Are you looking forward to Kirby Star Allies?
Are you looking forward to Kirby Star Allies?
Dedede got a Launchpad Mcquack thing going on
I'd rather have them move onto the ambition of a true 3D Kirby game. I'm looking forward to it but I don't know why they bothered to bring Kirby GC back from the dead, everyone was fine with it becoming RtDL
what the fuck am I looking at
I tried googling it but all I found was this tremendous faggot http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/poll-is-kirby-the-worst-nintendo-character.454916330/
the ambition of a true 3D Kirby game.
Kirby doesn't need to be ruined.
worth the risk, besides kirby does weird spinoffs all the time, they can keep trying till they get it right and do 2d ones in tandem too
absolutely fucking terrifying
I hope they use the ally mechanic to give us a Waddle Dee EX mode. Which is being forced into a party of 3 with Doo, Parasol Dee, and Spear Dee
What the fuck am I looking at?
could combine powers in only ONE game and it was cool as shit and everyone loved it
hasnt touched upon the concept since
Absolutely not worth the risk. Kirby works the way he is.
What the fuck I thought this was shopped.
Is this a reference to something?
3D platformer under a hugely recognizable IP owned by NINTENDO
Kirby deserves a Z-axis
why are you so stern on this position i dont get it
3D platformer under a hugely recognizable IP owned by NINTENDO
Every single Nintendo IP that started out 2D has been ruined by 3D with the sole exceptions being F-Zero and Mario Kart.
K64 powers suck, they are a much lamer version of the DL2 and DL3 friends powers. The mechanic in Allies looks more like Squeak Squad's approach to combination
I too prefer Kirvy games when they're exactly the same as the ones that came out 6 years ago.
Forget bringing something new to the table. Just reuse the same ideas over and over again. I'm sure that won't get old.
Forget bringing something new to the table.
Except for the fact that every game has brought something new to the table.
Metroid Prime trilogy
Did you not watch the trailer for Star Allies?
can someone explain what the fuck they actually meant by this
have patience my son
the Blowout Blast engine will soon see a true 3D kirby game
Are you looking forward to Kirby Star Allies?
Kinda. First HD regular Kirby game and it looks really nice, but I don't really see the utility in the ally mechanic. What's it going to do other than further trivialize enemy encounters or basic "you need 1/2/3 allies to get this chest" type stuff? Hoping to be pleasantly surprised but not really expecting to be to be honest.
I don't really like the computer player shit. I just want to play as solo Kirby with optional co-op. Computer player was stupid in Superstar too, not just being a nostalgiafag here.
I just want to play as solo Kirby with optional co-op.
Then do it?
Multiplayer was always optional in every Kirby game.
But the computer player stuff was optional in Super star.
I hope it doesnt always have the arrow on the ground. Has anyone played Battle Royale? That seemed like a more full 3D Kirby game in some footage, but I'm not really sure if that represents the whole game or not.
Seems to be a big part of it this time since you can combine abilities and shit. It would be alright if it was just that and they attacked along with my attacks or something, but I hated the way the AI acted retarded and just did whatever in Superstar. It's the reason I never bought Final Fantasy 13 also. Computer players in a game that doesn't need them just kinda irks me. We'll see though. I still love Kirby so there's a fantastic chance I'm getting this game anyway.
Seems to be a big part of it this time since you can combine abilities and shit.
It's not the first game to have ability combos user.
It's the first one I'd be playing though.
What made me love Superstar is that it was the first co-op game I ever played. With two players, it was a masterpiece, but saw no value in having them controlled by a computer. Now that I'm 27 and don't have access to three friends who would be interested in coming over and playing Kirby or huddling around a small Switch screen to do so, I have a feeling the bots are gonna bother me. If it had online, which it won't, I would buy five copies.
what is this pinky thing?
Nah they're playing it too safe, I think I'll get Yoshi and Fire Emblem Switch. I'm not bothering with Kirby until HAL show some real innovation.
user, that's literally what they're doing. They just did two 3D Kirby attempts in figuring things out. Star Allies is the 2D one in tandem with those.
As I said, every 2D Nintendo franchise that went 3D was ruined by 3D with the exception of Mario Kart and F-Zero, and those are debatable as well.
It looks like New Super Mario Bros. syndrome, honestly. I want a Super Kirby Galaxy or Super Kirby Odyssey. I'm not implying it needs to be a 3D game, but it needs to be something that looks more interesting.
I researched OPs picture a bit, and seems there's a line of gachapon figures in Japan, the concept of which is that they have really big chins.
And now it's getting Kirby characters
I'm not implying it needs to be a 3D game
It probably should be though.
well good i look forward to seeing their next 3d iteration
I have a feeling the bots are gonna bother me.
Then don't use them.
It could work, not implying it shouldn't be either. They would need to make it face paced with the trick jumps and shit like Mario has though, or make the abilities fucking awesome in 3D.
ah yes, partners and combining abilities, what fresh mechanics that we've never before seen in a kirby game
the game is named after them, it's pretty easy to conclude that you will need to use them. and if not then what are they there for ?
Last one I played was RtDL. The new one looks like more of the same, based on what I've seen of it.
Not really. It's sad that in a time that the rest of Nintendo seems to be on fire refreshing their IPs to catch the public's excitement and eye, HAL just falls back onto the exact same formula they've been using for 7 years.
Funny enough I always thought it was HAL who would make a move before the Mario or Zelda team did, but they seemed to have fallen into the same rut Gamefreak is in, albeit they actually know how to make a game. The game doesn't tank to single digit FPS every time Kirby sucks up an enemy and transforms.
HAL just falls back onto the exact same formula they've been using for 7 years.
I'd say it's more like 20 years.
id seriously recommend planet robobot, its got very similar gameplay but the gimmick of the robobot armor is a lot more fluid and fun than shit like hypernova
Eh, I think Return to Dreamland was a clear evolution. It brought the whole series full circle.
Triple Deluxe was fine but pushing it, and Planet Robobot came out fast and had a nice fun enough gimmick to let it slide by. Afterwards, they really needed something new. the gimmick of the game is just the return of partners, something that has already popped up multiple times in the series.
At least with Robobot people looked and said "Oh cool robots". With Star Allies people don't say "Oh cool partners", they say "It looks exactly like Return to Dreamland".
that crocodile is like a poor man's uragaan figurine
I'm honestly not. This game looks like nothing worth buying a Switch for. I'll get it when you can pirate Switch games. It's Return to Dreamland 4. More of the same with a gimmick I'm not convinced with. People kept saying it's 64 tier ability mixing but it looks more like Squeak Squad. Tell when you can mix Archer + Hammer, Whip + Sword and Ice + Fire instead of FIRE SWORD, THUNDER WHIP, and ELEMENT WEAPON.
seems pretty cool, in other news I finally got Robobot for a sweet $25 after completing Triple Deluxe last week, can't wait to play it
What's even the target audience for this stuff
Have fun, user. Robobot is pretty good.
gachapon machines sell everything
What the hell?
they look okay with animals, with Kirby it looks insane but hilarious
I cannot comprehend this new dimension of chins.
metaknight's chin mask
"Hey kids, here's your favorite characters, except now they have gigantic chins, and there's no normal version!"
I dunno I think kid me would've thrown a shitfit and adult me would think it was a bootleg.
Give me a reason to look forward to it. As far as I can tell, it’s another blatant Kirby rehash.
Is this Legend of the Strongest Poyo Kirby?
Surprisingly, no. I'm not sure what it is about it, but it still hasen't really grabbed my interest.
