Hello! I would like to purchase 4 Pokemon card booster packs

Luis Torres
Luis Torres

Hello! I would like to purchase 4 Pokemon card booster packs. These packs will contain 9 random cards, with the total value of all cards being completely random.

this should be illegal according to Sup Forums

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vHHfzGnKyg
Sebastian Rogers
Sebastian Rogers

it is guaranteed that you'll get an epic tho

Tyler Perez
Tyler Perez

Yeah, but you actually get a physical product. Something you can touch and hold and put into a binder. It's real.

Digital shit is already in the game and you have to pay for a CHANCE to get it.

Kevin Hughes
Kevin Hughes

Fuck off man, there's a difference at least with packs you get online codes for extra packs

Eli Nelson
Eli Nelson

Yeah, I'm not a fan of lootboxes but this is the clear legal precedent which has been around for decades.

Kevin Powell
Kevin Powell

False. You can open 10000000 booster packs and never counter the highest rarity.

Nicholas Wilson
Nicholas Wilson

Numerous schools banned TCG's for gambling reasons and some places tried legislating them. It isn't unheard of so it's not ridiculous of an example.

Xavier Moore
Xavier Moore

for gambling reasons
You fucking retard. They banned TCG cards because people kept getting in fights over them, stealing them, and they were just an all around distraction. Same reason toys and video games were banned in most schools.

How underage are you?

Nolan Russell
Nolan Russell

wat

Elijah Morris
Elijah Morris

Except they literally did? I am sorry your example turned out to be retarded.

Andrew Russell
Andrew Russell

Except they literally did?
Why do you talk like a retarded teenage girl, user? Also, no you're fucking stupid. I can't believe you fell for that meme.

Charles Fisher
Charles Fisher

Mfw my schools legit never even said anything about TCGs.

Jaxson Sullivan
Jaxson Sullivan

Buying Evolutions

You deserve to be made fun of.

David Cruz
David Cruz

It's called a TRADING card game.
Not only can you use them in your decks, you can collected them in a binder, there's plenty of people that just collect these like people collect stamps and not even play the game they are meant for, plus since they are physical you can trade your multiples with other people.
Don't compare this shit to digital loot boxes that are worth absolutely nothing.
even if the world would end you could still use these fucking things as tinder for a fire, what can you do with that rare skin you got in your cash grab loot boxes?

Colton Torres
Colton Torres

Buying individual packs in general

Nathaniel Flores
Nathaniel Flores

Neo Sup Forums at finnest

In every packet you have detailed many normal, rare and foil cards you get.

In loot crates, is complete random. Also they are destroying the western game industry

Isaac Ward
Isaac Ward

buy Pokemon booster pack
get card that needs an Energy card to attack and needs to evolve from another Pokemon
don't get any Energy cards or the pre-evo in the pack

IT'S NOT FAIR

Bentley Fisher
Bentley Fisher

TCG boosters =/= Video game lootboxes, apples and oranges you fucking retard.

Elijah Moore
Elijah Moore

Member when you just paid for the game once and had everything? I member.

Carson Perez
Carson Perez

That doesn't make it gambling. Just because money is real and tangible doesn't mean it's exempt from gambling either.

Aiden Sanchez
Aiden Sanchez

aftermarket can offer anycard to you for the right price.

lootboxes forces monopoly and inflates the value by tampering with % chance

Jason Moore
Jason Moore

MTG literally had gambling in it early on. It wasn't because "hurr durr muh packs"

Brayden Lopez
Brayden Lopez

Say that to my face nigger.

spend $50+ on one card
need 2-3 to play any competitive deck

If your luck ain't good enough to blind pull your deck, your luck ain't good enough to top deck your way to top cut at Nationals.

Nathaniel Reed
Nathaniel Reed

Just because it's a bad deal doesn't mean it should be illegal.

Fucking retards.

