Well, the numales for years cried that videogames aren't just for children so...

Austin Thomas
Austin Thomas

well, the numales for years cried that videogames aren't just for children so now they can cry with joy

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Jonathan Reyes
Jonathan Reyes

lootboxes arent going anywhere
laws put in place to keep underage cancer out

I'm not seeing a downside here

Lincoln Anderson
Lincoln Anderson

anita sarkeesian criticizes some video games for being sexist
/v/: OMG FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING MONSTER GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM MY HOBBY! REEE YOU'RE GOING TO RUIN IT!
government steps in to meddle with video games because some retards can't help themselves when buying virtual game items
/v/: OMG YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS! I LOVE THE GOVERNMENT FUCKING WITH MY VIDEO GAMES PLEASE CUM ALL OVER MY FACE AND TAKE THESE TOXIC LOOTBOXES OUT OF MY HANDS BIG GOVERNMENT! <3

Noah Jackson
Noah Jackson

people will actually say this a bad thing

The jews won't be able sell the CHANCE to get what you want without AO. Literally no negatives.

Asher Morris
Asher Morris

Finally.

Landon Flores
Landon Flores

You do know that age restrictions are already a concept, right?

Jayden Jackson
Jayden Jackson

Instead of getting shit for free by playing the game, I now get nothing.
Cosmetics are all cash shop items with zero chance of getting them for free.
Great plan, retard.

Andrew Lee
Andrew Lee

If this happens publishers will be left with no choice but to get rid of lootboxes or any system like it because they will not be willing to lose the 14-20 year old market.

Benjamin Allen
Benjamin Allen

Sounds great, PoE works like that.
Now instead of hooking players with gambling and skinner box mechanics devs will have to focus on worthwhile gameplay.

Chase Parker
Chase Parker

Instead of grinding for free shit and have to make do without for hundreds or even thousands of hours, I have to be given it from the get go

Literal cuck you are

Asher Bennett
Asher Bennett

remember when people used to just play games for the fun of it? when progression ladders and skinner boxes didn't exist? when you paid for a game and got the game?

oh wait, you weren't born when those kinds of games were a thing were you.

Isaiah Harris
Isaiah Harris

That feel when 21
Oh well, I can still buy whatever I want.
I should be 18, but whatever, no one is going to restrict me.
Also, if you honestly believe people under 21 are these "Whales" you're mad at, or you think they don't have parents that will buy the shit anyway you're a fucking moron.
Good job changing nothing.

Benjamin Price
Benjamin Price

lul. They will just slap 21 on the cover and parents still will buy them the games. This law accomplishes nothing

Bentley Ward
Bentley Ward

Uh, no? Remember back in 2007-8? Cosmetics weren't tied to lootboxes. You had to complete challenges to earn them.

Wait, how silly of me, you probably weren't even old enough to remember those years.

Christian Ward
Christian Ward

only affects those under 21
/v/ is mad about it
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Carson Allen
Carson Allen

I have to be given it from the get go
Given
You're not gonna be given anything. You'll have to pay for it, dipshit.

Owen Morgan
Owen Morgan

I should be
It*

Michael Hernandez
Michael Hernandez

You aren't a very bright one, aren't you?
An AO rating is a death sentence for a game, no publisher would ever want that.

James Martinez
James Martinez

Cosmetics and shit were free circa 2006.
L O L. Cosmetics and unlockables being things haven't been around since very early 2000's.

Gavin Fisher
Gavin Fisher

Shitty developers will lash back with making the game shittier
More releases like Lawbreakers in future then, kek

Justin Myers
Justin Myers

Not far enough, they need to impose a tax as well on the additional income these companies make from these boxes. 20% ought to do it.

Chase Powell
Chase Powell

AAAH HELP ME GOVERNMENT

Here's an idea, stop being fucking impulsive retards and funding shitty companies.

Leo Morgan
Leo Morgan

no gambling mechanic for underage bans

this is going to kill mobile gaming. In the US anyway

Jason Roberts
Jason Roberts

Rethink you're life if you just play and grind for cosmetics.

Michael Jackson
Michael Jackson

That makes no difference, parents buy GTA for their 12 year olds

Jonathan Martinez
Jonathan Martinez

That's because that rating is restricted to games about sex.
When more games that don't have sex in them gets that rating what do you think will happen?
That it will carry the same stigma?
If you think that you're still a fucking moron.

Oliver Harris
Oliver Harris

Thinking this will change anything
It'll make the ESRB slap another warning under an M rating, and nobody will actually care.

Nicholas Allen
Nicholas Allen

How is that an idea? That's just an abstract concept, you may as well wish for the abolishment of surplus and demand.

Xavier Collins
Xavier Collins

You had to complete challenges to earn them.

name one (1) online game where you could earn cosmetics by completing challenges and not through buying them

Zachary Moore
Zachary Moore

who knew that all this time he was really /ourguy/

Matthew Richardson
Matthew Richardson

That's because that rating is restricted to games about sex.
No, it's for extreme violence and gambling too and the fact that you didn't know that shows how effective it is.

Andrew Rodriguez
Andrew Rodriguez

PoE
worthwhile gameplay

Levi Perry
Levi Perry

"sexism" vs "illegal gambling"
Really makes you think. I hope America gets nuked soon. You all deserve Drumpf.

Luis Cruz
Luis Cruz

People are disallowed from selling their product
People are prohibited from buying a product
NO NEGATIVES

Benjamin Adams
Benjamin Adams

it's for extreme violence and gambling
In name only.
I've played GTA:SA and it only achieved an AO rating with the Hot Coffee mod.
Why in the world are you even arguing something you know not to be true? Are you so mad about lootboxes that you're willing to try to win an internet argument disingenuously?
Jesus, get some help.

Landon Taylor
Landon Taylor

game includes cosmetics, but in a cash shop/DLC way
WOWWWW, REMEMBER WHEN WE GOT COSMETICS FROM UNLOCKS AND PLAYING THE GAME????
Game has lootboxes that contain cosmetics for free by playing the fucking game.
AHAHAHA, LITTLE BITCH BOY IS SAD HIS LOOTBOXES AND COSMETICS ARE BEING TAKEN AWAY. HAHAHA HE PLAYS GAMES FOR COSMETICS

Daniel Anderson
Daniel Anderson

make lootboxes a mandatory 18 rating
keeps out kiddie cancer if the parents are care bears and doesn't affect you if you aren't an underage b&

Nolan Howard
Nolan Howard

Ill be interested to see how he defines Gambling mechanics and then see how the ESRB response and sues them leaving it to the courts to define what video game loot boxses are.

Ayden Taylor
Ayden Taylor

Halo 3 and Halo Reach.

Parker Morgan
Parker Morgan

No real opinion on lootboxes since I don’t spend money much on those but it sounds like people hear the word
“Regulate” and I can somehow hear people on this thread wince at the mere thought of it.

What gives?

Jose Miller
Jose Miller

Playing games with cosmetic items and cash shops
Get fucked you dick loving faggot.

Juan Cox
Juan Cox

It's getting really hard to believe these days that Sup Forums was responsible for getting EA voted as the worst company in America, considering how hard Sup Forums defends shit like loot boxes these days.

Zachary Turner
Zachary Turner

Space Marine

Chase Morales
Chase Morales

gambling is good because I hate boobs.

what is you on about bruv

Cameron White
Cameron White

Fantastic news, FUCK loot boxes.

John Morgan
John Morgan

Why in the world are you even arguing something you know not to be true?
What are you talking about? I do think lootboxes are gambling and you are wrong about the "in name only" thing, there are several games that got AO for extreme violence and this gem:
Peak Entertainment, a provider of online gambling services, submitted its product to the ESRB for an AO rating to demonstrate its commitment to discouraging underage gambling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AO-rated_video_games

Normally online gambling sites don't even submit their games to ESRB, but if they did then they would all be AO.

Landon Morales
Landon Morales

Good. Then only real games will be on app store

Josiah Bennett
Josiah Bennett

It's almost like it's been years and people grow up.
If you're still angry about Bobby Kotick and you're over the age of 20 you need to grow the fuck up.
And yes, I'm aware Kotick was activision, it's an example retard.

Ryan Lopez
Ryan Lopez

Not wanting the government in our video games is the same thing as defending lootboxes.
How many times must people explain this to you before you understand.

Owen Brooks
Owen Brooks

They finally found a way to control content. People never see the bigger picture.

Today it's lootboxes; tomorrow it's "addictive" games.

Josiah Myers
Josiah Myers

Why can't publishers just you know, sell cosmetic items at a fixed price and let players pick and choose what they want to buy?

Owen Phillips
Owen Phillips

Online gambling services = game
Hurrrrrrrr durrrrrrr
Jesus fucking christ dude, ESRB is for games depictions of said things, not actual said things, does ESRB need to rate a snuff film to prove the Manhunt isn't literally a murder simulator?

David Hill
David Hill

probably because /v/'s userbase is consistently made up of 15-21 year olds and that most of those 21 year olds grow up and realise they were wrong but shitheels like you come here wide-eyed in fascination at some big super-powerful anonymous troll organization capable of ruining game companies by.. voting for them in a poll or whatever.

Dominic Edwards
Dominic Edwards

21 is the majority in amerifat land.
LOL no wonder why they are manchildren who can't drink, love Disney movies, and have a big issue with sexuality.

Dominic Jackson
Dominic Jackson

Thanks EA, you now ruined videogames to the point the government is now involved

Carter Lee
Carter Lee

What are you even trying to say? A game with real sex and a game with fake sex would both get an AO rating.

Colton Ortiz
Colton Ortiz

Call of duty until the lootbox craze. I think the first game where they became randomized was ghosts? I don't remember. Then there was halo 3 and Reach, and I believe halo 4 too, but don't quote me on that. Even in deadspace 2, lost planet 2 (both of which had a decent mp component) you unlocked shit through ranking and/or challenges. Hell, there ARE still games today that do this, like warframe.

Carson Peterson
Carson Peterson

the slippery slope argument
These aren't mutually exclusive

Bentley Scott
Bentley Scott

Slippery slope is okay when we use it ion our argument that every game will have lootboxes if these ones are successful.
BUT SLIPPERY SLOPE IS NOT OKAY WHEN YOU USE IT.

Joshua Howard
Joshua Howard

people underestimating how much of the online gaming player base is under 18

If lootboxes get age gated, they disappear.

Ryder Nelson
Ryder Nelson

Why are you obsessed with numales?

Julian Lewis
Julian Lewis

What was the last time you've seen 21+ game in physical form user?
Chances are that it was fuck-long time ago, since normal shops just don't sell these kind of games. Slapping 21 on cover ACTUALLY hurts the sales.

Hudson Price
Hudson Price

And a game with fake gambling (GTA:SA) (Road Trip) doesn't get an AO rating and real gambling does.
A game with extreme violence (80% of games made) doesn't and a snuff film does!
Wow, it's almost like you're a fucking retard that can't determine that you're wrong!
If you seriously think ESRB holds sex on the same priority as gambling and violence you should stop embarrassing yourself.

Justin James
Justin James

American education at its finest

Andrew Moore
Andrew Moore

They finally found a way to control content
yeah, about 23 years ago

Leo Murphy
Leo Murphy

I'm okay with this. I always found it really fucking sketchy that games aimed at ages 6+ had lootbox like mechanics.

Levi Phillips
Levi Phillips

Americans have suffered years of brainwashing. They truly believe any form of regulation is bad.

Lucas Baker
Lucas Baker

What are you even trying to say?
Lootboxes aren't virtual depictions of gambling, they are literal gambling with real money involved.

Tyler Hernandez
Tyler Hernandez

Tekken 7

Luke Carter
Luke Carter

because they ruin everyone's fun by bitching about everything
Games can't have sexy women because is sexist
Games can't have strong scenes because is triggering (for an M-Rating)

Isaac Richardson
Isaac Richardson

that's an industry initiative

Angel Anderson
Angel Anderson

What has Kotick got to do with anything? I haven't seen anyone on Sup Forums talk about him in ages.

and that most of those 21 year olds grow up and realise they were wrong but shitheels like you come here wide-eyed in fascination at some big super-powerful anonymous troll organization capable of ruining game companies by.. voting for them in a poll or whatever.

What do you even mean by this? I'm just saying that Sup Forums used to hate EA to the point where people here got that company voted as the worst company in America, but now Sup Forums are the only ones defending EA during this whole lootbox shitshow.

Nathaniel Adams
Nathaniel Adams

finally
Nigger they're just adding one more item to the list of things not allowed

Samuel Cooper
Samuel Cooper

Sadly this wont do anything. Government always caters to big companies so this is just a waste of time.