I REALLY hope they retire the Return to Dreamland strategy after this game, they've peaked what they can do with it
Blowout Blast would be a pretty shitty and limited template, honestly. They need to start from scratch with a home console in mind.
You say that but you should remember that shit like Yokai Watch exist. Big chins are pretty tame compared to farting ghosts made for kids.
Is the All-Star Ally fascist Italy?
Is Kirby a metaphor for WWII Japan?
they made Meta Knight's eyes yellow in robobot
did they ever explain why?
it's pretty easy to conclude that you will need to use them.
I think it was simply "we just thought the yellow looked better on a 3D model"
New Super Mario Bros. syndrome
yup, that's the perfect way to describe it, and we're currently on NSMB2 phase
maybe a 2D - 3D middle ground could be reached?
kirby64 style level design pleeeease
The director just "thought it looked better", but it was probably just because he wanted complete homogeneity and consistency, so it was as obvious and recognizable as possible that it was indeed Meta Knight. Remember he wasn't wearing his normal mask. It's a shame, because I liked the white eyes, it added a bit more mystery to the character and added a bit more magic to his mask.
You're going to really enjoy Robobot, especially after Triple Deluxe.
how about, the regular levels being 2.5D and they Hypernova / Ultra Abilities / Robobot stage gimmick could be full 3D platforming, but I don't think anybody would be able to make that work without messing it up 3D Sonic style, so meh
I don't see how you can see Return to Dram Land as an evolution, what exactly evolved? It has the same formula as Adventure, the same gameplay as Super Star, even simpler multiplayer than Super Star had, and lacks a lot of the good features games like 64 and Squeak Squad had. The most it does is ass 2 more players than Super Star and DL3 had, and add those gimmick super abilities.
I guess they mean how the RtDL game are more story based and the end level "fuck you" powers? beats me
i thought this said shekkel planet 3
Kirby needs to mix it up. I'm sick of Return to Dreamland being modded and edited into 'new' games. I'm still waiting for the Kirby GCN game we still didn't get (That Switch game isn't cutting it).
guys Return to Dreamland is TOTALLY Kirby GCN!
Clean Kirby with a real moveset will never be a thing
its coming back in star allies
what i'm wondering is how this game got stuck in development hell, and why they never attempted to make a similar game afterwards, it looked perfect
Is there something particular that GCN Kirby had that these other games don't, that I'm not seeing? Why do people want this so bad when it'd just play like what we already have lately or that Star Allies isn't covering?
idk to me it looks like it lacks vision/direction. i bet they never were able to get it to a satisfying place.
Well shit. I've been under a rock then. Never mind I haven't followed Star Allies very much.
Look at the environments. Realistic rather than that pastel nightmare we ended up with and you'd have multiplayer support with all helpers and potentially all helpers being playable by default vs. just Kirby being playable and the other players getting to play as the interesting characters.
thank you! I just need to complete the last 2 sections of Dedede tour then it's straight to Robobot
aaaaah why'd Kirby have to devolve into blocky mess it is now, also a more muted color pallet would have been great
virgin circle vs. chad chin chom edit when?
just a few millimeters of bone
crap this just made me want one
to me star allies looks like it's gonna be great
only thing I don't like so far is Clean's new moveset because thus far it's looking like it's only going to serve as a giant KDL3 reference with no actual new moves
can I get one outside of Gatchashit?
I can't wait to see what they next SUUPER SECRET CODE IN THE WORLD NAMES is
oh, well that's just disappointing, I guess I can see it though, maybe they could remedy it by making them a deep silver rather than pure white like before
Dark Matter's description in PR says that his true form hasn't yet revealed itself
A dark force is posessing everyone in dreamland
Animal friends actually appearing (as moveset fodder, but still)
It's so fucking obvious that Dark Matter is back. I can't wait for all callbacks to Shimmy's trilogy to be shallow references like a meh 02 recolor as the final boss.
Chu, Peck, and Nago are now forever trapped as moveset fodder
How does this make you feel?
Oh jesus, user
Clean's coming back in a BIG way
All of it's moves use the animal partners in some way.
i'm okay with Dark Matter coming back, but it would be best if Zero's story was finished and he never came back
State the truth
youngfags act like 3D Mario is anything like 2D Mario and discard your opinion as a troll.
It's okay user, I know you're right too.
3 Worst friends are relegated to cameos?
I'm ok with this.
Now, we need the 3 best friends to be playable characters in a Kirby RPG, and we'll be set.
Zero only appeared twice though
Awful. Another bullshit "It's all your favorites in one" shtick video games like to do nowadays. This is the perfect cast for Kirby (Gooey too) and now we only get Kirby, Edgeknight, Dedede and Mook in a bandana.
But user we need le epic dbz battle kirby is le infinite powerlevel god of chaos.
Aren't you hyped for all the lets players that'll intentionally scream their heads off when they see 03 despite never playing Kirby 64?
He doesn't like B.Dee
He's basically just a more permanent version of 64 Dee.
just glad they aren't dead and forgotten like Ado/Adeleine
Dark Matter is literally a part of Zero. If DM's back, Zero's still alive in some capacity.
I actually don't expect Zero to make a full entrance back into the series until after Kumazaki is replaced. Nothing in the series since then has quite reached the nightmare fuel level that is Zero - he's about on par with Giygas, and Kumazaki has shown no interest in making the series quite that dark. Even Planet Robobot's ending doesn't match up with Zero's origin story.
Clean's moveset is just kirby and the animal friend's DL3 clean attacks in one moveset
Aren't you hyped for all the lets players that'll intentionally scream their heads off when they see 03 despite never playing Kirby 64?
zero is le horrifying cosmic horror meme
He was a giant sperm with a bandaid
Shall I post that one analysis an user from a past thread posted? It was pretty cool.
Just like Giygas was a floating fetus that cried a lot, right?
Can someone give me a rundown?
I don't like 2D Kirby, will I like 3D?
stop belittling kirby surreal spook endings, those are the best kirby staple
Yes. Are we pretending that fucking Earthbound is whoa so creepy now?
I think it looks fantastic. I don't have a big issue with the modern setup of the series, and Star Allies looks like the most mechanic-heavy of the 4 main RtD-era Kirby games. All it needs is a good ability lineup and good ways to incorporate the ability mixing, and it'll be a fantastic entry. Comparisons to Pokemon or New Super Mario Bros I think aren't fair; each of RtD, TD, and PR have a lot of unique charm to them between abilities, mechanics, environments, and even story that differentiate each from the others despite the shared "Super Star gameplay with one main game and Helpers replaced with [Mechanic]" style, although TD also introduced Smash-style evasive options that I think add a lot to the game's bosses; you really feel it playing Team Kirby Clash Deluxe too, since that game is 100% bosses.
I do think switching things up will do the franchise well, but I also think a mainline Kirby game in this style early in the Switch's life with a new variety coming out later on isn't a bad way to go about it since RtD was the last main console Kirby.
These Shakurel gatchas or whatever are fucking hilarious though. I actually really want the Dedede and Whispy.
You never played Mother 1, did you?
and 2 is the magic number for Kirby villains
don't even jinx it, if Zero came back
hopefully he'd be behind 100% completion again
If DM's back, Zero's still alive in some capacity.
true true, doesn't mean they couldn't just say he backed off and let his mooks do shit without him though
not him but I'd like to see that
Zero's origin story
fucking what now?
First is that Sakurai, although the original 'creator', was not the one who actually truly defined the setting. In fact, Kirby is more of a multi-creators creation, with Miyamoto having quite a bit of a hand in the creation of the character. The one who truly defined the setting though was Shimomura, who took over the games when Sakurai lost interest (which was *very* early ; after Kirby Adventure, the second game in the serie). Sakurai then worked on side-games only (Super Star was originally a side-game, not a main game).
