YOU COULD HAVE IT ALL

Christian Rivera
Christian Rivera

Radiant's top barracks have been destroyed
Dire is now spawning mega creeps

YOU COULD HAVE IT ALL

MY EMPIRE OF DIRT

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http://steamcharts.com/app/570
http://steamcharts.com/app/570
https://www.dotabuff.com/esports/leagues/5850-dota-summit-8
Blake Wilson
Blake Wilson

Dota2 haven't recovered since 7.00
Good days are gone
Game is shit
LoL is unironically more fun to play now and I have 5k hours in Dota2.

Jonathan Foster
Jonathan Foster

Dota2 haven't recovered since 7.00
Everything that was wrong with 7.00 has been fixed

Samuel Hughes
Samuel Hughes

explain

Andrew Martinez
Andrew Martinez

this.

the game is fine, people that are playing will still be playing this stupid fucking meme is just false flags

Anthony Parker
Anthony Parker

shrines still exist tho

Jason Brown
Jason Brown

the first thing dota did wrong was depart from it's warcraft origins

the second thing it did wrong was rubberband shit and force 5 man from 2 minutes in shit

the game was playable until the latter, it is currently unplayable

Austin Perry
Austin Perry

No it's not, still memeback, shrines in jungle so can't split push or gank alone, team up from min10 and snowball, no strategic diversity, jungle is literally useless, some talents are still OP and gives huge powerspike

Playernumber still plumets.

James Smith
James Smith

Dota2 haven't recovered since 7.00
lawl but you faggots still go into every dota topic. it still has a hold on you no matter how up your ass you are.
get smug imaged on

Nathan Martinez
Nathan Martinez

dota doesnt force any kind of gameplay are you retarded

if you're complaining about the bounty runes they're literally negligible

Easton Stewart
Easton Stewart

Until Dota starts forcing a lane meta or LoL stops forcing a lane meta, LoL will always be less fun

Robert Harris
Robert Harris

Talents have been removed?
Shrines have been removed?
Supports being given free gold has been removed?
Jungle being garbage has been reverted?
No? Dota2 is still garbage.

Brody Cooper
Brody Cooper

hey i drew this lina yesterday, she's mad at something but i'm not sure what yet. any suggestions?

John Jones
John Jones

force 5man
picking whatever instead of picking a team that works together

Youre garbage

Shrines can only be used at 5min and have a long ass cooldown, not to mention they only fucking heal about half HP up until midgame
Then they're frankly useless

No strategic diversity? Are you fucking retard? Jungle is still good but you don't know how to coordinate with your team. Talents OP? Name the Op talents so I can laugh at you

The retards that quit after 7.00 and think they know shit about Dota2 now

Colton Collins
Colton Collins

Talents have been removed?
Literally nothing wrong with talents after they removed the XP gain ones and replaced many of the stat ones with more engaging things

Shrines have been removed?
Literally nothing wrong with shrines after they nerfed them

Supports being given free gold has been removed?
Literally nothing wrong with this, it's not on everyone and it's a choice you trade something else for

Jungle being garbage has been reverted?
Yes, they put it back to 1 minute spawns

You retards literally have no logic beyond "wahhhh mommyyy it's different so it's bad now"

William Kelly
William Kelly

She isn't mad, she just got that Riki cock in her ass.

This
That's funny because early game doesn't matter in Dota2 anymore since you can memeback easily, in fact if you just stay on lane and only get xp you are still really strong

yes it does, watch any kind of pro game min10 and they fight as 5. it is a forced meta, pick the most AOE nuke and win.

Jeremiah Morales
Jeremiah Morales

That's funny because early game doesn't matter in Dota2 anymore since you can memeback easily, in fact if you just stay on lane and only get xp you are still really strong
That's funny because it has literally nothing to do with forcing a lane layout meta

Eli Jones
Eli Jones

What pros do is what I do
Fuck off

only get xp you are still really strong
What the fuck did you do before 7.00? Not get XP? Are you fucking retarded?
early game doesn't matter
just get out dude

Colton Nelson
Colton Nelson

can't gank with riki, bh, slark
Jungle is a safeplace
one thing I'm not seeing mentioned much is that you can TP to them - meaning contesting rosh is easy until you take all the t2s and the top side shrine, and also that enemy teams can TP in behind you when you push top/bot t2s and sneak attack you

Juan Campbell
Juan Campbell

It doesn't matter what your lane lineup is because you can memeback.