Mason Edwards
Mason Edwards

Your argument was that the ESRB would have to crack down regardless and now your argument is that suddenly they should always care, not because the government told them too.
Damn, whipping nerds like you is too ez.

Luke Hill
Luke Hill

why do you care that all games with loot boxes will be 18+?
You are not under 18, right?

Nolan Gonzalez
Nolan Gonzalez

Could this actually open up valve to allowing AO games on steam?

Kevin Torres
Kevin Torres

If you're seriously trying to pretend you're over the age of 18 you're not fooling anyone.
Take a few years off this site and realize you're being a retarded idealist.

Chase Roberts
Chase Roberts

More unenforceable bullshit. See: ESRB.

All this is going to do is annoy shitty parents who will buy their shitty kids shitty games with shitty "gambling mechanisms" in them while complaining loudly about it to the shitty store clerk working a shitty dead end job for shitty pay.

Anthony Hall
Anthony Hall

Its almost like you guys dont know what a fakeid is, better make sure its a high quality one so it can get past those cat-eyed gamestop employees and steam age gate.

Joseph Reyes
Joseph Reyes

It's made to tell the government "hey, we're self regulating, no need to regulate us directly". By declaring lootboxes as not gambling, they've pretty much sounded the death knell of the freedoms that the video games industry is currently enjoying.

Jason Martinez
Jason Martinez

Point is I don't need one, youngfag.
The constant snooping of niggers that think they know what's best for me doesn't matter because I'm not some child that needs to be told what to do.

Jose Reyes
Jose Reyes

The fact that he didnt know it shows how few people give a shit about the rating.

Charles Howard
Charles Howard

What most people ignore is that these lootboxes are designed to exploit retards (which includes all kids). You open one and it flashes, plays sounds, calls you awesome, tells you you got a rare, super rare, mega rare and ultra super mega deluxe rare drop while offering to suck your dick.
This shit is done specifically to get people hooked on buying lootboxes. It's been extensively studied and casinos employ these kind of tricks to get people to spend more money.

The majority of lootbox sales almost certainly come from kids, because they're the ones dumb enough to fall for this shit time and time again.

Hudson Foster
Hudson Foster

buying EA games
buying loot boxes
playing games for the social aspect
playing games with skinner box tactics
paying for microtransactions

Patethic

Christian Fisher
Christian Fisher

All the assmad burgerclap /pol/fags crying snot over regulations that should have been made by the ESRB decades ago because of muh slippery slope memes

Loving.
Every.
Laugh.

Julian Morales
Julian Morales

Regulate = oversight = more hoops for games to jump through = more hoops for me to jump through

Brandon Morales
Brandon Morales

Then maybe parents should actually be, uh, y'know, parents.
I wasn't allowed to play ANY M rated games when I was younger because my mom was on top of that shit.

Anthony Cruz
Anthony Cruz

You seriously lack basic reading comprehension, I showed ESRB rates real gambling and extreme violence as AO when you said it's only "for sex" and anything else is only "on paper".
I proved you wrong and now you are making up nonsense.
ESRB currently doesn't consider lootboxes gambling and there was already a previous drama directly related to this, they failed at their job and now the government has to step in.

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross

Oh no it looks like our law is being broken because there's no way to tell if users are under 21!
No problem boss, we'll just force people to sign in with Facebook or a government issued scanned ID :o)

Enjoy contributing to the end of anonymity on the internet, you fucking idiot retards

Samuel Hall
Samuel Hall

Take a few years off this site and realize you're being a retarded idealist.

How so? All I'm doing is talking about how /v/'s attitude has changed since 2012.

Thomas Cooper
Thomas Cooper

This man cannot be reasoned with he simply cant read

Ayden Flores
Ayden Flores

It's fun how they always use OW's loot boxes as illustration, where the loot box mechanic isn't a problem.

Jacob James
Jacob James

ESRB is self regulation though. It's not mandated by the government and there is no legal requirement to enforce age restrictions.

What these age ratings will do is put video games with lootboxes into the same category as things like alcohol. Much stricter regulations, it'll be actually illegal to sell to kids and they will be required to include some form of age verification because if kids can still easily access it, they're going to get fined to hell.

Angel Barnes
Angel Barnes

ESRB
Government
Found the retard

Ayden Gray
Ayden Gray

remember, the UN got involved with destroying "gamers"

now that governments are involved expect.a resolution against banter

Parker Gonzalez
Parker Gonzalez

Most of these games with lootboxes have age ratings that are for teens and above. That is anyone 13 years or older.

Logan Anderson
Logan Anderson

ONI CHAAAAN MUH SLOPE IS SLIPPERING ON IT'S OWN

Jayden Rivera
Jayden Rivera

What anonymity on the internet? Please tell me you don't honestly believe that because your name is listed as "Anonymous" on Sup Forums that you are somehow actually anonymous.

Nolan Butler
Nolan Butler

mfw the American public education system

Nathaniel Jackson
Nathaniel Jackson

YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS

SLAY QUEEN SLAY

You LOSER men are all going to be put in your places :)

Soon the government will control you games and DRUMPF will be impeached AND Queen Hilldog will reign supreme!

Popular vote INCOMING!

Henry Brown
Henry Brown

There are people born after 9/11 who are on 4chin

Jaxson James
Jaxson James

Just like the meat packing industry. Oh wait.

Chase Barnes
Chase Barnes

And gambling is usually prohibited for everyone 18 or 21 and under, depending on your country.

Jacob Ramirez
Jacob Ramirez

is Sup Forums really defending lootboxes now? It's like you're trying to beat out /tv/ as the most retarded board

Adam Price
Adam Price

At the very least, they need to put an option to lock microtransactions. Many mobile games have that feature so that parents block off all microtransactions, and then keep it locked away by their own password.
Additionally, Lootboxes can really only be purchased through a credit card, so I have no clue how a young 13 - 16 year old teenager is getting access to one.

Ian Baker
Ian Baker

we should impede free exchange of money for discretionary purchases

seems like a negative

Ian Nguyen
Ian Nguyen

overwatch lootboxes are a problem though. what ever happened to the days of unlocking what skins you want specifically by playing or just paying for it directly from the cash shop?

instead you're fucking gambling your money on boxes for a CHANCE to get something you want.

Parker Smith
Parker Smith

And less prepubescent fuckheads running around murder simulators is inherently bad, why?

Nathaniel Edwards
Nathaniel Edwards

Versus there being no hoops to jump and people can flood the market and cause another crash is somehow better?

Look at steam, the entire mobile games industry, hell Nintendo have a better regulatory management than PSN. Have you seen the shit on PSN? Ghastly.

Henry Collins
Henry Collins

Today it's lootboxes; tomorrow it's "addictive" games.
retarded shill is retarded. gambling is something very specific. general microtransactions are greedy but honest: you pay x amount of money for a certain item, not the POSSIBILITY to win it.

Kevin Powell
Kevin Powell

you can't pass a law every time someone does something stupid, this isn't a matter of public safety or something important it's a small minority of idiots who either spend too much of their money on stupid crap which is not the governments business or it's children whose parents need to step up and either watch what their kids are playing or restrict access to their credit cards by their kids in which case it's definitely not the governments business

Christian Cruz
Christian Cruz

Video games have been entirely corrupted by filth like EA, Activision, Bethesda, and Ubisoft.
Everyone wants a slice of the pie because of them, and the shitty business practices are only getting worse.
But big government regulation is bad and will destroy video games

It's too late for that.
These companies have ruined video games for me. I am now going to ruin it for them.

I'm going to burn it all to the fucking ground now that I know it's an option.

Leo Anderson
Leo Anderson

Reminder these are the anti-"vote with your wallet" people

Cooper Parker
Cooper Parker

Just like how porn sites get you to verify your identity by sending in government ID so they don't get in trouble?

Nathan Peterson
Nathan Peterson

You clearly never saw the mobile market, 99% of the games are MTX cancer for kids.

You are sorely wrong if you think current PC/console microtransaction cancer is as bad as it can get and the "market regulates itself", this is just the beginning.

Logan Long
Logan Long

nu-/v/fags will not be able to gamble anymore

AHAHAHAHA

Thomas Wright
Thomas Wright

if you can't see that you're being pandered to you should immediately remove yourself from all political discourse

Lincoln Bell
Lincoln Bell

Go to gas station
Get steam/ps plus/live but whatever the fuck card with cash
Put in code
??????
Get loot boxes/keys

Ayden Hughes
Ayden Hughes

Sure, but the point is, right now you cannot blame a parent for buying a 13+ year old something like Battlefront 2, because the age rating on the game states it is fine for people of this age and older to play the game.

Lootboxes can really only be purchased through a credit card

This is wrong though. Pretty much every platform and almost every publisher sells prepaid cards. Anyone can buy these in a store with real money, take it home, enter a code and get money to buy lootboxes with.

Joseph Cook
Joseph Cook

DUDE JUST VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET LMAO

Cooper Cooper
Cooper Cooper

It's now literally over a year since the election and people here are still shitposting about it

Xavier Perry
Xavier Perry

expecting based potus to raise taxes

A president has just lowered taxes, any candidate campaigning on raising them again is dead in the water

Samuel Sanders
Samuel Sanders

You get lootboxes BY playing the fucking game, you aspie. You can get credit in lootboxes which can be used to purchase the skins you want directly.

Bentley White
Bentley White

Oh my god the loser is trying to make this a pasta

Connor Martinez
Connor Martinez

call of duty back in the day, all multiplayer gun skins were unlock based without any boosts

Cameron Morales
Cameron Morales

Path of Exile has fantastic gameplay, its just it doesnt occur when playing the game, it happens when planning a build

Kevin Bell
Kevin Bell

Reminder that if ESRB wasn't corrupt and actually did their fucking job in regulating the industry all this bullshit could have been avoided.

Eli Fisher
Eli Fisher

you forgot to mention that you can only earn lootboxes on a gated weekly timer and those credits often require an insane amount of playtime than just buying it with cash.

Thomas Butler
Thomas Butler

So he killed himself?

Gavin Jenkins
Gavin Jenkins

this guy
defending snuff films, are you? what a sick fuck

Bentley Adams
Bentley Adams

Except you still unlock them by playing. The order is just randomized.

Kevin Reed
Kevin Reed

i hope he will make lotsa spaghetti

Nolan Myers
Nolan Myers

And?
Let them piss away their dosh and ruin themselves financially. Let them get a turboslapping from their parents too.
A fool and his money are soon parted, and money nowadays is what gets you anything, if they spend all that dosh on lootboxes then they are less fit to reproduce and die alone and childless.
The problem solves itself, let the fools dig their own grave

Hudson Torres
Hudson Torres

see

so not only are you gated in a game you already paid for, but it's also your reward is randomized. blizzard does this on purpose to encourage players to spend. it's just like how mobile games do it. jack up the grind rates to encourage people to spend.

John Myers
John Myers

Im argie

Liam Martin
Liam Martin

Fucking sweet no more rng skinner box crates in my games
Golden age of gaming soon lads

David Perez
David Perez

That plate is full of shit, this one I have is only half filled with shit. That makes mine OK and his not.

Are you saying it wouldn't it be better if you earned the CREDITS and not the lootboxes that have a CHANCE to drop the credits? Stop defending shit because there's worse shit out there, shit is shit.

John Brown
John Brown

You guys do realize that companies only make cosmetics and shit because loot boxes work right?

Here's what's going to happen if they make loot boxes illegal
no more risky games because they can't be supported by lootbox model
all mobile genre dead permanently except for those that switch over to odd models
content for other games cut into pieces because there's no financial model for supporting extra content
games that have cosmetics or items for sale will now see everyone with the same stuff because there's no element of randomness to randomize it
EA/Obsidian will keep not making games tailored to you
game prices are going to increase 10-20$ to support the now reduced microtransaction sales
because randomization is taken out, games will outright sell you power for cash like Candy Crush, except in multiplayer now

You guys are young dumb and stupid
NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON HERE CARES ABOUT CHILDREN AND GAMBLING
You'll eventually learn that trusting government is a no-no

Evan Jones
Evan Jones

When was the last video games crash? The 1980s?

Eli Nelson
Eli Nelson

So you're plan is telling people not to do something just because you don't like it?
I'm pretty sure that doesn't work so well seeing as how people are still buying loot boxes.

Jack Gray
Jack Gray

How's that revisionism working out for you there, buddy?

Carson Jones
Carson Jones

government intervention to stop free market transactions
people are unironically cheering this on
Come the fuck on Sup Forums

John Russell
John Russell

/v/ opposes feminists ruining vidya
/v/ opposes companies turning every vidya into a slot machine

Typical post from a marketer who can't possibly put himself in the shoes of an actual gamer.

