Overwatch League

Carson Ramirez
Carson Ramirez

">Competitive Overwatch" edition

Stream: http://eve.majorleaguegaming.com/overwatchleague

Wiki: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/overwatch/Overwatch_League/Season_1

LA Valiant vs SF Shock on at the moment.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctBeaU_hlw0
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Ian Gomez
Ian Gomez

Competitive Overwatch

John Baker
John Baker

First for nobody caring

Liam Nguyen
Liam Nguyen

Who /hype/ here? I'm cheering on my boys LA.

Charles Sullivan
Charles Sullivan

Mercy shouldn't have rez, give her a quick burst in healing instantly or damage resistance like roadhog's heal on a target temporarily with a long cooldown to pop at best.

Robert Perry
Robert Perry

competitive overwatch

Daniel Hall
Daniel Hall

Was hoping Mayhem would beat Shock earlier. Considering how bad that went, I'm rooting for Valiant on principal.

Michael Jenkins
Michael Jenkins

Mercy

Anthony Ortiz
Anthony Ortiz

competitive overwatch is clearly a massive success, salty TF2 players BTFO

Jaxson Evans
Jaxson Evans

When did Tracer become the Breakman?

Anthony Martinez
Anthony Martinez

clearly
How many people are watching right now?

Julian Hughes
Julian Hughes

If you're going to keep making this thread shouldn't it be moved to /vg/?

Elijah Rivera
Elijah Rivera

Wtf is Goku in this gay game?

Anthony Collins
Anthony Collins

OWL Team Jerseys (skins) change depending on who's playing. SF Shock is bright orange.

Jose Garcia
Jose Garcia

So Cal

How about no?

Brody Butler
Brody Butler

TF2 players aren't all autists trying to force their game into a competitive scope. Meanwhile at least 90% of the OW community worship or circle around competitive.

Logan Allen
Logan Allen

Implying multiple threads for a live event is outside of the norm
Let alone warranting a general
how nu r u

Jordan Wright
Jordan Wright

SF has no chance. No way a team of soyboys from soycity could win anything

John Lopez
John Lopez

Whos your favorite Overwatch pro? Mines sinatraa.

Wyatt Wood
Wyatt Wood

OWL "pros" can't even aim

Lmao competitive overwatch

Cameron Garcia
Cameron Garcia

COMPETITIVE OVERWATCH

Leo Sullivan
Leo Sullivan

implying any city in commiefornia is better

Elijah Nelson
Elijah Nelson

make your game with casual elements to appease everyone
competitive

Zachary Peterson
Zachary Peterson

competitive overwatch

I like to suck cock but that's too gay for me.

Zachary White
Zachary White

7 billion

Carson Martinez
Carson Martinez

Notice how SF can't win on payload maps, maps that take skill.

Dylan White
Dylan White

They went 3-1 against Florida earlier.

T b h, only ones I know by name are Seagull and xQc, and I hate them both.

Blake Bell
Blake Bell

unironically ryujehong

Liam Gonzalez
Liam Gonzalez

can't even aim
Nice bait kiddo.

Camden Powell
Camden Powell

Florida is pretty low tier unless they have Florida Man on their team. Which they didn't.

Jason Phillips
Jason Phillips

But they sold 10 billion copies!

Joseph Ward
Joseph Ward

RJH

Jaxson Lee
Jaxson Lee

or you know make it her ultimate

Isaiah Carter
Isaiah Carter

Seagull's alright but XQC is a complete manchild.

Nicholas Stewart
Nicholas Stewart

Competitive Overwatch

Brandon Parker
Brandon Parker

She'd be fundamentally fucked without Valkyrie. 1 res is not enough to make it an ult but more than 2 is ridiculous.

Luis Reed
Luis Reed

Babybay in charge of DPS

Aaron Jones
Aaron Jones

Why didn't Blizzard consider this when reworking her?

