How do you feel about how FFXV was released and ended up being the best Final Fantasy since X (or IV if you are contrarian)?
How do you feel about how FFXV was released and ended up being the best Final Fantasy since X (or IV if you are...
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Nice bait
How am I wrong?
No way fag
What's wrong with that side quest?
I feel XV kuns should spend more time playing this shit game and helping the devs patching the story in, instead of shilling it on Sup Forums
>people complaining that Tabata "ruined" Nomura's vision
>he literally followed the lyrics to Somnus WRITTEN BY NOMURA to a fucking T
Sure there were probably liberties taken with other characters / fluff that was added over the years of conceptualizing, but the core story of "Somnus" is realized in XV.
FFXV has the best FF girls.
XII and XIII are the ones with bad story.
FFXV was complete garbage though.
>unfinished
>story was a mess
>characters are terrible
>ending is literally everyone died: The End
>gameplay is underwhelming in every regard
All of this is wrong, especially about combat.
XV is actually serviceable, X is full cancer.
X is still the definitive best final fantasy game but XV is definitely second best.
>VII
Get that nostalgia out of here
>Before VII
Get that older nostalgia out of here
>VIII or IX
Not as good as XV
>XII or XIII
Not as good as XV
>IV and XI
Get that MMO shit out of here
it's definitely better than X, but X is the worst game in the series so that's not saying much.
It's not only underwhelming, it's one of the worst combat systems of all time
;_;
Better than the turn based garbage of every other FF.
>best Final Fantasy since X
But XII was better than X
>Dismissing VI
>IX
>Not as good as XV
I'd like you to seriously reconsider your opinion while assuring me you've actually played FFIX or FFVI. I know there's always the chance you're baiting. But I can't seriously believe you've played either of those games and think FFXV is the superior experience.
If you do I'm politely asking you to explain yourself.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the shit taste faggots that killed Final Fantasy.
XV-kun go and stay go.
I'm just saying, Iggy is kind of a show off.
>And in this endless night, In despair, He can see the dawn, That will awake him in the next morning
holy moly
hahahahaha
Can't bring myself to do the newgame+.
That shit right there was Noct's victory.
MAD
A
D
>Dawn Trailer
>no one knew what the fuck was going on
>no one got why it was named 'Dawn Trailer'
>shows when Regis is told Noctis is the Chosen One who'll bring light back to the world
>that ending
>that sun rise
Alright, Tabata. That was pretty good.
What about that post made you think I was mad.
I have a hard time believing you're not just a shitposter and that you actually think XV is a better game than FFIX or FFVI. I asked you politely as possible to explain why you think this way.
This is a videogame board. If you didn't come here to discuss videogames then you're fucking cancer.
I liked XV, as much as the next guy, but come on user, you can't just spit blatant lies like that.
I don't even like 12 or 13 and both of those are better games. So are both of the MMOs.
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I gave it a try, and holy shit its bad. The combat is bad, the controls are bad, the frame rate is unstable, everything is blurry and all the characters act like the worst kind of anime garbage, eg not real people.
>I don't even like 12 or 13 and both of those are better games.
How the fuck can you say 13 is better?
You're talking about 13 right?
fucking kek
It was longer, had a better story, had better music, and the gameplay was more fun.
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I'm inclined to agree with you because I fucking hate turn based, but at least turn based listens to its own rules. XV's combat system just does whatever the fuck it wants. Holding L1 is supposed to dodge, except some attacks like Foras' instakill dive attack can't be dodged because fuck you. The game just makes up whatever rules it wants for the combat system. Its retarded.
On Chapter 14 and eager to end the game, but I'm going back and doing the stuff I missed.
It is a really enjoyable game. There are tons of flaws, but there are also tons of really good things. It's an interesting game, but I think the good far outweigh the bad.
I also like Chapter 13
I disliked how spamming dodge pretty much made you invincible at zero mana cost.
It made me feel lonely.
God fucking damn it, I just finished eating and now I'm hungry again...
>tfw no Ignis to make you delicious recipeh
I know that feel.
That's the point, and that's why I liked it. Taking away your power and being chased by MT's while Ardyn taunts you made me feel uneasy.
It did drag on a bit, and the last part where you have to escape the hangar pissed me off since you were fucked if you ended up in Danger state, but it was still enjoyable to me.