Cooper Rivera
Cooper Rivera

This whole lootbox polemics always made me think of one thing. Besides Brazil, my birth country I've lived in 4 countries, 3 during my studies and a student exchange in the US, and the only places in which people were both NEEDING government regulation and EXTREMELY against it were Brazil and the US. Also, far worse than the other three, which I won't name because I'll already be called UMA DELICIA, I'd rather not be called a commie UMA DELICIA

Aiden Long
Aiden Long

Exactly. Concerned parent groups and pundits can produce any number of shit studies linking games to kids failing school etc now and there's more chance they'll be believed.

Bong politicians genuinely believe "screen time" causes a disease called "mind change" and use that to campaign against games

John Brown
John Brown

don't forget, they're not very transparent with the drop rates

Noah Flores
Noah Flores

game gets an A only rating
origin,steam and pretty much any other platform has no means of confirming your age
kids buy it online as usual while consolefags will have to stick with the latest cawwaduti

Henry Jones
Henry Jones

yeah that goes part and parcel with my point

Leo Diaz
Leo Diaz

Imagine being such a contrarian faggot that you defend lootboxes and EA, just because Reddit doesn't like it.

Aiden Martinez
Aiden Martinez

stripping all content from a game before launch just to sell it back to the players in increments through a digital roulette wheel is better than letting raging bulldykes with zero industry experience make important decisions on the way games are designed

Jason Bell
Jason Bell

get a load of this guy, lmao

Nathan Cruz
Nathan Cruz

people who are now legally adults were 5 years old when the war on terror started and likely don't remember a time before it. Its a pretty weird thought

Kevin Allen
Kevin Allen

They truly believe any form of regulation is bad
it is

Julian Anderson
Julian Anderson

I'd like to give you some money so I can get this character in my game faster

Remember when you didn't have to grind or spend money to get Darth Maul or Han Solo or whatever?

Asher Ward
Asher Ward

Oh thank fuck mobile gaming didn't successfully ruin vidya. i'm so happy right now

Adam Foster
Adam Foster

user, I hate to break it to you, but absolutely everything is regulated.

Dylan Myers
Dylan Myers

OMGGGGGG AGE RESTRICTING A CANCER THAT ONLY EXISTED FOR LESS THAN A DECADE AND ONLY BECAME COMMON IN THE LAST YEAR WILL BE THE FUCKINGGNGEN EEENDDD FOTHEOFTHEEE [email protected]!!!

Adrian Rivera
Adrian Rivera

You're forgetting something. That AO rating is at least telling the government that some sort of self-regulation is going on. Without it, they have a big opening in writing up some retarded legislation that will regulate video games.

Luke Roberts
Luke Roberts

Blizzard actually does require an ID and phone number to use their services.

Ryder Parker
Ryder Parker

games that have cosmetics or items for sale will now see everyone with the same stuff because there's no element of randomness to randomize it

The entire reason you even think this will happen is because the Lootbox mechanic excuses characters only having one good skin that's ultra rare or people only using rare skins because they are rare.
You are assuming the same will happen if lootboxes are removed, and not people picking their favorite skins because for a system where you buy individual skins to work there has to be more than one skin worth buying..

Nicholas Gomez
Nicholas Gomez

Gated weekly timer
You get a lootbox every time you level up. If you play with a single other person you get bonus xp on top of the "first win of the day" bonus xp which allows you to level up about once a day if you play for long enough stretches (2 hours or so but i don't know exactly).

Matthew Rodriguez
Matthew Rodriguez

anti-monopoly regulation is the only keeping the country even half-functional

Zachary Foster
Zachary Foster

Give me one example of a large-scale unregulated, functioning market.

Juan Watson
Juan Watson

Oh no! The government is going to regulate gambling!

Cooper Lopez
Cooper Lopez

... we have anti-monopoly laws?

Michael Fisher
Michael Fisher

Sup Forums and Sup Forums in general are just desperate to be contrarian. Not that I can't enjoy it at times (who the fuck didn't love voting Launchpad into being the best sidekick in video game history?) but that's just something you gotta learn to accept about this place. People will say whatever they gotta say to get those precious (You)'s, whether it be from some other faggot in this thread or on twitter or from the company itself.

Andrew Cooper
Andrew Cooper

Most of the mobile gacha bullshit companies are already jumping ship with their western servers and the law isnt even out yet.
There are only good things that can come out of this.

Oh and fuck EA too.

Julian Bell
Julian Bell

This unfortunately has a far reaching impact on a multi-billion dollar industry.
Lootboxes have allowed AAA companies to make immense profit margins on titles that frankly don't deserve it.
This has motivated them to abandon any game concepts that do not lend themselves to lootboxes.
Visceral was basically shut down and their single player Star Wars game canceled because there's no way it could compete in terms of projected profits with games that have lootboxes.
It is a cancer that is killing vidya and there's no way consumers will kill it so the government has to step in and apply some chemo.
That's, of course, not how the government sees it but that is the reality.

Jack Evans
Jack Evans

games that have cosmetics or items for sale will now see everyone with the same stuff because there's no element of randomness to randomize it

In Team Fortress 2, everyone can just buy the same hats, but most people in that game look different from each other.

Carson Wright
Carson Wright

I want underage retards out of Sup Forums

Colton Myers
Colton Myers

lootboxes arent gambling, tho. No matter how much your retarded brain wants to think they are.

Bentley Cox
Bentley Cox

Do you think i want the government to regulate lootboxes? Where did you get that idea from, eh moron?

You're literally making shit up as you go, like people who defend net neutrality not realize that shit was ALREADY fucked and that was with net neutrality being the norm for years(forever). Companies ALREADY don't do risky ventures, and lootboxes being propagate throughout the industry just made shit worse than what it used to be back on early 360/ps3 days.

I don't want the government to regulate lootboxes any more than you do, buddy. I'm adamant about that. What I DO wish would happen is player and community backlash every time EA, ubisoft and the like slip.

Kayden Edwards
Kayden Edwards

Explain why they are not gambling, taking into account the legal definition of gambling.

Mason Evans
Mason Evans

Remember when you had to unlock characters instead of having the option to unlock them or pay for a chance to unlock them in the shitty star wars game
Wow, it's fucking nothing.

Adrian Ward
Adrian Ward

Remove "functioning" from that equation and I still can't answer that question.

Ryder Green
Ryder Green

I don't understand sarcasm

Gavin Carter
Gavin Carter

if this shitty development of the last few years gets banned then the entire games industry will be dead forever no ifs ands or buts
seems kind of retarded and overblown

Brayden Williams
Brayden Williams

This is true. You're just paying money for a random chance of getting an item you want.

Kayden Myers
Kayden Myers

Funny how you guys locked onto the one thing that doesn't really matter because you can't argue the other points

Nolan Lewis
Nolan Lewis

takes real currency
exploits the same exact mental vulnerabilities that other gambling activities exploit
I bet that if a slot machine gives you 1 cent every time you lose, you wouldn't consider it gambling.

Colton Allen
Colton Allen

mmm yes please mama government cum on my face and destroy the games I hate
j-just don't mess with MY favourite games ok?
nu-/v/ is literally a mistake

Daniel Brooks
Daniel Brooks

Loot cuck

Sebastian Taylor
Sebastian Taylor

Open a casino
$10 min bet
give someone a quarter if they lose
now kids can play because it's not gambling

Brandon Walker
Brandon Walker

I think it's funny how you locked on to the replies that don't really matter because you can't argue the other replies

Thomas Johnson
Thomas Johnson

EA was a mistake to the gaming industry.

James Brooks
James Brooks

Mmm yes, please keep fucking me in the ass, Mr Vidya Corporation. Don't worry, I'm sure mama Government won't notice.

Christopher Sullivan
Christopher Sullivan

Never said that buddy, just said that financially games will be forced to stick to safer models.

I can make a shitty game that a fringe group enjoys if a few whales float it
I can't do that if I have no way to let whales float it, so I'm forced to make more generic wide reaching games that appeal to everyone

Julian Wood
Julian Wood

Just like how when you create a facebook account you have to scan your mandatory Satan-issued biochip to prove you are 13? Or when you watch an R-rated movie or play an M-rated game? Fucking retard.

Landon Sanchez
Landon Sanchez

Government regulation is never a good thing. Just stop fucking buying microtransactions.

Carson Barnes
Carson Barnes

Good goy

Ayden Jenkins
Ayden Jenkins

The thing is that in the old Battlefront 2, you can get the hero characters literally just by getting enough kills or objectives in a single life. There were no unlocks.

Hunter Collins
Hunter Collins

no more risky games because they can't be supported by lootbox model
What major publishers are out here taking risks? They're only looking to make the most accessible lowest common denominator centric game possible already.
all mobile genre dead permanently except for those that switch over to odd models
Wow, who gives a fuck
content for other games cut into pieces because there's no financial model for supporting extra content
Pulling this straight out your ass right now.
games that have cosmetics or items for sale will now see everyone with the same stuff because there's no element of randomness to randomize it
That should not be the focus of a game anyway. And this sounds like more bullshit.
EA/Obsidian will keep not making games tailored to you
They're already tailored for casuals and kids that have no sense of quality. It's the same shit every year.
game prices are going to increase 10-20$ to support the now reduced microtransaction sales
Implying season passes don't heavily incentive spending an extra 20-40 already
because randomization is taken out, games will outright sell you power for cash like Candy Crush, except in multiplayer now
More bullshit. It'll be pr nightmare

You have no point that even makes sense enough to argue 2/10.

Kevin Richardson
Kevin Richardson

buy game
lootboxes can be gained through gameplay or can be bought
buy them anyway
cry gambling

Ryan Ramirez
Ryan Ramirez

yeah, just like how banning lead from the water supply also made tea illegal.

Elijah Bennett
Elijah Bennett

You're right. It should be legal for niggers to take all your shit.

Brandon Jackson
Brandon Jackson

what did you expect when publishers began trying to skirt anti-gambling laws/regulations?
They invited this shit into the industry, not the consumers. If they'd just acknowledged it was gambling in the first place there'd be no government involvement now.

But they're not content with only being able to milk retarded adults, they want to milk retarded children too.

Chase Cook
Chase Cook

Libertarian is clinically retarded

colour me surprised

Juan Howard
Juan Howard

being this mad

Jose Barnes
Jose Barnes

Time is money.

Nicholas Diaz
Nicholas Diaz

t. 20 years old who ''understands'' the world.

Justin Hill
Justin Hill

reminder that this is the average consumer when you say "vote with your wallet". From a youtube video about PS4 paid online.

Robert Morales
Robert Morales

are you saying that games with loot boxes aren't generally piles of mediocre shit?

Carson Perry
Carson Perry

What the fuck are you talking about? Lootboxes and pandering to normies allows them to sell the blandest, safest pieces of shit possible.
That's where the industry has been heading towards the last 2 decades, mainstream games only keep getting more generic because that's the most profitable route.

Jack Brown
Jack Brown

I can't stop laughing at all the people trying to argue that loot boxes are a good addition to games

Bentley Phillips
Bentley Phillips

what is Manhunt
Just stop.

Kayden Lopez
Kayden Lopez

You fart huffing shit breath dweebs need to grow the fuck up. Shitty loot boxes in video games is not a reason to let da gubbment start telling video game creators what they are and are not allowing what they can and cannot do with their own fucking game.

The irony here is a lot of you bitch asses probably cry about government intervention when it’s convinient.

Get fucking bent

Sebastian Cooper
Sebastian Cooper

mommy buy me this game
21+only warning on the cover and at checkout
billy what the hell are you tying to play
mommy its just loo-
youre grounded and I'm taking away your xbox

Connor Young
Connor Young

play for 80 hours grinding lootboxes to PROGRESS IN THE GAME
make 0 progress because you got fucked by EAs thick shaft

Leo Edwards
Leo Edwards

libertarians have nothing on ancaps.

Aiden Watson
Aiden Watson

implying the publisher wouldn't just pull some bullshit to push you into buying it anyways
winning, losing, idling, whatever you do, those lootbox chances in battlefront II aren't going to change

Sebastian Sanchez
Sebastian Sanchez

I guess you're right, but the contrarianism on Sup Forums these days is just getting ridiculous. I honestly think that if SOPA was a thing today, Sup Forums would support it and shitpost like "LOL PIRATES BTFO!".

Caleb Bailey
Caleb Bailey

he said as he shitposted on Sup Forums about things he has no understanding of

Jeremiah Long
Jeremiah Long

You just described a Happy Meal

Jacob Reed
Jacob Reed

u mad there'll be no little kids to beat up on now to validate all that money you blew on lootboxes?

Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward

get told
wahh, you're just mad
Quality post.

Dominic Cook
Dominic Cook

I'm aware of all of that but "the quality of AAA games will get shittier" is not a good enough reason for the government to intervene just like the quality of romance novels becoming worse and sleezier wouldn't be a good reason for them to be regulated like pornography

Josiah Peterson
Josiah Peterson

im right cause I said so

Carter Thomas
Carter Thomas

Game [Silver Edition|
Game [Gold Edition]
Game [Complete Edition]
Game [Complete Edition] + 10FREE roulette spins
Juts nuke the fucking industry already

Aaron Parker
Aaron Parker

I don't buy them, and I don't give a shit about gambling. If I'm going to gamble I'll do it for money. I'd be all in favor of totally dropping gambling regulation. Let kids in actual casinos for all I give a fuck.

But it's retarded to assume that the government wouldn't get involved when huge corporations try to skirt gambling laws, especially in places like the US

Isaac Thomas
Isaac Thomas

This, fuck food safety regulations, I should be able to die from hotdogs made from rat meat and poop if I so desire.

Jace Ward
Jace Ward

That's because that rating is restricted to games about sex.
It's not, Manhunt 2's uncensored version got the AO rating. Furthermore most retailers refuse to even stock AO rated games just like they used to do with NC-17 rated movies however movies were at least able to get around that by just rereleasing it as an unrated edition.

William Scott
William Scott

Overwatch lootboxes are literally the only acceptable lootbox system in the industry and it keeps getting used as an example

I don't understand

Jeremiah Bell
Jeremiah Bell

argues 7 points
You have no point that even makes sense enough to argue

Elijah Wilson
Elijah Wilson

feminists are cancer
loot boxes are cancer
/v/ wants them to both fuck off
what's your point

Adam Miller
Adam Miller

haha you like good intervention but cry about bad intervention fucking hypocrite!!

Jonathan Barnes
Jonathan Barnes

look at this fucking idiot doesn't understand the difference between sexism and gambling

Jonathan Wood
Jonathan Wood

implying that I want the government to regulate just because I hate loot boxes
I blame the ESRB for giving them an opening to regulate.

Ryder Russell
Ryder Russell

Happy meals are gambling

Brody Parker
Brody Parker

t was HER. FUCKING. TURN. HERRRRRS aaughh

Landon Ramirez
Landon Ramirez

Because Overwatch lootboxes are not acceptable?
See

Cooper Bailey
Cooper Bailey

/v/ is defending Electronic "worst company in USA" Arts and Electronic "golden poo award winner for 3 years in a row" now

What the fuck happened?

Connor Parker
Connor Parker

Off-topic but I don't want to make another thread, but how populated are the servers in the old battlefront 2?

Brody Campbell
Brody Campbell

Government regulation doesn't always make a situation worse. Companies shouldn't be allowed to exploit psychology for profit to this degree.

Dominic Anderson
Dominic Anderson

If we were currently seeing a stream of super creative niche titles that happened to be supported by the lootbox model i might agree see your point, but thats not the situation we are in. Its trashy mobile games and greedy AAA executives trying to figure out how to suck even more money out of each customer. Its not The Witcher with loot boxes, its COD.

David Gonzalez
David Gonzalez

he thinks that's a good comparison

Lincoln Long
Lincoln Long

Because in this case its a situation where the people from the first scenario you pointed out win

companies wont release lootboxes if their audience is limited due to age restriction

Mason Baker
Mason Baker

Overwatch lootboxes are acceptable

Brandon Robinson
Brandon Robinson

1) You get a shitton of lootboxes by leveling up, and when you get to 100, you suddenly level up super fast again
2) You get a shitton of lootboxes from Arcade Mode, both for winning 9 games a week and for winning new versions of the game
3) They also give you free holiday box at the beginning of each holiday
4) If you reach gold border, you probably have every item because of loot boxes from leveling and arcade. Leveling to gold border is 1000 loot boxes, silver border is 500 loot boxes

Nicholas King
Nicholas King

What's wrong with that? If you don't like X, don't buy X.
No one forces you to buy lootboxes. Not even in most systems are you required to pay for a lootbox.
Now fuck off to your Reddit Discord you little fag

Ian Price
Ian Price

Disliking EA is now "Reddit", I guess.

Aaron Harris
Aaron Harris

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.... let's not accidentally the entire American economic model.

Bentley Green
Bentley Green

and guess what, the economy suffers for it

Jeremiah Myers
Jeremiah Myers

all or nothing
Kindly go jump in the nearest fire.
Sometimes government intervention is beneficial and sometimes it's detrimental.
Any rational human bean can analyze situations on a case by case basis instead of clinging to some retarded ideological absolutes.

Nolan Evans
Nolan Evans

some of Sup Forums would rather side with EA than admit that regulation might in this one instance be worthwhile
Ideology is a hell of a drug

Aaron Murphy
Aaron Murphy

if you don't want the Man to mess with your games you like EA and support it

Jeremiah Nelson
Jeremiah Nelson

That would still be gambling because we know the value of money relative to itself so we can 100% agree that it's not a 1 to 1 exchange of value. With a lootbox, we can't easily determine the worth of cosmetics (which is why different games have different prices) other than that we know there is a definite exchange of goods, even if randomized. The previous lootbox in overwatch, which is the one I'm most knowledgeable of so I'll talk about it, cannot be the same as the previous one by function. Even if you roll all duplicates, you will get currency instead of a dead item which has its own value in-game.

Gabriel Lee
Gabriel Lee

loot boxes in a psy to play game
acceptable
Blizzcucks please kys

Ayden Thompson
Ayden Thompson

Gears of War 3

Lincoln Collins
Lincoln Collins

Regulating what a private citizen does is bad, coming together to tell a giant corporation they can't fuck us raw is good.

Jose Scott
Jose Scott

This is no more "government telling video game creators what to do" than the ESRB already is, all it does is give you a stricter rating if you have gambling in your video game. The ESRB is already a lot stupider than a loot box regulation, the fact that a game like Halo 3 is the same rating as Manhunt or Silent Hill 2 is asinine.

Nathaniel Robinson
Nathaniel Robinson

where were you when they made sex games AO? were you seeing the bigger picture then? Or when the most awfully violent game in history MORTAL KOMBAT (1) got news anchors and moms in a berserker rage, and they added stipulations for bloody games and their ratings?

Ethan Ross
Ethan Ross

Any rational human bean can analyze situations on a case by case basis instead of clinging to some retarded ideological absolutes.

But this is Sup Forums, where nothing is rational, so everyone has to be either an ancap or a communist.

Joshua Collins
Joshua Collins

I don't like loot boxes however I don't like government snooping into my video games even more.

Chase Scott
Chase Scott

When did Sup Forums become so full of statists who embrace government control of video game features?

David Wilson
David Wilson

EA shills are in full PR damage control. Every week they send a new excuse to all gaming journalists on how they "care" about players. Of course they would shill in the top 5 most popular gaming forums on the internet.
Check the archives as well, same format of shills every post.

Carson Hernandez
Carson Hernandez

I wouldn't use half the skins in Overwatch if I didn't get them randomly from a crate
Same with the player icons and sprays

The only skin I bought recently was a red Moira and "Stupidity is not a right" voice line.
Kinda regret not getting purple Orisa null sector skin

Josiah Evans
Josiah Evans

against sex positivity
for corporate greed
happy_merchant.png

Alexander Jones
Alexander Jones

the SUPERCLUSTER of the torn apart asshole of the contrarians

After the paid mods, the mods of GTA V, and now this, don't you just get tired of going up against popular movements and losing every single time?

Oh yeah, microtransaction makers are getting a stick up their ass, how horrible.

Oliver James
Oliver James

More like:
Yesterday it was gambling, today it's digital gambling

Nolan Baker
Nolan Baker

I don't care anymore, there's no good videogames being made, might as well enjoy seeing this worthless industry crash and burn.

Grayson Lewis
Grayson Lewis

the private citizen who runs EA tries to sell a product to a private citizen who plays games
the private citizen who plays games would like to purchase the product
the government steps in and tells them it's illegal
because "muh corporations"

Jose Rodriguez
Jose Rodriguez

Agree, what good is the economy if i can't even defend my household with my own McNuke™ Recreational Nuclear Warhead bought with the bitcoins i made by selling heroin to kindergarten prostitutes

Easton Morgan
Easton Morgan

(You)

Jordan Baker
Jordan Baker

Well in the case of ps plus and Xbox live they literally make you pay twice for your internet connection for almost no reason.

For instance, I pay once to play rainbow six siege online and connect to Ubisoft servers. In order to do that on PlayStation I need plus. How do you merit that fee?

And believing that these companies won't lean the way the games are played towards paid loot systems like battlefront 2 did is incredibly gullible.

Asher Watson
Asher Watson

Trump doesnt care about video games

Bentley Morales
Bentley Morales

YouTube video
not actually making a lawsuit

Wow great video user. You’re an awesome fucking person.

Easton Price
Easton Price

nobody on Sup Forums would be able to play overwatch anymore
Nice i like it

Luis Lopez
Luis Lopez

The government has been trying to control video games for decades why in the fuck would you think they'd stop the moment they finally got their foot in the door?

Brayden Mitchell
Brayden Mitchell

the private citizen who runs the bar tries to sell a product to an underage private citizen who drinks alcohol
the underage private citizen who drinks alcohol would like to purchase the product
the government steps in and tells them it's illegal
because "muh corporations"

Lucas Anderson
Lucas Anderson

the suffering in our economy mostly stems
from the persistant fallout of the 2008 financial collapse, an event caused by the deregulation of the banking and credit rating industries.

Joseph Hill
Joseph Hill

It's the same newshits who sided in favor of paid mods or banning mods in GTA V.
You can identify them because all their "arguments" rely on calling them numales, neckbeards and redditors, but there's no real argument besides going up against something popular.

Be glad nothing Sup Forums says is relevant.
It would be pretty hard for the 5 contrarians in here to convince others that EA and microtransactions are good.

Nathaniel Morris
Nathaniel Morris

the more you level up, the more exp it takes to level up. eventually it will take forever to level up so you won't get lootboxes as much anymore. this is all designed on purpose to get players to spend. it's mobile gaming tactics 101

Angel Hughes
Angel Hughes

If you don't want a Hurricane to destroy your neighborhood, you must support the guy that plays loud music at night
/r/catalog#s=eddit

Jaxson Cruz
Jaxson Cruz

Ultimately, all they do is give lip service to the government, giving an assurance that some sort of self-regulation is going on. You don't even need a rating just to sell your software, you just need to find a vendor that doesn't care about ratings as well. Even if they are that useless, at least what they do is to keep the government away from cooking up some retarded legislation. Remember that the government is bloated because all of its inefficient bureaucracy and will always take the path of least resistance. In this case, if you can convince the government that self-regulation is going on, then the government sees no reason to regulate directly.

Ethan Ward
Ethan Ward

So, do you have an answer for that question?

Austin Baker
Austin Baker

I realized how fucked everything kinda was when I finished typing that. All marketing is based on exploiting psychology. Fuck it I guess.

Grayson Butler
Grayson Butler

is Sup Forums full of children? Why are you all so irrationally araid of the government? Gaming is now the largest entertainment hobby, makes more than hollywood, wants to be treated as serious art, and is a part of the increasingly relevant digital infrastructure in our lives yet you guys also think that it is going to be completely free of government regulation forever?

Do you guys oppose Net Neutrality too because it involves the givernment stepping in?

Asher Perry
Asher Perry

So a cheaper Chuck E. Cheese?

Noah Lewis
Noah Lewis

it's not about voting
it's about realizing shit doesn't effect you if you have any kind of self control

Michael Turner
Michael Turner

#told

Juan Brooks
Juan Brooks

Because we have a fuckload of children misunderstanding what free market means.

Carson Parker
Carson Parker

Guns of icarus

Nathaniel Sanchez
Nathaniel Sanchez

I think it's just funny what a complete shitstorm EA has caused with this lootbox thing. It's almost like the TORtanic all over again.

Liam Brown
Liam Brown

Statist uprising when? I feel like breaking the NAP of some Lolbertarians.

Kevin Jones
Kevin Jones

this

Austin Mitchell
Austin Mitchell

is that loud music the only feasable way to draw away the hurricane at the moment?

Jaxon Sullivan
Jaxon Sullivan

enter your date of birth
1/1/1900
enjoy your lootboxes goy

Adam Moore
Adam Moore

Sorry, kiddo, but you gotta be 21 years of age if you looking to buy that new Reaper skin.