Asher James
Asher James

I need a viewer count RIGHT NOW

Camden Butler
Camden Butler

ywn enjoy that organic oil

Logan Williams
Logan Williams

40 GORILLION VIEWERS!

Grayson James
Grayson James

shoots at a character with one of the largest hitboxes in the game
dosen't even kill him
shoots lucio a few times, not killing him
presses aimbot button

this is actually some good bait keep posting it in future threads

Jose Hughes
Jose Hughes

Estimates are from 450k-500k right now.

Nathan Nelson
Nathan Nelson

MLGstream
Good luck with that.

Adam James
Adam James

I believe you.

Logan Powell
Logan Powell

her old rez was fine just get rid of the invincibility and make it los they can even add the casting time to it

David Gutierrez
David Gutierrez

This game is worse to watch than MOBAS

James Hernandez
James Hernandez

tfw the game you spent a solid year and a half looking forward to and nearly 8 months playing after release has a balance/new content cycle that is so fucking slow that it actually makes you stop playing because it makes the game boring and predictable

new maps take too long to develop and are in PTR for a month plus, BlizzWorld isn't set to come out until January

three heroes in this calendar year and one of them is so broken that the next major title patch is going to be the "Doomfist fix" patch

roll outs and getting back to the action from spawn is still an absolute snoozefest and feels more like a flowchart or job than an actual part of the game

majority of the content we get is "1XX new items!" in event lootboxes every three months, 2/3 of that is voice lines/sprays to fluff the item total

Michael Roberts
Michael Roberts

estimates
My uncle works at Blizzard and literally everyone on Earth has it open in three browser windows.

Caleb Sullivan
Caleb Sullivan

Blizzard games censor player numbers
their streams censor viewer numbers too
D E S P E R A T E

Asher Rivera
Asher Rivera

The state of Shock in that last fight

Landon Butler
Landon Butler

They learned from SC2. People declared it dead when it got to a few thousand online.

Jose Morales
Jose Morales

competitive overwatch

Lincoln King
Lincoln King

Based LA

Connor Nguyen
Connor Nguyen

Doesn't make the games any less ead.
Their tornaments get ~10k viewers, now they changed platforms and don't show any numbers, not even any chat.
And the best part
720p 2008 tier budget stream

Xavier James
Xavier James

You can bitch and nitpick flaws about the game in your own thread. This one is for discussing competitive.

Noah Gonzalez
Noah Gonzalez

I'm actually kinda enjoying this, I couldn't get into competitive OW or esports in general before. I think this professional league set-up works for me.

Dylan Gray
Dylan Gray

Playing the Dragon short music during the break
RELEASE IT ALREADY YOU INCOMPETENT FUCKS

Cooper Green
Cooper Green

Wait this game has a competitive scene

Luis Watson
Luis Watson

It's another Korea is going to win everything episode

Mason Nelson
Mason Nelson

It's sad to see them miss the mark so hard when the game had so much potential. It seems to be the Blizzard way to create something beautiful and then gradually mismanage it into irrelevance.

Bentley Wilson
Bentley Wilson

Aren't all the teams like 80% Korean?

Josiah Jackson
Josiah Jackson

overcucks can't compete with chadstrike so a decade old f2p game only third-world trash still play is the closest thing they have to compete against
:^)

Samuel Miller
Samuel Miller

Dudes check out the New York team, 100% Korean, I was half expecting the Chinese team to be Korean too.

Evan Phillips
Evan Phillips

Finally, some pro Junkrat skills

Benjamin Clark
Benjamin Clark

There's 1 official Korean team. Then some other teams have a couple Korean players here and there. About half of LA Valiant's are Korean players.

Hunter Torres
Hunter Torres

damn finally some moira

Alexander Ortiz
Alexander Ortiz

35 milion

Jayden Hughes
Jayden Hughes

What's there to discuss?

