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2. Are you a commie? why/why not?

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Sweden

Fuck no, commies are the worst. They also shoot down our airplanes.

I was a commie back in kindergarten, then they taught us about respecting ownership of property

>triggered

Not any more than I consider myself a svecoman of a fennoman. Pretending to be a part of an outdated political affiliation seems like a pathetic attempt for a grasp at attention rather than any sincere political conviction.

>muh BUK.

Fucking CRT screens and 80s joysticks. No wonder the slavs confuse fighter jets with malaysian airliners if they use that old crap.

canada

because i am not retarded

D-doctor?

where you been

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No, because any south american should know better by this point, although the same could be said for the whole world.

opps meant to write no

Hello bro, see you're still on the Sup Forums carousel

It's me, not much has changed, how are you feeling though? Hopefully the headaches are gone and you're managed to get that potential gas leak examined.

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20th century communism is dead, and it died as a horrific failure.

where do we go from here?

>tfw it hasnt

i've just accepted it now i'm still getting dizzy and shit

Not an expert, but wouldn't China's communo-capitalist scheme be of your liking?

>not even a democracy

m8, the most reliable sign of CO poisoning from NG leakage is an unrelenting headache

Also, experiment with using a screen filter like flux/android-whatever to reduce visual strain headaches

Also, manage your ADHD if you suffer from it by practising relaxation techniques and meditation

These three tend to address most headaches in the millennial generation

fuck im just worried about permanent damage dude

do you think it could be permanent from so much exposure? Or does it go away after a while if it's just a relatively low level?

go to a doctor you fucking retard

I wouldn't count on permanent damage, you would be comatosed at this point had the toxicity levels been significant

Do you have a bit of tension in your posterior neck muscles? Certain muscles and nerves can get 'sheared' by constant stooping in front of a computer, causing what we call a 'cervicogenic headache' (inb4 the International Headache Society didn't classify that, fuck off med students)

Also sometimes a latent squint means the headache is because you need glasses (and a decent optometric exam)

A brutal one party controlling everything is a cornerstone of communism so if you like living under a boot then that is definitely one option.

No

Because I dont live in Melbourne

yes

i want someone else to make things for me if his/her body is able to do it. i hate those who are too rich and don't want to share. they don't need so much wealth, especially while some people are literally starving. resources are not unlimited

Yes, because I'm a moral person who believes in a just society

I am still living under the Prophets foot, so any dictatorial regime change would be welcome

it followed in the footsteps of Stalins USSR far too much.
The modern day incarnation of the PRC still produces as many horrific situations for hundreds of millions of people, to call it communist is merely playing lip service to the cunts past.

However like many communist or marxist projects, its beginnings are something to take notes from.

But property is a meme. It's wrong if you have ten apples while people around you are starving.

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Fair enough lad

Property is theft

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Because of my flag (=history) I hate any kind of socialism.

They can do me a favor and I'll give them an apple for their work. Especially if I grew those apples why should they get one for nothing?

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>Also sometimes a latent squint means the headache is because you need glasses (and a decent optometric exam)

I have horrendous eyesight, have been considering getting laser eye surgery done, can't decide though

>I wouldn't count on permanent damage, you would be comatosed at this point had the toxicity levels been significant

So are you saying it's likely just acute levels for prolonged period of time causing this? That's at least good. Idk dude i think i'm going insane, i've had paranoid episodes and shit before.

I used to dream about my friends and family trying to kill me before

>Property is theft

can i have ur things pls :)

this australian dude is shilling for weeks now, getting annoying

There you have it, it's obviously glasses that are your remedy! Common issue among underperfoming children/students, even in the most developed nations.

Thank you for your enlightening explanation, I can stop triggering Islamists with their dependence on Chinese interest loans and start using something else

But hasn't central destribution of property always failed? What about the Venezuela food crisis?

>There you have it, it's obviously glasses that are your remedy!

i have glasses bro...

