There are people on this board that like this piece of shit

>there are people on this board that like this piece of shit

MorroWindbags, the lot of you.

Morrowind would be better if it had upgraded graphics

>gothic2fag single-handedly killed Morrowind discussions on Sup Forums
what the fuck how did this happen

Nobody actually likes this game.
They just enjoy trying to defend it.

Hardcore babies that grew up on Morrowind would kick the shit out of the sheltered faggots that started with the boring, bland and pitifully easy Skyrim.

Nobody actually dislikes Morrowind.
They just enjoy trying to attack it.

>My First RPG
That's not Pokemon

theyre both on the same sewer, get over yourself and your shit games

Kicking a retard is not a great feat.
Beating Mike Tyson in his prime is.

Defending this pile is a challenge worthy of the contrarians of Sup Forums.

Funny thing is years ago I remember being one of like 4 people on Sup Forums that talked about even playing gothic 2. It's like a contrarian hive mind blew up out of nowhere

Game is great. The best rpg I've ever played. The challenge is in trying to make people dislike it.

deserved
TES is a garbage franchise that's fellated on here like MGS is

that's not Gothic 2`

>implying you know me
>implying you know my tastes or what I prefer to play

All I did was make an assertion related to the image in the OP. Your assumptions and response indicate a lack of comprehension and reasoning. It is only natural, then, that I discard all of your baseless claims until you supply coherent, sound evidence supporting your opinions. GOOD DAY.

Fuck off Morroweenies.

not an argument

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Have you ever run across the ladies looking for a ring in a pond in game?
Did you enjoy that?
The best fuck you from Morrowind was when I finally found the fucking thing I got stuck on one of the damn plants and drowned.

The easiest way to convince someone this is the worst of the three most recent TES games is to let them play it.

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It may be ,as you say, a great RPG.
Sadly it is a fairly shitty game.

>he plays Elder Scrolls games

LOL

>RPGs are action games and should be judged solely by combat: The webm

and gameplay

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>tfw you like gothic and morrowind

The most important thing for games is the /game/play

Quest working as intended, weeding out the weak incarnations

not going to bother playing a game if the gameplay is a chore

Gothic aged incredibly badly, the combat is so awful it makes it almost unplayable for me, which is a shame, because back in the day I really enjoyed the world, dialogues and overall story. Nowadays I can't really play it for longer than the first chapter before I drop it out of frustration for the bad combat.

What if the gameplay is only a chore if you're a gigantic fucking retard that can't into common sense and basic skill build selection?

>gameplay is combat
You are the brainlet modern developers design RPGs for.

Same reason we have so many faggots here think Gamecube was worth a fuck. It's what they played when they were 7.

when did i mention not doing a build correctly
no i did the build fine, but the gameplay is so goddamn boring that the game is a chore to get through

You appear to be buttblasted

Combat is a huge part of the game, you autistic faggot. You're assaulted by various mobs the moment you exit whatever town you're in.

Unlike a good RPG like New Vegas or Gothic 2, it's pretty difficult to avoid combat encounters in Morrowind. so yes, it is important

The combat in Gothic amounts to waiting for the enemy to attack so you can block then hit it a couple times and repeat, it is not deep.

I agree. It's definitely not a game for casuals and that's why casuals hate it. It's not streamlined and therefore it's difficult to find stuff. Of course it's difficult to find a ring in a like without a magic arrow pointing out where it is. Nobody made you do that quest.

>there are only human enemies

Gothic fags will never post a webm of combat with multiple mobs because it's absolutely atrocious dealing with crowds in that game with that targeting system.

someone update this with more enemy types holy shit this game is impossible

To be fair you can apply that shit to any RPG.

My first RPG was Fallout 3. Even if Fallout 3 and Morrowind don't hold up to people who are more used to Skyrim and Fallout 4, it's clear they hold a special place in people's hearts since it was their first.

>thinly veiled m-muh gothic thread
Fuck off.

Uhmm..... unless it was a giant enemy like the troll that basic loop didn't change sweetie.

agreed the combat is shit

And was set for in skyrim

that's why you get magic

Ok give me a more detailed world and don't say Gothic 2.

gothic 1

does gothic have
>8 main attributes
>27 skills
>enchanting with multiple types of effects
>5 schools of magic
>spellcrafting
>story with a dozen opposing factions affected by your actions
??????????
nice """"""""rpg""""""" you got there

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>You're assaulted by various mobs the moment you exit whatever town you're in.