Connor Long
Connor Long

Finally, a team without Mercy
Using Moira nonetheless
It's San Fran
fug

Easton Bell
Easton Bell

Koreans are so shit at fps that they play baby shit like Overwatch
LMAO YOOOOO

James Lopez
James Lopez

London Spitfire is 100% Korean

Christian Ross
Christian Ross

babybay

Luke Cruz
Luke Cruz

spaced nearly evenly
no substance posts
sounds like a redditor
expecting people to not see your Pajeet level shilling

Comp...

Ryder Smith
Ryder Smith

This one is for discussing competitive
competitive
overwatch

Leo Jenkins
Leo Jenkins

Moira confirmed garbage

Austin Nelson
Austin Nelson

competitive overwatch

Elijah Wood
Elijah Wood

watching "COMPETETIVE" Overwatch
Everyone sucks
I could play better than these fuckers

why.

Brandon Garcia
Brandon Garcia

Enter thread about something you know you don't like
S-STOP ADVERTISING TO ME!!

Jeremiah Campbell
Jeremiah Campbell

competitive overwatch

Carter Perez
Carter Perez

diversity based video game is succesful
Sup Forums hates it

hmmm

Dominic Ortiz
Dominic Ortiz

quality bumps lads, keep it on page 1

Anthony Baker
Anthony Baker

Couldn't really see her do shit either.

Any time Reinhardt or Zarya are played they tend to overshadow everything with how important their Q Presses are.

Leo Butler
Leo Butler

Is LA our team?

Bentley Miller
Bentley Miller

These matches are so close

Charles Walker
Charles Walker

Support main
want to see how pro's play Zen/Mercy/Moira
Instead watch Tracer Adventurers
Anytime it's Ana immediately shift to her POV and positioning

End my life now please

Hudson Peterson
Hudson Peterson

:( What do you mean by even spacing???

Michael Reyes
Michael Reyes

Thanks for bumping the thread, it sure makes my job easier.

Eli Bell
Eli Bell

Babybay
Barrage kills: 0

Liam Perry
Liam Perry

She's a good character but I still can't get over the way she runs.

Jeremiah Anderson
Jeremiah Anderson

Casters follow DPS 24/7
Killcams show most kills going to the tanks

Colton Thompson
Colton Thompson

shitposters are the only ones who'll bump this garbage anyway

Grayson Lopez
Grayson Lopez

Tracer is Blizzard's golden girl, don't expect to see her less any time soon. Especially with the weak ass spectator mode.

Ian Perez
Ian Perez

LA /OURBOYS/

Anthony Stewart
Anthony Stewart

God, this is pathetic.

Some mediocre tracking on a roadhog
Fails to kill a luci
PRESSES Q
OMG IM SO GOOODDD!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GaYLy8oK9w

Here, have something thats actually entertaining to watch.

Nathaniel Mitchell
Nathaniel Mitchell

team korea next bois

Owen Bell
Owen Bell

Dynasty vs Dragons next
KOREA NUMBAH WAN

Robert Reed
Robert Reed

wraxu is more entertaining than this shit tbqh

Liam Rivera
Liam Rivera

competitive overwatch

Sebastian Parker
Sebastian Parker

Super cereal
literally shaking

Fuck LA

Jordan Green
Jordan Green

Meh it's pretty boring desu. Do people really enjoy watching cherry picked frag videos?

Hunter Rivera
Hunter Rivera

/ourguys/ are dallas

Eli Sanchez
Eli Sanchez

Wraxu gets boring too fast.
He's only good at Hanzo and Roadhog.

Josiah Green
Josiah Green

Yeah the big joke of Overwatch is that most high level players are more entertaining streamers by themselves than the entirety of the OWL. The moment they are stopped getting paid out the ass to play this game it's gonna fall apart, because they could be playing anything else.