Noah Nguyen
Noah Nguyen

he's wrong about pro play lmao

Jose Flores
Jose Flores

Talents are a mistake. Stats are better and didn't give heroes random power spikes.

Shrines have been nerfed? You mean you can no longer TP to them? I thought so.

Literally nothing wrong with this
Lmao. Given a crutch cause you can't functionally play a hero is garbage design.

1 minute spawns
Has bounty been fixed?
Has exp been fixed?

Pic related. So you at least know I am not talking from a scrub POV.

Camden Gomez
Camden Gomez

LoL is unironically more fun
user I agree dota isn't fun but if you seriously think Lol is more fun you must be retarded.
Willing to bet you dont even have 300 games played in dota.

Asher Rivera
Asher Rivera

Dota2 is obviously a worse game than it was before, playernumbers speak for itself, many people quit, streamers quit, singsing and admirallbulldog not even streaming anymore or barely, open up steam forum people make every day 200 thread how bad dota2 has become, again stats shows massive decrease, if the game is so good then why can't it retain people like patches before 7.00 do? I'm really sorry that you game is dying, but you can always go and play LoL it is quiet similar now.

Josiah Lee
Josiah Lee

WHAT THE FUCKKKK

Julian Long
Julian Long

Yeah, and that has nothing to do with a forced meta being boring and shitty.
Are you retarded? If you're saying that Dota will never have one because you can lane anything, then you're just agreeing me and I don't know why you're posting

Mason Nguyen
Mason Nguyen

me jungle
*loses*
ME GOOD
TEAM BAD

Alexander Ramirez
Alexander Ramirez

LoL it is quiet similar now
care to explain how lol is quite similar?
In dota I can solo win games by being a good player.
That is impossible in lol.
That fact alone makes lol and dota completely different games. And makes dota superior.

Joshua Fisher
Joshua Fisher

Forced meta does exists in Dota2. When was the last time you saw splitpushing, creating space for carry for 20mins.
Forced meta is now snowball from min10 as a gorup of 5 since farming doesn't give u enough gold that a kill gives u

HoTS babies defend 7.xx patch.

Just check this image and get your delusional thoughts out of this thread. Thank you.

David Howard
David Howard

Dota 2 died the moment they removed my niqqa bananamancer and skeleton king

Colton Ortiz
Colton Ortiz

can't gank with riki, bh, slark
So you're a faggot too?
jungle is a safeplace
Stop
You can contest Rosh so therefore shrines are shit
Yeah leave

Playing well shouldn't be rewarded
ok

Metas changed and youre upset
TPs to shrines are OP? nigga how?
How many people actually pick gold/min? Do you know?
Yes bounty is nearly worthleess
Yes, xp is balanced, read patch notes

Nice timestamp

Andrew Cox
Andrew Cox

It's not

Xavier Hughes
Xavier Hughes

close game
enemy gets mega creeps
we pick off a couple of their heroes
tell my team we need to throw a five man hail-mary straight up mid if we want any chance of winning
"no we need to clear creeps first"
inevitably get chipped down until we lose

I always fucking hated how risk-averse people could be in that game, even down to the last minute. I'm the first to let a retard die by himself if he thinks 1v4 is a winning fight but there are even people playing initiators who are scared to die if they do their job initiating a fight. Nigger just blink in there, press R, and get killed in the confusion while we mop everything up, 'cos that's your job. Probably for the best that I stopped playing.

