Why is the vast majority of western weapon/armor design in medieval styled RPGs...

Dylan Martin
Dylan Martin

why is the vast majority of western weapon/armor design in medieval styled RPGs so poorly designed and ugly? why are japs so much better at designing sensible western weapons and armor than the actual western developers? even the fantasmal dark soul boss weapons are better designed.

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Connor Parker
Connor Parker

Because the west these days just copies WoW's art style instead of taking inspiration from real armor or classic fantasy design and aesthetics.

Colton Turner
Colton Turner

Warcraft
Medieval

Kek
Also Tier 10 DK is sweet, all From artists do is rip off European culture

Adam Ramirez
Adam Ramirez

Look up the difference between high fantasy and low fantasy

Aaron Campbell
Aaron Campbell

That's fantasy you retard
they could give him a chainsaw if they wanted

Dylan Cruz
Dylan Cruz

you're using the term "rip off" really loosely here

Nicholas Parker
Nicholas Parker

Dark Souls is high fantasy

Levi Walker
Levi Walker

if you're implying that dark souls is low fantasy, you're wrong. the world of dark souls is built by gods and giants, it's the human pygmies who are out of place.

Charles King
Charles King

That armor looks like Sir Alonne before he turned into a weeaboo

Ryan Carter
Ryan Carter

all From artists do is rip off fighting fantasy
fixed that for you

Mason King
Mason King

Wait, isn't wow supposed to be a cartoonish inspired game? And most of the people worked on warhammer, of course it's going to be tolkien as fug.

Carson Campbell
Carson Campbell

stealing noses was considered obscene back then

Thomas Butler
Thomas Butler

epic thread
epic for the win!!!

Lucas Wright
Lucas Wright

if tolkien saw those designs, he would shit himself from how bad they are

Nathaniel Roberts
Nathaniel Roberts

Dark souls weapons and armor is based off European armor and weapons, and everyone in dark souls is white. What does it mean by "made by non-white people"?

Owen Jones
Owen Jones

Comparing grimdark Souls to cartoony Warcraft

Really nigga

Eli Perez
Eli Perez

implies that japs are more faithful to historical design than westerners are

Blake Gonzalez
Blake Gonzalez

I don't get it either. They should all be as scantily clad as possible, with absolutely godly physiques. Give us peons something to aspire to.

Wyatt Gray
Wyatt Gray

now compare grimdark souls to grimdark lotr... still same shit

Carson Jones
Carson Jones

Not really, no.

Ian Hall
Ian Hall

Warhammer and Warcraft
even remotely Tolkein in aesthetic
How stupid can a person be?

Gavin Brooks
Gavin Brooks

By "westerners" you mean americans right?

David Roberts
David Roberts

Not really, Id say LOTR has way more realistic and effective designs while still maintaining that fantasy aesthetic. Sans a few designs likke the fuckhuge flail mace from the movies.

Josiah Morris
Josiah Morris

You know warhammer has a medieval setting right user? heavy inspired by tolkien? I know you wouldn't type random shit on the internet.

Jayden James
Jayden James

I'm sick of the overused world of warcraft cartoon aesthetic.

Joshua Hernandez
Joshua Hernandez

56%
white

How about a game made by actual white people?

Charles Gomez
Charles Gomez

Friendly reminder

Easton Gray
Easton Gray

lore wise it's Tolkien, aesthetics wise, it's an 80s animated cartoon based on a line of toys.

Gabriel James
Gabriel James

Yeah DS design looks way better
Probably one of the best art design in currently industry

Austin Campbell
Austin Campbell

compared to dark souls and wow, that realistic game you posted lacks any fantasy elements

Matthew Roberts
Matthew Roberts

Japan thinks regular armor is impressive

Japan has nosports

Samuel Rodriguez
Samuel Rodriguez

And?

Aaron Reed
Aaron Reed

Dark Souls: Medieval Fantasy
World of Warcraft: High Fantasy

now go back 2reddit

James Gomez
James Gomez

it is when you're comparing it to armor that is more akin to a child's halloween costume than anything worth using

Andrew Harris
Andrew Harris

dark souls is high fantasy, or more precisely, dark fantasy

Lincoln Nguyen
Lincoln Nguyen

It's just a new world thing. American/Canadian devs have no idea how to make an armor design suited for fantasy without turning it into a fisher-price plastic looking mess. It's not even a realism thing. Pic related lacks realistic armpit protection, for example, but it's an effective and fanciful design.

Ian Cooper
Ian Cooper

muh realism in a fantasy game
Just stop.