The big problem is that after Kirby 64 and Kirby Nightmare in Dreamland, Shimomura died in a car accident*, leaving the serie without a 'head'. Shimomura was the one who created most of the cast, introduced Zero and the Dark Matters, defined the light/dark contrast of the setting, and gave basic characterization to the characters (likewise, notice the contrast between the self-aware borderline parody-like portrayal of Kirby in the early Sakurai games and his portrayal in, say, Dreamland 3).
*Supposedly this isn't true.
Still better than Funko pops.
After he died, the serie was thrown into the hands of random companies who then decided to copy and emulate the most popular entry in the serie instead of actually using the setting. This meant emulating Super Star... despite Super Star being extremely simplified and personality-less compared to the main games. And this led to the big crash in creativity in the serie as every game became an emulation of Super Star (notice Kirby stopped evolving once Shimomura died ; it took them 6+ games to even update Kirby's sprites).
A big part of the changes is that with Shimomura gone, the Dark Matters were mostly relegated to the background while Zero was watered down ; her symbolism (with the blood) was removed and she was given a bunch of 'semi' appearances through the serie. Likewise, instead of using the full cast of characters, the cast was reduced to just Kirby and Meta Knight (with Dedede thrown in) and the setting was reduced from Pop Star and the solar system to just Dreamland again.
The big question is where in the fuck is Nightmare?
He's the one that's been summoning all the boss souls during the True Arenas or final boss areas. There's a reason they all follow his distinct color pallet and star pattern.
And why wasn't he or Star Dream able to actually clone/resummon Dark Matter properly?
Kirby needs to do something other than the Return to Dreamland artstyle or I might get tired of it like NSMB
I like fusing abilities though so ima put that aside for now
i wouldnt mind a more direct nightmare game where kirby is more directly saving dreams from nightmares. would anybody else be into that or should it just be a vague theme?
Zero was scary, Zero Two was just too goofy to take seriously, like what was that tail thingy even supposed to be
With Kirby Super Star Ultra, Kirby Mass Attack, and Kirby Return to Dreamland, it appears that the serie finally got a new permanent dev team at the helm and is starting to reverse the decay that begun in the GBA period. But the franchise is unfortunately still very heavily 'Super Star-ized' and stuck in the past, as you mentionned with Magolor (and also with how the abilities copy the insanely game-breaking and flashy Super Star ones instead of going for the more original and situational combos and mechanics of past main games).
Frankly, I know that many like Super Star for being fast-paced and really flashy but I always found it to be quite shallow in terms of gameplay and rather personality-less. I find myself prefering vastly the Shimomura era games and hope the games will revert to trying to expand the setting, atmosphere, and mechanics again instead of aping Super Star endlessly.
They have always had story, though. RtDL didn't even have the level skit cutscenes that 64 had.
The big point and why I liked the Shimomura games is because, although they were still simple plot-wise, there was a very strong emphasis on cuteness vs darkness and light/dark contrasts, with some very nice symbolism regarding Zero. It also help that the games were on the more serious side.
Kirby, as portrayed in the Shimomura games, is a young adult (not a child) and stand up to the various threats to his world because of empathy (and not because he's a "Star Warrior" or some kind of destined hero). Likewise, one primary reason I like Zero so much is that in contrast to other Kirby villains, including Marx, Zero is not merely deeply evil but is so in a serious way not unlike Giygas and Porky from the Mother serie, who are some of the most beloved villains not just among kid-friendly settings but in all of video gaming and with good reason.
We will never get a new kirby as fun as The amazing mirrors
i legitimately liked squeak squad, too easy yes but pretty good
Disappointed that Star Allies isn't like this. A lot of the helpers look ruined with the Kirby Ability hats placed on top, and it doesn't look like there's piggyback/riding on your friends.
good writeup, very biased (that's not inherently bad though everyone is biased)
I'm definitely on the Super Star side in the SS vs. KDL argument but that was still some interesting analysis
any sources for that stuff in the first post?
Well, it kind of just uses what DL3 already had instead of being base broom.
Zero can't feel positive emotion, so he's always lonely and without friends. This doesn't make him mad or sad or anything, he's just always lonely.
Initially, he thought that possession was the same as friendship, and so he had Dark Matter try to possess people during DL2. That didn't work so well and Kirby sent his ass home packing.
During DL3, he tried again, thinking about the same thing. Kirby did a similar thing this time, but instead of using a sword he used the power of positive emotions to hurt Zero, and it hurt Zero a LOT - Zero is physically pained by interacting with positive emotion, but that's not what Zero wants to have happen.
DL64 comes around, Zero knows possession isn't friendship, but he wants to possess everyone so they feel what he feels (which is pretty much nothing), so that he might not be so alone anymore. Same story with Kirby kicking his ass again.
He's not on par with Giegue for fucked-upery, but he's definitely one of the sadder Nintendo villains.
source or its bullshit.
I feel that the sheer horror of how badly Zero outsmarted you and made your entire quest futile in Kirby 64's bad ending is a far bigger punch and a far more effective proof of Zero's cunning than Marx's gloating after football tackling Kirby in front of Nova. The fact that Zero never bother to speak to Kirby and is so extreme in her methods make her far scarier and effective in my opinion as it also, in a way, showcase her contempt for Kirby (as she doesn't even regard him highly enough to bother gloating).
Another example is how Zero responded to Dark Matter's failure in Dreamland 2 by taking up a battleship (the Hyper Zone) and ramming the barrier that Kirby had created at the end of Dreamland 2 before proceeding to basically tear the life out of Pop Star, enslaving everyone and beginning to assimilate the entire planet leaving only tiny pockets of survivors over the planet's surface, the game involving Kirby helping the survivors in each stage and booting out the Dark Matters out of his home, part by part. Despite not saying a word, I felt that Zero's glare at Kirby from inside the Hyper Zone after making a mess out of his homeworld established her in a far more effective way than Yin-Yarn or Marx's gloating, the main point being that while other villains spoke about being evil, Zero simply *is* evil.
About Shimomura? Someone looked him up, really took their time with it and found out he just left HAL afterward. There are a lot of Shinichi Shimomuras out there, so it's unknown if he died or just resigned.
DL2 and DL3 manual.
B O I
I was just looking for this post in the archives.
The original post wasn't an english speaker, and technically O2 is the creator of Dark Matter. It could be genderless/asexual.
The symbolism behind Zero (before she got watered down) was extremely nice too, with her tears of blood representing her infinite, all-consuming hatred of all living things and her white color representing how she is such total darkness that she loop back into 'nothingness'. The very name is significative. And of course, there is her second appearance as a fallen angel, one of the most impressive and iconic bosses in the serie (with a matching battle theme).
All of this while portraying Kirby as genuinely innocent and empathic and with a cast that was definitely geared more toward the friendly, cute side than Meta Knight's rather hit-and-miss emphasis on coolness.
It made for a very interesting and frankly, unique contrast as Zero and the Dark Matters were not merely the villains, they were the outright antithesis of the setting ; there is a reason why the conflict between Kirby and Zero is often compared to Ness's own struggle against Giygas. The contrast is similar, in a way. And it is one that should have been embrassed in my opinion ; most series either choose to be completely cute or completely dark. I found that the contrast made the Kirby serie feel much more unique, fresh, and magical.
Japanese manual to be exact. A lot of backstory got lost in translation.