Carter Thomas
Carter Thomas

*blocks ur path*

Aaron Long
Aaron Long

Play nu-techies
Doing well enough
Get Blink dagger
Get into good position for sweet 1000 damage AoE 6 sec silence
Get Aghs and other shit
Get level 25
Blink along the trees
For twenty minutes straight place Red mines
Slowly shuffle them to their base as they push the ancient
Win
Between this and the +251 damage talent, Frosty toad knows how to meme.

Carson Ramirez
Carson Ramirez

I always fucking hated how risk-averse people could be in that game
its the fucking worst. even in turbo mode it can really get to me.

Asher Wright
Asher Wright

Dotards trying to defend a dying game when 7.xx especially showing plummeting playerbase, How can this game recover???

LoL is just superior nowadays with reworked runes and shit at least RIOT still cares about the game..

Dota2 is like a game made by garagedev team, buggy as fuck, no tutorial, arcade is a fucking mess for newcomers, get battlepass for 5 usd but you can only level up to lvl 75 then you have to buy levels up to 999 just to get a fucking limited use river skin. oh wait BP doesn't even exist anymore since they said they are working on it 6months ago.
Insane powerspike talents made this game shit and shrines, literally free save because u were shit but yeah no worry get healed cus free shine.

Gabriel Perez
Gabriel Perez

Meta changed for the worse and I am upset. How is that not a valid opinion?

TP to shrine not OP
Lmao.

It isn't just gold/mind.
Bounty isn't nearly worthless. It is a good boost to support.

Have they fixed bounty?

Nah. This game is garbage now. Playerbase reflects this. Streamers reflect this. Even pro players are bitching.

I have quit dota2 now and I am too lazy to install it again just to prove you wrong. Besides I heard MMR count is gone now with the medal count. Here is my MMR in source 1 in 2015. If you don't believe me fine.

Andrew Myers
Andrew Myers

In the last two tourneys

meta changed
you still cryin about it

Connor Lewis
Connor Lewis

Dotards
lawl how blu are your balls, dude.

William Parker
William Parker

both Dota and LoL starts taking shit from hots
hmmm.........

Colton Jenkins
Colton Jenkins

win hard for the first 20 minutes
lose one teamfight
suddenly tied

William Taylor
William Taylor

.

Liam Moore
Liam Moore

explain the different metas.

Leo Brown
Leo Brown

This always happened with a Void or AM regardless of the patch.

Carter Bennett
Carter Bennett

I uninstalled two weeks ago

laning together with my friend
lc/lich
we do so well that I get a 6 minute blink dagger
lose because our beaner slark fed 14 deaths
"lag"

motherfucker

Joshua Barnes
Joshua Barnes

Dota doesn't force me to play a specific team composition and mirrored lane layout.
Try again, retard

Hunter Jenkins
Hunter Jenkins

Dragging the game and letting the enemy catch up with farm and isolated kills

Joshua Cruz
Joshua Cruz

Dota2 is shit
can't solo win because shit memeback, >carries heavily nerfed while supports buffed to heaven cus MAH TALENTO
500x CC STUN, FORCE STAFF, GLIMMER so you can escape 500 times, glimmer was one of the worst item after force staff
shrines healback 4/5 hp also provides TP place to defend any kind of splitpush or jungle gank
bounties that give u free gold and xp by doing nothing on the map
jungle is useless as fuck literally no xp or gold rather just go on lane and get ganked you still get more out of it than farming jungle
forced 5man teamfights from early game
pick AOE dmg heroes to end teamfight fast
since 7.00 massive playerbase drop

Dota2 is shit, i rather play LoL and I hate LoL.

Josiah Nelson
Josiah Nelson

Playing DOTA without a 5 stack

Gavin Scott
Gavin Scott

I'm glad I'll never be as stupid as this user.

Connor Perry
Connor Perry

dotard
what does teamfight meta force you to pick dotard? I help you aoe nuke heroes like earthshaker larp larp
again lane structure doesn't matter that's right, because early game doesn't matter unlike in LoL.

David Turner
David Turner

can't solo win
stopped reading there, it's a team game for fucks sake you goddamn retard.