Thomas Nguyen
Thomas Nguyen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_in_video_gaming
meme pictures don't make you right

Connor Morgan
Connor Morgan

Yes.

why do westerners hate good looking historical armor? why do they always have to make them look like toys?

dark souls is both medieval and high fantasy

Gavin Martinez
Gavin Martinez

2k18
2018
What the fuck is the point of using k if it doesn't shorten the entire thing

Jeremiah Nelson
Jeremiah Nelson

Someone post the chink in the armor.

Elijah King
Elijah King

slavs
white

Evan Howard
Evan Howard

still is in some countries

Caleb Hill
Caleb Hill

Someone post the dragon one.

Jack Myers
Jack Myers

Sorry, what was that Weeb?

Logan Harris
Logan Harris

Kek'd

Tyler Rodriguez
Tyler Rodriguez

so people can easily see that it's a 2K developed game and not EA

Jeremiah Foster
Jeremiah Foster

And the ones on the left sold way more. That's pretty fucking pathetic.

Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis

There probably aren't very many black people at all on the dev teams though. Representation in business and such is skewed in america, more blacks are jobless or do lower labor stuff

Zachary Myers
Zachary Myers

oh i'm an idiot

Robert Howard
Robert Howard

Oh shit, I've never actually noticed that

Cooper Powell
Cooper Powell

no American games
mainly Japanese games
What did he mean by this?

Adam Miller
Adam Miller

MMO
medieval

Eli Hall
Eli Hall

56% is more than 0%

Matthew Lewis
Matthew Lewis

Everything must be realistic and fit my definition of "good"
You sound like a neofag SJW

Adam Sanchez
Adam Sanchez

retarded

Christian Price
Christian Price

dragons aren't even real you dumb minge

Jose Taylor
Jose Taylor

Mech Fantasy sounds rad

Joshua Peterson
Joshua Peterson

thread

Jaxson Myers
Jaxson Myers

This thread needs more armor.

Andrew White
Andrew White

So are skeletons

Daniel Allen
Daniel Allen

I blame Warhammer Fantasy, and then Warcraft for copying Warhammer Fantasy.

Games Workshop wanted to create intimidating fuckers in armor that is melded into their skin with humongous pauldrons, and Blizzard wanted to make their ENTIRE franchise with that armor. Now everybody wants to copy it.

Jeremiah Rodriguez
Jeremiah Rodriguez

neofag SJW
what does that even mean you fucking retard?

Wyatt Turner
Wyatt Turner

it means "thing I don't like"

David Clark
David Clark

holes and tears in the exact same spots
Jesus, just how lazy are Bethesda?

Colton Thomas
Colton Thomas

sales determine the quality of the product
It's not my fault westerns fall for flashy trailers and only buy yearly rehashes.

Charles Anderson
Charles Anderson

I love Japanese games, but there's some retarded armor in their games too. Shit that isn't practical or realistic

Grayson Richardson
Grayson Richardson

right looks better

Carter Carter
Carter Carter

"thing I don't like"
did user upset you because he was making fun of WoW's shitty armor design? it's an opinion, get over it.

Lucas Young
Lucas Young

As long as it looks cool its okay

Justin Ortiz
Justin Ortiz

6 of the 8 American games are on PC
only 4 of the 12 Japanese games are on PC

What did Japan mean by this?

Levi Brown
Levi Brown

Blizzard/Games Workshop design is so fucking ugly.

It's not about practicality, realism, or how retarded the armour is. It's just ugly as sin. I don't know what people see in it.

William Robinson
William Robinson

Japan is only just now starting to figure out how computers work.

Julian Howard
Julian Howard

god it hurts, it hurts so fucking bad

Luke Parker
Luke Parker

I think you might actually be retarded or at least lack basic reading comprehension...

Elijah Clark
Elijah Clark

300 years where they just put cloth over the chainmail

Anthony Lewis
Anthony Lewis

Americans
actual white people
t. 56%

Joshua Howard
Joshua Howard

Fashion is always the next logical step up.

Nathan Hall
Nathan Hall

I don't know the difference between medieval fantasy and high fantasy

Why are weebs so fucking stupid?

Jayden Reed
Jayden Reed

pics/threads like this just make me realize how bad i want to live in the middle ages. Chivalry, women in a more beneficial place for society, combat that favors the mind over unintelligent meatheads like today. fuck.

you will never be a knight in the middle ages

Dominic Lewis
Dominic Lewis

you realize we're not even 300 years old yet, right? we literally didn't exist in the medieval era.

Aaron Thompson
Aaron Thompson

Fucking who copies WoW's art style?

Kevin Cox
Kevin Cox

Well i'm just gonna' start posting armor from games I like.
I always thought Dragon age had some pretty nice armor.

