. They are like Britain First and help spanish homeless with shelter and food but they get their supplies burnt by Antifa (yes, they burn their food "either for everybody or for nobody") and they also trash their shelters. Hispania Verde also belongs to this group and they plant trees, help endangered species, etc.

Lucas Collins
Lucas Collins

Yes, Mosley while still supporting the monarchs never was going to install absolute monarchy. I believe in a sense the royals have a place in British culture, however Mosley wanted more or so to encourage the royal family but ultimately prevent power from ever coming back to the royals as it was before WW1.

Owen Cox
Owen Cox

Sorry to blackpill you but for now it doesn't. We've had too this jew collective brainwashing and even many of right wings don't even like Franco's regime and think it was bad.

William Wright
William Wright

Es gracioso ver este post lleno de autistas virgenes haciendo LARP.
Si de verdad supierais algo de España y amarais este pais sabriais distinguir que Franco no era mas que un inutil manipulado por los judios.
Si siguieramos en esos tiempos seriais los primeros en ser fusilados por inutiles

Isaac Ortiz
Isaac Ortiz

Lol shooting at a statue. You leftists are tough guys!

Thomas Baker
Thomas Baker

From a third person's perspective it certainly looks that way. Franco is still fresh in the older generations and among the most conservative, you see whole families giving the roman salute and it is not as big of a taboo as in Spain. The problem is that since Franco died there has being a lot of contrarianism against him and thus the whole right, like a pendulum. In the case of Spain this pendulum is on the left after spending its time on the right.
tl;dr: it is dying but it is still there

Pic. Falangist party members march towards the tomb of José Antonio Primo de Rivera (2007).

Carson Hernandez
Carson Hernandez

Does falangalism/fascism currently have a chance in Spain?
No way. The Falange is divided, fighting each other. The only groups that have some relevancy (Vox being the most famous with one seat in the Parliament) has been alredy outed as a zionist plant but most of the info gets wiped away quickly.
The few hopes we had to promulgate fascism or right wing ideas have been jailed, exiled or jailed in their exiled (like Pedro Varela).

Zachary Rodriguez
Zachary Rodriguez

Atención, un menor de edad ha entrado a la thread, repito, un menor de edad ha entrado a la thread

Elijah Morris
Elijah Morris

Franco should have invaded England in WWII, that would have helped ensure the liberation of Russia sooner and prevented the mutts from having an operating base.

Gabriel Turner
Gabriel Turner

como es que tienes wifi en el inem?

Jack Russell
Jack Russell

En el INEM siempre hay wifi muyayo.
Tienen ordenadores allí con internet para la gente que busca curro y esas cosas.
No te metas en el emule ni nada d'eso que igual te echan pero sí que puedes navegar y tal.

Kevin Ramirez
Kevin Ramirez

Hmm, that's too bad. It's gonna take a long while before we get a good, strong, right-wing party here as well. I wish you all the best, and arriba españa

Luis Bailey
Luis Bailey

dejando de lado el LARP... lo unico que hizo bueno fue echar a los comunistas, fue un gobernante pesimo y la version descafeinada de hitler

Mason Torres
Mason Torres

Falangism believes in "vertical sindicalism". This organization gathers workers and owners of industries and capital, and makes them work together to get better conditions for workers and succes for the business. Obviously, always under decent ethics and fighting for the general interest of the nation. It works for the working class, but in a different way of strasserism.
With the union of Falange (of Jose Antonio) and JONS (also national sindicalists, Ramiro Ledesma and Onésimo Redondo), the last ones added a lot of Catholicism to the mix.
Jose Antonio was an exceptional man with a unique vision of history and hispanism. He learned about the fascism in Europe, and adapted it to the spanish singularity with great succes and ideas decades ahead of his times.
He was the best option to rule Spain, and Franco was a necessary evil for Falangism in Spain with the war going on. After Jose Antonio's death, Manuel Hedilla was the true heir of the movement. But the catholic and monarchy sectors were against him.

Nolan Barnes
Nolan Barnes

A día de hoy la verdad es que esencialmente si, y tampoco es que sirviese de mucho porque anda que no veo yo putos rojos y liberales de mierda por todos lados, pero independientemente de ello, era lo que españa necesitaba , por decir cualquiera puede decir joder ojala haber tenido a Hitler, pero de nuevo, mira también el estado en el que esta alemania a día de hoy...

Ayden Phillips
Ayden Phillips

Even a history lesson, you are impressing me Spanish anons and giving me knowledge I did not have, thank you.