Jack Morgan
Jack Morgan

the private citizen who runs EA tries to sell a product to a private citizen who plays games
what the fuck does that even mean? Is this a scenario where the ceo of EA has a game that he personally owns and sell it to a friend? There are so many things wrong here i dont know where to even begin. And why would you even want to bother considering this dream situation anyway?

Jose Ross
Jose Ross

EA is a publically owned and traded company you mouth breather. There is nothing private about it.

Isaac Brown
Isaac Brown

so irrationally araif of the government
*Gets arrested for eating bacon*

Camden Gonzalez
Camden Gonzalez

Siege :^)

Samuel Perez
Samuel Perez

Giving Trump more control on what video games should be legal sure seems like a good idea:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/280812064539283457

Michael Brown
Michael Brown

This

Brandon Richardson
Brandon Richardson

you could have stopped at "because we have a fuckload of children"

this board has revealed itself to have more underage posters than even /co/

Landon Morris
Landon Morris

Be honest user, are you underage? Is that why you're so upset?

Grayson Smith
Grayson Smith

I don't want my video games getting the same treatment as Germany or Australia.

Cameron Price
Cameron Price

The only form of control is government control
Self regulation by a circle of representatives isn't control
Found the retard

Ryan Turner
Ryan Turner

I am perfectly willing to buy cosmetics in cash shop as long as I can actually choose the thing I want to buy

Oliver Williams
Oliver Williams

Who are you quoting?

Austin Johnson
Austin Johnson

Children, idiots, and corporate shills. Also a complex mixture of the dunning-kruger effect and autism. They're so ignorant of the facts that they think they're experts.

Kayden Davis
Kayden Davis

So video games are where you draw the line? Not any of the other egregious overreaches... but video games?

I guess it had to be drawn somewhere, I'm just kind of surprised that this was it.

Jason Rivera
Jason Rivera

the new generation who is in their low 20's was too young to be paying attention to politics during the bush years or before. The only political world they know is one where Obama was in power, things werent that great, and republicans screamed that anything and everything the (democratic) government was doing was to blame for all the worlds problems.

Oliver Cook
Oliver Cook

Well in that case I suppose World Of Warcraft looting system should be outlawed too.

How are they any different?

Jackson Morgan
Jackson Morgan

posts emotionally charged twitter link to any random article rather than anything giving context or actual information
expects to be treated seriously
so very, very full of children then

Samuel Ward
Samuel Ward

B-but EA is a good boy!
They did nothing wrong! T-this is just a blizzard campaign against them!
Well other than killing studios that underperformed with extremely cut funding, then shitting on them for not being as profitable as a full on pay-to-win other game they had (FIFA, who has had pay-to-win lootboxes FOR FUCKING YEARS NOW), shitting up entire series of franchises, being the most anti-consumer company on the planet, lying out of their asses on every occasion to save face, bribing moderators of specific websites (definitely not looking at you Sup Forums mods, nope.) with closed alpha invites so they can moderate and delete all content talking bad about them and just generally releasing not working,broken piece of shit games yeah they did nothing wrong.

Anything that helps getting EA removed from the video game industry (including a crash which is LONG overdue) can only mean a good thing.

Adam Watson
Adam Watson

the government isn't going to go to the mat for shit that affects video games anyway, they'll work with the ESRB to put loot boxes on the box along with alcohol violence etc, and set up some kind of fine and that'll be it and in the end loot boxes will remain until the bubble bursts and the big publishers move on to the next way to make big money

Jaxon Martin
Jaxon Martin

THE GOYIM KNOW!

Jackson Moore
Jackson Moore

age restriction

SINCE WHEN IN THE EVERLIVING FUCKS OF HELL ON EARTH HAS THAT EVER FUCKING WORKED FOR VIDEOGAMES?

Aiden Harris
Aiden Harris

Well he's probably autistic and cognitively isolated from anything beyond his four walls. As long as the problem isn't in his back yard or scope of interest it might as well not exist.

Daniel Morris
Daniel Morris

regulating loot boxes will literally make you go to jail for eating bacon
ok

Justin Harris
Justin Harris

How do you know so much about that guy? Maybe he disagreed with other overreach policy too but wasn't able to do anything about it where in this case he's closer to the issue.

Mason Martinez
Mason Martinez

Self regulation by a circle of representatives isn't contro
Not it isn't. There is no accountability to the consumers with self-regulation. Nearly all the fucking time, if they can cut corners, they will. Pic related.

Henry Walker
Henry Walker

Retard, I wish you'd get cancer and die

Lucas Fisher
Lucas Fisher

People getting arrested for eating bacon
Emotionally charged

Sebastian Long
Sebastian Long

god damn so many EA shills in one thread, must be cracking the whip today eh?

Christian Jackson
Christian Jackson

You don't have the option to pay money every monster you kill retard.

Joshua Hall
Joshua Hall

Gambling is the wagering of money or something of value (referred to as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning money or material goods.

Ian King
Ian King

BP literally did nothing wrong.

Easton Campbell
Easton Campbell

obvious underage redditor
in any case, if you want a serious answer:
It's lip service to keep any government-approved regulatory body from touching video games.

Josiah Hill
Josiah Hill

Anti-lootboxer doesn't get the point
I honestly don't know why I was expecting better from you

Christian Morris
Christian Morris

real slippery slope here. Bear in mind this lootbox drama only happened because people specifically got the attention of people in the government, they werent combing games for the next thing to restrict

Jeremiah Perry
Jeremiah Perry

You're retarded if you don't see how this will affect you in the future.

Jayden Ortiz
Jayden Ortiz

Because youre not paying real money when you /roll

Juan Butler
Juan Butler

Time = Real Money

Nolan Turner
Nolan Turner

Just redditors, reddit hates the government unless the government is fighting fascism for them while they sit on their asses whining about racism.

Jacob Rodriguez
Jacob Rodriguez

The intent of winning
With a lootbox you always win something, it's just not what you might have wanted.

Eli Rogers
Eli Rogers

Nice refutation. Can you explain how I'm wrong. Also don't use slippery slope like how points out.

Carson Fisher
Carson Fisher

leftists never stop. See trump for proof
If you give them an inch, they demand a mile

Robert King
Robert King

Can confirm, played gta when I was 10

Brody Brown
Brody Brown

playing a game is now gambling
You're pathetic EA

Easton Evans
Easton Evans

on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning money or material goods.
uncertain outcome
uncertain
fucking idiot

Logan Martin
Logan Martin

https://www.thelocal.se/20170901/no-a-man-was-not-convicted-in-sweden-for-eating-bacon
can people really not do a single bit of fucking googling? He was following them and yelling racial slurs at him and passing police noticed and intervened because it was obvious he was actively being a dick to a group of women. If the races were reversed you would be decrying the man as a filthy animal.

Leo Jenkins
Leo Jenkins

If you're going to sell cosmetics, at least let me choose what cosmetics I want to specifically buy. Locking this crap behind lootboxes is the most cancer thing ever. All I want is a $3 dress, not spend $20 for a chance to get it.

Adam Gonzalez
Adam Gonzalez

so it's not gambling if I play a slot machine will give me a sure $0.01 every time I lose

John Brown
John Brown

tfw you felt the bern, so you sent a geriatric commie your weed money and he ended up endorsing a candidate who he was told stole the primary from him and embodied everything he stood against, and then took all the weed money you and other NEET leftist trash gave him and bought another luxury home, this time on lake champlain, and a $180k luxury sport car, so now he has 4 luxury homes in expensive and exclusive areas, and a bunch of expensive cars while you're living in your childhood bedroom and driving a beat up 20 year old honda civic while bitching about the man who won the election and is giving us record labor pool participation rates and breaking stock market records almost every day

Mason Bennett
Mason Bennett

no, this post is dumb

what do leftists have to do with anything?

what does looking at trump prove? Because im not seeing any recent controversies where he is the one who's sympathetic

I actually dont know what you're saying

Luis Clark
Luis Clark

Why do americans think getting screwed by corporations is a god given right?

Jason Sanders
Jason Sanders

Life is gambling. Outlawing lootbox is just the first step to deathcamps

Tyler Green
Tyler Green

Casinos pay heavy taxes, putting money back into the community. So why not EA? Doesn't matter what kind of gambling it is, the profit they are making is just as real.

Bentley Cooper
Bentley Cooper

What about that time they forced Origin’s employees to move to a new location after Ultima 9 flopped, forcing some of them to leave their families behind?

Michael Parker
Michael Parker

why not just sell complete game like on console ?
The pseudo free games that in the end costs more than traditional quality games is pure cancer and it needs to die.

Luke Rivera
Luke Rivera

Honestly, the only reason why i didn't do it is because I already knew where it would end (the guy was doing so in a muslim neighbourhood in the middle of the street, in the entrance to a mosque, etc.)

It's amazing how whenever these guys try to prove a point they prove the opposite point instead.

Sebastian Jones
Sebastian Jones

you are right i dont get the point. I mean i guess you could have been intending to say some regulation on lootboxes on games leads down a slippery slope where the government gains more power and........institutes a pro-muslim agenda? No no never mind you really do have to explain it because i have no idea how the 2 are connected

Evan Perry
Evan Perry

?

Ian Harris
Ian Harris

Trump is a leftist who run for the republicans. Until recently he was even a member of the democrat.

Nolan Howard
Nolan Howard

The slight difference is that most of the goodwill of the people are on the side of the ESRB. Outside of a few hiccups with localization, they've mostly been liberal with their ratings, and generally fair to the contentment of the American people, much moreso than the pegi system, what with their "High impact sexual violence" on otherwise rated E games.
I have a feeling you quoted the wrong person.

Aaron Baker
Aaron Baker

Because muh freedumbs.

Colton Collins
Colton Collins

breaking stock market records almost every day
healthy economy
This is your brain on /pol/.

Jordan Murphy
Jordan Murphy

you don't think the primary people pushing this aren't liberal?
It's literally a reddit campaign

Ian Collins
Ian Collins

this exactly. I'd be surprised if anyone in the thread crying about this was older than 20

Tyler Morgan
Tyler Morgan

WHY. DO. THEY. KEEP. USING. OVERSHIT. LOOTBOXES? OVER.SHIT. IS. NOT. A. GOOD. EXAMPLE. OF LOOT.BOXES. I. HAVE. 80%. OF OVER.SHIT. SKINS. BY. SIMPLY. PLAYING. THE. GAME. AND. YOU. CAN'T. TRADE. SKINS. W.T.F!
WHY. DON'T. THEY. SHOW. TF2. LOOT.BOXES. VALVE. WAS. FIRST. FAGGOTS. TO. PUSH. THEM.
BLIZZARD.DID.NOTHING.WRONG!

Nicholas Kelly
Nicholas Kelly

Retard your ignoring the fact that you aren't always winning. The intent of winning means that it isn't a certainty. This means that you can lose.

Jeremiah Bell
Jeremiah Bell

casinos are regulated
all it does is to make them even more specialized in squeezing out whale types
Get real, mongoloids, the government just wants its share of the plunder to feed itself, if anything it's quite likely that games will go even deeper into lootbox type faggotry.

Josiah Price
Josiah Price

breaking stock market records almost every day

Tha ks for making the rich richer Trump. In other news, minimum wage still unlivable and poverty rates rising.

What an idiot.

Gabriel Bailey
Gabriel Bailey

Well, I'm not against underage drinking

Chase Young
Chase Young

Trump is a leftist
then why does every act and oppinion he takes / has is the opposite of leftism?

That's the thing though, a huge part of having access freedom is about not being curbstomped in any matters where anyone has more power than you. This is why the government is split in 3 powers, this is why consumer rights exist and so on, it's asinie to expect a individual (or even a multitude of individuals) to win a confrontation with an actually organized institution, be it public or private

Isaiah Williams
Isaiah Williams

/pol/ is just controlled opposition now

Ayden Bennett
Ayden Bennett

this is how you spot a liberal, they say stupid shit like this

Adam Thompson
Adam Thompson

See

Chase Perry
Chase Perry

It has always been, /pol/'s discourse always ended in american way of life apologetics.

Kayden Davis
Kayden Davis

Can I have a food analogy instead?

Austin Phillips
Austin Phillips

the government just wants its share of the plunder to feed itself,
and it's better for the government to feed from casinos and EA than from me
that's the point you imbeciles

Gavin Bailey
Gavin Bailey

/v/ are now goverment apologists

how fucking sad

Matthew Davis
Matthew Davis

Then you're pretty much disregarding the "uncertainty" part of the definition, you asshat.

Parker Robinson
Parker Robinson

The government won't just stick its fingers in the biggest pie, it'll try to stick its fingers into every pie.