Connor Torres
Connor Torres

tfw just got done playing 6 hours straight with friends
tfw more fun than I've ever had in this game
mfw all these faggots bitching about changes

Asher Powell
Asher Powell

team game
People refuse to communicate, go down mid cus can't get mid or other stupid reason, TOXIC as fuck only communication is saying stupid shit about your mom, 0 teamwork in a team based game

just stop.

Charles Torres
Charles Torres

Some roles have large importance than others. I know I reached 6k playing mid exclusively because that is the only way to consistently gain MMR.

James Williams
James Williams

m-muh friends
what does this have to do with anything?

Brandon Gutierrez
Brandon Gutierrez

guys I played with friends at 1k mmr and we owned with pudge mid XDD LUL

Charles Martin
Charles Martin

LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWL

Tyler Edwards
Tyler Edwards

t.2k
all roles are equally important.

Nathan Collins
Nathan Collins

Friends make any game fun.
You could literally play monopoly with friends and it is fun as fuck. That doesn't mean the game isn't garbage.
Besides playing Dota2 with friends is the fastest way to make them not your friends. Personal experience.

Easton Edwards
Easton Edwards

it's not 2k, sadly communication isn't happening above 5k mmr either.

Cameron Gonzalez
Cameron Gonzalez

meta has changed for the worse IN MY OPINION
fuck off

tp to shrine wins the entire game
stop

It isnt just gold/min
Yes, it literally is
Not to mention the only large gold/min talents are at lvl 15, how does that fuckin matter so much

Yes they fixed bounty a while ago, maybe read shit
Just cause you can't instant pick your easy win hero anymore, you're angry. Fuck off, the pkaye rbase is better without YOU
2015
You dont know shit about Dota now

Asher Stewart
Asher Stewart

All roles are important.
Mid, Carry, Offlane has more impact.

Matthew Hughes
Matthew Hughes

It means you should try to not be such a lonely, insufferable asshole and actually socialize. unironically this. Except I'm having considerably more fun than you. I can't imagine spending 500+ dedicating my time to something then incessantly bitching about small changes. Sad!

Kayden Anderson
Kayden Anderson

PEOPLE STILL DEFEND 7.xx WHEN MANY MANY PEOPLE QUIT DURING 7.XX THAN ANY OTHER PATCH.

IMAGINE THE DOTARDS REEEEEING IN ANGER

Brandon Martinez
Brandon Martinez

From 2015 because that was when I took the screenshot. Doesn't mean I quit then as seen from me reaching 6.3k MMR. Jesus christ are you fucking stupid.

You are entitled to your opinion. Just like everyone is. The fact that this game is dropping in playerbase proves that something is wrong with this game.

Dominic Gutierrez
Dominic Gutierrez

the wards your support buys help you have any impact, you fucking soycore

Austin Ramirez
Austin Ramirez

Been playing with these guys for 3 years. Sure we've had our mid game tilts but at the end of the night it's always laughs. That's what's fantastic about playing with friends, you don't perma tilt then go to a basketweaving enthusiast forum to complain about minor gameplay changes to keep it from becoming stale. Every update for us has changed the game significantly and kept it fresh.

Anthony Walker
Anthony Walker

I have seen games where supports are garbage and yet the team won.
I rarely ever see games where the cores are garbage and even with a stellar performance by the support (good rotation, good smokes) end with the that team winning.

Jayden Butler
Jayden Butler

all roles equally important
That's why I see so many supports and not cores on the highest mmr scoreboard right?

https://www.dota2.com/leaderboards/

ughh ughhh

Levi Barnes
Levi Barnes

dropping player count
Games better off without your filth

http://steamcharts.com/app/570

Jaxon Hernandez
Jaxon Hernandez

Good for you. Just because it changes doesn't mean that people should continually play it simply because it changed. It has to be a good change. Otherwise people will leave. Like post 7.xx.

Justin James
Justin James

http://steamcharts.com/app/570
literally lawbreaker

Jordan Ortiz
Jordan Ortiz

Wow you sure showed me!

