Final Fantasy XV

Why does FFXV get SO much hate?

its a step backwards for the francise

Its not a real Final Fantasy game. Just some boring action RPG.

Because it's shit, and even the ass-backwards FFXIII managed to be 'more FF' than XV.

Half baked story, No magic on game, noctis-kun, empty cities,QuickTime event bosses.

>main female protagonist is one-note, boring as shit and has 5 minutes of screen time
>romance is non-existent and contrived, especially with the ending
>completely falls apart after Leviathan
>world of ruin is a brief, awkward pit stop, where you find your friends in the same clothes, with the same personalities after ten years
>you're actually supposed to believe 10 years has passed
>Tenebrae is literally a train pit-stop exposition dump
>There's no telling what's even going on in the ending with all this generic JRPG magic schlock, despite the rest of the game being pretty grounded
>ending doesn't even shed light on supporting cast, or what happens to the world--tons of loose ends, not rewarding or pays off
>lame as fuck--discover every interesting thing through newspapers and radio transmissions
>character moments are sold as DLC and leave huge awkward gaps in the story, like Prompto revealing earth shattering news and the party dismissing it instantly
>can't pick up multiple hunts--have to constantly travel back and forth between supplier and hunt and endure incredibly long load times each time
>game was literally barebones in terms of necessary content at launch
>Leviathan and Titan are some of the worst sequences in modern videogames (Mat Kishimoto did nothing wrong, he was doing his best but the sequences were just that bad)
>have an exclusive MMO timed-event for a singleplayer game
>literal unaccessible, cannon content in the form of Platinum Demo
>Ardyn is a generic mustache twirling villain with inexplicable plot device powers like an almighty subdue power that conveniently subdues the entire party for the final battle, despite all the "power" they've acquired along their journey

What did I miss?

Released too late from announcement while also not even being a finished title. Too far removed from the base of the (already really loose) franchise core similarities with the previous entries. Lacked a director with any kind of vision, a glorified manager just told their staff to do whatever they felt like they could do, and a product lacking cohesion is what was released. Combat that is somehow less engaging and more one dimensional than a turn based game where you'd only select [Fight] repeatedly.

The weird part is their flippant addressing of Magitek prompto works nicely with the dlc. Prompto's spends days worrying about their reactioj and they just don't give a shit since he matters to them. It shows how Prompto constantly tries to convince himself that he isn't a real part of the group.

It's a shame that FFXV was sliced up for dlc.

You missed
>awful character design
I also didn't appreciate how characters like Cindy and Dino can just order the prince of their country around to do mindless errands like it's nothing. That made absolutely no sense to me

JRPGs are on the slow decent down ward and Sup Forums dosent want to expect it.

>JRPGs are on the slow descent downward
That's where you're wrong.

Because people waited 10 years for a rough and unfinished game.

It felt like an MMO in which you were the only active player.

>big empty world
>almost every task was a fetch quest
>dungeons felt randomly generated
>empty towns and cities with nothing to do within them
>most npcs only had a few quirky lines but were solely present to fill space

The game wasn't fun to play or explore either.

>automated driving
>automated combat
>traversal on foot hindered by a stamina bar
>chocobos had to be grinded in order to be made viable
>repair a broken down car for the 20th time
>venture to those ruins in the distance or this isolated area only to find a useless item or nothing at all
>no magic
>summons were random
>bosses and combat was mostly QTE and mindless button mashing

The characters and story wasn't very good either.

>blonde bimbo is your forced love interested even though she's a literal who
>cant romance the little sister
>you need to purchase DLC in order for your bros to develop as characters
>not even the anime adaption dedicated to these guys gave them very much depth
>the guy going blind was dumb melodrama
>that corridor level was an abomination
>I can't even recall most of what went on this game
>muh sad ending for the feels

Only people who havnt played it/Nomurafags/KHfags/FF13 fags who are really one type pretend it's bad, they're just triggered because it sold so well, received well and has more GOTY awards than any other FF. It's by far the best FF.

