Metal Gear Solid 4 is the worst game in the series.

Owen Thompson
Owen Thompson

... and it's not even close.

Shit writing, nonsense story.
Fan-service up the ass to the point it couldn't even stand on its own if it wanted to.
Practically 4-1 (or there abouts) cutscene to gameplay ratio.
Gameplay going to shit by Act 3 (a boring, linear as fuck trailing sequence, followed by a shit, on rails bike chase)
Dwarf Gecko, the worst enemies in the series, period.
Bringing the series most central character back for a single after credits cutscene, and then simply killing him off again.

So, why was Metal Gear Solid 5 worse again?

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Gavin Stewart
Gavin Stewart

I'll just leave this here...

Matthew Harris
Matthew Harris

If you have to ask that you're no MGS fan.

Zachary Hall
Zachary Hall

MGSV isn't even a finished game so it's technically worse. But you're right that MGS4 is a blight on the franchise and only praised because it's babby's first Metal Gear. You forgot to mention how returning characters who had no business being there in the first place were given inconsistent, poorly developed personalities and motives.

Bentley Mitchell
Bentley Mitchell

All MGS games are shit.

Isaiah Scott
Isaiah Scott

Whatever, at least the gameplay didnt go to shit three hours in.

Noah Hill
Noah Hill

I hated the end, they killed off the ENTIRE fucking emotional payoff with that huge moronic speech that just had to be forced in there.

God damn I hate MGS4, it shits over hte previous games in the series by retconning tons shit. Also the gameplay just sucks, the active camo makes it almost trivial.

I just got so mad at the fact that nobody knows Big Boss enough to see that he has the patch on the wrong eye when they transport around his body

Jackson Bailey
Jackson Bailey

people genuinely think MGS writing is anything other than hot garbage

It was silly even back when Liquid was whining about genes in MGS1.

Leo King
Leo King

I'm convinced no MGS game will ever be as bad as peacewalker, holy FUCK did that game suck cocks, one of the worst games i've ever played

Levi Howard
Levi Howard

Because 5 was plain unfinished fucknuts, but you already knew that. 4s story was shit, but the sheer amount of extras, secrets, setpieces, streamlined mechanics, and callbacks will always make it more memorable than "you are snake" hurr durr. Get over it kid.

Logan White
Logan White

I haven't played it, but I will say I really doubt it's worse than PW. that game was absolute shit.

Ian Sullivan
Ian Sullivan

I still laugh when I think about Meryl.

Naomi shows up
hot as fuck
Mei Link shows up
total qt
Meryl shows up
would fit in better in Gears of War

Isaiah Watson
Isaiah Watson

why was Metal Gear Solid 5 worse again?
Because it literally has nothing to do with MGS anymore.

MGS4 was shit, yes. But at least it had Hayter and not some Hollywood C grade "actor", And at least it wasn't made for CoD + GTA players. It also still had tons of difficulty settings. etc.

Levi Ortiz
Levi Ortiz

Obviously keeps playing the series since mgs1. "lel, teh writing suk tho"

Don't know what that says about you guy, but ok.

Zachary Stewart
Zachary Stewart

yeah it was SO GOOD up until bibo showed up right

no fuck you it was bad the first time someone mentioned nanomachines

Ryder Martinez
Ryder Martinez

Nanomachines have been around since MGS1 retard.

Parker Williams
Parker Williams

So what you're saying, is that it was held together by (poor) fanservice?

I rest my case.

Julian Rogers
Julian Rogers

I don't need to enjoy the writing to play the games. The skip cutscene button exists for a reason.

Hudson Lewis
Hudson Lewis

He means if you take it seriously instead of go along with the ridiculously cheesy plot and enjoy the laughs you're going to be disappointed and look like a huge nerd on some Mongolian blanket weaving forum

Leo Ward
Leo Ward

Nanomachines have been around since MGS1 retard

Not like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kNrIn8H32c

(EvERyTHInG IS NAnOMaCHINeS!!!)

Ryan Hernandez
Ryan Hernandez

but was it used to explain literally every single plot points the series had up to that part of the story?

Caleb Jones
Caleb Jones

MGS V is like Zelda BotW: way different from the rest of the series, still great games.

Joseph Evans
Joseph Evans

muh fanservice
I rest my case.

He's right. MGS5 has a stupid whore pandering to people, who want to jack off.
Some people call that shit "fanservice" aka "dickservice".
At LEAST MGS4 didn't have something like that.

Asher Reed
Asher Reed

Not everything was explained away by the nanomachines, plenty of spooky shit like Mantis, Fortune and Volgin (etc) were never explained away by technology.