Anyone got the jap manual then? english KDL 2/3 doesn't have nothing on Zero what so ever.
Is this the designated monthly Kirby Lore thread?
By definition he is asexual, since he creates life on his own, but using English conventions you would still refer to him as a "he" by default.
I find myself really disappointed when games like Squeak Squad and Epic Yawn abandonned this route to go for the generic cute 'for toddlers' atmosphere (Epic Yawn was especially bad, with Yin-Yarn being so incompetent and harmless he has no idea what to do with the lands he conquer). At times, I felt that those games felt like parodies even (especially Squeak Squad and its portrayal of Kirby as a mindless glouton who doesn't even notice anything around him). In short, I wish the serie would be not unlike the Mother serie once more (which I believe anyone should try at least once).
In a way, I guess I'm part of the minority as I prefer the more contrasting, in-depth entries to the faster-paced, simpler 'flashy' entries. But still, I indeed wish they'd realize that Kirby is more than just about being cute and that they'd, if not expand the plot, at least bring back the contrast that used to define it back then.
yeah he kinda does.
I think they're actually from guide books, not the manuals. They're almost impossible to find scans for. Have this from the DL2 guide.
a very nice read so far, also
described my feeling for the Dark Matter trilogy PERFECTLY
Also the 20th Anniversary Japanese only artbook, which is official but who the fuck knows where those scans are
Shimomurafags are autistic and inarticulate by default, but your posts are appreciated.
You reposted something I typed up a few years ago, it's kind of embarrassing. Where have you been saving random Shimomurafag posts?
huh, actually pretty interesting, you have a place where I can read all of this?
Kirby is Ebin.
Jap DL2/3 manuals, along with the Japanese 20th anniversary artbook.
I think he was embellishing the 02 part since we have NO information about him anywhere, but the whole Zero thought friends was possession and is hurt by positive emotion is in the books and evidence by the Love-Love stick.
Waddle Dee Aligns his QPUs.webm
We have scans of that artbook
I'm more interested in getting scans of the 25th anniversary artbook, pic related
ah well I knew about the "hurt by positive emotions part" but the "thought possession was friendship" part is really intriguing to me, makes Zero seem naively cute
You know what? I'm going to take your guy's word for it - Zero's a sad, sad soul.
You were that one guy from DeviantART? It was a really nice write-up, and you showed me the difference between a creator and a director.
oh cool the artbook got scanned maybe I could read I-
there's no way i'm going to be able to make it through the whole thing, maybe when i'm more fluent at jap. . .
Mario made the 3D jump in 1996
Mario Kart made the 3D jump in 1996
Zelda made the 3D jump in 1998
F-Zero made the 3D jump in 1998
Donkey Kong made the 3D jump in 1999
Metroid made the 3D jump in 2002
Kid Icarus made the 3D jump in 2012
Pokemon made the 3D jump in 2013
all new IPs like Animal Crossing, Pikmin, ARMS, and Splatoon have been in 3D
Kirby has gone nowhere
What the fuck Kirby? I don't want Return to Dream Land 4, I want something new.
I love it when things get so fast they start to look slow
i never knew why he did this , and i still dont know
while we're the topic of Dark matter, does anybody remember that one Gooey and Dark Matter Swordsman comic, I remember it being a really good read
Pages relevant to Shimomura games:
the bottom part about Kirby's poses makes me laugh
Shut up user, It's possible for Kirby to go 3D, it just need to take the risk and apply some of its 2D gameplay into 3D.
kirby in a 3D dont sound like a Good idea with the flying and the simple platforming
Here's an english translation (assuming you were asking for it in the first place)
An interesting take.
that part when
Zero abandons DMB to his fate
Hey KARG, are you still around?
Has anyone heard from him lately? Some friends of mine have been playing a lot of Air Ride lately and I was reminded of him. Wasn't he working towards a demo at some point?
there was an english translation the ENTIRE time
and here I was using my 2nd grade nip to brute force through it, why didn't I think to look for a translation
HAL toyed with the idea back when they were trying to make a Gamecube Kirby game.
They've been experimenting with the idea again with 3D Rumble/Blowout Blast (basic gameplay) and Kirby Battle Royale (Copy Abilities), but it remains to be seen if it will ever go beyond spinoff material.
My ideal full 3D Kirby game
No run button, analog movement
-Move the camera wherever you want to
For powers, each unused face button uses different attacks for multi-move abilities to translate to 3D
-Limited flight like 64 and Air Ride
Levels are designed both vertically and horizontally with flight in mind, they should be big playgrounds with plenty to accomplish, branches, and a few "end" points
-Some returning locations. DL1/2/3's, KA's, and SS's locations should be the template of bringing Dream Land to life
KDL3-tier and Epic Yarn-tier side/background characters that behave like NPCs in OoT or Shenmue, to make the word feel alive and to open up side-goal potential. Kirby's world is full of cute characters, it would be nice to have some interaction with them
-Dedede, Meta Knight, and DL1 bosses can be found and fought/interacted with in the game if you know where to look, but focus on new characters and new villains.
Kirby's color scheme changes with certain powers
The original 3 DL2 friends with Kirby's multi-move powers
-Riding Rick grants quicker running, immunity to slippery surfaces, and wall-jumps, but you're a bigger target with less precise attacks
Riding Coo grants maneuverability in the air, and you can go higher and stay in the air longer, but it's harder to master the controls and again you're a bigger target. Slower than Kirby on the ground.
-Kine makes swimming fast and easy, his powers are strong, but he's clumsy and weaker on land. Jumps well enough though
Not a huge amount of copy abilities, avoiding redundant ones, but the ones that are in the game can be leveled up several times as you progress and each power is versatile (kinda like a certain other game)
-Bonus hats/weapons, decorations, color spray cans, and Gooey can be found in treasure chests throughout the game.
Art/atmosphere somewhere between Kirby's Adventure, Kirby's Dream Land 3, and Kirby Super Star
man kirby is always changing in game with the spin-off and theme the regular ganes Look triple D and robobot they are diferent
it just need to take the risk and apply some of its 2D gameplay into 3D.
You mean it needs to take the risk, re-think, and adjust Kirby's conventions for the 3D plain and add more nuance like Mario 64 did for Mario, not do whatever the 3D GCN prototype and Blowout Blast did.
is that one of those cursed images?
If they ever decided to make a full 3D Kirby, I don't know how they'd make it work without the Milky Way Wishes power up system, I don't know why but I feel like inhale would be clunky is a 3 dimensional environment
Ever play Galaxy 2? Kirby's inhale should work like Yoshi's lick.
Not mentioning Rainbow Curse, despite having everything except gameplay going for it.
works well for blowout blast, besides they could add inhale aiming so you can eat things slightly above you.
get ready for the true arena that shit is hard as fuck
ls a pretty fun game
are you that user that played though triple deluxe in that other thread? if so did you complete dedede tour and both arena's?