Jordan Lee
Jordan Lee

It's called a MOBA.
Not only can you use skins on your characters, you can collected them, there's plenty of people that just collect these like people collect stamps and not even play the game they are meant for, plus since they are on the Steam Marketplace you can just sell whatever loot you don't want or trade it.
Don't compare this shit to trading card games where you spend $9 for a piece of paper.
even if the world would end you could still brag about being a virgin because if you play children's card games and the world ends you'll go the way of the Dodo anyways.

Fixed it for you.

Jason Wilson
Jason Wilson

buy a trading card pack
open it up
can trade cards I get with other people
can sell cards I get with money
can put together cards into decks however I want
can even play "illegal" decks with friends if they're all fine with it
can use my cards forever
can sell off my entire collection anytime I want

Have you noticed that absolutely no games with lootboxes will allow players to trade anything between themselves? There is a reason for that. Rather than getting a rare card and selling it off to someone who wants it for a good chuck of cash, or trading for something you want, or using it in a deck and buying other cards for that deck... video games insist that you (and only you) must open every rare item that you'd ever want to play. There is no "let's get three of the four I want and just buy the last" mentality. There is no "this is really rare but I don't give a shit, let's sell it to pay for more packs" mentality.

And that is because publishers know damn well that they'd lose a significant amount to sales if people were allowed to trade as they do in real live. So they's just remove trading entirely.

Jordan Perez
Jordan Perez

God damn any Lelel variant is crazy expensive nowadays even the regular art ultra rare you pulled

Jacob Ward
Jacob Ward

gambling shouldn't be illegal but regulated like it is rightfully done with the official odds being listed as the chance to receive a given prize like every other gambling outlet. why should video games get a free pass to gambling law because its digitized.

Jayden Taylor
Jayden Taylor

Using all your luck to get the cards
Not saving your luck for when you're playing

Justin Peterson
Justin Peterson

I've pulled two so far. I've also pulled both regular and FA Shaymemes.

I'll admit my luck is probably what keeps me still buying packs over singles.

Leo Carter
Leo Carter

Except everyone knows boosters are a shit deal for everybody. Any smart retailer would either sell boxes or open them themselves to sell singles.

Adam Torres
Adam Torres

Not buying booster boxes

Aiden Cox
Aiden Cox

not buying booster cases

Jason Ortiz
Jason Ortiz

physical product
printed cardboard

If you really wanted you could just print your own cards.

Jacob Nelson
Jacob Nelson

Cards are physical, forever. DLC on OverMeme is useless once the game is pulled from the servers.

Lucas Long
Lucas Long

TCG was banned because dumbass kids trading their Machamps for Charizards

Blake Ross
Blake Ross

why not buy individual cards? Or structure decks?
It's a better investment

Liam Fisher
Liam Fisher

Can you still buy gen 1/2 Pokemon & Yugioh boosters or are they all owned by scalpers now? I mean I could just go to a thrift store and buy a binder full of cards but where's the fun in that.

Charles Thomas
Charles Thomas

But you can sell your crap on TF2, DOTA 2, KF2 and many other shit games on steam, when it was still profitable I made about 2000 by trading.

Aaron Hughes
Aaron Hughes

Shit, you guys remember crazy bones?

Zachary King
Zachary King

I got a few as a sample at a fair I think

Samuel Phillips
Samuel Phillips

They should be illegal desu senpai. Card games should all me open source, you should be able to play a free online version where you have access to every card, or order physical cards from a website where they ship them to you for however much it costs to make them and ship them, not an arbitrary value of hundreds of dollars or some shit for a piece of cardboard.

Mason Martinez
Mason Martinez

hielocos

How can you go from bones to ice? These things were traded by coca cola for bottle lids and marketed as ice in Mexico.

Leo Richardson
Leo Richardson

There are turbo faggots on this site right now defending lootboxes. you're a bigger joke now than you've ever been Sup Forums

Elijah Howard
Elijah Howard

Guranteed 1 epic and 2 rares per pack, can resell and trade the leftover cards.

vs lootboxes that not only don't publish rates, don't guarantee shit and which you can't resell or trade with other people

Kill yourself shill

Nolan Clark
Nolan Clark

ok i stopped playing after prime card. Is this op shit normal now?

