>Fifth Generation, 146 million units sold >Sega Saturn, 9 million units >PlayStation, 102 million units >Nintendo64, 33 million units >3DO, 2 million units
>Sixth Generation, 210 million units sold >Dreamcast, 9 million units >PlayStation2, 155 million units >GameCube, 22 million units >Xbox, 24 million units
>Seventh Generation, 272 million units sold >PS3, 86 million units >Xbox 360, 85 million units >Wii, 101 million units
>Eight Generation, 113 million units >PS4, 63 million units >Xbox one, 30 million units >Wii U, 14 million units >Switch, 5 million units
>comparing lifetime sales to a generation that isn't even over yet
Joshua Williams
Video games are getting worse
Evan Nguyen
How is the Switch not an eight generation console? This current gaming generation isn't over.
Leo Diaz
Shovelware migrated to phones.
Zachary Ortiz
PCs are now easier to use Smartphones are more powerful Consoles are now complicated to use
Henry Carter
This.
Shit like the PS3 has been around for a decade while its successor has only been around for a few years. The Switch was released barely 6 months ago.
OP is a dumb dumb
Caleb Cooper
Looks like 8th gen is going to end around the same as 6th gen tho
Asher Watson
>triggered nintodler
Daniel Allen
>Consoles are now complicated to use
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Joseph Morales
>Nintendo64, 33 million units >GameCube, 22 million units >Wii U, 14 million units >Switch, 5 million units Why do Nintendos home consoles sell like shit?
Kevin Mitchell
This pretty much sums it up, although consoles nowadays also have less noteworthy exclusives due to more and more games coming to the PC.
Anthony Clark
Probably more than that. Loads of people including myself are still playing on 7th gen consoles because there isn't paid online, the online community is active, and games are still released on it. We haven't bought a new console yet.
Jacob Watson
Because the Switch was released 6 months ago?
Kevin Howard
>Nintendo has 2 consoles in the same generation
Elijah Rodriguez
Despite the obvious being Gen 8 isn't over. Japanese care less about consoles then they did 5+ years ago.
Connor Ward
It's Nintendo's next console, it's 9th gen.
No one said Dreamcast was 5th gen because it released in 1999 and 5th gen wasn't over yet. >inb4 hardware It's simply defined by when the machine is released.
Daniel King
And also Smart Phones and a lot more people are noticing that PC has all the games they want with better customization.
Asher Sanders
PCs are complicated to use
Jace Powell
PS4 is the only one that'll keep selling, totals for 8th gen will still be way down.
Are you retarded? Unless the PS4 sells 200 million units by itself, this is not happening.
Josiah Bailey
why would anyone want a console when a PC has:
-biggest game library by far -better graphics -better framerate -cheaper games -100's of free games -better controls + more control options -mods -more user content (maps, skins, etc) -free online MP -upgradeable -backwards compatibility
Wyatt Hernandez
>PCs are complicated to use
Chase James
>It's Nintendo's next console, it's 9th gen.
Nintendo releases a different console every other week though
That's a very Nintendo thing to do.
It released the Virtua Boy during the ass-end of the SNES' life and just before the N64 was released.
consoles generations are like "dog years" with Nintendo. They're like up to 30th generation now.
Nicholas King
6th was inflated by 100 million people who bought a PS2 as a DVD player 7th was inflated by 100 million soccer moms who bought a Wii as an exercise machine
James Garcia
>ps4 is on pace to outsell the ps3 >xbox one is the most profitable microsoft console >switch is already on pace to outsell the wii u >b-b-b-but console gaming is dying guise!!!!! kek
Robert Hernandez
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Cooper Sullivan
what about the ps1?
Jaxson Murphy
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Carson Roberts
>900 million games sold >Attach rate of 8.89 >Best year for hardware sales was 2009 >HURR DURR soccer moms, it was a fad! Your ignorance is showing.
Ryder Foster
we dont know the final sales numbers for ps3 or 360
Dominic White
Loads of kids bought them as a CD player and shitty home music system.
Carson Smith
>an equal mix of autistic assholes and game developers on either sides
I don't know how I should feel about this
Charles Wood
Did you even look at individual numbers? The only gen you posted with comparable numbers is 7th where everyone was 80-100m. The two gens previous were VASTLY majority Sony sales, especially the 6th gen where it makes up practically 75% of ALL SALES. This gen isn't over and will do fine, except for WiiU. Switch belongs in a different gen that will include the successor to the PS4/Xbone.
Evan Stewart
Wow nice exaggerated story! He invented a new computer!