John Moore
John Moore

Is a kinder egg gambling?

Colton Torres
Colton Torres

So, is winning a car in a lottery not gambling?

Christian Green
Christian Green

guberment is the problem
Go away, Ancap.

Ayden Green
Ayden Green

And shitty devs doing this shitty practice will suffer economically.

Win-win.

Samuel Cruz
Samuel Cruz

And if they have to pay 20% tax or whatever it's not like the costumers will be paying for it.

Asher Nguyen
Asher Nguyen

See what happens when you don't do your job ESRB?
This could've been prevented, but no you had to be money hungry.

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross

So he couldn't get it banned? So it
s not gambling then?

Leo Myers
Leo Myers

no he isnt, he's just wishy washy. he doesnt have opinions, he just says what he needs to in the moment to get praise

i dont think reddit is liberal with the sheer amount of /pol/ tier board equivalents (or whatever its called) that site has nowadays. But no I also dont think the push for this is political

Chase Mitchell
Chase Mitchell

point one was changed a while ago.
now level 1-20 are quick, but once you prestige its the same exp per level. However, the total amount of exp from level x01 to the next prestige is the same.
I got every item I wanted and then some by the time I got a silver border. There's some event items I'm missing but I could honestly give a fat fuck about a crappy Mei skin.

Haven't spent anything on the game at all, and wouldn't for some fucking skins.

Nathaniel Gray
Nathaniel Gray

Ignore the shitposters of /pol/ and you'll actually find decent discussion. You know, just like any other fucking board.

Cameron Torres
Cameron Torres

Because that totally happened with M rated games right?

Landon Williams
Landon Williams

Kinder egg is illegal in America.

Evan Sanchez
Evan Sanchez

I I had a dollar for everytime some ancap cunt told me to go to Cuba or Venezuela or whatever, I wouldn't even care about lootboxes, but you never see any ancaps praising Somalia. Why is that?

Ayden Ramirez
Ayden Ramirez

not because of gambling but because it poses a choking hazard for kids

Isaac Foster
Isaac Foster

that kid whose mom wouldn't let him play GTA

Anthony Miller
Anthony Miller

Because Somalia was actively destroyed by decades of socialist government like most of Africa.

James Perry
James Perry

we go out of our way to keep stupid people alive and then scratch our heads as to what is causing the nose dive in intelligence levels

Ayden Lopez
Ayden Lopez

Too many dumb people here, holy shit help me what the fuck.

The point of lootbox isn't that you have the choice, it's that the developer has got a mandate from the publisher to rig the game and design every single level to make it so you have no choice to buy lootboxes else your experience is lousy if not terrible. "you can avoid them" is the stupidest fucking thing ever said about videogaming, because you could avoid paid online, you could avoid dlc, you could avoid everything bad, that doesn't mean others will nor that the publishers will stop pushing it.

Remember when you said dlc wasn't a big deal and then we literally ended up with half game cut at launch? Sometimes we have to stop you because we know what's good for you better than you do.

Charles Hall
Charles Hall

You're not allowed to put plastic inside of food in America like that

Alexander Wilson
Alexander Wilson

All games that include lootboxes have to be +18
Implying publishers will commit money suicide
If they push for +18 games to be accepted however, then that means Steam can start hosting porn games.

Jaxson Harris
Jaxson Harris

But every government is socialist for ancaps, doesn't it mean that by this situation alone all possibility of anarchocapitalism has ended?

Adam Ward
Adam Ward

Whelp, the camel has gotten his nose into the tent. Soon anything with sexiness or violence will require you to be over 21. The SJWs must be celebrating.

Joseph Torres
Joseph Torres

I want to see every /pol/tard lined up and shot.

Joseph Jenkins
Joseph Jenkins

you know this industry is fucked when people accept preordering DLC for a game that's not out yet.

like why not delay the game so you can put the DLC in?

Jonathan Morris
Jonathan Morris

Lets turn it around, then. What would you consider "winning". If I roll and got nothing but a bunch of duplicates that I don't need, I'd probably be pissed of and wouldn't consider myself a winner. Besides, the value is already determined in-game. Those rarity levels aren't there for nothing.

Lincoln Cooper
Lincoln Cooper

most of africa got destroyed by other countries taking their resorces for decades though. Like definitely they are partly to blame for their situation but leaving out that part is a rather large omission

Liam Ortiz
Liam Ortiz

Sometimes we have to stop you because we know what's good for you
we

Levi Martin
Levi Martin

Fuck off SJW cunt. Buy a gun and blow your tiny brain out.

Isaac Ross
Isaac Ross

capitalism as a economy model wouldn't work without stupid people. the whole system revolves around tricking dumb people.

Kevin Cox
Kevin Cox

Lootboxes are bad in a single game, more games with lootboxes is definitely worse than less games with lootboxes. If lootboxes are successful, marketing research states more games would use it.

Kayden Fisher
Kayden Fisher

protecting a literal 7 year old kid from choking to death accidentally is the same as keeping some she-boon on welfare alive
You can't expect every person to know every single harmful thing possible

and don't give me "but loot boxes are harmful :) i luv cock"

Levi Wood
Levi Wood

overwatch
shadow of war
battlefront 2

RISKY GAMES

jesus christ

Christian Evans
Christian Evans

Battlefront 2 will have the same rating as eden*
I find that quite hilarious

Cooper Lee
Cooper Lee

14 year old can't open loot crates with his favorite streamer anymore

Grayson Wilson
Grayson Wilson

bitching about minimum wage

You're either too young to post on this site or you're an illegal immigrant.

Nicholas Perry
Nicholas Perry

When is the government going to ban these child incentive gambling devices?

Eli Perez
Eli Perez

/v/ now love comunism and hate free market

Luis Diaz
Luis Diaz

You wouldn't want them to have to make Battlefront 2 appeal to a wider audience, would you user?

William Jones
William Jones

like what happened to movies and tv right? Die Hard 4 was all snowflakes just because you couldnt say the word fuck and Family Guy is rated R

Carson Wright
Carson Wright

I don't mind cosmetics, I do mind not being able to buy them and instead having to fucking gamble for the one you want though.

Fuck blizzard and every other greedy fucking company doing this.

Overwatch has 30 million players, they don't need to pad their cosmetic sales by forcing people to pay hundreds instead of $20 it would cost if you could straigth up buy them.

Connor Thomas
Connor Thomas

It was literally a marxist-leninist dictatorship that lasted for decades.
Patently false, Africa had far less people living in misery right at the end of colonialism. USSR-backed commies took over most of the countries and ran everything to the ground like they always do, which coupled with the spread of AIDS sent everything to hell.

Eli Moore
Eli Moore

25 cents for a physical toy or candy is a lot easier to manage than dropping $3 on a digital lootbox

Jason Campbell
Jason Campbell

Fair enough.

They both result in more stupid people. The difference between the two idiots is purely semantic. If you're seven years old and don't yet know how not to choke to death on a plastic toy, odds are you're going to be a welfare liability as an adult.

Jose Rodriguez
Jose Rodriguez

general population, politicians, and media speaking out against loot boxes
Why do I suddenly feel like taking the opposing side now and backing the corporate practices? I should be happy about what's happening.

Nicholas Anderson
Nicholas Anderson

When you don't win the lottery, do you get a consolation prize the worth of your money spent?

Julian Russell
Julian Russell

Free market means corporations are allowed to be predatory shitstains that take advantage of children

Gavin Hill
Gavin Hill

Steam will never host porn games for the same reason Netflix's doesn't host porn.

The slight gain in sales will be completely offset by parents avoiding the platform.

Jayden Mitchell
Jayden Mitchell

wanting corporations to be the new government
See, I can go to extremes too.

Nathan Torres
Nathan Torres

A quarter would get you a gumball, most of the toy vending machines are $.75-$1.25, and either way it's still "gambling"

Andrew Ward
Andrew Ward

Free market is litteraly this you mongo

Matthew Gonzalez
Matthew Gonzalez

False equivalence, you pay directly for the reward, there's no game involved. Here, I'll help you with a proper gambling devices:

Imagine if you could pick nothing with the standard game, or claw, but you could pay 2.99 to have the chance of the claw spreading wider and lunging even further, if it doesn't happen then you still have your shot at picking absolutely nothing with the regular claw.

Dylan Campbell
Dylan Campbell

And what if there is one? Suddenly it's not gambling?

Kevin Hernandez
Kevin Hernandez

ITT Americans who have been brainwashed by jews to equate a company being forbidden from fucking over their costumers with the loss of right. Keep defending my corporation goy. First they cut into our proffits, the. They take your guns and fuck your wife.

Luke Smith
Luke Smith

you're implying im only talking about up until the end of colonialism when neo-colonialism is alive and thriving even today. even the idea of giving aid to countries is purely a front to make more money off of them. Sure, communism sucks but capitalism is also definitely also to blame here

Henry Thomas
Henry Thomas

nu-parent millenials and late gen x'ers
caring about video game ratings
Nice mene

Jackson Ramirez
Jackson Ramirez

taking their resources
Still one of the most, if not the most resource rich continent on the planet
countries like japan with actual sod all for natural resources still thrive

Africa is a complete shit show and the problems down there have nothing to do with how much resources are buried under those god forsaken countries

Cooper Morales
Cooper Morales

You forgot to add the part where you buy the claw machine at full price before any of this happens.

Logan Reed
Logan Reed

hey that's my wife you're posting, buddy

Carter Wilson
Carter Wilson

not realizing that they already are

Jaxon Campbell
Jaxon Campbell

yes, you have correctly pointed out that the world is a complex place and a lot of competing factors come together to explain why things happen

Anthony Foster
Anthony Foster

corporations will take your guns, trust the government!!

Angel Moore
Angel Moore

... and?

Benjamin Wright
Benjamin Wright

real gambling would be putting 25 cents in a candy machine and a minigame plays, if you don't win then you don't get candy.

these vending machines always guarantee you a prize worth the value you put in so it's not gambling

Jaxon Sanchez
Jaxon Sanchez

Characters with nice tits don't harm women IRL whereas lootboxes are cancer and need to be purged.

Luis Cook
Luis Cook

If sexy games were made 18+ I'd be fine since I'm not an underage fuck.

Asher Diaz
Asher Diaz

my point was simply that the amount of resources in africa is irrelevant, since they have lots and still manage to be dirt poor and backwards, squandering what they have

Kevin Butler
Kevin Butler

You just wasted "Real Money" making this post

Ethan Brooks
Ethan Brooks

We don't have Viacom owned district with Viacom mandated laws, yet.

William Richardson
William Richardson

No, neo-colonialism is the term used for 19th century colonialism (as opposed to earlier 16th century and onward colonization of the "Indies") including the partition of Africa. I'm also not saying that everything was rosy and fine in Africa before but it's quite clearly a case of commies and their reverse-Midas touch, just look at the Asian countries that got their independence and didn't do whacky economics for comparison, instead embracing the free market.

Zachary Sanchez
Zachary Sanchez

And what are them now?

Cooper Wood
Cooper Wood

There is no winning. You always get 4 items of at least common quality. Winning would be determined by what you want from the loot box whether it be legendaries or items for a specific character.

Nathaniel Walker
Nathaniel Walker

Actually, quite similar to what happened to movies. This is just the first step.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code

Anthony Wood
Anthony Wood

Hong Kong

Elijah Morales
Elijah Morales

When you're over 21 and this entire tirade from poors is irrelevant.

Gavin Russell
Gavin Russell

Is it of the same value as your exchange for a ticket.

Alexander King
Alexander King

hahahaha fuck corporations

Anthony Russell
Anthony Russell

the government will take your guns, trust the corporations!!

Josiah Campbell
Josiah Campbell

There is a distinct difference here. The current ratings system isn't upheld by any law, it's self-regulated. Having an age-rating mandated by law forces stores to pay closer attention, and demands more rigorous age checks for digital purchases.

Kayden Torres
Kayden Torres

I fully trust both corporations and the government to do the right thing.

Xavier Green
Xavier Green

I don't even know what video games ARE anymore. I feel like the concept got away from me at some point.

Grayson Wilson
Grayson Wilson

someone post the pic where someone spent $2000 on micro transactions.

Julian Ross
Julian Ross

There has never been a 100% free market like there has never been tr00 communism, but it is quite clear that attempts at implementing free markets have consistently yielded astounding results while attempts at having a planned economy have always resulted in collapse and suffering.

Thomas Howard
Thomas Howard

the lower and middle classes are still doing as shitty as ever with wages mostly stagnant while the rich are richer than ever before and as you said the stock market is hitting all time highs. A small number of people who make up a huge portion of the total economy are doing fantastic while the rest of us get our jobs shipped over to India and are forced into a shitty job that forces us to care about the minimum wage again.