Aaron Carter
Aaron Carter

One day, 9/10 (cool kid) femanon girl sitting in her desk next to me in the classroom
"Hi user I saw you have Loot Boxes earlier"
omg femanon knows what my favorite hobby is, is hot, and wants to talk to me about something I really like. This never happens
"Do you have Charmander and Squirtle?" I nod as she out some Loot Boxes of her own, she collects these?
"Can I give you, um...this one for Squirtle?"
Its an Ivysaur
Explain to her that her Loot Box is rarer, she doesn't seem to care though
Offer her both Loot Boxes so it feels like a fair trade
Time to change classes, but I don't have either Loot Box on me
"Here user, you hold onto it. I trust you"
I will guard this Loot Box with my life
Sit on the toilet in the boys bathroom and stare at it

Yep, they're the same alright.

Joseph Howard
Joseph Howard

thats all in steam bucks isnt it?

Carter Cook
Carter Cook

Yeah, it should be. Does anyone NOT regret buying these things when they were kids? I wonder how much of my single mom's money I spent on these pieces of paper. How many duplicates of caterpie and magikarp I had, I'll never really know. I still have that fucking binder, and I KNOW there are cards that I have 10+ of, and I really ended up with only like 10-12 holo cards, and half of those were from the starter sets.

Jace Edwards
Jace Edwards

thought the same lol
hielocos were the shit

Bentley Watson
Bentley Watson

Basically.

170HP is just below the baseline average of 180HP for EX/GX Pokemon. The effect in particular is extremely good as you can set up essentially any deck on turn one as well as have a potential out from bad hands, hence why it's $50.

Sebastian Price
Sebastian Price

Those have physical value. 1s and 0s dont.

Owen Jenkins
Owen Jenkins

can literally get real money for them in games that allow trading.
they have no value lol.
You might as well petition for the ban of digital games in general if you're just gonna be a fucking luddite.

Hudson Gray
Hudson Gray

Shilling my post

Robert Carter
Robert Carter

get 4 codes to sell online for 4 dollars
also you have physical cards to own or TRADE or sell to use in your fucking bonfire
buy 4 lootboxes online
get nothing I want
get nothing to sell
get nothing to trade

It's completely different faggot. Also you don't buy "pokemon the card game" for 59.99 plus tax plus tip before you can even buy your packs.

Please kill yourself

Wyatt Sanders
Wyatt Sanders

Kids trade loot boxes all the time :^)

Eli Jones
Eli Jones

You were pathetic. I hope you aren't anymore.

Zachary Davis
Zachary Davis

Honestly that shit should be illegal too.

Every kind of purchase where you don't know exactly what you're getting in advance is gambling and should be classified and regulated as gambling, including TCGs, baseball cards, loot boxes, LootCrate, all of that shit's gambling. Don't try to dress it up as anything else.

Camden Perez
Camden Perez

What games with lootboxes allow trading

David Cook
David Cook

want to get back into physical TCG
have cards to make good decks
Im 29 with no car

Sebastian Robinson
Sebastian Robinson

faggot that never actually played a ccg/tcg in his life

you get a rare in every pack. and... this is a false equivalency. ccgs and loot boxes are nothing alike.

Jonathan Ortiz
Jonathan Ortiz

that first poster is talking some stupid shit, the whole business model is fucked up and these things shouldn't exist

Grayson Morris
Grayson Morris

buy a ptcg booster so you can actually play the game. No cards=no game

buy a loot crate for some random shit to use in the game and it's the main way to get high powered shit and get ahead of the rest of the player base. Game is still there but now you have to spend money for shit

Ryan Howard
Ryan Howard

open 4 packs
I just get 4 emotes of Charmander dabbing
I can't trade or resell them either

ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR

Dylan Butler
Dylan Butler

Can you sell Overwatch skins on Steam?