If that were true then why wouldn't you just walk back into town since the guards are already fucking the mob up 10x better than you anyway and you were literally in no danger the whole time.

I tried casting various "Detect" spells expecting something to show up on the main screen or at least the mini map.
Guess where the detect spells show up.
On the map in the main menu.
By casual do you mean people who expect a certain amount of competence?

Yes I am not as forgiving for shitty design decisions as the hardcore crowd.

Gothic 3

found the underage pretending to be older so he won't completely get shat on. Admit it, you just think the game is "dated" because you have the attention span of a goldfish.

Roguelikes are the only good RPGs.

+upvote for being so clever! lets keep this comment chain going

I know Gothic and Morrowind have a lot in common but Morrowind's freedom in gameplay and exploration feels more expansive to me and first person is naturally more immersive.

Gothic is good though, just a different flavor and I think Morrowind's flavor last longer through subsequent play throughs. Gothic has a lot of replayability compared to most but just comes up short in comparison to me.

Oh boo hoo. You're too stupid to to check your map in the menu. How is that anybody but your fault? Everyone uses their main map to find stuff. Heck, I used it all the time when it was my first playthrough. Guess you just have to not be a retard to like Morrowind.

don't get faggoty with me because you asked a dumb question
gothic vs morrowind is just quality vs quantity
morrowind is the 2002 version of any of these modern AAA games that have hundreds of hours of rehashed content

Gothic 3 is TWO WORLDS tier

>A box with wheels is just as good as a subaru

Gothic 1 is tiny and basic at best.

>morrowind is the 2002 version of any of these modern AAA games that have hundreds of hours of rehashed content

This is one of the most retarded things i've seen posted in a long time.

>When you set blunt to 1

Relax pal I was just teasing, and not a dumb question most people who enjoyed both probably wouldn't all come to the same conclusion. The dumb implication was OP's bait.

I'm saying both games are good but Morrowind is better, and considering one game series went to shit and the other is currently being ported onto every system in existence I think I know which horse I would back.

But Gothic IS better than Oblivion and Skyrim. So if you want to just shit on Elder Scrolls and be pleased with your superior taste go ahead.

I was genuinely asking because I wanted recommendations that weren't gothic because I've played gothic.

Not really, you are quite able to go anywhere you wanted in Gothic as well as climbing certain precipices, which you can't do in Morrowind.

I played the shit out of morrowind when it came out and was quite into 3d rpgs from like 2000-.

Then I discovered things like Gothic and Arx Fatalis, which can bury morrowind in shame with just the depth of gameplay and story.

Hell all of the Elder Scrolls are like the Coca Cola of WRPGs. And brother, Gothic is Dr. Pepper.

>Food analogy

Kiss my ass, it's true.

>Muh lore

Why bother making a shitty video game then?

enjoy doing the same ancestral tomb 100 times morrowanker

>which you can't do in Morrowind.
yes you can

>but Morrowind is better
wrong, morrowind was dated when it came out
>and considering one game series went to shit
both went to shit, don't play dumb
>I was genuinely asking
look elsewhere, this board is fucking terrible

>you are quite able to go anywhere you wanted in Gothic as well as climbing certain precipices, which you can't do in Morrowind
This is by far the stupidest statement in this thread and perhaps this entire board at the moment.

>Same reason we have so many faggots here think Gamecube was worth a fuck. It's what they played when they were 7.
Slow down faggot, don't start hating on the lunchbox now. Resident Evil 4, F-Zero GX, Melee and Metroid Prime are god-tier. I bet you're a PS2 dicksuck who thinks God of War and Jack and Daxter are actually good games.

Isn't Morrowind's combat basically real-time dice rolling? Interesting way to not have to use turn-based combat for the sake of game pace. It does give it that traditional RPG feel, if you're into that. I'd prefer a turn based system like what was in the KoTOR games myself.

No, you can't climb and clamber in Morrowind.

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*dumbest

And no, it isn't. If you're smart enough, you can go anywhere in Gothic and defeat any enemy if you're good enough.