Charles Brown
Charles Brown

Yo no soy pro-Franco.
Eliminó el edicto de Granada (dejando entrar a moros y judíos de nuevo a España)
Provocó hambrunas y pobreza con la autarquía
Provocó decenas de miles de muertes de ciudadanos inocentes con el fiasco metílico
Nos vendió a los yankees para total acabando sin ver un duro del Plan Marshall

Aún así dicen que con Franco se vivía mejor y puede que sea verdad (vivienda barata, impuestos bajos, calidad de vida en los últimos años del régimen, etc).
Pero recuerda que Primo era el fundador de la Falange y a quien admiran los falangistas, no a Franco.

Lincoln Morgan
Lincoln Morgan

Si, totalmente, no ha tenido mas valor para el futuro que dejar a una elite podrida en el poder, necesitamos verdaderos patriotas

Brandon Smith
Brandon Smith

I read about VOX wanting to get rid of autonomias and many ayuntamientos, and all their politicians
how true is that?

Andrew Collins
Andrew Collins

Best wishes to you and your country as well. Let's hope we can go back to the right course. Houzee!

Gabriel Gonzalez
Gabriel Gonzalez

Se vivia mejor que durante la guerra, eso seguro.
Yo tambien estoy de acuerdo contigo, el falangismo hubiera sido una mejor opción.
Como siempre, desde epocas imperiales hemos sido una nación muy fuerte con pesimos gobernantes...y asi seguira ya que mira que nos depara el futuro

Jaxson Nelson
Jaxson Nelson

Arriba Espana

Adam Sanchez
Adam Sanchez

It is true, they don't want 17 parlaments, but sincerely I don't think they can do that because it requires a change in the constitution and parlamentary majority.

Thomas Edwards
Thomas Edwards

Where exactly does the term Falangist come from?

Adrian Diaz
Adrian Diaz

Franquistas and Communist took away the ultimate syndicalist fight
It was supposed to be red and black vs red and black.

Adam Price
Adam Price

La Falange (as in Phalanx) Española.
It was a political movement created by Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera, son of the dictator Miguel Primo de Rivera.

Adrian Cooper
Adrian Cooper

From Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera it's founder and son of the dictator Miguel Primo de Rivera. It means a phalanx, like the greek or roman soldiers, it symbolizes union.

Pic related.

Hunter Cook
Hunter Cook

It's basically just a political party's name

Parker Barnes
Parker Barnes

Thanks guys

Bentley Ward
Bentley Ward

No admitimos derrotistas ni nihilistas en nuestras filas.
Desde la batalla de Covadonga a la de Krasni Bor los guerreros españoles han dado sobradas muestras de bravura y valentía en las condiciones más adversas.
Si no cambia usted inmediatamente de actitud será usted expulsado de su companía y no podrá decir usted que forma parte de los Gloriosos Tercios Españoles con la desgracia y deshonra que ello conlleva.
Moral alta camarada.

Evan Perry
Evan Perry

Bien dicho, no hay soldado más gallardo que el español.

Leo Evans
Leo Evans

xd tios que haceis que no andais en forocoches xD

Easton Sanders
Easton Sanders

Los memeflaggers sois escoria.

Robert Thomas
Robert Thomas

Posting this from a thread from the other day. about the culture of Spain

Nicholas Hill
Nicholas Hill

A syndicalist union devoid of class conflict and foreign leeches. Oh what could have been. We'll miss you, Primo de Rivera...

You're just scared of going F/A/S/T. Imagine what Poland could be with the ONR-Falanga.

Mason Gomez
Mason Gomez

I put every day falange posters in my town
pic related

Tyler Scott
Tyler Scott

S...señor si señor!
A mi la legión!

Chase Cook
Chase Cook

I am a voluntary in a retirement house for poor old people, also religious.
when they tell me their lives they allways tell me how life was hard after the war, but it was much better than with the comunists.
One of the elders i talk with told me that her family fled to the national side of spain when they started seeing churches burning down.

Because it is my senior year mandatory project, i go with some mothers from my HS, and in one moment one of the mother's phone rang with the Cara al sol, but because it's a full right-wing school we all laughed and played it cool

Aaron Taylor
Aaron Taylor

the absolute madman.
Are you from MADRIZ?

Landon Murphy
Landon Murphy

Vives de la gloria de unos antepasados ya muertos porque no tienes absolutamente nada de lo que sentirte orgulloso personalmente. Tú y todos los fachas de este hilo, una manada de betas o bien vírgenes o bien puteros que jamás han hecho nada por sí mismos.

Seguid llorando, sois historia.

Nathaniel Smith
Nathaniel Smith

No, I'm from Valencia

Robert Scott
Robert Scott

Nuestra patria está tan enferma que ninguna medicina habida y por haber puede curarla, lo único que puede curarla es un cirujano de hierro.
Our fatherland is so sick that no medicine to ever be created can heal her, the only thing that can heal her is an iron surgeon.