Nathan Flores
Nathan Flores

im so turned on and i just got vomited on.

Levi Jenkins
Levi Jenkins

Best game (with competent teammates)

Colton Myers
Colton Myers

?

Jaxon Watson
Jaxon Watson

And in my opinion I think the changes have been good. As I said earlier, it's more fun than ever.

Jackson Thomas
Jackson Thomas

lying doesn't help your cause, user

Caleb Lopez
Caleb Lopez

still holds up

Zachary Watson
Zachary Watson

Happened to be offline atm, check out later, and see how many support there are to cores, I help you predict your future: 1:5 ratio.

Chase Rodriguez
Chase Rodriguez

or the game is over 5 years old and people are moving on to pubg. That doesn't mean the game is bad in it's current state. I'd like you to show me any game that has not started to tapper off after 5 years. People are leaving league too. Battle Royale is the genre now not mobas.

Jack Thompson
Jack Thompson

i'd rather you just kill yourself, honestly

Benjamin Lewis
Benjamin Lewis

Good for you. I hope you enjoy this game.

Go ahead and prove me wrong.

Carter Collins
Carter Collins

HotS > Dota 2 > HoN> Lawbreakers > LoL

Daniel Sullivan
Daniel Sullivan

Go ahead and prove me wrong.
but you never proved yourself right

Anthony Thomas
Anthony Thomas

Have an hour and ten minute game where we held with only our ancient and one barrack and won
Next match get shitstomped in 20 minutes making the last victory 100% pointless
Im not mad at all. Definitely doesnt make me hate this stupid genre of game even more than i already do.

Ethan Rivera
Ethan Rivera

im laughing that people complaining about the change and pretend to no longer play even go into this topics still. that really went over your head.

Hudson Allen
Hudson Allen

Dota isn't 5 years old. Dota started with War3 and its playerbase has been climbing till it dropped now.

Hunter Turner
Hunter Turner

HotS > Dota
mb if you're a retard. HotS is a game designed around players not having to think about anything

Thomas Powell
Thomas Powell

Still holds up

Shouldn't it even retain players if it is a good patch? Especially since it was a big patch and so far we got 3 new heroes and many items and map changes? I wonder what happened user. LUL

I can't accept reality
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Julian Kelly
Julian Kelly

"pretend to no longer play"
Log in
Everyone is 25 at 30m except the pos 5
Nah, i'd rather not

Evan Scott
Evan Scott

https://www.dotabuff.com/esports/leagues/5850-dota-summit-8
Here is dota2 summit 8 games.
Go ahead and pick a random game.
All the games you pick, the winning team will have cores that played well.
None of the games you pick will have the winning with garbage cores but good support.

There is a reason the Maelk award exist but the inverse doesn't.

Ayden Baker
Ayden Baker

when you know you just abolished him

James Bailey
James Bailey

what are you even raging about?

Samuel Barnes
Samuel Barnes

yeah I sure did abolish him, didn't I?

Aiden White
Aiden White

A good game turned into a bing bing wahoo fest with free gold and xp given out

Austin Powell
Austin Powell

You have no clue about the dota all star numbers. You are delusional

Levi Sanchez
Levi Sanchez

but the good cores also have good supports, your point is nonexistent

Ethan Murphy
Ethan Murphy

You think Dota all stars number had bigger numbers than Dota2?

Chase Jones
Chase Jones

No it's me who you replied to as I see your brain failed to make this connection so I had to reply to this.

literally can't argue back so uses personal attacks totally irrelevant to the discussion LUL what a failure.

Parker Thomas
Parker Thomas

contain your autism.

Cameron Smith
Cameron Smith

Good cores have good supports
But there have been games where there were good cores despite bad supports.
There have been almost no games won where there were bad cores and good supports.

I am not sure how you don't understand this simple fact.

William Harris
William Harris

last match over a year and a half ago

games that require you to neckbeard harder than everyone else to have fun are retarded

Grayson Sullivan
Grayson Sullivan

It's not shit guys I promise, people quit because dota2 is good.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

Tyler Hughes
Tyler Hughes

It's obvious you are both retarded and upset so I'll just leave you alone.