America is the richest country in the history of humanity and yet the majority of its population struggle to make it. Thats the problem

Bentley Thomas
Bentley Thomas

Sounds more like a problem with broadcasters than with the government or regulatory bodies.
Regulators simply categorize films/games into age ranges, blame walmart for refusing to stock AO games

Eli Long
Eli Long

Me neither, I'm transitioning into reading as a primary hobby now. Luckily I was a dumb shit as a kid so I haven't read any classic literature and I can start damn near anywhere and it's all extraordinarily interesting.

Blake Bailey
Blake Bailey

They did change what "it" was.

John Hernandez
John Hernandez

We should celebrate and allow predatory practices because it's FREEDOM

David Fisher
David Fisher

Yeah because eating a chocolate egg only to find out as you're swallowing that it had a giant piece of hard plastic inside it makes someone soooo stupid

you're the kind of person they put crosswalk buttons in cities for

Nathan Russell
Nathan Russell

We told you cunts to quit being retards with shit like this and you wouldn't stop. If only lawmakers could somehow be targeted at preordering too.

Daniel Nguyen
Daniel Nguyen

Needs a little more context here. Yeah i know btc went nuts, but how many did james have?

Robert Miller
Robert Miller

By that age, 7 year olds should know that swallowing a giant piece of plastic is a bad idea

Jordan Perry
Jordan Perry

and my point was that the idea that they still have resorces and arent developed compared to japan is irrelevant to my point as many other factors come into play and I never stated it is the only reason, just impossible to ignore.

the idea that taking their resorces for centuries, including human captal (people for slaves) completely halting their economy and development to funnel cash into other countries, creating a dependency on these countries to function has effects that is literally impossible to just ignore

this I have no real comeback to because you're more or less right and I cant pretend to know the specifics of every group that went to africa so I'll take your word for it. Though I'd argue that the term is still used to describe stuff happening today (i'd know since i live in a place where it happens, but not africa)

Adam Taylor
Adam Taylor

Corporations can't take your guns though. They don't have a monopoly of force.

Samuel Martinez
Samuel Martinez

asking inane questions
You're just being obtuse just to drag this out much longer.
inb4 muh simple yes or no question
If it was as simple as you say, you can use your own common fucking sense. If, for some reason, you're really as stupid as I have assumed, then the consolation prize would always be greater than or equal to the prize of the ticket. Using common sense, you would know that this question would've been pointless if I answered otherwise.

Asher Rivera
Asher Rivera

have you considered not buying these games?

Cooper Long
Cooper Long

Good thing you know it's hidden in there because 7 year olds know exactly what a kinderegg is when they see a chocolate shell

Camden Sanchez
Camden Sanchez

The ESRB are the industry. They looked into this shit and shockingly said it was okay. Now they're going to pay the price.

Ryder Morgan
Ryder Morgan

Things aren't the same as back then. There are literal paid shills defending lootboxes and functioning as anti-piracy advocates regurgitating talking points online. The competitive meta for market manipulation is vastly different now because everyone is more familiar with internet communications.

Austin Gray
Austin Gray

Stop pretending to care about children

Sebastian Ward
Sebastian Ward

no they just want to sell you more by telling you the government will take them. Theres a reason gun manufacturers stocks go up after a mass shooting.

Landon Jackson
Landon Jackson

Nanny-staters don't understand the notion of "choice and consequence", they see life as something premade in a factory that is packaged and shipped to them with clear instructions.

Grayson Torres
Grayson Torres

this isn't going to be a law that is going to expanded upon nigh on forever, like EVER. OTHER. LAW. THAT. HAS. EXISTED.

no sire, get government involved, this is going to turn out just fine down the line, hmhmm.

Owen Harris
Owen Harris

if the parents of these children aren't going to give a shit about predatory practices then why should I?

Jaxson Baker
Jaxson Baker

not chewing your god damned food

It's as though everything the rest of the world says about American dietary habits are true.

Luke Sanchez
Luke Sanchez

What's wrong with libertarians?

Mason Gray
Mason Gray

you'd be surprised how chewable these toys in kinder eggs are.

Connor Phillips
Connor Phillips

listen retard, when the game becomes 90% lootboxes like some f2p mmorpg, things need to change. and seeing as how companies arent going to change on their own because after 20 years they realized making casino boxes is way more profitable than making actual games, some big dick government fucking is exactly how 'we' can get that changed so these faggots will go back to making real videogames again.

Charles Rogers
Charles Rogers

If the lottery gave a refund to everyone who lost it wouldn't be gambling.

Tyler Cooper
Tyler Cooper

Have you considered that children are less likely to make sound decisions and that these companies create games that introduce microtransactions after a certain time or point in the game, just so to make judging games harder for parents?

Jaxson White
Jaxson White

No it hasn't. That all began with the Trump campaign.

Jaxson Martinez
Jaxson Martinez

I knew how kinder eggs worked when I was 4. And the plastic capsule inside the chocolate is huge and very obviously non-edible.

Jacob Carter
Jacob Carter

the idea that taking their resorces for centuries, including human captal (people for slaves) completely halting their economy and development to funnel cash into other countries
The slave trade was the backbone of many an african nation. It's actually what made them remotely successful before the partitioning of africa and abolition of slavery.

Wealthy Africans weren't best pleased about abolition since they were the ones selling the slaves. We weren't taking, but buying the resources.

Africa was a wealthy continent before socialism took hold. It just spiraled into chaos after European powers left due to socialism.

South Africa is pretty much on the brink, and Rhodesia is a prime example. Formerly very rich countries that have collapsed or now struggle to not implode due to communistic policies.
Otherwise africa was seriously on the up-and-up after European powers left.

Levi Lee
Levi Lee

It's scum from /pol/ who defend this shit. They just happen to use Sup Forums as another board to vomit their garbage without moderation, just like on /tv/.

Isaac Miller
Isaac Miller

As if the government will see anything beyond just another opportunity to feed itself on delicious taxes, guess what casinos are already "regulated" and all it does is to make them squeeze players and prey on whales harder. All that this is going to make is to cause games to become even more casinofied, full of RNG and microtransactions everywhere.

Nicholas Smith
Nicholas Smith

/v/ is surprised that Sup Forums will cheer anything that will screw AAA publishers
It's like some of you assholes don't want another crash.

Jordan Parker
Jordan Parker

Just finished writing my governor and senators about this. I was sure to call them gambling like instead of straight up gambling so they can't say it isn't gambling by the legal definition. Included links to articles and videos showing the addictive psychology behind them. Feels beautiful.

Chase Russell
Chase Russell

Hasn't Sup Forums been worried about shills since when Borderlands 1 came out? That was before I was here, but I saw screencaps about how Borderlands 1 was apparently shilled here.

Benjamin Perez
Benjamin Perez

just buy nintendo games. they have none of this casino lootbox shit

Elijah Garcia
Elijah Garcia

It's true, children can be very irresponsible with money.
Have you considered not linking a credit card to your child's online account?

Easton Fisher
Easton Fisher

1999
ultima online
want to dye your 'cosmetics'? no problem. go buy a dye tub that gave you access to literally the entire color specturm from an npc for 1 gold

2017
want to dye your 'cosmetics'? no problem. go to the cash shop, spend real money on monopoly money, exchange that for a loot box which will give you a chance at getting a single fucking dye for a random color
THIS IS BETTER, FREE MAREKTS HURR DURR DURR

shit pisses me off so much. an entire generation of morons have been groomed to believe that 'cosmetics' belong in cash shops because that's 'fair'. No nigger, pay your 10/20/30/60 dollars for your fucking video game and get everything. thats fair. being nickled and dimed, kiked and jewed for basic shit is not fair, its not fun, and its not acceptable.

Brandon Sanchez
Brandon Sanchez

wait what, how is Walmart allowed to refuse doing that, Jerry Lewis got his ass handed to him in court because he refused to show nothing but family friendly films at his movie theaters, and it ended up with him having to close it all down.

why is Walmart allowed to do this, how is refusing to stock AO games any different.

David Sullivan
David Sullivan

people stopped buying slaves early on once they ran out and started just kidnapping the people, including the people wo were selling slaves, and they only sold them because african slavery is completely different from european chattel slavery and they were completely unaware just how harsh it was until it was too late

Owen Jenkins
Owen Jenkins

Sup Forums now hate capitalism

Lincoln Bell
Lincoln Bell

Soul Calibur

Mason Perry
Mason Perry

knowing that mentioning anything other than refunds would defeat your argument
lol
continuing to be obtuse
Imagine if the lottery were giving out ketchup bottles as consolation prizes and the tickets would cost less than those ketchup bottles but you already have a rack at home full of ketchup bottles so you don't need/want any more of them.

Brayden Sanchez
Brayden Sanchez

to be fair, the last time it really did anything was the Bell breakup in the 90s, and now AT&T is more powerful than Bell ever was

Henry Edwards
Henry Edwards

it will only restrict the US player base not other countries

Michael Hernandez
Michael Hernandez

Have you considered that both of these are a product of the market, and that if you want one and not the other you just choose to play UO instead?

Jordan Jones
Jordan Jones

making games have top decide whether they want casino elements or to sell to kids is going to cause WAY more casino elements to appear everywhere in all games
i really dont follow your logic at all. I get your "government ruins everything" mentality, but in this instance it just doesnt make any sense

Jace Richardson
Jace Richardson

I love capitalism. I cashed out all my cryptocurrency and now I'm living comfy smoking all the bud I can in cali.

Tyler Gray
Tyler Gray

the less kids in gaming the better. kids are stupid and have shit taste. maybe now we can get closer to making good games again

Ryan Powell
Ryan Powell

How long have lootboxes been a thing in videogames? Maybe almost a decade now? Retards kept eating all the shit shoveled in their mouth, despite protestations from other people who play vidya. But no, the retards kept eating shit, government intervention is the direct result of people doing fuck all to stop garbage p2w lootboxes.

Robert Price
Robert Price

ameribux are not monopoly money

Tyler Ward
Tyler Ward

bait

Joshua Rodriguez
Joshua Rodriguez

Have you considered that that wouldn't be a necessary precaution if corporations weren't allowed to be dickbags?

Isaac Powell
Isaac Powell

letting government dictate what content games can have

They are already allowed to do this in Germany and everything is censored. Fuck off.

Hawaii is a massive nanny state. Shit gun laws, extremely high sin taxes and you need to be 21 to smoke.

Kevin Wright
Kevin Wright

Yes because EA would be ok with their games getting an AO.

Wyatt Watson
Wyatt Watson

If I had a time machine and could send this thread to 2012 Sup Forums, back when people on Sup Forums were laughing about stuff like the TORtanic, the Mass Effect 3 blunders, and EA's stocks falling, I think people from back then would have a fit over what Sup Forums is like now.

Joshua Perry
Joshua Perry

vote with your wallet doesn't work when some rich retard can spend $10.000 on lootboxes alone

Carson Morgan
Carson Morgan

unchecked capitalism is good

Dont get me wrong capitalism is great, but it needs a little government intervention here and there.

William Allen
William Allen

THE GOVERNMENT HAS ALWAYS INTERVENED WITH THE FREE MARKET, BY REGULATION FUNDED BY CORPORATE LOBBYISTS.
Fuck I hate you /pol/tards, with every ounce of my being. All you do is try to take thr moral group while defending your corporate overlords who would work you to death if it were legal. you are fucking scum.

David Lewis
David Lewis

You'd be a shitty parent, and an absolute fucking idiot of a person if you'd trust a child with a large pool of money.

Jacob Murphy
Jacob Murphy

I worded it poorly, to be more precise this will do literally nothing to games as a whole (so some devs will still opt out of it simply during the design conception as they normally would have), while the publishers that want to have casino elements will just go even deeper into it and at the end of the day this regulation will do literally nothing other than feeding a group of fat government employees.

James Diaz
James Diaz

Africa was a wealthy continent before socialism took hold. It just spiraled into chaos after European powers left due to socialism.
I like how this statement jsut casually glosses over about 100 years of colonialism and the comically bad redrawing of the national boundaries after WW2 that have directly lead to a good deal of the conflicts going on.

You talk like someone who knows his history but then just leave out what doesnt suit your narrative

Isaac Reyes
Isaac Reyes

They are already allowed to do this in Germany and everything is censored
You do realise most people don't live in an authoritarian shithole like you?

James Young
James Young

be freedom loving American
have 20,000 laws for gun ownership alone
collect rainwater
get arrested
grow plants
get arrested
refuse to give your child burgers
lose custody
refuse to bake a cake
pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in a lawsuit
But as soon as somebody tries to take action against gambling in childrens games that's government overreach and suddenly they care about freedom.