Things are changing, and none of the newer games (or really even the older games) let you trade stuff between players. Not Overwatch, not Hearthstone, and certainly not any new games being made.

Brayden Wood
Brayden Wood

Each only has the value others assign to it.

Or are you saying all software has less value than a single key on a keyboard?

Ayden Thomas
Ayden Thomas

buy a ptcg booster so you can actually play the game. No cards=no game

This is also important because if you want a certain card you can bet your ass someone on the internet is selling it (which is always the most cost-efficient way to get shit you want anyway)

If you want a specific thing in a lootbox? Wtf just gamble more bro surely the next box will have what you want ;)

Ryan Roberts
Ryan Roberts

Whoa...almost like gambling in any form turns people into rabid degenerates... and that's why Overwatch is so "toxic"... and games would be better if we just banned them... whoa...

Colton Adams
Colton Adams

SJWs please go

Hudson Harris
Hudson Harris

You retarded, mate?

Hunter Gray
Hunter Gray

I have other stories, like the time some younger kid traded me a Venasaur for like a Haunter. Once the trade was done he ran off laughing like an autistic sperglord immediately after the trade because it had LV47 scratched next to the HP. Apparently that destroyed the value of the loot box and I was supposed to chase after him crying for my loot box back.

Later on in recess he cried to a playground monitor, little bitch. I had to give him the box back. I can't recall what I said to the teacher but I'm pretty sure it was accurate and got me in time out.

Luke Russell
Luke Russell

Take a TCG like Final Fantasy.

A Booster Box has 36 Boosters in it, and you will guaranteed get:

252 Commons
108 Rares
29 Heroes
7 Legends
36 Foils (of any rarity)

Legends are the highest rarity card.

Nolan Edwards
Nolan Edwards

The biggest games on this list. Where have you been?

Liam Edwards
Liam Edwards

From what I've seen they're incredibly cheap

Levi Perez
Levi Perez

thats a pretty shitty list desu senpai

Christopher Edwards
Christopher Edwards

needing a car
lol

Justin Scott
Justin Scott

get generations instead much better cards imo

Lincoln White
Lincoln White

Don't know how Pokemon handles it, but in MtG there's a specific distribution of cards by rarity per packs and boxes. So if you buy multiple boxes of booster packs you'll definitely have several cards of the highest rarity. If you bought that many packs you'd probably have several copies of the entire set.

Christian Smith
Christian Smith

Think about it too, all that stuff will be gone forever once OW is gone in about 10 years time.

Cooper Nguyen
Cooper Nguyen

IT'S OK WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT!

IT'S OK WHEN VALVE DOES IT!

Luis Wilson
Luis Wilson

Get that corporate dick out of your mouth and consider what would be best for YOU. You don't have to defend their practices.

You know it would be better for everyone but the company that makes a killing off of it.

Aiden Turner
Aiden Turner

Purchasing random pixels in boxes over the Internet which can be wiped at any given moment by the devs/producers has not been around for decades.

Noah Edwards
Noah Edwards

one thing should be regulated so this other thing needs to be as well
Are you autistic? Lootboxes are a much larger problem and should be addressed accordingly. Nobody gives a shit about trading cards, and if they do, it is a small group.

Eli Gray
Eli Gray

Didn't you notice, when Wizards lost the Pokémon TCG IP all of the cards from when they ran it vanished?

Jayden Gray
Jayden Gray

Ignore the fucking $10 prebuilt deck right next to the booster packs so you can not only play the game but have a decent deck to learn from

Have it your way(tm)

Ryder Perry
Ryder Perry

Did you guys ever trade cards on the playground growing up?

Isaac Martin
Isaac Martin

TCG mechanics have yet to have a negative impact on my preferred card franchise...although some other shady practices have.

Grayson James
Grayson James

Your analogy doesn’t work. Cards are on people’s own time and they are the game.

When loot crates get added to games it’s like schools mandatorily implementing loot packs of random lessons you have to pay for. You don’t need them and can grind out basic lessons over and over to,get some points saved, but spending money unlocks more rewards more faster and higher quality ones.