Nolan Sanchez
>This. >Shit like the PS3 has been around for a decade while its successor has only been around for a few years. The Switch was released barely 6 months ago. >OP is a dumb dumb
This should really be said again and again because other idiots in this thread are just going "durrrr uhhmmmmm maybe phon gaems steal da consoles????"
Grayson Turner
There is nothing more reddit than a PC mastard race gaymer.
Eli Wood
>900 million games sold >"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""games"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Bentley Ramirez
tfw people bought PS3 for blu-ray since blu-ray players were at least $700-1000+ back in 06-07.
Chase Baker
To be fair it was a fantastic BR player at the time that could update the firmware.
Austin Hill
Because the goyim love my platform OP. Mmmm I could just bury myself in all of this skins and crates money, oh and my cocaine, cant die without all these tons of fine south American cocaine.
Charles Thomas
The Wii U has already been discontinued and isn't being sold anymore.
The Xbone is dead in the water, I'd be genuinely surprised if it's anywhere near the 30 million figure floating around, as MS stopped telling its investors how many units have actually been sold years ago.
The PS4 is the only one doing well. So unless it manages to sell another 100 million units by itself, and I don't think that's likely as it's been trending below PS2 and Wii and I do not think 8th gen is going to stick around for a decade like 7th, 8th gen is going to finish with a much lower total than 5th, 6th, or 7th gen did.
You don't have to wait for the generation to be over completely before drawing some baseline conclusions based on past and current trends and sales. Competition from other deices and a slow trickling away of customers brought in during 6th and 7th gen is also not helping.
Charles Smith
>xbox one is the most profitable microsoft console Literally no MS console has been profitable.
Isaiah Reed
You forgot >only way to get around using disgusting digital distribution services such as Steam is to pirate I mean, I don't really mind in the end since I save hundreds of dollars pirating, but I'm willing to pay for games that get a proper release. Steam and the people who let them grow so big are the cancer that started most of the problems in gaming today.
Nicholas Ramirez
1) the PS2 didn't sell 155 million 2) this gen isn't over yet.
Not that I think this gen will sell as much as the others, but still. Fuck off OP.
Luke Ross
But most the most sold Wii "games" were family party "games" like Wii Sports, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit, Wii party etc.
Because that shit was always bundled in with the console. Hard to get "true" software sales for popular titles that get bundled so often.
Nathan Hill
No, it actually didn't. You can post that wikipedia article all you want but not even Sony said it sold 155 million. They said they shipped 150 million consoles total right before they stopped supporting the console entirely. There's no source from Sony saying the console sold 155 units and you can't sell more units than you ship.
Ian Butler
>T-t-these games don't count!
Justin Thomas
I like how in that article there are 1) no numbers at all and 2) a lie about investment into first party titles for the Xbone. Really makes you trust their claims.
Justin Fisher
Better update those numbers, OP
Jayden Young
They count less than dudebro EU Fifa players everyone likes to shit on here for damn sure.
Justin Scott
bundled sales only count for Nintendo games
Jordan Cruz
Microsoft doesn't personally release sales info, and they can't lie about the brand bring profitable because that's illegal and they can get caught easily with that by looking at their financial reports. They just talk about how much money it makes them and it makes them money. There also aren't any lies about first party titles because it was a recent article saying that they were going to ramp up their first party investments for the future. Did you not actually read the article?
Dylan Sullivan
Nothing new has been done in video games for a long long time. No one wants to pay $60 for a fraction of cod or battlefield #403 anymore.
Samuel Parker
modern vidya gaems r disgraceful.
Asher Perez
Fake news, Sony said they EXPECT to sell 78 million by the end of the year. There's no source on the PS4 selling 78 million.
Evan Evans
No, they don't. They're all games. They all count. >b-b-but BUNDLES! FIFA was bundled. TLOU was bundled. Halo was bundled. Uncharted was bundled. The only game this argument actually works for is Wii sports, but even then the sequel sold over 30m by itself.
Joseph Howard
VR says hello
Parker Torres
>Phil Spencer stated an intent to invest in first-party exclusive games to accelerate Xbox adoption, including the announcement of the "next big hits" at E3 in June.
June has been here and gone. What exclusive first party titles did they announce at E3? Literally everything they showed is on PC.
Liam Johnson
If you think the VR fad is something new then you're too young to be in this conversation.
William Stewart
Agreed. The PS4 has outperformed Sony's expectations at every turn. Probably closer to 80m.
Cameron Scott
So I guess these games don't count either?
Aiden Adams
People grew up and have no real job, money, or kids so nobody is buying these things anymore except manchildren.
Jace Martin
people still think the ps3 outsold the 360? kek
Noah Bell
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Lucas Russell
>Are you retarded? Unless the PS4 sells 200 million units by itself, this is not happening Are YOU retarded? The Xbone is already outperforming the original Xbox and the combination of the WiiU/Switch will push it towards the 6th gen target. You fucking moron.