Landon Lee
Landon Lee

So don't let children have access to your credit card retard. It's your fault completely.

M-MUH CHILLUNS

Literally the justification for every nanny state bullshit.

Liam Ortiz
Liam Ortiz

being so contratard that now you shill for lootboxes and microtransactions

Kevin Nguyen
Kevin Nguyen

niggers weren't genociding one another before whitey showed up

Camden Russell
Camden Russell

And corporation alway win in the free market

Brayden Scott
Brayden Scott

WE

Jonathan Wilson
Jonathan Wilson

I think that was a part of the discovery phase. Now it's the meta, and companies that don't engage fall behind. It's a part of politics, music, movies, you name it. Any online discussion arena considered large enough has corporate interlopers.

Benjamin Howard
Benjamin Howard

have 20,000 laws for gun ownership alone
As Lib, I wish that were true.

Asher Hill
Asher Hill

Colonialism might not have been "good" but it's a historically documented fact that Africa was much better after it ended before commies took over. Again look at Asia, most of Southeast Asia is a bunch of randomly drawn borders and it took quite a different path from Africa.

Jace Lewis
Jace Lewis

100 years of colonialism
You can't really blame colonialism for them still living in mudhuts before colonialism reached them.

Liam Evans
Liam Evans

All these assblasted naysayers being fucking WOKED because they are realizing they lost
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

Hunter Bell
Hunter Bell

You do realize that giving government more power they'll end up taking more eventually? I want the government to fuck off from my games. They are unregulated and that's why I don't have to deal with massive censorship unlike countries where the government CAN dictate game content such as Australia.

Lucas Walker
Lucas Walker

Now im not familiar with the legal aspects of it 100%, but wouldnt a gaming commission have to get involved to declare something gambling before any sort of gambling-related legislation could take effect? What effect would Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association have on this law?

Eli Anderson
Eli Anderson

What is teaching responsibility and the value of money

Eli Bell
Eli Bell

As far as I understand the opposite is true. Whereas European traders initially tried to kidnap slaves, it was found to be far safer and simpler and more profitable to set up coastal trading posts where slaves could be bought from the African interior where Europeans didn't really venture.

Also, I hope you're not insinuating that the European slave trade was somehow worse than other slave trades. In scope and brutality, the European slave trade doesn't even border on close to what Africans and Arabs were already doing in Africa.

Grayson Ward
Grayson Ward

We don't live in a free market you fucking ape america was always a mixed market and businesses have to follow rules set by the government. Fuck do you not have highschool right now?

Ethan Edwards
Ethan Edwards

Slippery slope argument

Zachary Watson
Zachary Watson

that is an interesting concept and certainly something to watch for in the future, but then is the arguement that we shouldnt fix the problem we have today with the most effective tool we have at our disposal because we fear some later unseeable repercussion down the line? I agree i dont want casino elements embedded deeper in games, but i don't think that fear should stop us from dealing with the busllshit in the here and now.

im also curious, what government employees would get fat off a law regarding the sale of games with lootboxes to children? How does that line a government employees pocket and by how much? Im very curious

Ethan Garcia
Ethan Garcia

free exchange of money is for cucks

Julian James
Julian James

Then this whole shitstorm over microtransactions wouldn't be an issue, but that's not the case, is it?

Aaron Ross
Aaron Ross

The thing is majority of america agrees with you we live in a fucking mixed market economy. But most posters here don't seem to know much about anything that is not a meme

Noah Moore
Noah Moore

muh slip on the slope

Jordan Bell
Jordan Bell

slippery slope is always false

Educate yourself dumbfuck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope#Non-fallacious_usage

In countries where the government can regulate game content, they have censored many games.

Alexander Adams
Alexander Adams

I hope you get run over by a car and bleed to death in the emergency waiting room due to lack of proper healthcare.

Evan Murphy
Evan Murphy

We don't live in a free market faggot

Owen Evans
Owen Evans

Do you expect the entire world to watch out for your children?
If you aren't going to, why should anyone else?

Angel Jenkins
Angel Jenkins

fix the problem we have today
Because there isn't a problem in the first place, laws about "saving peple from themselves" are idiotic. Just let fools gamble because it's what fools do.

what government employees would get fat off a law regarding the sale of games with lootboxes to children
Um, the exact same ones that will be working in the regulatory agency designed for this specific regulation? Isn't that self-evident?

Xavier Rivera
Xavier Rivera

There is alway another way
American government is a fucking joke

Ayden Brooks
Ayden Brooks

Everybody is beating the wet dog here..

Forcing publishers to label their game as 18+ in case they want to include lootboxes.. is not too bad. They will need to re-evaluate their system, and choose if they wish to go for a guaranteed loss (Rated M/ 18+), or just stop abusing and introducing shitty gamble schemes, which do not belong into a video game anyways.

Robert Carter
Robert Carter

It's alright, I have a voluntary agreement with my healthcare provider, I'm sure they'll look after me, unless the government stops them.

Jace Perry
Jace Perry

I'm saying that the microtransaction practices make that lesson much harder to teach to your child, because whereas without them your child might maybe buy something silly once, and then you could make that an example of irresponsible use of money. But with them, your child can keep purchasing things because it is made so easy through these games, and your lesson could end up costing you a serious sum of money.

Wyatt Collins
Wyatt Collins

American
Go away.

Owen Torres
Owen Torres

outliers
representative of most governments
Stop comparing apples to oranges. Germany is a special case of governance running amok. It's in your dumbass culture.

Jayden Flores
Jayden Flores

Nigga shut the fuck up you did not even know what a mixed market was until i made your ass google it like 3 seconds ago. Get your dumb ass back to class.

Fucking ridiculous

Josiah Cox
Josiah Cox

yep, EA etc have too much money for something like that

I expect that games with gambling elements will get their own unique label just to avoid the AO. I imagine it'll be a cutesy vectored stamp depicting poker chips overlayed with "contains gambling elements" in as tiny a font as is legal

Lincoln Bell
Lincoln Bell

Yes we do. Mixed market are social democracies which America ISN'T. Our economy is a free market one. Read a fucking book.

Aiden Johnson
Aiden Johnson

Look if the lottery gave all losers a slurpee equivalent to the value of a ticket and the winner happens to win a cash prize the lottery could be profitable and have "muh randomized chance of winning". It wouldn't be gambling, it would be a sweepstakes. A lootbox is like a microcosm of a sweepstakes.

Justin Foster
Justin Foster

outliers

Nigger in the vast majority of countries games are unregulated. In games where the government CAN regulate game content they have censored games multiple times. Kill yourself brainlet cunt.

Julian Scott
Julian Scott

No, it's legacy Sup Forums. The guys that want no amount of government regulation in their vidya. Also good old fashioned contrarianism now that the mainstream opinion is that lootboxes are bad. I witnessed a noticeable shift in opinion here from anti-lootbox to pro-lootbox once it started getting media and government attention.

tl;dr contrarians

Colton Campbell
Colton Campbell

YOU read a book it took me literally one google search you fucking inbred retard.
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/031815/united-states-considered-market-economy-or-mixed-economy.asp

Nice job getting your info from pol

Michael Myers
Michael Myers

in countries* hurr durr

Ryder Baker
Ryder Baker

Ultimately, we would all suffer from this. If a government-mandated regulation was in effect, ALL GAMES need to be submitted for review before any sort of distribution could take place, regardless of vendor. This would inevitably hurt your indie games and lewd games. As of now, an ESRB rating is not government mandated. It's solely up to the vendor if they give a fuck about ratings or not.

Mason Turner
Mason Turner

user in what world is it ok that americans are so uneducated they don't even know what kind of economy their own country has?

How is that even possible?

Eli Parker
Eli Parker

Not unless it is marketed to be cosumed, like so much American processed food.

Wyatt Gutierrez
Wyatt Gutierrez

investopedia

Fucking kill yourself.

Subsequently, many mixed economies have expanded in scope to include a role forindicative economic planningor largepublic enterprisesectors.

This isn't America at all retard. There are barely any state-run enterprises. Governments building the roads or police is not a mixed market. Free market does not refer to an economy with zero regulations. Hong Kong is described by every economist as a free market for example.

Lucas Peterson
Lucas Peterson

We're living in a world where people are asking the government to ban lootboxes because they can't trust themselves to not buy them.
Anything is possible.

Isaiah Ward
Isaiah Ward

implyng i'm amerimutt

Carson Morgan
Carson Morgan

Government banning predatory monetization practices does not lead to censorship by necessity, and that is not how the countries that regulate and censor in-game content got to that point. They censored games to begin with.

So there is no preceding case of a slope for you to argue with.

John Gonzalez
John Gonzalez

AO rated games can't be on the shelf on gamestop :) You fucking tard.

Aaron Bennett
Aaron Bennett

predatory monetization
You don't have to buy them user, nobody is making you.

Alexander Hernandez
Alexander Hernandez

can't wait to watch this place eat crow when this has almost no effect except in a few nanny states

Josiah Roberts
Josiah Roberts

Colonialism might not have been "good" but it's a historically documented fact that Africa was much better after it ended before commies took over.
ok lets just break this down for a moment. First off citation needed on that fact. Secondly, when colonialism ended where and in what time are you talking? We use the word colonialism to refer to a large amount of separate occupations by separate foreign powers that all acted independently. Most importantly it didnt end everywhere on the continent at the same time and powers traded rule frequently. You are making it out to be like there was a moment colonialism ended all at once and we can take a measurement for the entire continent at that moment. But that blatantly absurd. Conditions were different ion different places because africa is a really fucking big place with lots of different climates, cultures, and everything. The notion that you could even make the statement "africa was X way right after colonialism" is nonsense because thats almost certainly going to be reductionist bullshit glossing over important facts.

And also, why the fuck are you defending colonialism? It was for the most part barbaric and shitty. Foreigners came to their countries, took them over by force, took as many natural resources as possible, and gave you jack shit of the wealth generated. This doesnt have to be about race, its just an awful thing some groups did to some other groups a few hundred years ago

Thomas Johnson
Thomas Johnson

It's not the same people who are asking for it, we're asking it to stop those people who think lootboxes are fine and you should pay too.

Nathaniel Perry
Nathaniel Perry

Tell me, does a bear trap cease being a trap if no one steps on it?

Wyatt Green
Wyatt Green

user holy shit
Are you actually so stupid you not only don't know your own countrie's economy?

Not only that but you are actually defending the wrong answer like you actually know something?

My head is fucking spinning this is in highschool textbooks I can't believe someone is arguging with me about this I am fucking shocked.

Can someone explain how it got to this level?

http://countrystudies.us/united-states/economy-2b.htm

I am seriously shocked that a fellow countryman of mine is this stupid. I'm not even joking or mad I am just sad it has come to this level.

Brandon Brown
Brandon Brown

cuck

Daniel Powell
Daniel Powell

They already have your info.

Benjamin Taylor
Benjamin Taylor

The argument is letting government regulate game content as a whole. This leads to the government given the powere to actively dictate content in games in the future. It sets an extremely bad precedent. It's not that banning lootboxes = eventual censorship. It's giving government power to regulate games = eventual censorship.

Games need to stay unregulated. Government needs to fuck off.

Cameron Jones
Cameron Jones

the law will stay as it is, and not be expanded upon like every goddamn law in the history of the world, and now that politicians have seen that they can get power and fame by doing this with video games, they will surely not seize this opportunity to do so again

Easton Brooks
Easton Brooks

Ahh it's ok if you did not know then I am sorry.

Jack Hill
Jack Hill

he plans to do this with how big an army of lawyers?

cause the lootbox industry will have thousands

Jason Bell
Jason Bell

Would you, by that logic, ban bear traps on the grounds that some idiot might willfully step on one?

They are fine, but you shouldn't pay. Just play different games. Don't make the government force EA to make good business decisions.

Juan Rogers
Juan Rogers

You can think that all you want, but since there is no preceding case of it happening, your slippery slope argument is based on a fallacious assumption.

Christian Williams
Christian Williams

You are making it out to be like there was a moment colonialism ended all at once
I obviously mean it as a "historical moment" which is a perfectly valid way of simplifying it, in general colonialism ended in Africa in the mid XX century save for an exception here and there. And if you want a source I refer to Dambisa Moyo's books, poverty rates have increased sharply across subsaharan Africa from the mid XX century onward.

why the fuck are you defending colonialism?
Um, I'm not? All I said is that in the immediate moment after it ended, Africa was considerably less shit than it later became under marxist governments that popped out everywhere and ruled them for decades.

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