Waddle Dee turns into Waddle Doo when posessed by Dark Matter
Waddle Doo has one eye and attacks with beams
Kracko makes Waddle Doos
both dark matter and Kracko attack with lightning beams
totally not thinking of this because I saw some Kracko x Dark Matter stuff and was trying to figure out how the two were similar enough for them to be shipped
Kirby is, in my opinion, quite Taoist in essence-- Tao, meaning he embodies many of the traits of the ancient Chinese Way. For example, in his modest appearance, Kirby is small, pink, and always wears a happy face (disregarding American Box-arts). His cute exterior masks his true inner potential and ferocious skills/appetite- much like how a true master of martial arts does not go around starting fights, both paths are the key to a long, happy life. He is an entity composed of opposite energies and can produce the Five Elements: Kirby can be cold as ice, hot as fire, quick as lightning, still as stone, soft as a cloud- or sharp as needles. One of Kirby's most famous skills is the ability to inhale enemies and their attacks, and either copy them, or spit them back out as stars. This technique is certainly very similar to TaiChi, where the opponent's force is used against them. The way Kirby gains abilities can be thought of as the potential each of us has within ourselves- we have the chi to become anything we set our minds to, with proper direction and diligence. Kirby is round and simple- a symbolic representation of the cycle of life and the genuine nature of all things. Kirby has good morals (De), always helping those who come to him in need, and often making friends, going so far as to convert former enemies into friends through pure will and good-character. Finally, both he and Dedede know the value of Wu Wei: despite his fame and power, Kirby prefers to live the lazy lifestyle in the amazingly peaceful Dream Land, where the King rules by doing absolutely nothing. Yes, Kirby's world is full of valuable lessons we can all apply to ourselves, if one is willing to delve deeper than the surface of this subtly philosophical series.
yes I am!
Dark Meta Knight came out of nowhere and I was pleasantly surprised
It made the Super Star gameplay, more noticeably its single ability multiple moveset, a mainstay as opposed to the last new Kirby game that was Squeak Squad. Amazing Mirror and Squeak Squad used the Nightmare in Dreamland engine, which had Kirby lose his ability in one hit and with most copy ability having a single move. Super Star Ultra helped bring back interest in regards to how he was played which was very different compared to the previous titles and Return to Dreamland was an entire new adventure using Super Star's gameplay.
What if Galacta Knight is
Bandana Waddle Dee?
Waddle Doo is a state of enlightenment, all Waddle Dee's have latent powers given to them by their creator and deity Kracko. Some are created to have full access to their abilities from the start of their lives, others are created as Waddle Dees, who are usually lazy and clumsy, but also learn the meaning of hard work and in doing so can accomplish greater feats than their enlightened brothers tend to accomplish.
if you liked that then you'll love the extra mode in robobot, I won't spoil who shows up.
robobots finale is even more hype and absolutely insane.
Make it more about exploration, finding treasures, and fighting enemies using whatever copy ability you like. Like the Great Cave Offensive.
it did what another game did
Really pushing the envelope.
that sound more likeable something like kirbylunker with rolling rock and all
No idea, hopefully we'll get a response from him in about 3-4 months. Usually.
that was really nice
thank you for sharing user
Then again, that other Waddle Doo didn't use laser beams.
It started the trend of merging the Collectible/Macguffin based gameplay of the Shimomoura games with the Super Star-esque gameplay of the Sakurai games
I love this, not many fanarts pay attention to the details in these games, you'd usually see them make Dark Matter's cloak and visor as a transformation, and make his purple ball form his base form.
We'll never have a full on Kirby Smash game
It'll never have Sectonia as a playable character
Kirby won't be able to fully copy the move sets of each playable villain
It sucks, guys.
restating your point will not make it any more valid.
Whoever mains Yin-Yarn can fuck off, playing as Meta Knight against that shitlord is a nightmare.
start up Robobot
10/10 music already
yep, i'm definitely going to enjoy this
I've always loved the word Macguffin
oh hey I remember this! I love reading this every once in a while, it's so gooodd
iirc they've always been yellow
Odyssey should have honestly been a Kirby game, it would make more sense and bring so many new fans in.
You now remember, thanks to Odyssey's costumes, that a Kirby/Starfy crossover Never Ever.
is this the new goldfinger cover?
and adjust Kirby's conventions for the 3D plain and add more nuance like Mario 64 did for Mario
In other words, make Kirby something that isn't Kirby, because SM64 was not Mario.
nah, just look at metaknight's superstar or adventure fight, they're white
found this image while looking for the superstar sprite
Robobot's opening scene
that took me for a loop, everything looked so "realistic" compared to Triple Deluxe's hyper cartoony look
the chin knows
No, it's taking Kirby and making something greater.
So let's discuss this disappointment:
People consider this thing a rogue Dark Matterlet apparently. I say otherwise.
Has a lamer version of Miracle Matter's elemental powers
Named Dark Zero in Japan
Has the colored eyeball, a trait exclusive to Zero and Zero Two (Dark Matter usually has a colored/different iris, but the sclera is still white)
The Japanese guidebook says it has an "unknown connection" to Zero, but says the same about Zero Two
Yeah, compare Castle Dedede there to the castle from Triple Deluxe's intro.
odyssey should have been a Kirby game
that's what i've been thinking, Odyssey and Galaxy could have made great Kirby games
Not Zero's eye, not Zero.
Aaaaaayyyyy Dedede looks pretty tight
I like his theme. Thats all I can say for that loser.
tfw we will never get Air Ride 2
It's time to take my own life desu
worth the risk
No it's not
I still miss Sonic everyday
Dark who again?
I'm guessing that's from one of those awful sprite comics
You, get the fuck out.
Every fucking time, you suggest this.
We want Stafy to grow, not be devoured by Kirby.
Yes, I'm mad.
the disappointment of the family, even when compared to Gooey
Dark Nebula will be the villain of Star Allies. It'll be all about taking what's seen as the lamest and least interesting Kirby villain, and doing something fun with him. Unlike Dark Matter or Zero, Dark Nebula gives those he possesses a purple coloration and a dark aura. The bosses in Star Allies have that. He possesses those bosses because he's not very powerful himself. In the game, we'll see his backstory, characterization, motivation and hints at the relationship he had with a young Dedede.
You must be having me mistaken for another user.
I just saw the opportunity to make that comment and I took it.
Debatable. Ships and such are shes.
why is Kirby such a cute trap?
That Human Dark Matter being one headband away from being a Judgral era FE character
Dunno but he sure puts the other Nintendo crossdressers to shame.
DON'T PLAY STUPID WITH ME NIGGA
YOU ARE THAT SAME user FROM BEFORE
NINTENDO WILL NEVER LET STAFY HAVE ANOTHER GAME AND IF HE CROSSES OVER WITH KIRBY, HE AND HIS ENTIRE CAST WILL BECOME KIRBY SECONDARIES
IT WILL BE PRINCE FLUFF ALL OVER AGAIN BUT WORSE. IF YOU WANT STAFY TO LIVE, KEEP HIM FROM KIRBY, POINT BLANK.
Seriously, Stafy got killed because he out-cuted Kirby in cuteness. HAL wasn't having that.
Dedede actually looks pretty good with a chin.
This actually makes a lot of sense.
Marx better not usurp his moment knowing that helpers are back as well.
Legitimately sorry user. I'm not that guy. I was just making a "joke" (because, in hindsight, it really wasn't that funny) about how "hur Odyssey has costumes, Stafy uses costumes, hur)
AIR RIDE DEV MY 5 WILL SUMMON YOU
GIVE US AN UPDATE
star allies will be about Dark Nebula trying to prove himself because daddy didn't love him
I'm sorry, but you were
I want to see more of that human Dark Matter. Looks interesting that they use human models to make Kirby characters back then, I wonder if they still do it now.
yfw Star Allies makes it all come together by bringing back Zero, Zero Two and Dark Zero for the extra mode/True Arena boss fight and clarifies their relations once and for all.
The mechanic in Allies looks more like Squeak Squad's approach to combination
So, there's no combination?
kirby have even a sex i think is asexual
but seriously what's with everybody's obsession with him, he has 7 minutes of screen time maximum and now everybody loves him
i'm still wondering why I like him as well, his character is whack
Dark Mind being grouped with the other Dark Matters
Do we have any confirmation if they're related in any way other than they just look the same? Same deal with the Master Crown, Necrodeus, and Dark Crafter.