What the hell is this thing on the Angelard island?
Same here, I really want to play NG+ but god damnit I can't.
Its pretty much necessary because the game throws so much bullshit at you.
I am dissapointed by the Combat in FFXV, I don't see how it even closely resembles the Combat of any Final Fantasy installation (I skipped 12 but still)
I'm kind of sick of the plebs who hated on XIII's combat. Rapidly switching between battle modes like buff/debuff or str/mag required a lot of skill and was something VERY NEW and FRESH but still harkened back to turn-based etc.
FFXV is like a DMC game lmao where is Damien?
Keyblades
>Luna dies
well ok I guess
>Ignis is blinded
>mfw
To add to thiss I'm fairly dissapointed by XV in general
No story or characters or environment to speak of really
I live in Midwest USA so I basically have seen all of the landscapes in this game for 25 years every day.
Boring.
>XV is set in the KH universe
>Ardyn was heartless
Trully the deepest lore
He should just be able to regroup his vision back.
When I first saw XV combat I was excited, because I didn't like ATB and I wanted more Kingdom Hearts style gameplay.
But what we got was a pretty awful impersonation of KH gameplay. I think the game would be so much more fluid if you could cancel out of attacks into a dodge.
if this were any other final fantasy game some eyedrops would have cleared that shit right up
>tfw you couldn't go on a roadtrip through the united states of lucis just you and iris
Your dad should have regrouped his sperm back so your mom wouldn't give birth to such an idiot.
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There are 25 years in a day over there?
I got to chapter 13 last night, and I had heard the game goes to shit around here, but even with that knowledge I wasn't prepared for just how terrible it is. Absolute garbage. I kept saying "well it's better than FFXIII at least but still has a lot of problems" but now I'm tempted to just say it's dogshit and leave it at that. Garbage game.
It's only the best Final Fantasy if you absolutely loathed them being strategy games (regardless of how much strategy you think they actually required). Even then I can't imagine you rating more than a mediocre action gamer that happened to have a ton of money thrown at its development.
Don't be that way, user. It's good for you.
Play more games
The absolute biggest issue I have with this game is that the characters were its strongest suit and there was no ability to really interact with them. For example after Ignis gets blinded, you can't even ask him about what happened. I think being able to talk to your buddies would be really good for the game to flesh out the story. For example it could provide
>additional characterization for Luna
>additional explanation for story events (oh did you miss the one fucking loading screen where they talk about ardyn making stitches in time or some shit, well just ask gladio wtf was up with that)
>additional avenue to connect to them and explore their feelings
Sadly, once you got the hang of the ring, all that flew out the window and fighting MT's became piss easy
chapter 13 is pretty shitty yes, but there isn't much left of the main story anyway.
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But the ring sucks hard.
I don't understand how people can legitimately get attached to these characters. Prompto is annoying, Gladio's conflict with Noctis feels incredibly contrived and he's just boring otherwise. Ignis is the only one I would say even approaches being likable, but nowhere near enough that I gave a shit when he was blinded. The only emotional reaction I had to that was being pissed about how I had to babysit his cripple ass in the terrible dungeon under the train station where Gladiolus would bitch at me if I went so much as 10 steps ahead of them.
That's what I figured. Seemed like Altissia and everything after it has been incredibly rushed like they ran out of time. Everything except goddamn chapter 13 anyway. I'm honestly ready for this game to be over, and it's soured the experience enough that I'm dropping it as soon as the credits roll. Zero interest in postgame at this point.
Kek...ok that made me laugh
Still don't see the hate for 13.
13 is miles better than 15 in ACTUALLY every single regard.
>better combat
>better shit story
>more memorable shit characters
>better color, visuals, world, environment
>better OST
Is there anything 15 wins in?
inb4 some faprage over Hope and Lightning. We get it they suck, but so did 15.
It helps to have references. I can't see how anyone didn't take their copy of FFX and shove it up their own ass after 10 minutes of Tidus, but apparently that didn't happen often.
The counter was really easy to time against the MT's and it turned that whole area into easy mode for me
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>Seemed like Altissia and everything after it has been incredibly rushed like they ran out of time
If you look on the altissa map it looks like there was supposed to be more you could visit, but since it was so rushed it got cut, like most of the game. Cut Content XV
>Gladio's conflict with Noctis feels incredibly contrived
Yeah I didn't even understand what it was about. First I thought the conflict was between gladio and ignis, about gladio saying that ignis should leave the team because he's blind and can't keep up. But then it turned out he was pissed with noct for some reason. And that dungeon was annoying as shit.