Lincoln Jones
Lincoln Jones

No but you have 0 evidence that the dota all stars was growing before dota 2 came out. Most people moved on to HoN which is why so many dota pros were HoN pros. So dota was not growing since the original came out.

Ian Reed
Ian Reed

if your core is doing bad it's the support's fault for not providing the core with proper support. Looks like I win.

Connor Lopez
Connor Lopez

Looks like I win.
i hope so. support NEED to be sucking dick because when i play support you bet your ass im on my knees and i expect the same love shown back when i go core

Elijah Brown
Elijah Brown

Core free farms 20min cus space created for him by supports, core goes into 1v5 and dies or bad itemisation and straight lose...

I hope you get by now.

Henry Russell
Henry Russell

I've played hundreds of hours with some of my friends, it's really just up to what type of people you and your friends are. If you and your mates can be more easygoing in a competitive environment and criticize/accept criticism in a calm and constructive way it makes for a far better time. If you're really fiercely competitive and prone to lash out at mistakes shit gets a bit more dicey, since spending the better part of an hour trying to win a game can sour a mood really quickly when things go pear-shaped.

Christopher Robinson
Christopher Robinson

f your core is doing bad it's the support's fault for not providing the core with proper support
That is bullshit and you know it. Because people never complained about Peruvians picking mid and then feeding?

Bentley Martinez
Bentley Martinez

Really the majority of truly fun games I've experienced in my life was playing with a few skilled friends to execute silly combo/cheese/semi-tryhard strats.

I never actually met these guys in person, but still

Cameron Butler
Cameron Butler

How many times have we seen
Scientist are BAFFLED
This is rocket science and has been recorded happening in PRO GAMES before where EE's team does everything to get him fed and then EE proceeds to fucking throw the game.

John Lopez
John Lopez

if you're core is literally braindead retarded and actively doing everything in their power to fail you'll lose
wow what a revelation!

Nathaniel Howard
Nathaniel Howard

dota2 is just shit, move on it has it goods time but the game is old and patches aren't improving the game.

Logan Rogers
Logan Rogers

post ranks

Andrew Edwards
Andrew Edwards

Backpedalling
Hurr durr

Landon White
Landon White

above 6k 80% of players are cores

explain larper.

Cameron Wilson
Cameron Wilson

EE is 8k and you will NEVER be better than him at this game or achieve even 10% of what he has won in Dota2 and yet he is still prone to mistakes.

You think the average players in your pub games don't make the same mistakes? You are fucking delusional.

Juan Perry
Juan Perry

durr backpedalling
b-but what if the c-core dies 40 times and can't last hit?! ha I knew it of course you lose!

Isaac Watson
Isaac Watson

make a mistake and lose
this means the overwhelming majority of games with subpar cores and exceptional supports are losses

Christopher Nelson
Christopher Nelson

But you can still win if your support feeds over 20 kills. That is what the Maelk award is.
But you can't win if your core feeds over 20 kills.

The term "Maelk Award", which some players might use, refers to jD Masters Semi Finals, where Evil Geniuses faced Mousesports. After an extremely long game, Maelk, playing Venomancer, finished the game with 0/20/21 stats, while still winning the game.

Jonathan Morales
Jonathan Morales

Cores making mistake have heavier in game penalty than supports.
They have larger networths. They have longer death timer. They deal more damage and have more importance in teamfights.

These are facts. But keep backpedaling.

Owen Gutierrez
Owen Gutierrez

but you can't win if your core feeds over 20 kills
but that venomancer wasn't a core

Aiden Carter
Aiden Carter

That venomancer was support. 21 deaths on a support is garbage and yet his team still won. That is the point.

Good cores have more importance than good supports.

Jaxon Robinson
Jaxon Robinson

That's why they won despite veno had 20 deaths, imagine a core with a stat like 0-20.

btw CORE is in his name even, don't tell me all roles all equal LOL.

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