James Smith
James Smith

what happened to that game?

it's even more dead than overwatch isn't it

Justin Moore
Justin Moore

If overwatch is anything to go by yes

Nathan Sullivan
Nathan Sullivan

He's only good at scatter and hook

ftfy

James Fisher
James Fisher

Team comprised of meme streamers
/ourguys/

Joshua Roberts
Joshua Roberts

Too slow
Heros
Railgun damage too high
Rocket Launcher too slow
Bad netcode
Hackers galore

Mad I paid money for it desu, Quake Live reamins the best arena shooter.

Kevin Perry
Kevin Perry

Wanna root for Dragons
Tfw they're doomed to get curbstomped by the superior Asian team
Just make it quick

Nolan Baker
Nolan Baker

This is your game on Russians. There's so much broken shit that it all stacks together to make the game a momentous pile of trash. Almost every game now is everyone using the same broken bullshit and it won't be fixed until this or next week.

Kayden Davis
Kayden Davis

Taimou is easily the most entertaining person in the entire league

actually good at the game
constantly criticizes the game and all its problems
got a benign growth in his body and named it Mercy

Jack Foster
Jack Foster

Its not just that they added "heroes.

All the added heroes are cringey as fuck and unlikable. Muting the voice volume shouldn't improve the game so much.

Ryan Thomas
Ryan Thomas

tattoos
dropped

Jackson James
Jackson James

bring back aktm from japan
he was great

Adam Clark
Adam Clark

Bad netcode
DPS is tied to FPS. This is beyond bad netcode.

Owen Brown
Owen Brown

50% of this thread looks very organic tbqh

Henry Stewart
Henry Stewart

How much does blizzard pay you guys? I could use the income

Cameron Adams
Cameron Adams

organic like a turd lmao

Lucas Diaz
Lucas Diaz

50% of the thread is talking about better games or making fun of it, so yeah, they're real.

Dominic Ward
Dominic Ward

competitive overwatch

Ian Morales
Ian Morales

Please stop talking about a videogame on a videogame forum

Kevin Morales
Kevin Morales

about as much as soros pays me to spam amerimutts

Julian Nguyen
Julian Nguyen

rock paper scissors skill ceiling
competitive

Parker Sullivan
Parker Sullivan

If you really want money from them, be a porn artist.

Daniel Collins
Daniel Collins

gilf pls

Matthew Lee
Matthew Lee

Since when is rock paper scissors settled by who gets their hand out first?

Cooper Adams
Cooper Adams

That's not the problem. There is a dedicated general on /vg/ for this.
Imagine if /lolg/ made threads on Sup Forums for every LCS game. It would be annoying as fuck.
Go back to your garbage general

Christopher Wood
Christopher Wood

connect four then

Carter Wood
Carter Wood

Playing Rock, Paper, Scissors with anything less than two teams of 6
This guy gets it.

Dylan Clark
Dylan Clark

no u

Jacob Hall
Jacob Hall

Blizzard apologist coming through

Jace Flores
Jace Flores

Connect four has actual strategy involved. How about Candyland?

Eli Perry
Eli Perry

Literally the most fun playstyle in the game so of course Blizzard had to make her borderline unplayable.

Bentley Parker
Bentley Parker

hay gauyth dith u cee big gowrirla smath end uth hith thappie gun

Angel Cox
Angel Cox

you need better aim in rock paper scissors, aimbot not provided

Jonathan Perry
Jonathan Perry

those fucking nineheads on team china

Dominic Nelson
Dominic Nelson

Overwatch is literally soyboy: the game.
Just look at Jeff. How can someone be so low-test?

