Inti-creates fired from Bloodstained:

bloodstainedfanforums.com/thread/2504/inti-creates-working-on-game

Good

Maybe it won't be awful.

When is this supposed to come out again?

glad to see people are getting fired for not making games up to standard

more companies need to do this instead of just rolling the shit out and hope for the best

Vague 2018 release, but seriously expect delays.

This shows how incredibly problematic development of the game is. To fire the main devs part way through production is outright nuts. It means you have far less money and time to fix the game in time. My expectaitons are really low now.

The money and time thing's a pity, but given Inti's problems (at least in 3d), it at least shows IGA's paying attention to the critiques about what they've produced. Man, it probably would have been a lot better if he'd never gone with them in the first place.

>Man, it probably would have been a lot better if he'd never gone with them in the first place.

Either have Inti make it 2D or not use Inti. They've proven to be really incompetent at 3D and Unreal engine.

The work that Inti-creates did didn't magically get deleted. the new company that replaced them to fix their shit worked with what they had and improved from there.

Please tell me they'll fix the art.

>Please tell me they'll fix the art.

WAY too late for that at this point.

>The work that Inti-creates did didn't magically get deleted.

They have to rework and reprogram the project and half your time and budget are already gone. So now you have this mess, and you only have 1 year to fix it.

>improved
Oh nice I didn't realise the game had already been released and we could compare both versions the separate devs have made. Fucking retard.

>source is a bloodstained fan forum

Video's of the current work on the game has been released and the game looks aesthetically better.
The demo from last year played like every other Igarashi Castlevania game so people who payed into this got what they wanted so far.
And the 2017 E3 demo looks like more of the same just better looking.
I would call that improved.
We are only getting the base game without the Stretch goals come next year anyway. They are doing a Shovel knight typed release scheduled.
Don't expect your various game modes and playable characters for several months after release.

>Igarashi Castlevania

Igarashi is a term made by Ben Judd to promote Iga (his client) and make him seem like the God Father of Metroidvanias.

The term is Tansaku game. Tansakuvania being the specific subset of games that feature exploration.

Wait, what? No actual source? Just conjectures and asspulls?
And I was starting to get worried.

>yfw you didn't back Bloodstained

>Tansakuvania
>Implying anybody is going to use your stupid makeup word

>Mighty No. 9
>Indivisible
>Yooka-Laylee
>Star Citizen
>Bloodstained
Why do we keep falling for the crowdfunding meme when it keeps biting us in the ass? When will we learn, Sup Forumsros?

>All that money they would have wasted on Inti-creates
Can't wait to add it to the shitstarter pile

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The concept is valid. But crowd funding tends to favor hype rather than good planning. And often projects collapse under their own weight by trying to do way too much. Star Citizen, Bloodstained, and MN9 fall under that category.

>Igarashi is a term made by Ben Judd
His name is literally Koji Igarashi
Every castlevania game since symphony of the night that he had a hand in play basically the same.
This is not a term. just using his name to describe what type of game he was apart of and what you can expect Bloodstained to play like.

You are retarded. No matter how much this post screams bait. It doesn't make you any less retarded.

>putting Indivisible on that list

looks like fucking shit and the combat is atrocious. kys my man

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no

>19-34 frames per second

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old shit, they made a video showing the new studio that is working a month ago senpai

>His name is literally Koji Igarashi

And he's a fucking PRODUCER slash writer. This is more of the credit stealing PRODUCER meme that Sup Forums keeps falling for. A businessman/manager who gets to be front and center and take all the credit for a game series. Hey remember how Sup Forums was sucking Inafune's dick just a few years ago?

m-might be because they're running it on a laptop or because it's JUST a b-beta...
they also turned on heavy lighting/shadows for the showcase

>tfw you didn't back no indie game
Feels really good watching retards and normies spend life savings on garbage.

>using a nintendo name for a non-nintendo game
Its like you dont understand ip law at all

This is actually just connecting the dots. Inti is NOWHERE to be seen now. It's all Dico and Artplay now. So using that, and some other evidence, the conclusion is that Inti-Creates were fired from the project in Nov 2016 when those other two companies were hired.

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Which is why I didn't explicitly say he created the games. Just had a hand in them.
That every Castlevania game his name is attached to plays roughly the same and that the bloodstained demo plays as such and the game was funded under the notion that the game would play as such.
So the only reason a person who payed money into this should be disappointed is that they personally don't care for the aesthetic the game is going for.

I didn't pay a dime but it looks fine to me. It doesn't look like it is going to be a colossus failure to me yet but it also doesn't look like it will be amazing to me yet either.
Game ain't finished. Just looks like Castlevania to me right now.

>Which is why I didn't explicitly say he created the games. Just had a hand in them.

"IGAVANIA" implies that they're "his" games, and puts him front and center. He's not a fucking director. The worshiping of Producers is idiotic. They're managers, spokespersons. But they get all the credit.

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Stop trying to make tansaku happen, it's not going to happen.

>that fucking framerate

see

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>rumors
"wow it's another TORtanic just like in the prophecies I wrote!"