Jack Price
Jack Price

MGS V is like Zelda BotW
You are literally insane.

BotW has a massive open world filled with hidden things and stuff. You can climb literally anywhere. Explore everything.
MGS5 has a barren empty "world", but instead of at least being somewhat open, you have small corridors instead and you are blocked off everywhere.

There are absolute opposites.
One is a masterpiece.
The other one is pure shit.

You are either a moron, or you have never played BotW.

Christopher Cook
Christopher Cook

Fuck off faggotwoman, MGS doen not concern you. MGS4 had plenty of tits and ass.

Hudson Sanchez
Hudson Sanchez

B&B unit
not fanservice

Boy you sure are dumb

Ryan Lewis
Ryan Lewis

tfw The Cobras had parasites

Owen Scott
Owen Scott

It was actually the best, it has a certain vibe to it

Cooper Gomez
Cooper Gomez

so who the fuck is the one on the far right

Tyler Moore
Tyler Moore

Completely agree.
MGS4 was so childish, so both over the top and under the bottom. EVERYTHING is retarded in a gameplay and technical way.
Its like one of those cheap ass animes for retards that somehow got some decent visuals.
The most ridiculous about mgs4 is its story. Its so fucking bad. And im 90% sure its all kojimas fault. I wish the new singleplayer metalgear would be done without that overgrown 13yo hikki faggot.

Joseph Nelson
Joseph Nelson

idk 5 isn't like way better or anything, i think i would probably put 5 lower just because it doesn't have as much love in it, and that extra effort has always been the best thing about the series

Juan Torres
Juan Torres

You are wrong.
MGS2 is THE worst game in series, with its terrible story, terrible MC, awful gameplay and map design, and all the overall downgrades it did to the series.

Also has that very same 4:1 cutscene-to-gameplay ratio.

Evan Baker
Evan Baker

I said
At LEAST MGS4 didn't have something like that.

Yes, those were whores too. But AT LEAST that was one small time each.

MGS4 was shit
MGS5 was shitter.

Brody Gomez
Brody Gomez

Did you not play the game? That's Screaming Mantis.

Cooper White
Cooper White

Screaming Mantis aka Bubblebutt Headhoncho

Kayden Jones
Kayden Jones

Fuck the "vibe" whatever that means. I don't even know what planet you'd have to be on to think its better than 1,2 or 3 (ir even 5) but I'm guessing it'd be planet fucktard.

Anthony Gray
Anthony Gray

For a moment there, I thought you just described MGS2.

Maybe it's time for MGS-babbies to realize that their series has always been whacky animu-shit.

Kevin Wood
Kevin Wood

How can someone get this mad over a story that already made no fucking sense

Xavier Gutierrez
Xavier Gutierrez

is it the same person who post this thread everyday?

Nathaniel Morgan
Nathaniel Morgan

You can even kill Quiet if you want, or at least dress her in a less stupid outfit that isn't virginbait.

B&B is much worse. It's just a bunch of girls wearing skin-tight lingerie suits that pose ass first to the camera.

Caleb Campbell
Caleb Campbell

None of your post makes sense. This thread is shit and you're the reason along with faggot OP.

Dominic Thomas
Dominic Thomas

No, believe it or not there are far more of us out there that think this game sucks donkeyballs.

Levi Baker
Levi Baker

MGS2 is THE worst game in series, with its terrible story
underage detected
you need to be 25 to post here.

Xavier Reyes
Xavier Reyes

Fuck off MGS4 is never getting a 360 port, stop crying.

Carson Diaz
Carson Diaz

Sure is nu-/v/ in here

MGS4 is a technical marvel that will likely never be surpassed. Games are simply not made with that level of quality anymore and they probably never will be again.

Piss off back to your undertale subreddit

Xavier Powell
Xavier Powell

You can even kill Quiet if you want
Exactly.
The whore is even 100% useless.
At least the 4 whores in MGS4 were (bad) boss fights.

William Cox
William Cox

Well because i like videogames and can close my eyes on some inconsistencies in a game if gameplay is fun. When gameplay obviously has some problems, i try to cover that focusing on story. MGS4 positined itself as a VERY SERIOUS GAME GUYS MUCH PHILOSOPHYCAL SPEECHES SO NANOMACHINES SUCH SYSTEM PROXY WARS DURR, and failed on all levels: retarded installations, retarded looks, retarded plot, retarded gameplay. Im mad because i wanted to like this game, but i cant like shit even if i force myself.

Luke Allen
Luke Allen

You don't know shit. B&B corps has armor, it's only after you defeat them that they get sexier.