How old? When's your last eyesight check?

a few months ;-;

Also, the optometrician doesn't regularly check for a hidden/latent squint (you mentioned a squint a few months back), it needs a special tool to find and can be corrected with glasses

im not going to be making it bro

I feel pressure in my head when i bend over

Are you overweight? It could be IIH. (We've literally covered everything else that we can over the internet and not a physical)

If property is theft isn't the property who do you steal from when you get private property?

I'm not particularly lean at the moment but not very overweight

fuck it i guess i'll see my GP again and see what she says

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Nope

There's condition characterized by deteriorating eyesight and perpetual headaches, especially with a change in posture.

It was called Benign Intracranial Hypertension (they changed it's name), and is fantastically easy to diagnose and treat. All you need is an indirect ophthalmoscopy exam and it's a prescription

Weight loss has massive benefits

Yes.

Because I currently do not benefit from our current, Capitalist system, its it is it my interest to support what benefits me, etc.

going to see GP again then and explain everything

i need to figure this shit out, my feet start tingling/go numb when i elevate them btw. Like if i'm lying on my back then i raise my knee and put my opposing leg on top of it horizontally

is that a bad sign? It's very consistent

That's not the most alarming sign, could be anything from the space between the hemispheres down to the bottom of your spine, especially if it's easily reproducible like you said

A good physical and neuro will clear things up

I will stop being a communist once somebody provides a proper defense of wage labor

21st century communism

>once somebody provides a proper defense of wage labor

What is there to provide a defense of?

Do you believe people voluntarily should not be able to exchange their labor for an agreed upon wage? What is wrong with this exactly

There should be no minimum wage. Its a violation of human rights and freedom.

true, i'll check into it more

this sucks

1. No. Why? Look at my flag and guess.

Yes
It is good.

I believe that the ownership class should not be allowed to siphon off value generated by laborers simply because it holds capital.
that is the textbook definition of being a leech. society has no room for freeloaders like that.

Why shouldn't it?

It's not in our interests as workers.

Yes it is, how else would you rather have it?

Also speak for yourself I'm not one of you workers

>how else would you rather have it?
Union ownership of the means of production.

> I'm not one of you workers
I know. You're a uni student who has never worked a day in his life.

>Union ownership of the means of production.

How is that suppose to work, so like random fucktards working in a factory have ownership of it?

>I know. You're a uni student who has never worked a day in his life.

I am an entrepreneur and I have money in the market than your entire family networth

Not random. Every worker owns the factory. Management decisions are made democratically, as unions already do for their own internal operations.

>I am an entrepreneur
Mhmm sure lad. Another temporarily embarrassed millionaire.

>Management decisions are made democratically, as unions already do for their own internal operations.

They'll run the fucking factory into the ground lmao

No wonder you're poor, your thinking skills are seriously messed up

What does a CEO produce?
What does the portfolio manager make?
While, yes they have a 'job' in the capitalist system, take that away and they have nothing

What does the industrial worker produce?
What does the farmer make?
Take away the system and you have products and goods, real material objects.

Why should a Manager take the products of the workers labour and make profit off it? The system is rigged to perpetuate the upper management class and hold down the working class by oppressing them with a system created by the upper class, for the upper class.

So we ostensibly trust the people to control government, with which most have no familiarity, but they're too stupid to control the job they work at 40+ hours a week.

Liberal logic.

>They'll run the fucking factory into the ground lmao

What makes you think that? if you own a business it should be in your interest not to run it into the ground, and select people who will manage it well.

>it's not popular with normies so it must be bad

the idea is to educate these people so they can, thusly removing the need for bourgeoise government

>Why should a Manager take the products of the workers labour and make profit off it?

Because workers voluntarily agreed to do a certain task for a given wage/salary.

It's that simple, why does that seem wrong to you? Do you believe people shouldn't be allowed to sell their labor to someone else?

>What does the portfolio manager make?

A portfolio manager is hired to manage people's money and provide safe and steady returns. What kind of question is this? He's paid for producing a service, if you were capable of producing that service you would also be paid as well as he is for managing other peoples' money.