Angel Allen
Angel Allen

You still have the cards and can play games with them, though. Sure, not in tournaments or official play, but you can still sit down with friends and continue to play with your Base Set Charizard if you want.

TCGs weren't really a thing in the early 80s.

Julian Robinson
Julian Robinson

Difference is the I'm not buying a pricy console/computer and paying 49.99 - 59.99 for the game in order to be able to buy the cards in said packs before I can start playing. I can just go ahead and buy the packs or even a starter deck and join in on the cardgame.

Hope this is bait because you're clearly showing retardation that even claim you're pretending can be questionable

Nicholas Cook
Nicholas Cook

You still have the cards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vHHfzGnKyg

Gabriel Fisher
Gabriel Fisher

order a sandwich
Sandwich Artist makes you a great sandwich
before you start eating the Chief Condiment Supervisor tells you that you can a random extra topping for only 50 cents to make your sandwich taste even better
you sperg out and tell him that this is gambling and it should be illegal and that they can keep their sandwich
you keep going on and on about it, your rage gradually increasing and you start screaming incoherently and tossing the contents of your sandwich all over the place
the Sandwich Artist and the Chief Condiment Supervisor fail to calm you down and call the Bagel Meister so he can explain the situation to you
he tells that it's not gambling because you are still getting a topping for your money, even if it's not the one you want
This doesn't stop your impotent rage, and as run out of your culinary ammunitions you start using your feces as a ballistic weapon
after calling the Bagel Meister a kike you storm off without even taking a bite of your sandwich, your hands smelling like feces, meatballs and Sweet and Sour Sauce

This is how people complaining about lootboxes look.

Matthew Anderson
Matthew Anderson

Sandwich Artist makes you a great sandwich

Your analogy has already failed.
You mean
Sandwich Artist makes you something that legally counts as a sandwich

Dominic Cooper
Dominic Cooper

tfw wanted to get into pokemon tcg
bought booster packs, some collection boxes, a nice binder
don't really have enough cards for a decent deck
decided to try and put together a physical copy of my bisharp deck from ptcgo
the 9 cards I need to finish it will cost me at least £35
the 2018 standard rotation has come into effect so it's expanded now
noone really to play with
have a LGS
went to the sun & moon pre-release event
actually had a good time
people there were generally friendly, only a couple of super autists
one fat friendly autist guy with an eevee obsession, had an eevee shirt, only cared about eevee cards and wore finger gloves
too afraid to go back now because I'd only have the one deck and I'd most likely lose to peoples super expensive competitive decks
been several months
want to just buy more cards for that hit of dopamine and the potential collection value

Someone pls help I just want nice pokemon cards.

David Lee
David Lee

Yeah, mostly Pokemon which nobody played they just collected their favorites. Yugioh was the one people played, because it was even easier somehow, but the way effects were written was some shit.

Jose Mitchell
Jose Mitchell

The biggest problem is when:
A) Random lootboxes are the only way to acquire a real advantage in a F2P game. Its an annoyance, but its also the least intrusive of the lootboxes systems. Most TCG fall here, physical or digital.
B) Random lootboxes in a single player game you already paid 60 dollars for. That is fucking inexcusable. Its even worse than DLC.
C) When most people buy it because of ludicrous chance of making a fortune on Ebay. That is gambling directed to kids and teens, and should be forbidden. That is mostly Valve's fault. If unusual hats were account locked, i wouldnt care nearly as much about this point as i do.

Aiden Turner
Aiden Turner

(This card is always treated as an "Archfiend" card.)

Landon Anderson
Landon Anderson

Digital gatcha items don't belong to you though, and the company can shut down their game servers without any repercussions and take all the items you spent money on.

Digital card games shouldn't exist until they allow permanent ownership of your digital cards and allow you to play even after the company has dropped support. It's already possible, but these companies don't want to stop pretending they are god and control trade, price, rarity, ability to resell and supply all in one AND still have the right to disappear with your money.