Jayden Cook
Jayden Cook

This thread is the kind of thing weebs do with their spare time. They don't get girls, they don't get laid, they get (you)s.

Samuel Howard
Samuel Howard

Ameriniggers are not white, games developed in Europe (where actual white people, not Jamal "My great-grandpa was born in Ireland" Sanchez "white" people, are born) have perfectly good armor. Amerifats are just too stupid to appreciate good art direction.

wuh-wuh-wighter dan yoooo, Muhammad

Connor Thompson
Connor Thompson

listing Metroid in japanese when Mercurystream is spanish

Alexander Garcia
Alexander Garcia

german a best

Luke Foster
Luke Foster

American flag
Made by actual white people
56%

Eli Green
Eli Green

dark souls
not high fantasy
look at this retard

Jonathan Martinez
Jonathan Martinez

So be fair, 6 of the games are first party, the other 6 are third party. Now it's up to Sega to get their heads out of their asses and put their games on PC.

Hudson Howard
Hudson Howard

Europe
white

Kayden Long
Kayden Long

obsessed polack happy he doesn't have to eat his grandma to survive
You're getting ahead of yourself trying to stand up to an actual country.

Jaxon Wilson
Jaxon Wilson

high fantasy
uses game models that uses a fucking engine made in 2002 and comparing it to a game made almost a decade later

are you retarded? wow is supposed to be borderline cartoonish and not only that their engine can render only certain amount of textures(see grand marshal set)

Aiden Evans
Aiden Evans


Same guy in

I'll give Games Workshop and their Warhammer Fantasy a pass since it's just one faction with that armor, and they are supposed to be that ridiculous since Norscan men are not ordinary people, and it's not even armor or should be considered armor. Chaos armor is literally apart of their body, what you see is what they are now, they are nothing but a chassis in a metal suit turned and changed by the Ruinous Powers once they were considered worthy to be their Warriors of Chaos.

Blizzard went fucking balls ass dumb shit retarded like a dumbfuck, and started giving Orcs, Humans, and everybody else that armor, and making it a norm.

Chaos of Warriors was never supposed to be the norm, which is why you only see them wearing it and humans in the Empire and Bretonnia still wear plate armor. Blizzard is the retard here.

Hunter Rodriguez
Hunter Rodriguez

it has big people and magic that means it's high fantasy

Nah, fuck off

Easton Rogers
Easton Rogers

why do westerners hate good looking historical armor?
They don't.
Subhuman weebs retards like you just delude yourselves with cherrypicked images made by other subhuman weebs.
Throw yourself off a cliff.

Gavin Clark
Gavin Clark

obsessed
At least I'm not obese, Tyrone.

Matthew Long
Matthew Long

are you high?

Adam Russell
Adam Russell

If she were wearing a functional gambeson under that, and a cage helmet, it would be VERY practical and effective. Add a sheet of chain sleeving over the upper arms and attached to the bottom of the breastplate, and it's a veritable fortress. Breastplate could be a little longer.

Thick plate armor around the vitals, gambeson to protect against glancing blows.
Large headpiece with cage helmet allows full visibility and ability to turn your head. Thick gorget to protect the most valuable target. Gauntlets and elbow bracers to protect hands and prevent joint locks or breaks.

So close to being a unique and functional armor.

Nicholas Foster
Nicholas Foster

not yet.

Jordan Gutierrez
Jordan Gutierrez

normies

Benjamin Baker
Benjamin Baker

so you're just stupid. good to know

Justin Jackson
Justin Jackson

The world of Dark Souls i on a giant fucking tree filled with magic and gods with a magic flame. How about you fuck off and kill yourself.

Jack Johnson
Jack Johnson

Chivalry was a meme that just let you rape the wife of the guy you killed. Women were dogs. Retarded kings ended their kingdoms over retarded shit on the daily. Leeches and shoving feces into your wound were high end medical things. Combat favored the meathead because he's just going to knock you over and beat you to death with a club.

You pathetic virgin.

Landon Hughes
Landon Hughes

literally EVERYONE?
Nowadays its just everyoen coyping LeL of legends, who copied was inspired by WoW and WC3 in the first place.

Michael Morgan
Michael Morgan

those fucking pauldrons

Landon Hill
Landon Hill

Sounds great to be honest.

Cooper Parker
Cooper Parker

combat that favors the mind over unintelligent meatheads like today.
There is nothing about melee weapon combat that favors the mind over brawn compared to today where being stronger physically doesn't actually mean shit.

Grayson Lewis
Grayson Lewis

Great if you're a Chad. Sup Forums poster though? It's serf life for you.