FFXIV or XV?

I see far more love for it than hate.

It's a massive step forward.

It's more of an FF than any has been in the past 17 years.

XIV

No it didn't XIII-kun you fucking retard.

There is magic, Noctis is the best FF protag yet, the story isn't half baked at all, FF7, 8, 9, 10 all had QTEs in them too.

>It's a massive step forward.
Forward off a cliff that is.

It's a bit of a mess

Play it for the best girl in the franchise

That you're a fucking faggot with the only valid thing you said is you can only take on one hunt.

Fuck off back to gamefaqs you fucking cunt.

This.

XV is superior in every single way.

Yeah you havnt even played XV and are most likely samefagging.

>poster IP didn't even go up.

I was literally checking, because of how predictable you are.
Why must you samefag? Is it because no one agrees with you?

Really makes one think.

On which which you fly off and soar into the sky because of how fantastic it is.

Fuck off XV-kun you spastic fuck.

Oh the fucking irony.

Look at the time, he couldn't have samefagged. If he did, it would've been from another IP address which would have increased the unique poster count anyways.

But he's right?

Well to be fair Noctis was kind of a bitch, I 'd expect him to get ordered by nobodies

>because of how fantastic it is.
I played Sonic 06 back on release and didn't think it was very fantastic, my mind hasn't changed ten years later.

Yeah it makes one think how much of a fucking retard you are for reposting the same fucking clip of some retard playing like shit. Go fucking kill yourself KH fag it's so fucking obvious it's you.

>"only that one particular thing is valid because I said so"

They're actually all valid complaints that everyone has with the game.

WoFF

t. XV-kun

People waited a decade for a painfully mediocre and unfinished mess.

>He
No, you aren't.

Hey look it's KH fag at it again.

No they aren't, stop samefagging.

It's funny how FFXII with an added fast-forward button is a million times better than FFXV.

Honestly this.

Just wait for KH3

It's funny how XII is such a piece of shit they had to add a fast forward button because they know 12 is a slog of shit. It's inferior completely to XV.

XV has a fast forward button in the form of the ring. So glad it lets you skip every dogshit encounter.

/thread

Don't /thread yourself.

His autism has no boundaries.

>KH2 came out before Sonic 06
????

I want to visit the alternate timeline where FFXV was finished and good.

>TFW you will never experience XV for the first time again
Why go on?

I really didn't have too much of an issue with the story and I enjoyed the bantz between the main cast. The problem was the braindead mash X to win gameplay, and magic was a complete joke.

>tfw you will never get those valuable hours of your life back
>tfw you could've spent 20 hours playing a better game and or literally doing anything else and it would've been time better spent

Time travel when?

It feels rushed and is missing many elements people were looking forward to in Versus XIII

What happens if the FFVII remake disappoints like XV? They will just halt the other two parts of the story?

Legitimately the only people I ever see trying to shit on the game are people who haven't played it.

Then why are they shitting on it?

Why was Noctis' head so big in the final chapter?

It's like they made an older head and then plopped it on his tiny teen body.

...

Wrong, Luna shows more emotional range than most FF main females do their entire game, and she has as much cutscene as there are FMVs in FF7.
Romance is existent and works just fine.
It doesn't fall appart at all after Leviathan, if anything the story only picks up and becomes more intense with more stakes.
All of them have clearly changed by that point which is extremely obvious just from comparing them to the start of the game. You really don't know what character development is do you? It doesn't mean doing a 180, it means growing as a character and building on top of what was already there which they all did.
Yes it's very clearly evident that 10 years have passed.
Tenebrae was destroyed when you got there, it serves its purpose.
There is telling what's going on in the ending with it being very well established what's happening and clearly evident to even the most casual viewer, nothing was generic at all and it all pays off.
You are literally told what the other characters were doing in the world of ruin so yes it does shed light on them.
Nothing is lame about actually having to explore the world to discover its secrets and learn about the story, in fact that is what RPGs should be doing instead of forcing you into hallways and shoving shit down your throat because they think you're too stupid to find things on your own.
The DLC is out, it doesn't matter if it's in DLC anymore, this is not a valid argument and won't be by the time they do the complete collection either
The only valid thing you have said so far
No the game had over 150 hours of content at launch, before any of the DLC or updates.
No they are not, Leviathan has a ton of spectacle and the TItan fight is just like a regular fight just at larger scale, Mat did play like shit
Timed events have nothing to do with MMO
Plat demo is a tech demo
No, Ardyn is the best villain in the entire franchise with well defined motives and evident powers, nothing about him is generic or mustache twirling.