I haven't played X, but I still enjoyed XV a lot. Although once I clear out my side quests back log, I'm not doing ng+. Not until they release the story packs. The story in this game is do frustrating.
What did you choose as Noct's last meal?
13 didn't have better combat. It was start with all attack setup, switch to combat clinic as needed, repeat. Spent the entire game doing that. Supposedly some of the high level hunts require some other strategy but fuck if I was going to spend another second playing that game than necessary. At least 15 has some semblance of skill to it, but 15's combat is by no means good.
Instead of adding more map to explore I think they should've made side quests that weren't absolute shit. I think personally lucis was large enough to still have variety.
girugamesh
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Noctis had been moping about Luna for a while and not doing much else. Gladio was trying to get him to be all kingly and shit again. The problem is that it's not really shown how much Noctis is moping about, so Gladio just comes off as a dick.
prompto looks so fucking horrible, both in the past and the future, shitty character.
Well I'll be straight up with you
I spent maybe 80% of FFXIII using the same strategy in combat...BUT.
Those extra hard bosses and hunts where you really needed to switch things up, made it all worth it. It was so fluid and incredibly fun constantly switching battle modes every 10 seconds and getting the right results. It required thinking, it was new, and it was fun.
Now, I'm not even going to mention "variation" in FFXV's combat - I don't have fun in the main style I play as or in any variatons. And lets be honest, battle is always the same
>scan baddies
>gear up
>attack, teamwork, magic
>dodge
It's not Final Fantasy man, It's boring. It's Hack & Slash.
J ROOOOOCKKK
Reminds me of what I'm expecting out of FFVIIR
How do we know you weren't being the dick? HUH?!
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I'm just so god damn bored of the combat.
Does ANYONE here truly like it?
Seriously where is the strategy? The mystique? The valor? You fucking run into some baddies, scan em to find out EXACTLY what weapon/magic you need... then you equip that weapon/magic.
THEN WHAT?
THEN. FUCKING. WHAT?
NO OPTIONS. THERE ARE NO COMBAT OPTIONS IN FFXV.
ONLY 2 OPTIONS:
1) HACK
2) SLASH
JIBUN WOOOOOOO
That's the frustrating thing. Gladio was supposed to come off as dishing out tough love, but the game doesn't demonstrate the flaws of what Noctis was doing adequately enough, so Gladio just looks like an asshole.
>>better color, visuals, world, environment
Yea this was one thing that let me down in XV
I thought it was fucking hilarious how after Ignis got blinded, the first time I rested after that dungeon, Prompto's pictures were almost exclusively of Ignis walking around all depressed and blind and shit. Zoomed in on his face, black-and-white filter, behind him with his shoulders all slumped down. Like, what the fuck Prompto.
Exactly man, I probably wouldn't even be ITT complaining if those were a little better.
I mean for the past 10 years all I want from a Final Fantasy is a beautiful looking world I can immerse myself in and a killer fucking OST that I listen to for months.
FFXV's world is fucking ALABAMA????
And the OST is a FF PARTY MIX? I ALREADY OWN THAT, WTF?
This game is bad. I love some parts of the combat (I feel like they will take heat they learned here and put it in KH3) but FUCK is the story SO stupid! Why the fuck do I have to watch some dumb movie to know what's going on? Why the fuck isn't that in the game? Why the fuck I so much of the game dedicated to some bs wannabe survival horror shit? Why the fuck is the most lore dense part of the game not even playing like a FF game? And then you have to read these fucking pieces of paper to know where demons come from, and that stupid twist about Prompto THAT MEANT NOTHINGN IN THE LONG RUN.
The boss battles were cool. Loved it, but the story is trash and you can tell they just wrapped up their incomplete game the best they could a la destiny
>best FF girls
>in a game with Cindy, Iris, and Lunafreya
Aranea is the only good one.
While we can agree the world is not as fantasy as we had hoped the ost is more or less spot on
I agree with everything on your list except visuals. I prefer a linear game over open world but filled with nothing but fetch x kill y quests.