Colton Mitchell
Colton Mitchell

not listing the GOTY Divinity 2

Elijah Davis
Elijah Davis

https://youtu.be/SFhR4m5X9n8

Owen Gonzalez
Owen Gonzalez

nope, i'm probably the smartest person on this website.

Ayden Williams
Ayden Williams

jesus christ those arms, are these designed for skelletons?

Brody Morales
Brody Morales

At least call it Divinity OS2. There's already a Divinity 2. I get momentarily confused every time.

Cooper Bell
Cooper Bell

I conveniently threw out the FANTASY part of these games so I could try and argue about historical accuracy.

James Morales
James Morales

we're aryans unlike you cyka
slavs are just pale niggers
stay third world

Jordan Bell
Jordan Bell

looks like she is wearing a toilet

Oliver Smith
Oliver Smith

yeah because Divinity 2 could be the 2017 GOTY

Jayden Jones
Jayden Jones

of course you are sweety, go think about really deep topics like philosophy while you toke up again

Robert Smith
Robert Smith

It's not a game developed in America.

Adam Carter
Adam Carter

I need mech fantasy please.

Fun mecha is dead. Please give it. Please.

Do it now. Do it.

William James
William James

Pretty sure dark souls is still high fantasy.

If you play the game you'll see that the armors and weapons are pretty much the only realistic things about it. Every thing else is pretty out there.

I don't even think Europe exists in the game

Grayson Jenkins
Grayson Jenkins

I don't give a single fuck about historical accuracy, I just think that the more "realistic" armor design like in Dark Souls looks ten thousand times cooler than armor in games like WoW or TES.

Evan Thompson
Evan Thompson

america
Lmao

Brandon Green
Brandon Green

Hard to be obese when you'd go a week without being able to put food on the table.

Jason Phillips
Jason Phillips

good man

Brandon Gray
Brandon Gray

americans

white

Ethan Davis
Ethan Davis

They're not called the dark ages for nothing.

Cooper Perez
Cooper Perez

3 a best

Charles Cox
Charles Cox

WoW ruined fantasy games.
made popular the holy trinity
made popular retarded cartoony glowy shit that chinks love

Jason Baker
Jason Baker

TES has some great armor designs.

Bentley Walker
Bentley Walker

WHO

Mobas don't count because no one takes them seriously as settings anyway

Michael Turner
Michael Turner

post some examples

Ryder Hall
Ryder Hall

meant for

Isaiah Adams
Isaiah Adams

It's on the female model.

Joseph Perry
Joseph Perry

Norscan men are not ordinary people
Yes they are, and chaos warriors are almost never from norsca.

Landon Hernandez
Landon Hernandez

Is WoW single-handedly responsible for ruining the aesthetic of fantasy video games?
Just look at this garbage.

Wyatt Foster
Wyatt Foster

don't be jealous.

Juan Clark
Juan Clark

using the chinese as a scapegoat for your shitty western armor designs
lmao

Lincoln Fisher
Lincoln Fisher

Armpit protection really isn't that important if you've ever fought. Its uncommon to get struck there by anything more than a glancing blow; a chain shirt and backing is more than enough for it.

Joseph Ward
Joseph Ward

that is not one of them, then.

David Lopez
David Lopez

Weebs are usually pretty stupid, user.

Asher Campbell
Asher Campbell

This is how western game industry works

Austin Garcia
Austin Garcia

3rd person action game where you can call in magical mech suit, Titanfall style
Siegeing castles by grabbing a tree and beat the gate down with it
Pick up enemy knights and use them like a mace to beat their friends
Wrestle dragons to the ground
Bonus sport where you try to punt Orcs through a goal

Asher Robinson
Asher Robinson

Why the fuck is Dark Souls the only RPG that bases it's armor on real historical designs? It looks so much better, and everyone loves Dark Souls armor, yet WRPG devs always insist on their ridiculous fugly designs.
that's ok, better than some TES armor. Pic related is the worst, it's close to being a decent design but then they went full fucking retard on the legs and helmet and the fur loincloth looks like shit. If the face of the helmet was pointed and the legs were chainmail and there was a cloth tabard instead of this fur abomination it would be great.

Ethan Reyes
Ethan Reyes

A true man's worth is measured by the size of his shoulder pads

Owen Carter
Owen Carter

how can video games even compete

Ethan Carter
Ethan Carter

don't worry, i'm not jealous.

Joshua Sullivan
Joshua Sullivan

It doesn't look cool, though.
Looks like she's wearing a toilet seat.

Kayden Carter
Kayden Carter

Yes. It also ruined western games in general by inventing the perfect addicting game.