Jackson King
Jackson King

Nope, you suck along with your shit, favorite mgs.

Michael Bennett
Michael Bennett

None of your post makes sense
Yes, it does, monkey.

Quite is a useless whore following you around all the time and pandering to your dick all the time.
The 4 whores in MGS4 were at least (bad) boss fights and they didn't pander to your dick the whole fucking game.

MGS4 was basically a blueprint on that matter for Metal Grind 5.

out of ideas
let's add whores

Adrian Murphy
Adrian Murphy

it makes perfect sense, there's these parasites see, and these nanomachines, and these robots and these genes and the threat of nuclear armageddon and then you stir it all up in a big pot of nerd's fear-piss and there you have it.

Jason Bell
Jason Bell

Reddit tier memes
Mods just nuke this underage Xfag thread.

Brayden Brown
Brayden Brown

I already own it along with a ps3 and pretty much every home console since the 5th gen... and guess what?

MGS4 still sucks the shit out of an ass.

William Jenkins
William Jenkins

basically cheating
yep completely useless lol

Levi Johnson
Levi Johnson

You sound like some bitch that lost her way on the internet, go back to faceberg faggot.

Sebastian Turner
Sebastian Turner

.........METAL GEAR???????

Brayden Long
Brayden Long

tard

Jeremiah Rogers
Jeremiah Rogers

yeah but that's still wrong

Ayden Peterson
Ayden Peterson

the only good game in the series is 3

Hudson Bennett
Hudson Bennett

Cry harder and they probably will, pleb.

Eli Johnson
Eli Johnson

MGS4's only flaw is that it wrapped up a story and neckbeards hate definitive endings because it's not their fanfic

MGS2 was a good game and had a cool story but it would've been a retarded ending for the series

Parker Reed
Parker Reed

u downy

Grayson Parker
Grayson Parker

MGS4's only flaw is that it wrapped up a story and neckbeards hate definitive endings because it's not their fanfic

It wrapped up the story about as poorly as it could have, and that's one of only 100 diffrent reason why it sucked, fanboy.

Daniel Gonzalez
Daniel Gonzalez

no no, the first game should have been the last game, with 2 being a sort of bonus fun extra thing.

then you can have 3..and something better instead of peacewalker and 4 and 5

Liam Sanchez
Liam Sanchez

eh 1/10

No U
Checks out

Benjamin Young
Benjamin Young

you can't even give a good reason idiot

Ethan Butler
Ethan Butler

This game kinda reminds me of the star wars prequels.
The way Kojima attempted to tackle new themes, but keeping the same old shit that everyone loves.
So you get a clunky story that feels barely connected to the rest of the series, filled to the brim with characters and events we've seen before.

Brody Wood
Brody Wood

Sure is nu-/v/ in here
Yeah, you are here.

Jonathan Bailey
Jonathan Bailey

I enjoyed pretty much every single MGS game except for Phantom Pain and Peace Walker.

Xavier Bell
Xavier Bell

1/10

We're not ranking your girlfriend here user, but it works as a mgs4 score, faggot..

Chase Rivera
Chase Rivera

Idk why they opted for butch looking Meryl over this earlier render.

Thomas Gray
Thomas Gray

lrn2read OP illiterate fucktard.

Ian Morales
Ian Morales

MGS4 is a technical marvel that will likely never be surpassed

It's nearly 10 years old and game tech ages like milk, it's already been surpassed you dumb faggot.

Chase Torres
Chase Torres

those delts what the FUCK

Levi Stewart
Levi Stewart

Fanboy

Scathing

If I was a fanboy I'd like MGSV

Tyler Powell
Tyler Powell

idk what you're talking about babe

Lincoln Nelson
Lincoln Nelson

Meryl never skips upper body day.

Blake Cook
Blake Cook

Real women shouldn't

Colton Myers
Colton Myers

I like MGSV and I'm not a fanboy.

Game's alright. Story is ass, but who cares. If sneaking around feels good, I'm in.

I do however despise most other MGS games.

Asher Price
Asher Price

Nanomachines son

at least Johnny is natty

Jace Hall
Jace Hall

lrn2read OP illiterate fucktard...
idk what you're talking about babe

The IQ of your average mgs4 fan, everybody.

Carson Foster
Carson Foster

people who hate on mgs4 tend to be mgs3babys.

mgs1-2-4 are the perfect games, anyone who wants to know what mgs is all about, play this.
gaming will never be the same

Ryan Allen
Ryan Allen

fanboy, obvs

V was a big departure from the standard formula, most fanboys hate it, so no, you wouldn't.