Remember the fiasco with Paper Mario's change in direction? I imagine that with Stafy. No need for two cutesy platformers, right?
Its a half way point
Adding ice when you have rock will function like Kirby 64 and turn you into the curling puck, but adding fire to sword will function like SS and give you a fire sword
But it's more fun to think of him as a trap.
Because it was that memorable, at least for me when I first played it. Both Galactic Nova and Marx's true form looked uncanny and their theme are both hectic and very fast paced. Plus it was the ending of the most popular Kirby game, so that helped as well.
he's my non binary he/him lesbian son uwu
but in all seriousness I believe it's up in the air, I think Sakurai said he's neutral but who gives a fuck about him?
But Squeak Squad's was even lamer. Three elemental swords and something else I might be missing because they were that insignificant.
Even then Buster Sword and Double Lightsaber > Squeak Squad's swords
Nothing directly stated, but it's generally thought to be a mirror version of Zero or Dark Matter. It can arguably be considered an equel of Nightmare's orb form, but Nightmare's orb didn't have an eye or control over anything external (Dark Matter for Zero, Mirrors for Dark Mind)
Shadow Dedede having Dark Matter-Possessed Dedede's abilities and King D-Mind in general from Team Kirby Clash Deluxe both add fuel to the theories
Fair point. I see what you mean now user.
I think, in Japan, he originally had no obvious gender, but (especially now) usually defaults to a boy if need be.
That ad awoke all kinds of things within me.
My ONLY request is that the game gives me a time trail mode where you can play as ANY helper.
It was bullshit that helpers were limited to their own arena instead of having a mode in SSU
You had the elemental bombs but like you said, such a lame way of promoting ability mixing when you only get variants of two abilities and they're not even unique or interesting.
Speaking of Marx's theme, i've had the 25th anniversary orchestration on in the background for the past hour, it's so freaking good
Also I honestly think Galacta Knight's popularity came from the same place Broly's did, "HE'S SUPER STRONG AND DESTROYS PLANETS FOR FUN, HE'S THE SAME RACE AS THE MAIN CHARACTER, SOO COOL"
Yeah I hope so as well.
i'll buy 5
Considering we had Dededetour instead of Metaknightmare, I could see it happening.
You could even make up for situations where the game forces a power up on you by using the heart-throw partner system.
there's a joke going around that's galactica knight is a chick, so you could also say kale would also be a fair comparison.
Well, at least Galacta Knight wasn't triggered by somebody crying next to him when he was a baby.
So does this mean we'll get Fem-Galacta Knight?
i really want a kirby like team kirby clash but without the team part just a kirby in medieval style with a dedede with a crown a squek squad like thiefs waddle dee in a little hourse would be amazing
why the fuck didn't they just let him hate vegeta and let vegeta get a win at least once?
seriously the crying shit is retarded.
King Dedede, you look awful
Well there's no helpin' that. He's back to normal after all
Rick with the sickest of bants
Kirby's always been male, every since the first game.
The english Kirby's Dreamland manual calls him a him, while the japanese manual calls him a young boy.
Why do Kirby games love possessing Dedede
dark matter wants to FUCK that penguin
Because he's the strongest fucker on the star.
Kirby's more versatile and has more potential, but there's a reason that even Star Dream couldn't properly recreate DDD while it could recreate the souls of all the other bosses.
It's like how Mario games like possessing Bowser.
Maybe he's actually that strong. Maybe the entities believe he truly is Dream Land's king (instead of just being self-proclaimed). Maybe it's just bad luck. Who knows.
I blame sakurai for he confusion
sussie is fucking waifu
I think it's bad luck considering the Triple Deluxe situation
Susie probably isn't old enough to be a cake!
There's no confusion.
Kirby has never had a gender in Japan. In pretty much every other localization (English, German, Spanish, etc.) Kirby's referred to with masculine pronouns, but in Japan he still has no gender.
That's not true at all. In fact that's downright retarded
Well, that one was Taranza thinking Dedede was the hero of Dream Land (presumably because he's the king) And not realizing it was actually Kirby until Kirby defeats Dedede.
Because they want him to be a bro but also be the bad guy. They want their cake and they want to eat it too
Link to the exact Japanese text that shows Kirby's male.
Nintendo likes rehashing the main villian every game, but Dedede actually became a hero so they can't just play it straight
Dedede is allowed to be an ass, but he isn't allowed to be evil
just got the robobot suit for the first time
THE SUIT HAS COPY ABILITIES
I wasn't expecting this to be so fun
Time for me to kick King Dedede's ass
get a load of this faggot
I'm gonna steal that fucking cake
Oh man, so you know NOTHING about the game?
Oh fuck man. Leave this thread before you get spoiled.
I swear to Nova, I will kick King Dedede's ass for this
I will grant you one wish...
I want the rest of Kirby's cake
He's presented in a masculine way. He had very masculine actions and mannerisms, in Sakurai's concept art, the human model he drew to mimic Kirby's actions was male. Even then, genderless beings default as makes in most European languages, so referring to him as "he" and "him" is correct even if he's genderless.
Ribbon having romantic interest in him made it pretty cut and dry
Also, all of his love entersts have been very feminine.
steven universe crossover plz
I wish Kirby GCN released when it was supposed to.
give us a Kirby anime, except make it more based on the series as a whole rather than the watered down Kirby's Adventure we got
Perfect, Kirby's cake was taken to below the secret sea. Instead of transporting you to somewhere you can't breathe, I'll extract it out - that means it's time to BLOW UP POPSTAR
I WILL grant you one wish...
also make Dedede an anti-hero instead of a straight antagonist
I want Dark Matter in Smash in its swordsman form.
Bonus points if it gets its Kirby Quest appearance and sword as an alt ala Mac's Wireframe alts or Cloud's Advent Children alts.
Return to Dream Land is still the best Kirby game.
kirby quest alt
but seriously though Mass Attack's side games were WAY better than they needed to be
Mass Attack's side games were WAY better than they needed to be
tfw Dedede Resort
I've been playing DL3 ocassionally and chuchu is adorable
By 'evolved', I guess I really mean 'merged'. It took all the best parts of previous Kirby games and combined them.
OH BOY that's a lot of wishes. Better get doing what I do best...
Kirby and Steven's planets are far away.
Kirby would have to travel lightyears to get to Steven's planet.
Explosions send things far away.
Kirby's on Popstar.
TIME TO BLOW UP POPSTAR
In order to build a time machine to go back and convince the developers to stop fucking around, we need some resources.
LOTS of resources.
Popstar has resources.
We can collect resources, but not when Popstar is whole.
TIME TO BLOW UP POPSTAR
Kirby's too settled in on Popstar to have a proper series that isn't slice of life or based on Adventure.
In order to have Kirby actually have a proper story, we'd need to shake things up.
You know what'd shake things up?
BLOWING UP POPSTAR
Only Kirby things that are on or close to Popstar get into Smash.
Dark Matter is currently not even CLOSE to Popstar, he's like lost in space or something after Robobot.
We have to get him close to Popstar.
But he's lost. But if we had a beacon, he'd stop being lost and get to Popstar.
You know what would make a good beacon? A blown up planet.
You know what planet's close to Popstar? Popstar.