>awful character design
Except XV has the best character design in the entire franchise. 30yo Noctis is by far the best FF protag design ever.

This guy gets it.

>Ardyn is the best villain

He is unironically becoming the best through the DLCs. He's the Reverse Flash of JRPGS

It's not perfect, but its certainly no where near as bad as Sup Forums claims it is, but then again you're on Sup Forums.

FFXV is realistically a 7/10

They made the gameplay, story, world and characters minor sideshows. The game's all about trying to show off the graphical design of the world, but the world is empty, boring and you barely know anything about it. Battles look great, but they play themselves. Characters are presumed to be interesting without any development or background given. The story comes through in occasional short cutscenes and the rest of the time you only have a vague idea of what's going on. This is a series that's supposed to be strong in all theae areas and instead they thought it'd be best to ignore all this and chase the Skyrim and GTA audience. Sales were probably ok because of this but they're killing the series in the long term with stuff like this.

>It felt like an MMO in which you were the only active player.
No it didn't.

It's more full than any other FF world

No it isn't, Behemoth quest isn't, dungeon quests aren't, on tour quests aren't

No they didn't, they felt well crafted and specifically designed with keen artistic direction and level design, some of the best in the franchise

They are as full if not more so than towns in any other FF and there is more to do in them than in other FFs too.

NPCs say more things and more interesting things than random NPCs do in older FFs

The game wasn fun to play and explore.


You can manually drive, not an argument.

Nothing about combat is automated, it's manual ARPG combat and you have manual control over every action Noctis does.


No it isn't because you have buffs to have unlimited stamina plus outfits to have unlimited stamina, plus you have chocobo and the regalia to go off road. Did you even play the fucking game?

What the fuck, no they don't, you just do the Behemoth quest to unlock the chocobos and then you have chocobo's as they always are, they are viable as soon as you get them, all the "level" on them does is boost their stamina, which you can do from giving them buffs at camp anyway


You only have to repair it once and it only happens at the very beginning of the game as part of an interactive cutscene.
>venture to those ruins in the distance or this isolated area only to find a useless item or nothing at all
There is magic.
Summons actually fit into the narrative and have proper context, plus far more impact than summons in other FFs
>bosses and combat was mostly QTE and mindless button mashing
Bosses and combat was mostly manual, "QTEs" were optional and there is only 2 boss fights in the entire game that has them mandatory, and even then that's only like a few button presses anyway at the very end of the fight.

The characters and story was very good.

Holy shit stop talking to your self, you absolute loony. No one is ever going to take someone who's Twitter feed for the past half-decade has been nothing but gay XV shit and also spent that half-decade damage controlling on every forum imaginable. You literally invalidate yourself by just existing as the fanatic fantard you are. I actually wouldn't mind having a debate with a normal, well adjusted human regarding XV, because they can think for themselves and aren't deluded by years of fan-art and staying in their little XV bubble on Twitter. Your opinions have zero credibility and will never have credibility.

Luna isn't a bimbo and she isn't a forced anything, she is also the most important figure within the games world, the opposite of a "literally who"

You can't "romance" anyone in any FF you fucking idiot, don't even try and act like FF7 or 10 has "romance", you don't do shit to impact the canon as far as those "dates" or hidden value goes.