>RPGs have dice rolls for ages
>Translate that into real time combat, its a little clunky at first
>All these smug babies can get over Gothic's shit control scheme but can't get past level 3 to consistantly hit shit in Morrowind so they think you miss forever

Things like this and >morrowind is the 2002 version of any of these modern AAA games that have hundreds of hours of rehashed content

Truely shows that these gothic nostalgia fags never played through enough of the game to enjoy it. And having the patience to get into Gothic should mean you have the patience to realize Morrowind was not just the first step but the peak of true 3D elderscrolls.

If morrowind gameplay is a chore, you're playing like a fucking retard.

How are people this bad at character building? Just put a single weapon type as a major skill and use it.

Nope.
Played it when it was released.It was a decent game with many flaws.
When I played the Bloodmoon expansion Bethovens "Ode to joy" played in my head because there were no foyadas or cliffs in my way and I could just run in any direction on Solstheim.
After the maze that was Vvardenfell it gave me hope for any future games.

There are two ways combat goes in morrowind.

Either you have skill in a combat discipline above 40 and kill it easily or less and you don't kill it so easily.

Beyond that, it's alchemy abuse.

Yea, and you're part of the reason it is.

>both went to shit, don't play dumb
If you actually read my post I said Morrowind was better than Gothic, but Gothic was better than Oblivion and Skyrim. Which means Elder Scrolls went to shit, but not nearly as bad as gothic.

Also the games are objectively massive successes and are loved by most, don't let Sup Forums's neckbeard snob taste brainwash you.

The Gothic series shits on any Elder Scrolls game

You're clearly baiting because you can't possibly be this fucking retarded, but you can literally fly in Morrowind and you cannot kill anything in Gothic at any point you want even if you were good enough because you wouldn't even be dealing damage to many things.

A shitty baseless analogy. Your bias is plainly evident by the degree of separation between items. Retry with actual reasoning or go on being retarded.

I can't believe how people are simply ignoring Gothic 4 in this thread. It's basically Gothic 2 with the unnecessary stuff taken out.

>The gothic series
You mean two gothic games are don't nearly have the technological progression of the Elder Scrolls game? Or are you including the trail of dogshit the gothic series mutated into after 2?

>there were no foyadas or cliffs in my way
>what is high acrobatics
>what are levitation potions

you can literally float over mountains

>Unlike a good RPG like New Vegas or Gothic 2, it's pretty difficult to avoid combat encounters in Morrowind
Use one of the many transportations available in the game (teleports, boats etc.). Use levitation spell. Use invisibility. Just run past things with your 100+ speed if you know how. What's the fucking problem?

It has better gameplay but worse lore, world-building, roleplay, exploration, music etc. If you're a combat gameplay whore then yeah gothic is 10x better. inb4 people make fucking idiots of themselves claiming that gameplay is the only important aspect of every game in every genre.

Yea it really reflects in the reviews, I'm sure its stable too.

>implying any Elder scrolls game past Morrowind is good
>implying Morrowind isn't dogshit

>Gothic series as a whole vs one ES game

LMAO depending on which ES this might actually be a fight gothicfags can win

Gameplay is the only important aspect of a game. Want a good story? Pick up a book or watch a quality film.

>i've been on this hellhole for over a decade and this is the first time someone posted my OC
I feel proud

>The maze that is Vvardenfell
Blows me away people are too casual to find in-game travel mechanics and navigating a map. Shows fast travel is here to stay.

Both games are good, but for different reasons. This is obvious, what the fuck are people arguing about?

Flying around in a variety of different areas (5 if I remember correctly?) is not the same as actually having to traverse obstacles with either physical skill or magic.

And no, you can kill anything you want in Gothic at a very early level. It just takes more time than if you were to actually get a better weapon, which takes slightly longer if you know where to get it from. Difference is, instead of having a metric tonne of potions in your pocket and skill levels up the whazoo, you actually have to do something more than button mash in Gothic.

It's not even about Gothic vs Elder Scrolls. There are games that do the whole meat much better.

Dude this is what we do here, just go with it

>New Vegas
>good RPG
Wew lad

You're a fucking idiot. There are many aspects to a game other than gameplay and story. Also a written story is completely different to an immersive story with visuals, sound and gameplay attached. I mean you are just outing yourself as a cretin, please keep going.