Fanboy

Xavier Powell
Xavier Powell

Mgs 4 is perfect! I-I-I swear it is, ok?

Yeah, no.

Gavin Ortiz
Gavin Ortiz

1-2-3 is what Metal Gear is all about

John Mitchell
John Mitchell

I know, where the fuck did he get 4 from?

Parker King
Parker King

1>3>2>V>4>PW

Caleb Jackson
Caleb Jackson

3>1>2>V>PW>>>Dogshit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MGS4

Luke Hill
Luke Hill

one non-interactive video is better than another

fuck off to /tv/ with your gook dramas

Jaxon Powell
Jaxon Powell

you will never have a group of people that you are close to like in the mgs series
you will never go through emotions and tough times together
you are wasting your best days in this hole and will die alone

Angel Garcia
Angel Garcia

MGS4 a game that came out almost 10 years ago is still talked about on Sup Forums almost daily
worst

lmao try harder

Ian Perry
Ian Perry

And you're what? on the same board wasting yours watching it, lmao, kys.

Asher Gray
Asher Gray

mgs4 is kino

Christopher Perez
Christopher Perez

Everyone in the MGS series was made to suffer though

Except for Colonel I guess

Brandon Myers
Brandon Myers

it's still talked about because even 10 years on, real fans can't believe how bad it ended up being, its STILL taking time to fucking digest...

Jacob Peterson
Jacob Peterson

Wrong. see

Brody Bennett
Brody Bennett

this deflection is dripping wet with misery

Isaiah Gray
Isaiah Gray

Nah he had to eat Roses cooking.

Nolan Gonzalez
Nolan Gonzalez

Double-wrong, asshat see my post here

Camden Myers
Camden Myers

The actual gameplay was great though

Jackson Scott
Jackson Scott

guess i found the master of projection

Nice.

Jackson Wood
Jackson Wood

You never played MGO2 I take it? Doesn't matter your opinion is shit, owning things doesn't make your opinion any better. Go ahead articulate why you dislike MGS4 and I'll prove to you why you're wrong.

Nathaniel Richardson
Nathaniel Richardson

Maybe for the first two hours, then you had...

linear as fuck boring trailing sequence
fanservice, shit on rails bike shooter
mediocre bossfight
shadow moses filled with the worst enemies in the series
decent bossfight
some other shit mixed with far too many cutscenes
Ugh, cutscenes...
10 miniutes of actual gameplay
shit, fanservice mantis rip off bossfight
QTE microwave hallway
cutscene, cutscene.... (sigh) cutscene...
Good bossfight (probably the best part of the game)
More cutscenes, then after credit cutscene (which was godawful, btw)
end of game

Game was shit, period.

Jeremiah Reyes
Jeremiah Reyes

Look both come from shit stains industry wise, the fact is one came with online multiplayer and if you just ignore thats existence because you can't comprehend the work it takes to make a game from top to bottom maybe you should shut the fuck up. BOTW GOTY is a sad fucking year.

Aiden Taylor
Aiden Taylor

LInear crouching around in act 1
Linear crouching around with 20 lbs more ass, pussy and camo in act 2
Nobody likes act 3 and beyond
GOAT

Kayden Green
Kayden Green

why don't you just lern2read my OP?

...and fine this greentext post heh, good-fucking-luck.

Elijah Lee
Elijah Lee

Its not just technical skill dumbass

Ian Sanchez
Ian Sanchez

lern2read
can't write

Ryder Rogers
Ryder Rogers

Youre a feggot, kysf.

Isaac Allen
Isaac Allen

Yeah, ok, so what did the almighty mgs4 do that something like crysis didn't do one year earlier?

...15 minute installs?

lel, fuck off dipshit.

Nathan Russell
Nathan Russell

can't meme

lel, obviously can't disprove my points either.

You fail just like shitty mgs4.

Cooper Gutierrez
Cooper Gutierrez

Youre a feggot

The typical IQ of a mgs4 fan everybody.

Hahahah!

Henry Thomas
Henry Thomas

Not liking the homage to MGS3's final bike sequence
Not doing a zero kill zero alert run even on bosses on extreme
Not liking the shake up in enemies
Not being into the series enough to appreciate all the loose ends Kojima tied up in cutscenes against all odds considering how fucked up and crazy the story is
Not going through the hallway scene on Extreme and getting massive WTF OH NO from snake almost dying
Cutscenes that explain shit that was thought impossible to explain
Ignoring all the twists in turns and ultra mind fucks the series is know for
Ignoring the poetic single final sequences and godtier music
Completely missing the ultimate mind fuck at the end after the crdits roll where Snake meets Big Boss in heaven after he shoots himself in the head

lmao MGS plebeians

Bentley Rodriguez
Bentley Rodriguez

The concept presented by the MGSV trailers was better than the actual game.