Jackson Gomez
Jackson Gomez

Lek
competitive overwatch

Kevin Fisher
Kevin Fisher

That commentator looked like he was on the verge of bursting out into tears

Gavin Roberts
Gavin Roberts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctBeaU_hlw0

Logan Hughes
Logan Hughes

actually watching this instead of memeing about how it's a joke

Zachary Rogers
Zachary Rogers

Overwatch is not video games.
Tumblr artists who've never played the game make fanart and ship the characters for mass reblogs
Models and popular cosplayers take to cosplaying OW characters even though they don't play the game, easy attention and easy money
Porn artists who don't play the game flood tags with OW stuff just because it will get the most clicks and maybe even patreon supporters
Shitposters who don't play the game just constantly point out that it demolished other class shooters as if it matters
People that do play the game are more focused on being one of the cool kids by getting lootbox gear or ranking up in competitive to be just like their favorite epic streamer (again, a social aspect) even though they get no joy from playing the game
With OW, Blizzard has created a socialite cult and a conduit for easy-access nerd cred. Everything revolving around and relating to Overwatch has absolutely NOTHING to do with the good gameplay for its own sake, it has everything to do with brand loyality and bandwagon mentality. If you enjoy games and aren't some shitstain that rode in on the Ps2, you shouldn't be able to stomach this garbage.

Aiden Ward
Aiden Ward

Commentary acting like China stands a chance
poor bastards

Caleb Wilson
Caleb Wilson

still mad because overwatch is successful and there's nothing they can do about it

Connor Foster
Connor Foster

This would be fun to watch if they forced everyone to play Tracer.

Easton Rodriguez
Easton Rodriguez

Damn

Jaxson Edwards
Jaxson Edwards

replace the game with reinhardt paintball imo

Landon Torres
Landon Torres

When you toss a ton of money at a """"competitive game"""" there is going to be some success. How long it will actually last, nobody knows.

Luis Torres
Luis Torres

This fucking commentary

Liam Martinez
Liam Martinez

What did he mean by this?

Joshua Walker
Joshua Walker

Nigga plis OW learned nothing from SC2, there are so many things done tremendously better in the latter

Andrew Allen
Andrew Allen

Okay, that stage is sick

James Myers
James Myers

agreed

Michael Johnson
Michael Johnson

that's what you said last year

Austin Garcia
Austin Garcia

And it has a free sales team in their old fans. I have a friend who literally cannot help himself but shill it to me, even though I've explained why I'm not buying it. He doesn't play it himself anymore, but he needs to sell Blizzard games to other people for some reason.

Ryder Ortiz
Ryder Ortiz

actually what the fuck? why don't they have that massive multi-part screen just showing what we're seeing?

Aaron Baker
Aaron Baker

Why are koreans so big into this anyway?
I thought FPS games were basically the one genre that asia as a whole barely touched, especially on a competitive level. It's not like any other FPS (Q3, UT99, UT2k4, TF2, RTCW, even the fucking CoD games) had any asian teams or players AFAIK.

Zachary Cook
Zachary Cook

pharah comfirmed for noobstomper

Thomas Lewis
Thomas Lewis

Blizzard told them it was SC3.

Jonathan Perry
Jonathan Perry

Holy shit Seoul, slow the fuck down.

Levi Lopez
Levi Lopez

Wew such a good character variety, right?

Liam Evans
Liam Evans

fucking hell

Ian Jenkins
Ian Jenkins

this is sad

Lucas Williams
Lucas Williams

China only got 5 elims
F

Daniel Davis
Daniel Davis

Overwatch takes no skill

Tyler Cruz
Tyler Cruz

HOW ELSE ARE YOU GONNA GET THE AEGIS IF YOU DONT KILL ROSHAN A TON

AHYUAHYUAHYUAHYUAH

Jaxon Rogers
Jaxon Rogers

Because its a Blizzard game.

Henry Long
Henry Long

inb4 that one autist who spams screenshots from the archive in every overwatch thread picks this one up too

David Perez
David Perez

It's crazy how much easier OW is to watch when they change the colours up.

Justin Ortiz
Justin Ortiz

There's a reason they're not showing viewership

Joseph Baker
Joseph Baker

There's one different character on each team, what the fuck else do you want?

Seriously, I watched their stupid world cup and every fucking game had the same four-five characters on each team. The hell can't these pukes balance properly?