Noah Sanchez
Noah Sanchez

Falangists were opportunistic scum. They sent the young kids to fight while they stayed home and extorted families for food and money, then took the good state jobs they weren't even qualified for. There were a few good ones like my great grandfather, who fought at Teruel. But when he returned and saw that those shitbags were out for themselves he wised up.

Alexander Brown
Alexander Brown

Not that madman, iirc valencia is pretty "right"-wing, isn't it?

Robert Thomas
Robert Thomas

No te creas, Valencia está llena de rojos, moros, gitanos y nuevo independentistas.

Charles Murphy
Charles Murphy

While they stayed home
Who exactly are you talking about? The leaders that were killed by the lefties?
I think you must read something more kiddo

Easton Hall
Easton Hall

Posting the Sup Forums Spain discord, join it fellow Spaniards.
https://discord
.gg/Cg6hwEP

Jack Roberts
Jack Roberts

Les puedo regalar Modoro? Tengo entendido que adoran a los comunistas en España.

Noah Howard
Noah Howard

Doy fe.

Tyler Murphy
Tyler Murphy

Rojos
Toda españa.
Moros y gitanos
Toda españa otra vez
Nuevos indepes
Que.

Asher Phillips
Asher Phillips

Pero si no os habéis peleado ni en el instituto, parguelas cuerpoescombros. Os apuntan con un arma de verdad y os cagáis encima.

Jaxson Gonzalez
Jaxson Gonzalez

Viva espana

Eli Watson
Eli Watson

impliying falagism isn't

Jaxon Ramirez
Jaxon Ramirez

Who exactly are you talking about?
I'm talking about the Falangistas that didn't fight and stayed home, then took jobs as teachers even though they were analfabetos. They served their purpose before the war. Afterwards, the remnants were all shitbags.

Leo Jones
Leo Jones

bummer

Jason Stewart
Jason Stewart

Sorry bro, but the only thing i'd do with this country is take control of it, spend all the money it has on developing a nuclear weapons program and nuking the rest of the planet.

Blake Young
Blake Young

It can always pass a metamorphosis like Hogar Social Madrid.

Levi Lewis
Levi Lewis

Música para amenizar la tarde

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jjmD0unx5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhfZOH7pmEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn6y2jzso4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55R4OxcASyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8yrt6IwwI8

Discursos Jose Antonio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyaBgyDaAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hU0Xkm7noY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IToj2hXmGxM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWZI9kPKrf4

Dylan Walker
Dylan Walker

"Cuando hablamos del Capitalismo no hablamos de la propiedad, la propiedad privada es lo contrario del capitalismo, la propiedad es la proyección directa del hombre sobre sus cosas, es un atributo elemental humano. El Capitalismo ha ido sustituyendo esta propiedad del hombre por la propiedad del capital, del instrumento técnico de dominación económica. El Capitalismo mediante la competencia terrible y desigual del capital grande contra la propiedad pequeña, ha ido anulando el artesanado, la pequeña industria, la pequeña agricultura. Ha ido colocando todo, y va colocándolo cada vez más, en poder de los grandes grupos bancarios. El Capitalismo reduce el final a la misma situación de angustia, a la misma situación infrahumana del hombre desprendido de todos sus atributos, de todo el contenido de su existencia a los patronos y a los obreros, a los trabajadores y a los empresarios. Y esto si que quisiera que quedase bien claro en la mente de todos, es hora ya de que no nos prestemos al equivoco de que se presente a los partidos obreros como partidos anti-patronales o se presente a los grupos patronales como contrarios, como adversarios en la lucha con los obreros. Los obreros, los empresarios, los técnicos, los organizadores, forman la trama total de la producción, y hay un sistema capitalista que con el crédito caro, que con los privilegios abusivos de accionistas y obligacionistas se lleva sin trabajar la mejor parte de la producción, y hunde y empobrece por igual a los patronos, a los empresarios, a los organizadores y a los obreros. " J.A. Primo de Rivera.

Aiden Nguyen
Aiden Nguyen

But u really identify yourself with them?
I mean they seems to me like a football ultras more than an intellectual vanguard against the system

Nolan Wright
Nolan Wright

Wrong coat of arms in that flag... bring the double-
headed eagle back

Xavier Hall
Xavier Hall

Franco was a faggot that fagocited and destroyed Primo de Rivera's legacy

Jack Watson
Jack Watson

Sadly this is true, but I guess it's a beguining. We just have to wait for a new genius to guide this movement.

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