How do Free Software creators even make a living? Do they all just live off...

Ryder Hernandez
Ryder Hernandez

How do Free Software creators even make a living? Do they all just live off welfare? I don't think they would make enough off donations alone to survive, do they?

Anthony Wright
Anthony Wright

yeah

James Reed
James Reed

They get paid by their employer you fucking moron, or they sell support for their product, or they do it in their free time. Look it up and stop creating garbage threads

Gavin King
Gavin King

by getting a fucking job you idiot

Thomas Bennett
Thomas Bennett

A programming job? For a company that produces proprietary software?

Benjamin Lopez
Benjamin Lopez

They can pay the employee(s) to work on open and/or free software to assist in some other aspect of their corporation. It's not rocket science

Brayden Gray
Brayden Gray

but then how do those companies make money

Alexander Hall
Alexander Hall

There are companies that need software developed that aren't software companies dipshit.

Carson Howard
Carson Howard

You think every single division in a company makes money for the company? Are you stupid or underage? Where does an internal IT support department generate revenue?

Austin Gomez
Austin Gomez

666
nice

Jacob Cook
Jacob Cook

I'd make non-proprietary software all the time if I knew how to program, I'm just too dumb for programming :(

Nathan Wood
Nathan Wood

/thread

Justin Ross
Justin Ross

I'm just too dumb for programming :(
No you're not. You just have to stop being beta cuck defeatist and actually put effort into it.

William Lewis
William Lewis

This. Get a programming book, any one, a notebook, and a computer, and get to work. You're not getting any younger

Jordan Brooks
Jordan Brooks

The heavy lift is done by professionals paid by big corporations. The fat geek in his mom's basement creates mplayer skins.
Hope that helps.

Levi Thompson
Levi Thompson

Guys, I'm reading "The C Programming Language" and the exercises make no sense to me, I also suck at math!

Jeremiah Cox
Jeremiah Cox

how2contribute to the linux kernek

Daniel Campbell
Daniel Campbell

You need to practice, practice, practice. Some things come easy for some people, but those same people struggle with things you'd find easy.
Go on GitHub, claim an issue, fix it, create a pull request, get it accepted. Just like basically any other open source contribution

Josiah Perez
Josiah Perez

They create open source software so they can list it on their github and eventually get recruited by a proprietary software company.

Jonathan Kelly
Jonathan Kelly

I know, but knowing that programming isn't easy for me, just makes me want to cry myself to sleep every night, I really don't wanna do anything else.

Austin Allen
Austin Allen

something is hard
better give up
either find a new life goal or study like you actually want to learn how to write competent code. We're not here to hold your hand and make you feel like a smart boy. You need to take control of your own life and stop making excuses with your defeatist attitude

Mason Reed
Mason Reed

OP makes a good point.

Leo Rivera
Leo Rivera

By keeping the other depts. productive.

Joseph Thompson
Joseph Thompson

they have jobs

Mason Reyes
Mason Reyes

And those of us who actually know what we're talking about made good counter points
keeping other departments productive
same thing as generating direct revenue
while you are correct, IT support departments generate exactly 0 revenue from their actions. The company pays them to keep the other departments running, but they do not get paid by some external source for doing so

Aiden Reed
Aiden Reed

And those of us who actually know what we're talking about made good counter points
you seem upset

Asher Brown
Asher Brown

you seem to have run out of actual arguments. OP had a question, we answered it

Joshua Evans
Joshua Evans

I'm not arguing. I'm just an observer observing all the good points ITT

Noah Nguyen
Noah Nguyen

an open source programmer's endgame

Ian Ramirez
Ian Ramirez

So why "observe" op having a point and ignoring all the other valid points?

Camden Martin
Camden Martin

because OP was the first post I read

Luis Thompson
Luis Thompson

ok cool bro

Michael Cook
Michael Cook

Can confirm. Cannot even get an internship with a crappy company anymore without at least 3 or 4 of your own projects on github.

Gavin Rodriguez
Gavin Rodriguez

while you are correct, IT support departments generate exactly 0 revenue from their actions. The company pays them to keep the other departments running, but they do not get paid by some external source for doing so
Building maintenance doesn't bring in any revenue either, yet most companies continue to pay them good money. Very strange.

Cameron Sullivan
Cameron Sullivan

Some companies also use free software because it's cheaper than building something from the ground up, add functionality to it because they want it to do something it doesn't, and contribute those changes back to the project because GPL.

Aaron Hernandez
Aaron Hernandez

Since free software may be freely redistributed, it is generally available at little or no fee. Free software business models[45] are usually based on adding value such as applications, support, training, customization, integration, or certification

Lincoln Morgan
Lincoln Morgan

I managed to get a job with 0 public repositories
Exactly, thank you for further proving my point. My point is that companies keep departments that don't generate revenue, because asked how do companies make money (in relation to open source development) as if companies only have departments that generate revenue. Please follow the conversation

David Kelly
David Kelly

Very strange.
It's not strange at all. In fact you seem to be missing his point. The benefits of paying for maintenance far outweigh the cost savings of not doing it.

Likewise, google, facebook, amazon, even fucking microsoft, all pay developers to work on linux software and linux kernel development. The benefits of paying these developers to work on free software far outweigh the cost savings of letting it go unfunded. They make billions of dollars off of linux and linux infrastructure.

Adrian Brooks
Adrian Brooks

are you 12 years old?

Michael Gomez
Michael Gomez

Are (((you)))?

Charles Watson
Charles Watson

this guy is confirmed as a 12 year old

Jordan Parker
Jordan Parker

Now, now, children. user provided an argument which was debated against (mostly) politely. There is no reason to turn the thread into a "no, you're (((younger)))" shit throwing competition

Leo Brown
Leo Brown

this guy is confirmed as a 12 year old

Adrian Lopez
Adrian Lopez

yeah except that's exactly what a 12 year old would say. they would just copy my post exactly

lmao this guy is actually 12 years old guys hahahah

Jonathan Bailey
Jonathan Bailey

code is a not a program
a program need not have an application
an application need not provide an economically useful benefit
an application is not a platform
a platform need not have users
users need not provide revenue
revenue need not yield profit
let's all just kill ourself this instant from existential dread
...I don't even work in IT and I just realized my own shitpost was so unoriginal that I read something similar someplace before. If it wasn't Paul Graham or HackerNews it was some shit they and Reddit like.

Then I had to go find Mr. Bean.

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