It's illegal in every other medium except video games because games are pigeon-holed and not well understood by legislators.

Connor Allen
Connor Allen

Not buying booster crates

Jordan Parker
Jordan Parker

That too. That kind of thing on the Harpie lady cards make it so you can only play one "Harpie Lady" even though there are 3 versions.

Jonathan Edwards
Jonathan Edwards

Most TCG fall here

Except not, because you can trade for, or buy, the cards you need, or get them from boosters.

Gavin Russell
Gavin Russell

More like this:
go into a restaurant
order a sandwich
tell them how you'd like it
get sandwich
eat sandwich

next day, go to restaurant to get a sandwich
told that I need to pay full price of sandwich just to get into the store
once there, need to spend 50¢ to get a random part of the sandwich
might be the bun, might be the meat, might be a condiment
who knows! but it'll be fun to roll with it
WTF I already spent the money on the sandwich just to get into the door but whatever I'm hungry
buy one selection
it's mustard
but another one
it's mustard again
end up with lettuce, tomatoes x2, ketchup, horseradish x5, mustard x7, burger patty, and all three types of relish
whatever close enough, let's do the patty with lettuce and two tomatoes, I need to get back to work
I'm sorry sir but you can only have one set of tomatoes on your burger
eat the burger and tomatoes in lettuce wrap
not what I really wanted but close enough
I'll just take the rest on the side to go for next time
I'm sorry, but components of a burger cannot be taken out of the store
we will happily "buy back" the portions you didn't eat for 1¢ each
well fuck you, I'm not doing that again

turns out every restaurant now works that way
so does the supermarket, as well

Samuel Cox
Samuel Cox

Only the online TCG. Physical (and even some online TCG) allow you to purchase or craft cards separately.

Nathan Brown
Nathan Brown

Technically there is a conversion rate in online games, i am not saying its fair, im just saying its the least shitty ways of lootboxes. Specially games that are generous with their boxes, like shadowverse.
I strongly believe the other 2 cases are much worse and the real reason of all this talk.

Camden Gonzalez
Camden Gonzalez

Correct me if I'm wrong, OP, but...

Booster packs contain 10 cards
1 is guaranteed to be a rare, while the rest are common, uncommon
all cards can be used to enchance your game decks in some form or another
cards that you dont want can be sold, traded, kept, or destroyed

The point of card packs is not to buy them in order to hit a jackpot. The point of card packs is to acquire additional materials for a superior deck.

Don't want to "gamble" on card packs? You can freely purchase any card you want off amazon or ebay if for whatever reason you seek to acquire cards for collecting and not for playing OR buy a pre made deck of your favorite pokemon types and characters.

Loot Boxes besides the Valve Market system as far as I know
can't resell
can't trade
can't purchase exactly what you want, you have to roll for it
can only be used or destroyed, no refunds

and

boxes and crates are sometimes spammed at you, inticing you to purchase keys/unlocks

James King
James King

Numerous schools banned TCG's for gambling reasons

My Elementary school/High schools banned everything that wasn't a school textbook/materials because everyone is there to "learn"

Brody Cook
Brody Cook

The only thing you're wrong in, is replying seriously to a bait thread.

Leo Adams
Leo Adams

TCG's have a lot bigger issues then their pull ratios

Benjamin Campbell
Benjamin Campbell

I play MTG and opening packs is definitely gambling, especially the last sets that basically had lottery cards that were super rare and could go between a few dozens dollars to hundreds and you can find many youtube channels talking about sets and the expected return you can make over buying a box of X or Y set and selling the cards you find and how much profit (or loss)you can make from it, it's just that there's a legal loophole since it's the secondary market that attributes value to the cards while WOTC/hasbro distances themselves from it and do not acknowledge that their cardboard has different value from each other.

tl;dr, TCGs should also be regulated.