Chase Baker
Chase Baker

Because Overwatch is more of an RTS game than an FPS.

Dominic Parker
Dominic Parker

i am guessing the phrase dark templar corsair is lost on you

Blake Russell
Blake Russell

yeah I can't wait for them to announce another gay character this Christmas as another publicity stunt to prolong the game.

Liam Lee
Liam Lee

That's because the number is so huge human minds cannot comprehend it and people watching would die from how amazing the number is.

Sebastian Robinson
Sebastian Robinson

There was actually global interest but Blizzard killed off all tournies but their own, which koreans of course happen to dominate. Basically for koreans and koreans only pro-overwatch is a viable career. There is no point for anyone else to really try. That's why OWL is doomed.

Isaiah Rogers
Isaiah Rogers

The hell can't these pukes balance properly?
Except it's balanced... sorta. The thing is, there are no meaningful counterplay to most heroes and abilities, it all boils down to counterpicks, so the best composition is the one that is the least prone to that.

Hudson Harris
Hudson Harris

A N A
N
A

James Green
James Green

They are probably gonna put up some BS statistic. Like they are probably also counting how many people landed on the page just to check it out and then leave right away. Then at the end of the day
500k viewers! THANK YOU ALL

Jonathan Sullivan
Jonathan Sullivan

China's best support is a Lucio
Not sure how to feel.

Levi Watson
Levi Watson

You must be right. It's only natural that they have to hold back on their success so as not to overwhelm our feeble minds. Truly, we are not prepared.

Brayden Sanchez
Brayden Sanchez

Guarantee it. Same as player counts. X million accounts, not how many players they have.

Charles Wood
Charles Wood

STAY
TAY
AY
Y

D
AD
MAD

Colton Richardson
Colton Richardson

i think the latest statistic is something like
overwatch players play two hours per day on average

Blake Rivera
Blake Rivera

That final push

Christopher Gray
Christopher Gray

how is korea so good at last point fights?
do they have a whole b team who is good enough to push the a team into that situation so that they can practice?

Wyatt Martinez
Wyatt Martinez

I'd say a rts is much more difficult to balance than a fps. I consider Paladins better in terms of balance than Overwatch and they're going full EA. Then again it has a larger roster and only one character per team but still.

I suppose you're right in a sense, but I find this mirror match crap duller than dustballs.

Alexander Scott
Alexander Scott

If only they could just give actual numbers.

Then again it has a larger roster and only one character per team but still.
Picks and bans really help it.

Dylan Cox
Dylan Cox

2 minute squash match incoming

Kevin Scott
Kevin Scott

some of the balance patches that blizzard have released have been quite heavy handed, and so far there have been few player innovations, i suppose innovating is more difficult in overwatch compared to an rts because there's others on your team, however i wish they would take a bit of a lighter hand where balance is concerned

Camden Scott
Camden Scott

Wish I could mute this commentary

Julian Carter
Julian Carter

Pffftahahahahahahaa

Justin Davis
Justin Davis

holy fuck korea please

Grayson Davis
Grayson Davis

this is a massacre

Landon Murphy
Landon Murphy

That Seoul Zen skin looks so fucking nice

Liam Wood
Liam Wood

China looks surprisingly good on attack

Cameron Allen
Cameron Allen

The problem is they don't tweak their big balance patches much or well afterwards. So in attempting to fix one set of issues they introduce several new ones and then fail to address them almost completely until the next big balance patch. It's obvious that the player base is wising up and getting tired of this pendulum swing. I played WoW in vanilla and watched SC2 from the start and its amazing that Blizzard still hasn't learned from their heavy handed approaches. It's a testament both to their game making abilities and their ability to ruin said games that SC1 has stood the test of time virtually untouched since Broodwar.

Eli Davis
Eli Davis

competitive overwatch

Easton Rivera
Easton Rivera

How much is ActiBlizz paying you to repost a play-by-play of the stream to create the illusion that people actually give a shit about OWL?