You don't need to purchase them because they already develop in the game, the DLC just shows more of it and even then people who bought hte game bought he season pass as part of the game, thus they just bought the game which the DLC is already a part off, not an argument

The anime shows more depth to them than any party in FF has done in the past, and even then that's all done far more in depth in the game anyway

Ignis going blind was not only one of the most impactful things to ever happen in FF but the fact that they didn't just handwave it and actually dealt with it too was far more than FF has ever done for character being afflicted in the past.

>that corridor level was an abomination
No it wasn't, it was just a standard fortress dungeon.

>I can't even recall most of what went on this game
That's because you havn't played it.

>muh sad ending for the feels
Yeah it has a sad ending which is also the best ending any FF has ever had.

So Sonic 06 is shit because it ripped off KH2?

It depends whether or not you're judging it as a JRPG. As a JRPG 7/10 would be extremely generous

Jealousy?

That's still a shit score.

>she is also the most important figure within the games world
Then why does she have less than ten minutes of screen time?

No, you uninformed idiot. Sonic '06 is shit for having horrible art-direction, being a buggy, unfinished mess, and having a terrible story, like XV.

This

gay as fuck
not ff

Yeah this is important to know. If it's being judged as an old school turn-based JRPG than it obviously isn't in line with what is expected.
Basically it isn't outdated shit with a piss poor story that uses visual storytelling

This. It's rare for a JRPG protagonist to look like a man so we cherish any time it happens.

>you're talking to yourself for some reason
Do you have proof? You seem triggered because you got BTFO and have to cling onto some trivial shit instead of making actual arguments. What the fuck credibility do you even have when you haven't even made an argument?

I think you need to fix your detector.

Are you autistic?

>Shit game gets a shit score
Not seeing the problem.

She has as much screentime as your average Zelda, who is the equivalent to Luna in XV.

Why did you just described KH2?

First of all she has at least 30 minutes of screentime. Second of all important figures within a game don't always need to be at the forefront of screentime and screen presence. Take Zelda for example.

ff is pretty gay though in general

>the guys all hit on girls and openly flirt with them
>the girls also openly flirt with the guys

>b-but it's gay because they are guys and they are friends

Things that never happen in Final Fantasy XV for $500.

>FFXIII managed to be 'more FF' than XV.
The fuck? No it didn't

FF has a world map with tons, NPCs, classic Amano monster designs, magitek enemies, actual world exploration, dungeons, development characters and story elements straight from the classic FFs like the plague, the crystal with kingdoms warring over it, magitek society etc.

FF13 is literally just a corridor straight line with no exploration and you can't backtrack to previous areas for 80% of the game and then an empty circle grass plain with only a few monsters in it for 1 chapter. 13 doesn't have any classic FF tropes in it at all.

>help guys I didn't play XV or notice Prompto constantly talking about and obsessing over Cidney, Iris getting wet just from being near Noctis, Aranea openly acting flirty with the guys etc

You will never have credibility, ever. Look at yourself. You are the exact kind of person people stay away from in discussions. In terms of being a fanboy, you are an open book and you have been for a long time. No one on this board, or any forum will or should ever take you seriously. You are a detriment to yourself, a walking contradiction. You really think you can defend XV with a long history of almost cartoon-like fanaticism behind you? It's time for a reality check. And the reality is that you're a loud, obnoxious autist who has invested way too many years of his life into a shit game, that he's too stubborn now to admit it to himself that it was all for nothing. I, repeat, you will never be taken seriously. There are people out there that like XV, and are superior candidates to have a discussion with because they aren't lunatics.

Did you even play it?

Unfortunately.

>He says as he has no actual argument and ignores how he was just BTFO again.

You seem mad because not only did you get destroyed here but also on gamefaqs, you have not only been fucking invalidated but you are so in denial about this that you now have to cling to trivial shit to try and attack the poster instead of the argument, because you have no argument. The only lunatic here is you

Give up.

Jesus christ you couldn't be more autist if you tried. You're responding to multiple people

are any weapon DLCs worth buying?

So that's a no.