Nathan Phillips
Nathan Phillips

Well, a couple of asides:

If you're trying to collect a whole set, unless a full set is unusually cheap for whatever reason, it's usually cheaper to collect the majority with a booster box and opening them up. At least, in my experience.

When you have most of the set and only need select rares, then opening up packs is basically a random chance at a single card. The other 9 cards won't matter since you already have all those.

With the new "mythic rares" which most card games are doing now, it practically is a jackpot situation. Pulling out a mythic rare means you'll be getting a $50+ card, possibly $100+. On the other hand, there is not even a guarantee that a full booster box will have one, so it is a bit of a gamble.

And yes, all true about loot boxes.

Jayden Reed
Jayden Reed

You knew it was coming though, and Bladefly is probably next.

Gavin Sanders
Gavin Sanders

Sure, that's why competitive games that have no gambling have completely friendly communities. Fuckhead.

People are the problem, not cards or games.

Brody Miller
Brody Miller

The cards themselves are a product, and the randomness is mitigated by the fact that they guarantee you 1 Rare, 1 Holographic, x amount of Uncommons and x amount of Commons.

Loot boxes aren't regulated by anyone except for the greedy cunt developers and publishers whose cock you love to suck on.

John Phillips
John Phillips

They can ward off gambling charges by adding a pity timer, much like card games have a "get at least 1 (max rarity) card per booster box" clause on the box. This lets them set a price floor for said items as well.

Dylan Rogers
Dylan Rogers

Oh fug so that's where all my cards went!

Ian Williams
Ian Williams

_ ____ __ ____ ____ _______

Tyler Collins
Tyler Collins

The main difference here being the value of the cards is essentially in the hands of the player. If you don't have what you need to play a real game you can still, among friends, produce a derivative of the main game where you can still have fun without the necessary pieces.

In a game, the rules are predetermined and are absolute. There is no way to change or interpret them so that you could enjoy the game if you did not have the necessary pieces.

In summary, booster packs you are buying a piece of paper. This paper comes with a premise - but is ultimately just cardboard. It is agreed the premise behind it gives it value, which is the justification for its cost, but this premise is malleable and foundationary, not mandate. Loot crates you are solely purchasing the premise, that there is no material or definite good (where as a booster pack is a material good, and say, a digital download of a game is a definite good) and the premise is absolute and mandatory.

Comparing two semantically different things

Jack Reyes
Jack Reyes

Has there been a digital TCG where you can actually trade cards?

Ryan Rivera
Ryan Rivera

PTCGO has a public & private trading system. Also whenever you buy a physical pack or collection you get a code for a copy in the online version.

Brody Bailey
Brody Bailey

Not buying booster trucks

Jonathan Roberts
Jonathan Roberts

Oh sweet. Is it on Steam? I can't find it.

Ian Mitchell
Ian Mitchell

no, its a download from the pokemon website & need a pokemon account

Samuel Sullivan
Samuel Sullivan

ummmm..... mtgo?

Aiden Robinson
Aiden Robinson

Can't do that for 99.9% of digital goods. If every digital good or digital card game was on Steam and used Steam trading and inventory, then I don't think it'd be so decrepit of a situation

Connor Edwards
Connor Edwards

Yes, that sounds reasonable. It's pretty clearly gambling - the issue of one of the scale of exploitation, and video game lootboxes are constantly pushing the envelope as far as that goes. You offer people the chance to get rewarded randomly in exchange for money? Guess what, that's gambling and gambling has regulations.

Jacob Howard
Jacob Howard

Odds are published
Guaranteed rares every pack
Still accumulate value over time
Can be traded, used
It's own isolated game
No base fee of 79.99$ plus tip before being able to buy the packs
Was it's own game on these terms

Please don't tell me you're this retarded, user. Please tell me you need the (you)s to replace the love your mother never gave you.

Ryder White
Ryder White

m-muh false equivalency
They're physical cards you own in the most literal sense of that word. Their value also changes over time and you can sell them for a profit if you so desire. None of that applies to a flipping of bits and bytes on a remote server that can and will be shut down at any time.

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