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Where did I say Igavania?
Point me to that.
I said Igarashi Castlevania game. A specific thing.
Every Igarashi Castlevania game plays the same. He was the producer yes but it is much easier to catagorize these games as such at the moment because they all have this one person a part of them.
I can't just say Metroidvania because as close together as SotN and Super metroid are they don't share similar mechanics such as leveling, stats, or the same use of equipment. But every Castlevania game that had Igarashi as the producer has the same basic thing going for them. And Bloodstained follows suit.

No point wasting everyone's times debating pointless semantics when I'm only using the term temperamentally. Until you can come up with a much better term to describe a game that plays like every other Castlevania game produced by Igarashi then feel free to inform me.
Until then I will refer to them as Igarashi Castlevania games.

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Has any kickstarter game turned out well?

Shovel Knight. It's what really got the vidya kickstarter scene going.

shovel knight
undertale
shantae

True, Indivisible shouldn't be in that list because people didn't fall for it.

That's not even official news. It's just another stupid fan accusation.

reggie has thicc kissable lips

Do you never go outside Sup Forums? What a stupid question.

I was originally going to back it, but with all the bullshit that MN9 was going through at the time of the Bloodstained kickstarter + Inti-Creates being involved, I decided against it.

In hindsight, I feel like I made the right choice. I did like the original demo and I am planning on picking it up if it turns out OK, but Jesus this project has taken a turn for the worst.

Hyper Light Diftter
Darkest Dungeon
Hollow Knight

FTL was fun.

I've literally never heard the term Tansakuvania.

They've always been called Metroidvania. Obviously they can't use the name Metroid, so they go with Igavania. As in Koji Igarashi, and the games most synonymous with Igarashi are Metroidvania games, because Igavania for marketing.

stop being a weeb autistic faggot.

I fell for it and I have no worries at all other than the platforming level design

I think you should pre-order at 28 dollars anyways since Iga deserves it, even if he and inti fucked up a bit.

Crowdfunding isn't the problem. It's the washed up 90s devs who left their brains in the offices of their failed companies who're the problem. They can't do anything other then fuck up, this was the case for YEARS before KS was ever a thing. From Dust? Obsidian Entertainment? Anything involving Molyneux? Bioware? I can go on and on.

The younger no-name studios by and large do better with their crowdfunded stuff.

Is that from Indivisible? That monster actually looks pretty cool.

>I didn't back Mighty No. 9, Yookah Laylee or Bloodstained

yeah

>getting this worked up over rumors
The game looked fine at E3 just last month. Even if the rumors are true the E3 build was from well after the dev switch happened.

didn't inti work on megaman zero? why would they have any problems with just doing (kind of) the same thing with 3d assets instead of 2d?

Can't believe there are still people defending this piece of trash. People like you who never learn from mistakes are the reason we can't have nice things. This fucking pile will suck more cocks than Mighty Number Nine and Yooka Laylee combined. Mark my words.

Well, pixel art is a lot different than 3d art and requires different skill sets, especially when you get to lighting, movement, that sort of thing. A team that's good at one may not necessarily be good at the other, and I think IGA (and to an even greater extent, Inafune) found that out the hard way :(

Weren't Inti just the code monkeys for this? They weren't doing the design work.

Ftl is rng the game

Why do people shit on Inti-Creates? Gunvolt and Blaster Master Zero are fine.

You know whenever I look at that coverart, I keep thinking that's her front that's in view because the mock angel wings are behind her, and it makes her look like she only has one boob like that chick in Kung Pow.

>why would they have any problems with just doing (kind of) the same thing with 3d assets instead of 2d?

3D is way more complex than people realize. Especially if you have no programmers on staff who understand Unreal Engine.

It's just the TORtanic mentality from every Kickstater thread.

Their other crowdfunded and Unreal Engine game being a total disaster may have something to do with it.

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well shit
lets hope they make sure to get more skilled people this time

What news has come out to make the gametjat makes it look like it is going to bomb to you?
The worst news to come out of this game is that Inti-creates was going to make it when it was getting funded. and recently when they were aiming for a Shovel Knight type release schedule.
Every instance of news and rumors about the game afterwards only dissipated that dread.
Now that the rumor of Inti-Creates being fucking kicked the fuck out as of late last year and that the demos play like SotN and the GBA and DS castlevania games should make you far less skeptical about whether or not the game is shit.

The only reason someone would have to bitch about the game right now is the aesthetic. Which all I can say to you is fucking get over yourself. I dig the dollhouse/stage play aesthetic.

If you don't than that is your problem and not theirs or anyone else.
Inti-Creates can make 2d games fine. But they utter fail at anything remotely passed 2 dimensions. So nobody wanted them anywhere near this.

If they had made a 2D game, we would have already gotten it by now.

Apologize.

This thread is a test to see who actually checks the link before posting. Sadly, 95% of neo-Sup Forums will fail this test

Sadly 95% of Old Sup Forums will too because we have been avoiding links in threads for years because of shitty memes and refusing to fund Kotaku.