TIME TO BLOW UP POPSTAR
just got doctor for the first time
I want to but I can't
leave leave leave leave leave leave leave
before anyone tells you about the 3 stage in world 4, get the hell out of here
This is why I can't trust you with wishes Nova.
going into a Kirby thread when you're playing through the most recent mainline game
also CURRENT TOP 8 FOR COPY ABILITY POLL, IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER
PAINTFAGS GIVE KIRBY YOUR ENERGY
What the fuck is that, looks horrible.
what is this?
animalfags should be gassed
The pic is for some figurines. I don't know much about it, but from what I've seen it's just a Kirby-themed set for some line of figurines that gives things exaggerated chins.
It also isn't Star Allies, if you haven't heard of that.
okay that's a VERY specific stage number, now you just got me excited
Kirby threads are too comfy, I can't leave
i'll try leaving once I meet Susie whenever that is
seriously though I thought I'd see her by now, I was thinking she was the one who created the robobot suit, meh
Did I detect a wish in this post? :3
There's a line of coin machine toys with goofy chins. They're doing a kirby series
YOU HAVEN'T EVEN MET SUSIE YET
HOW FAR IN THE GAME ARE YOU MAN
ALL OF MY BEST REACTION IMAGES ARE SPOILERS
Can someone give me a quick rundown on these characters?
Animal and water at top 2
one is a terrain puzzle specific ability and water is the most boring of the standard "shoot an element" abilities
what's the point
He's messing with you to try to get you to leave.
Nothing major happens in 4-3, but there's some major things you probably won't want spoiled near the end of the game and post game.
OH, but what I can tell you, is to make sure to pause the game during every boss fight
including all their phases. ALL of them.
holy shit i didn't even notice whispy in the back
But, I can't just abandon Kirby's signature power...
PARASOL'S ALREADY IN THE GAME YOU SILLY
but kirby's signature power is succ
hammer and sword get honorary mentions
fuck, I just opened the image and didn't look at the post
I'm an illiterate scrub
my point still stands, though; there are so many more exciting copy abilities like cutter
I didn't either.
cutter's already in the game
it's not even available in the poll because it's already in the game
But I could get a theme out of it...
*Signature copy ability
Hammer/Sword/Stone/Fire/Cutter all get honorary mentions.
Beam gets second place, as it's used almost as often but was only really at the forefront because it was Sakurai's favourite.
Looks fine but I refuse to buy a Switch until it has bare minimum 5 games I want out.
I should replay Robobot.
I didn't even realize this was for the new game
I think it's time to stop posting
how is beam anyones favorite ability, let alone the BMOC himself
You're a retard and the move from 2D to 3D has improved every Nintendo series it has touched.
t. older than you
Link me all 3 versions of the poll
it's just a halftime report, this is all they're telling us for now
I mean where I can vote
Donkey Kong 64?
Nice digits btw
DK64 is a terrible game.
No we don't, I doubt he was intended to be.
Mario (Includes Kart)
I think they have enough 3D for awhile
that image made me choke, thanks
I'm about to do 1-4
DK64 is bad
I watch shitty youtuber's opinions too lol :^))))
does this borb have copy ability like kirb
the move from 2D to 3D has improved every Nintendo series it has touched.
Mario 64 > SMB3
OoT > ALttP/LA
Metroid Prime > Super Metroid
Punch-Out!! > Mike Tyson's Punch Out!!
Mother 64 > Mother 2/3
this is what numales actually believe
I never said it was bad, I like it, but do you legitimately think DK64 is better than DKC2?
It's not bad because it's 3D, the gameplay and world design is actually very good. The repetitive forced collectables shit is what kills it.
Gooey has more copy abilities then him.
We've never seen borb open his mouth, so no one knows.
the music inside the 1-4 building
this is a remix of SOMETHING, I forget what though
No, only Kirby does.
Well, Gooey does too, but he's not the same species.
Also debatable Rick and TAC, but again they're not the same species as Kirby and Meta Knight.
If Meta Knight doesn't, why does keeby?
Is copying a special kirby thing, or a species thing?
TAC is different, in that he actually just disguises himself as the other enemy.
No one knows what the fuck happened with Rick though, since he IS the one that swallows the enemy.
If Kirby ever gets Wings like Meta and Galacta, they're definitely going to be butterfly wings right?
We don't know if Meta Knight does or doesn't, we've never seen his mouth.
It could even be that he inhaled a Blade or Sword Knight a LONG time ago, and just hasn't given up the power.
After RtD, Triple Deluxe, and Robobot, we've done basically all we can do with the typical Kirby platformer. It's seems like only yesterday we needed a return to form but now we need some overhauls.
There's kind of a reason for that.
Dedede is literally Launchpad
they're definitely going to be butterfly wings right?
Nope, they'll be
In all honesty, it'd be fucking weird if he got any other kind.
Want to download Battle Royale on an American 3DS
I heard you could get banned for playing digital games out of region, is there a way to avoid it? It's okay if I can't play online.
Keeby is non-canon.
Is copying a special kirby thing, or a species thing?
We've never seen another member of his species copy abilities. It can be assumed that they don't know how, Kirby didn't know how to do it before the Sparkling Stars filled him with so much magic that he momentarily turned bigger than Dedede's castle.
Kirby is cute!
I'm going to need a quick run down
Of all the things from Kirby GCN we missed out on, Butterfly Knight is the one I'm most curious about.
Shit poll and shit game anyway.
>like he'll ever figure it out
it's a roundabout reference, at most
holy heck thank you, it was actually starting to bother me
Not voting Suplex
Please no, that thing is total ass cancer. I rather have Kirby crossover with
Jack Kirby's creation like Darkseid and Thanos.
reading spoiler tags in this thread
playing with fire my man
Keeby is non-canon.
we've done basically all we can do with the typical Kirby platformer
DL2 and DL3 had a much bigger focus on exploration and puzzles than all the adventure style games do. Amazing Mirror, even if it's a little divisive, shock the formula right the fuck up. Even some of the mini-games in SS show more platforming options than just "Point A to Point B while collecting C", like Milky Way Wishes or Metaknight's Revenge.
I do think we need an overhaul from the staleness of Kumazaki's directing style, and I wouldn't be opposed to having different game types (3d adventure, rpg, strategy, etc.) but I do think that Kirby Platformers could still explore a lot of different options without being tied down to the Adventure formula.
honestly i'm so used to spoiler tags being used for memes I forgot they could be used for actual spoilers
I loved that Project M made this an alt costume for him. I picked him up as a second back when I played PM a lot and I always used that costume.
Kirby's species are pink, except Meta Knight.
*this is what adults actually believe
AlttP is literally just badOcarina and Super Metroid isn't even the best 2D Metroid.
So they're all pink except when they're not pink
side note: you can stick the stickers to the Robobot's shoulders
there's some REALLY good ones in there
Ocarina is basically just a shitty Link's Awakening.
Prime is definitely better than all the other Metroids though, unless you actually play multiplayer before the hacking in which case Hunters is amazing.
Actually, if you already finished Triple Deluxe, how was that? I'm assuming you're that one guy from like a week ago.
Yeah i'm the same dude, I wasn't expecting Dark Meta Knight to come back so that was fun, also Sectonia Soul was a pain in the ASS
My ideal 3D Kirby would honestly just be a cutesy, laid-back version of DMC3 or 4 Dante gameplay. Each ability has a movelist and Kirby can switch between 2-4 abilities at a time. The Arena just becomes Bloody Palace.
Goddamn first buff Dedede now this. I need a local drawfag to make something funny out of this stat.
huh, I was wondering why they switched from Keychains to stickers, that's pretty cool
Getting to the boss takes much longer in Robobot
Found full isolated images of the Shakurel Kirby set. Do whatever you see fit with them.
Dedede is just tremendous.