I'll take 4 over V any day.

Brody Rivera
Brody Rivera

Not liking the homage to MGS3's final bike sequence

Shit, inferior fan service to the mgs 3 bike ride (and the gameplay wasn't even good)

Not doing a zero kill zero alert run even on bosses on extreme

I did, and it's the easiest challenge in the series
now try getting foxhound rank on mgs2, lowskill

Not liking the shake up in enemies

Dwarf Gecko?! are a "shake up" ok, when do they start being good then?

Not being into the series enough to appreciate all the loose ends Kojima tied up in cutscenes against all odds considering how fucked up and crazy the story is

IE; everything is explained with nanomachines to tie it all up for all you dumb-dumbs.

Not going through the hallway scene on Extreme and getting massive WTF OH NO from snake almost dying

It's a cutscene, fuckwit you barley have to press triangle (and you can do it every, very slowly, go check)

Cutscenes that explain shit that was thought impossible to explain

Bad writing/ kojima pulling every thing out of his ass because he wanted mgs2 to be the last one.

Ignoring all the twists in turns and ultra mind fucks the series is know for

The "twists" were fucking stupid, big boss is suddenly "alive" then dies at the end of the cutscene, puhlese.

Ignoring the poetic single final sequences and godtier music

Fanboy moron detceted.

Completely missing the ultimate mind fuck at the end after the crdits roll where Snake meets Big Boss in heaven after he shoots himself in the head

Wow, you think this is real? congrats, you are even more retarded than the average mgs4 fanboy.

You lose. Score: You Are A Fucking Retard/10

Cooper Nguyen
Cooper Nguyen

Well good for you. While you only talk about how would you play mgs4, people just playing mgs5 and having fun with it. Numbers dont lie. Mgs4 is more than dead.

Benjamin Bailey
Benjamin Bailey

4 is the second best Metal Gear, haters can suck it

Benjamin Gonzalez
Benjamin Gonzalez

daily reminder that metal solid 4 is one of the best rated and selling games in the franchise while mgs3 rated lower and flop.

dont be a jealous sheep like mgs3baby, mgs4 still hold up to this day, the gameplay is fun with lots of replay value and you can do things that not even possible on mgsv, the story is fun as fuck, the music is phenomenal.

it only fault was not allowing solid snake to commit proper suicide.

Cooper Gray
Cooper Gray

It's still shit.

Christopher Howard
Christopher Howard

Bike Sequence is dope if you do a no kill no alert run .
Everyone knows 4 is the easiest besides V which doesn't even count because it's Tactical Espionage operations not TEAction. Doesn't make it any less worthy of being MGS as fuck.

Boss, I can get Foxhound rank on the hardest version of MGS2, everyone knows it's the toughest because there's stricter rules and movement is nearly as limited as MGS1. That shit is only hard if you ghost it.

Dwarf Gekko are an unexpected change even if cosmetic, it makes sense considering the atmosphere Kojima was after. Obviously sectins of the last 3 chapters could be longer no doubt, but at least it still feels like an MGS game whereas V might as well be a different game altogether almost completely devoid of that classic MGS tone.

Again that's not accurate plenty of shit in the series like Physco Mantis, Fortune etc. isn't exp[lained through nanomachines. When it is it makes perfect sense considering that nanomachines have been around since MGS1, it's fucking MGS bro come on now eheh.

Nigger, it's MGS the father of cut-scenes in videogames, before most games even used voice acting, of-fucking course it's going to be heavy on cut-scenes especially since it was meant to be the last one that talked about events in the future past the events of MGS2. It's only the second time we get to actually play as Snake since 2 was taken over by that faggot Raiden.

The twists are as Metal Gear as it gets, idunno what you're expecting. Your interpretation of the ending is just your take on it, it's a common mistake. The reality of the ending is that Snake actually shoots himself and dies, that's why the credit roll for a bit and then out of no where Big Boss shows up (that's because they're both already dead) it fucking beautiful because it's abstract and yet provides the ultimate closure since that is what Snake does, he alwasy defeats Big Boss, it's his life's purpose even after death.

Heh w/e

Austin Hall
Austin Hall

Can't wait for this fucked to be playable in RPCS3 so I can finally hack the shit out of it and make non lethal amunition available for all the weapons and finally enjoy all that gun porn without compromising stealth.

Justin Hernandez
Justin Hernandez

Suicide
Going to Heaven
Big Boss
Being in Heaven

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