Blake Morris
Blake Morris

Sweet jesus, props to Dragons all things considered

Nicholas Phillips
Nicholas Phillips

Enter thread about thing
Surprised that people are talking about that thing
It must be the shills!
If you're that insecure that someone is trying to sell you something, then why are you even here?

Zachary Morris
Zachary Morris

i still dont understand how the balance in scbw happened, i suspect it's because there's almost no ceiling to the skill that you can achieve in it, im not discounting the strategic element of it completely, but strategy definitely takes second fiddle to skill in brood war

Ethan Martin
Ethan Martin

it might just be the koreans fooling around for a bit
but yeah

Brody Evans
Brody Evans

BAMBOOZLED BY DIYA
for real why didnt they at least try to put some pressure on her for a whole round

Jayden Cruz
Jayden Cruz

5 minutes on Point B
RIP China.

Robert Murphy
Robert Murphy

korea isnt completely unassailable in overwatch, they are the most consistently good, which probably comes from their great pedigree, but they arent unbeatable

Thomas Butler
Thomas Butler

2 - 0

Blake Rogers
Blake Rogers

As long as tracer is the meta dps do not expect the tanks to change.

Dominic Watson
Dominic Watson

I find this mirror match crap duller than dustballs
You are aware that you will never play at this level, right? For your average bronze to grand master match, pretty much the whole roster is more or less viable. It is only at this super high level that picks become as optimized as possible

Jack Cook
Jack Cook

M C C L I C K

Connor Sanchez
Connor Sanchez

Is it even possible to balance Overwatch at this point? It seems ever since release its been a slow roll into becoming unsalvageable. It just keeps getting worse and more boring as time goes on, and it was pretty boring at the start.

Jose Gonzalez
Jose Gonzalez

Wow, that makes watching this so much better. You make watching a bunch of bronze players try and fail at being competitive sound more entertaining than this tripe.

Jonathan Morgan
Jonathan Morgan

mercy is probably the only horrible thing right now, and she's had a pretty effective nerf just the other day, i still think she's a bit overwhelming, but the balance is currently the best its been

Chase Russell
Chase Russell

competitive overwatch
””major leauge”” gaming

Parker Cruz
Parker Cruz

holy balls, dva ult to deal with sound barrier? that's new

Jeremiah Long
Jeremiah Long

It was a pretty good stall

Joshua Long
Joshua Long

competitive 0-4watch

Zachary Bell
Zachary Bell

Q counters Q

Duuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh duh new meta from 2 years ago!

Jaxson Morris
Jaxson Morris

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM

Asher Nelson
Asher Nelson

I will attempt to explain.

Essentially all the units are overpowered, and with perfect control there would be many ways to break the game. However the game is also obtuse and unoptimized, which together with the sheer amount of management necessary means the game can never be played perfectly. Players will always have to juggle more priorities than they can handle and choose what to focus on, and thus players are always making mistakes or being inefficient in some way.

This means that unlike many other RTS games, the player who gains the initial advantage can't just snowball to a guaranteed win, because even if you have a big lead you can never have a perfect lock down on the game. The bigger the size of your armies and expansions the more you overlook and control inefficiently. And because every unit is capable of game breaking stuff when controlled hard enough players aren't sitting around waiting for a handful of clutch moments to make plays. A skilled player can make serious gains with almost any combination of units in almost any situation, as long as he reads it right.

The fact that there is no perfect optimal way of playing means broodwar is always a mind game. It's about reading your opponent, being creative on the fly and maintaining control under pressure. And it's engaging all the way through because there are no dead moments where a player can't do anything but wait for an opportunity. The game can't be played perfectly so there are always opportunities to be found.

This combined with the slow grown expertise of mapmakers is what I believe has made broodwar uniquely balanced and fun to play and watch. It's an accidental masterpiece.