Same with Chinborb.
that nightmare creature from the first level was Whispy
yikes, I feel bad for the dude
I wish we could all share some cake. And pizza. Nova, can you go out for a snack run if I gave you like, 20 bucks? Thanks bro.
kirby x pokemon crossover confirmed
tfw kirby and mega man are 2 of m favorite series
I demand more Zero mashup art.
poor whispy, I hope he gets fixed at the end
You're the one who's going to need fixing at the end...
don't do this to me user
DK64 was made by rare.
he looks like Ness
perfect timing my man, also you're scaring me, how is this game supposed to tear my heart out
he looks like Ness
That's the point, user.
just wait until you see the ending cut scene
I still find it funny we now have Pikachu in OU.
ESP kirby as been in more non smash games than Ness
JUST LIKE A CERTAIN BOY WITH PSI
ITS ACTUALLY A FREAKING MOTHER REFERENCE
I didn't pause yet :T
No crying until the VERY end.
yeah, I've been out of the loop for a couple months trying to avoid USUM spoilers
Yeah, all but Meta Knight. In Super Star they're all pink.
SMB3 isn't even the best 2D Mario unless you love autoscrollers.
Will we ever see him again?
Did you notice the cars the waddle dees are driving?
They're the car enemies from Mother 1
He quit Hal years ago, I heard he was a painter or a house designer or something nowadays.
For some reason, Chao from that Journey West NES/Famicom goku game is here.
hey that isn't until world 2
there's no freaking way
look it up
Mother and Kirby were my favorite series as an Early teen, you have no idea how happy this makes me
Pikachu now has a free sub at the start of a battle and a nice physical movepool. GF really wanted their mascot to be good this time.
He's a city planner.
There's a red, green, blue, gray, white and yellow kirby
Mother and Kirby were my favorite series as an Early teen, you have no idea how happy this makes me
Brother from another mother you fucker.
Btw, a lot of Ape employees (people who made Mother) went on to work for Hal later, so that might help to explain a bit.
cheeky little devil
you have to wonder why he made such a drastic change in career.
That picture is of Shigesato Itoi
We don't know what happened to Shimomura, any of the people you can find on google with the same name seemingly have no connection.
There isn't really evidence of his existence outside of the credits in his games.
Hal also worked on the mother series as well so they can get away with cheeky references.
I don't know if i'm just getting better or if the canon game at the end of every stage is just easier in Robobot
the more mother recognition the better
Switching between abilities sounds way more fun if done like in Milky Way Wishes. It would be even cooler if you could combine three abilities to make powers that resemble other vidya characters.
asshole's been fishing
He's stuck on some mountain looking for his daughterfu Adeleine.
honestly the disappearance of Shimomura is the strangest thing, how does NOBODY have records on him
decide to shoot a waddle dee car for shits and giggles thinking they're invincible
it spins out and explodes
you heartless monster.
I am loving the 3D pan shots at the start of every level
though every time I get duped out thinking it's a cutscene and i'm about to meet Susie
That fucking Wispy Woods
in other news, I recognize another remix, I believe it's return to dreamland?
either that or Triple Deluxe, I forget, the soundtrack for the two games are very similar
Poison Kirby is cool as hell
oh cool, my first hunch was right
Shota Kirb a cute!
I don't want to jinx myself but the Code Cubes are a lot easier to find than the Sun stones, like you get the Code Cubes from exploring, not the "there's an area in the place that usually hurts you, except this time it doesn't hurt and there's a sun stone" bull from TD
Not understanding Chad Kirby
Yeah there's like maybe 2 you'd have to replay a level for
I love how just when I type that post, a code cube is just given to me, 0 exploration needed
I'm in love with the music in the casino, I also love how Poison is just better Water Kirby
Is water even in this game?
Water isn't in robobot
Poison is pretty good for damage stacking on bosses to kill them quickly.
Those aren't other members of the species, that's Kirby recolored. The ones in Super Star's tutorial crowd and the end of DL1/Spring Breeze are other puffballs.
gotta love thinking you took the side path but it turning out you took the main one
damnit Shigesato Itoi is Shinichi Shimomura
Man I wish there was a Kirby general.
What kind of subgames would you like to see in future Kirby games?
What about a Susie Extra Mode, where it plays like the mech from Planet Robobot?
Do you really want the threads to get more cancerous?
lone Japanese man, over the course of 2 decades, scours Mont Blanc for a fictional character that he created
/kdlg/ was short-lived but it was actually pretty alright. Nowhere near as good as the pre-RTDL threads, but still pretty fun. It obviously wasn't sustainable given how Kirby threads typically work (dumping fan arts), so it won't happen again. There was a lot of cancer there too though, but it was in the Sup Forums threads too at that time.
Bloody Palace equivalent. Go in with a locked-in Ability/Character (maybe Metaknight/Dedede/Bandana/Helpers are playable in the mode) and go through dozens of floors of enemy groups, minibosses, bosses, enemies with minibosses, groups of 2 or 3 minibosses, bosses with enemies, etc. It'd be a challenge beyond even True Arena to make it, especially if the amount of Maxim Tomatoes remains the same or is slightly reduced.
I just really want a Kirby game with DMC elements guys. I think it's a match made in heaven mechanically that nobody has touched on.
you got a rare Marx sticker
GOING STRAIGHT ONTO MY ROBOBOT SUIT YEEEESSSSSS
I'd like a 3D Kirby game to play more like City Trial when you're just running around.
a passionate dev like the Smash Flash 2 devs or Air Ride Guy will never make a kirby themed smash bros
ITS ALL I WANT. I'D PAY FUCKING MONEY FOR IT
WHY DO I KEEP MISSING KIRBY THREADS FUCK
Wasn't /kdlg/ mostly just a way for ARG to keep us updated?
Holo defense API
Nico, probably should have pickef archer and not ESP
Do you recognize Holo Defense API?
You'll see her again someday.
NEVERMIND, ESP made mince meat of this boss, you guys weren't kidding when you said pause every phase, lots of good lore
It reminds of a boss from 64, but otherwise IDK
OH YEAH, Robobot probably has a "seeecret coooode" like all the other Return to Dreamland type games, so far we have "P-R-O"
STILL no sign of Susie at all
I'm getting blue balled here
Now it's coming back, that's Pix right?
The water actually looks quite nice, I can't tell if they updated it or if I just never noticed it in TD
7 more until bump limit
I don't think i'm meeting Susie today boys
Well, maybe someone can make a thread tomorrow
all of this miiverse stuff on the interface
I know nintendo hates the Wii U, I don't blame them either, but they really did not need to shut Miiverse down that early
Yeah, maybe tomorrow
there are 5 little drills on the machine, and I bet the main machine itself is a world too, so what's a 6 letter word that starts with pro…
all the words i'm thinking of have 7-8 letters
hmm, I wonder if there's room for a 7th or 8th world on this map, maybe it's a Halcandra situation?
Have you guys seen the best costume in Battle Royale? At least, to my knowledge.
Legitimate spoilers in the pic by the way, not story based, but still.
>Eternal Dreamland FLOWERED was the Triple Deluxe word
I hope Star Allies' opening cutscene is half as good as Robobot's good god I wasn't expecting that when I started up the game
The skrulls have invaded dreamland!
I was wondering whether or not it was FLOWERED or just FLOWER, thank you!
also watching it again I totally noticed a motif from that one robobot song that was linked in that thread where I played Triple Deluxe
I love Wispy Wood!
I wish the artist finished the one where he was naked and Kirby was sitting on his boner innocently.
Anyone heard from the Airride sequel guy lately?