Thomas Green
Jeeze, look at these bundles, guess these games don't count!
Jose Williams
>The Xbone is already outperforming the original Xbox Old news, same with the PS4 outselling the PS2. That stopped being true years ago.
Chase Martinez
bundled sales dont count cause people buy them for the console
Brandon Robinson
I think people underestimate how much some of the consoles were marketed as dvd and bluray players.
I mean my dad still has a ps3 he bought for bluray as well as every kid on my block had a ps2 in the living room for a dvd player.
Meh.
John Richardson
Source
Landon Cook
>The Xbone is already outperforming the original Xbox MS stopped giving out numbers years ago, and the original XB only sold 24m units in four years.
Switch is 9th gen.
Christopher Robinson
>MS stopped giving out numbers years ago, and the original XB only sold 24m units in four years And the Xbone was last reported at 26mil in 2016, with 3 years on the market. Yep, retarded.
Dominic Lopez
switch is handheld gen, not console. Nintendo left the console race.
Aiden Allen
this.
Isaac Gray
It's not dying. Those sales numbers are higher with older gen consoles because more people can afford them (e.g 3rd worlders) as time goes on. While you may have just bought a PS4 Pro, some nigger in Colombia buying a brand new PS3 off the shelf.
Liam Wilson
Its not outpacing either the Wii or PS2 unless its somehow sold 20m+ units between June and now.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_sales The Wii sold 85m units by the end of 2010, after four years on the market. PS4 is at 60-something as of June, and it'll be four years old next month.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_sales The PS2 sold 82m units by the end of 2004, after four years on the western market. Japan bought about 3.5m between March and November 2000, so you can subtract that if you'd like.
Jason Fisher
I'd agree with you since they are moving all their handheld IPs over to the Switch but they are also lobbying for a ton of AAA multiplat support.
Bentley Roberts
What part of >MS stopped giving out numbers years ago Do you not understand? any Xbone numbers we have are literally made up. EA and Gamestop estimated it was actually only at around 16m sold when we were seeing 23m shipped figures. It's likely no where near 30m sold-through to customers.
Luis Gray
You're actually supposed to prove that it's still true, since you're the first one to say it. The Xbox 360 sold over 30 million in a similar time frame, what are the Xbone sales figures for comparison?
most of "normal" people aren't interested anymore in videogames as a hobby with a dedicated machine, crappy smartphone games are enough for people that, if lived at the same age in 1998, would have bought a Playstation
And of course People got many options to play and they often go for the cheapest one.
John Martin
Doesn't really apply this time, PS4 is available in lots of territories that had previously not seen current hardware releases. The PS2 kept selling and selling and selling because it was brought to those markets that didn't have it before, the PS4 was already there from the start, it doesn't have anywhere to expand to.
Landon Phillips
>My first day on Sup Forums
Christopher Bell
Its 9th gen, get over it.
Easton Walker
switch is 8th gen retard
Michael Martinez
It is by definition not.
Anthony Davis
>hasn't factored in price as a factor >even though the drop to $199 was a huge factor in boosting PS2 sales Sounds like your logic is incomplete.
Ryan Jackson
It was 78 shipped by the end of the FY
Luis Flores
Fiscal year, aka next June?
William Taylor
yup switch is definitely 8th gen.
Owen Jones
Playroom has over 60 million copies sold then. Round about there yeah
Noah Sullivan
VR wasn't real VR back then retard
Jayden Hernandez
This, I still see people buying XBox 360 while there's no PS3 anywhere
Dominic Brown
>>Seventh Generation, 272 million units sold >>Wii, 101 million units You need to fix this up to get a clear picture. Tons of Wii customers were blue ocean, EXACTLY BECAUSE it's dying.
Nintendo figured this out 12+ years ago.
Josiah King
>purposely excluding the Wii That being said the Wii U sold like shit because of god awful marketing and no real system sellers like the Wii , N64 and Gamecube had.
Jace Hernandez
>But current VR is totally real VR No. It's a crappy gimmick. Nothing more. >oh look, tons of people are literally puking their guts out >oh look, motion gaming!!! nvm that we the "hardcore" gamers hated it on Wii >oh look, yes you can't move around but who cares about moving around in a game It's a shitty useless restrictive gimmick.
You know Wiimote gave us tons of games, that weren't possible on home consoles before. Perfect controls in Metroid Prime. VR gave us nothing of value. 3D is gone. And VR will be gone in a few years again as well.
Easton Scott
They said that in 2011, Sony discounted it at the end of 2012.