Jonathan Parker
Jonathan Parker

it is high fantasy because supernatural things dictate a whole lot of the laws of the world.

Tyler Rogers
Tyler Rogers

all that ridiculous overkill metal
back of the neck, one of the most vulnerable parts of the human body is exposed

Christian Flores
Christian Flores

but chinks love that shit, im not saying its their fault but they really did ended up pandering to them in the end, just like how dota does nowadays.
Every chinese game has WoW-tier aesthetic with bulky overdesigned shit and glowy and sparkly stuff everywhere.

Jackson Jones
Jackson Jones

it aint gonna suck itself

Adrian Gonzalez
Adrian Gonzalez

america
white

Gabriel Perez
Gabriel Perez

This knight is trained to fuck your mouth

Jack Campbell
Jack Campbell

That's how you know most gamers have garbage taste and should be purged from playing video games.

Angel Perry
Angel Perry

I meant that for what user said about practicality not his pic

Michael Moore
Michael Moore

Sounds like an opinion.

Kek. Speaking of things people don't give a fuck about.

Evan Hall
Evan Hall

every chinese game
dude, those are made for the chinese market. again, you're just using them as a scapegoat for shitty western designs americans love.

Jordan Phillips
Jordan Phillips

looks like shit

Angel Garcia
Angel Garcia

American unironically defending being a fatass
Why do you retards pretend that your states and regions are different when literally all of you are the exact same kind of idiot?

Hudson Garcia
Hudson Garcia

???
Are you retarded? i never said it was purely the chinks fault, you idiot.
I hate these designs.

Grayson Fisher
Grayson Fisher

Actual steel armor is fucking hard to make without education systems, national labor forces, etc. Plus, the full plate of those later eras was largely Pageantry armor, which was functional in battle but rarely worn aside from high nobility. By the 1400s most "knights" were mercenaries who just wore whatever they could loot that would fit.

Oliver Myers
Oliver Myers

if you think WoW/TES armor looks better than DaS armor you are fucking dumb

Aaron Powell
Aaron Powell

Japanese character design is superior

Lucas Wright
Lucas Wright

This. FUCKING THIS!

Brandon Young
Brandon Young

The Transformers movies make a gorillion, doesn't mean they're any good.

Ryan Phillips
Ryan Phillips

Land of the FREE where you have the right to choose whether to be a fatass or not, as opposed to Poorland.

Asher Adams
Asher Adams

FF Series.
Weebiest of weeb series.
Ends up with better looking armor than 90% of western shit.

It's fucking sad.

Owen Cruz
Owen Cruz

of course it's going to be tolkien as fug.
you know nothing
stop posting

Parker Turner
Parker Turner

Oh well I agree, then.

Jace Hughes
Jace Hughes

is it easy to get through chainmail
though I imagine the meat of the person inside would be battered to shit even if they couldn't get through

Zachary Butler
Zachary Butler

Escaflowne, the video game

Noah Diaz
Noah Diaz

those pauldrons
that tiny helmet
Lmao

In fashion terms that's fly as fuck, but still has those pauldrons

Dominic Phillips
Dominic Phillips

please tell me this is satire

Jose Richardson
Jose Richardson

you're bringing something up that's irrelevant to the western market, chinese games have no effect on it. you don't want western developers to be completely blamed for shit WoW designs

Kayden Baker
Kayden Baker

mfw making alistair wear the whole set

Ryder Lopez
Ryder Lopez

Why do you retards pretend that your states and regions are different
Isn't Poland just a Russian breakaway state that has never existed historically?

Cameron Gutierrez
Cameron Gutierrez

western games perhaps have different ideas of fantasy where it's more exaggerated compared to a game like dark souls which is more heavily grounded in reality? that, or they don't take the time to research medieval armor/weapons

Sebastian Clark
Sebastian Clark

It's pretty weak to piercing pike weapons. Or bows. I'd say weaker than our current kevlar padding.

Was worn with padding underneath, though, not just over bare skin. Softened the blows.

Cooper Cox
Cooper Cox

I always thought that "Low Fantasy" referred to settings where it's almost identical to modern day Earth, but there's like some secret society of magic and monsters.

Like Percy Jackson, or something like that.

Noah Harris
Noah Harris

American education
I bet you unironically post "Ukrainian isn't real ecks dee" memes on /pol/ just because the Russians you worship say so.

Daniel Martinez
Daniel Martinez

I like both, honestly. I know people can be triggered by unrealistic and cartoony style. Why? Because they fucking retarded.

Dominic Scott
Dominic Scott

Theres no science in Star Wars.

Hunter Lewis
Hunter Lewis

Looks profoundly retarded.

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