Samuel James
Samuel James

Competitive Overwatch
Reminder for fellow anti-comp ow posters to sage in the option field.

Brandon Evans
Brandon Evans

Competitive Overwatch

Bentley Ortiz
Bentley Ortiz

Because the game is less dependent on actual dexterity and more MOBA stuff, since everything is balanced around cooldowns and TTK is very high compared to other competitive FPSs. So while Koreans might not cultivate your usual FPS talent the same way Europe, Russians, or the US might, MOBA/RTS skills translate very well to Overwatch.

Lucas Green
Lucas Green

expertise of mapmakers
fucking this, it's something that I've never given that much thought to, but if you look at some of the weirder little things like eggs and extractors they really did improve, which opened up some weird tactics
this is a good post user, i definitely agree about the difficulty of playing, stuff goes wrong literally all the time in my matches as well as pro matches, units get forgotten, academies get built twice, etc etc
i wonder if we'll ever see another game like it

Nicholas Reyes
Nicholas Reyes

Posting in a thread just to announce your downvote
bump

Jace Cooper
Jace Cooper

Fucking love this theme

Joshua Robinson
Joshua Robinson

rts games arent about dexterity
have you never played starcraft? gooks go crazy for that shit

Brayden Gonzalez
Brayden Gonzalez

overwatch in general

Robert Brooks
Robert Brooks

how bad is it

Ethan Russell
Ethan Russell

these fucking airshots

Henry Powell
Henry Powell

Don't be obtuse. We had a bunch of threads about a guy playing with his feet in the last 48 hours. While the ability to input and read information quickly is useful in both genres, the conditioning for FPS and an RTS are very different. Hell, even between different FPSs, as Quake pros can attest to the differences between various incarnations of Quake from 2 to 3 to CPMA to Live to Champions, and so it goes for classic RTS like Starcraft to Dota 2 or LoL.

Hudson Roberts
Hudson Roberts

competitive overwatch

Benjamin Harris
Benjamin Harris

We had a bunch of threads about a guy playing with his feet in the last 48 hours
Larva is not "a guy" he's motherfucking Larva
But I guess you are the average /v/tard and therefore ignorant, stupid, loudmouthed and quite mentally retarded. Have a good night

James Price
James Price

Games were still made to fit technical limitations back then. A lot of the creative design decisions were simply about trying to cram as many features as could fit. And because the infancy of the internet they didn't dare release an unpolished product.

Maybe someone will learn to apply some of the magic behind bw but I doubt we'll ever see a hands off approach like that ever again. Technical limitation induced creativity is long gone.

Adrian Butler
Adrian Butler

that's not just some guy, that's larva

Tyler Parker
Tyler Parker

They actually capped

Xavier Wilson
Xavier Wilson

4 - 0
4 - 0
4 - 0
Dragonfags on suicide watch

Gabriel Peterson
Gabriel Peterson

there does not appear to be limitless gains with Moore's law, and there still exist small cabals of people making elegant solutions to programming challenges, however it is definitely not the norm
and with the explosion of jobs in the field that saw my friend with a music degree land a job developing for a national health service, i predict at least ten years more of the same bloaty featurecreep crap that almost forces obsolescence on older devices

Daniel Torres
Daniel Torres

I hoped that with tech revolution of the last three decades slowly but surely we would see the luddites go and everyone have to gain some basic proficiency with tech. Instead tech businesses have evolved to cater to said idiots for easy money.

It's a sad state when society's only real incentive to be smart is so you can exploit the stupid people.

Levi Collins
Levi Collins

the star trek future is a dream that has passed us by, i do fear for the future, we are experiencing the worst that capitalism has to offer right now, i think we will all need to radically change the way we view our lives and our roles in the world at large if we ever want to travel the stars

Logan Parker
Logan Parker

Why did Jeff kill the best character in this game?

Colton Lee
Colton Lee

we want the neogaf audience

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