>but they're too stupid to control the job they work at 40+ hours a week.

It's not their place or job to do so, I don't even understand what you mean by this.

You decide to work for someone's company and you think that's unfair. I don't get it, if you don't want to do then just start your own company if you're so smart

>They'll run the fucking country into the ground lmao

21st century communism

It will involve robots

>it's not popular that must mean it's a hidden gem that's actually smart but overlooked by every major country in the world

If you want to run a business then start your own, I don't see what the problem is

China literally combines the worst aspects of Marxism-Leninism with the worst aspects of capitalism

>If you want to run a business then start your own
That's what we want to do.
We seize the means of production from those who produce nothing and start our own worker-owned outfit.

>That's not fair because
deal with it faggot. There's more of us than you

Albert Einstein wasn't an economist

Why even post that? What he said has literally no weight or value at all

But you didn't grow those apples. You either inherited the apples or at least the seeds.

And by hoarding so many apples, you're preventing others from getting seeds and growing their own apples!

>deal with it faggot. There's more of us than you

But you're not going to do anything

Every single major country in the world is capitalist, no matter what you post here about "taking the means of production back" is irrelevant, it's not happening in any major country and it never will.

Capitalist will always rule supreme

By the way even if there's more of you, with our money we can buy the newest technology and afford to kill you off

Come seize the means of production :^)

It's way too easy to get caught up in statism when property is managed centrally.

Labor unions, not federal governments, should build communism.

your smugness now will just make it that much more satisfying when the chair is eventually kicked out from under you

>Because workers voluntarily agreed to do a certain task for a given wage/salary.

They did not voluntarily agree, the worker has no other choice, join the system or die. What is a man without money? useless and powerless.
Money isnt some law of nature, its a construct. The idea of money is abstract, its a ghost haunting you, a spook.

The idea is for the workers to seize the products of the labour, to cut out the middle man who only uses the product to turn a profit, Nothing else.
How does the profit help the worker? You could argue that it can be returned into the system he labours but couldnt the products he made do that aswell?

The head of JP morgan bank, Jamie Dimon, is paid 12 000 dollars an hour. Over 80 000 people in his business are paid 10 dollars or less an hour, thats low enough to be under the poverty line in the US.
What right does Jamie Dimon have to that money, did he earn the 27 million dollars a year he takes home every year?

Ill be waiting

Where is this going to happen? Which major country has ANY sizable political party that agrees with you? Point one out

Curious, are you a member of the Japanese Communist Party?

>If you want to run a business then start your own, I don't see what the problem is

Not having the capital for that is a problem. You can;t just prop up a business out of thin air.

>what even is an opinion
>what is philosophy
>believing that only an economist can have a view of economics

spooky post

monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/

>What right does Jamie Dimon have to that money, did he earn the 27 million dollars a year he takes home every year?

Yes, he objectively deserves the money that he earns.

That's how it works, if you don't like it try looking for some new planet that agrees with your opinions

>Not having the capital for that is a problem. You can;t just prop up a business out of thin air.

You can start a business with very little these days, you can get bank loans/private investors

Is this a joke post? Japan has the largest communist party in the world outside of China and Cuba

>Yes, he objectively deserves the money that he earns.

How can capitalism go on forever if it's centered around growth?

Because the growth ain't stoppin' baby

>Is this a joke post? Japan has the largest communist party in the world outside of China and Cuba

How much percentage of the vote did they get in the last election?

this has been some good bait well done you canacuck

The tripled in representation. The Communists are eating into the centre-left

>MFW

If this is the largest communist party in the world then I don't think this is getting very far

Ok whatever, I'll be waiting

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Growth isn't inevitable. Eventually there will be too few resources!

no but i like me some CUMMIE!

More resources will be made

Probably found on a new planet or the technology will extend and find better usage of resources

France, yes of course.

The fact that a semi socialist party has gotten so far through a system designed to keep the status quo as capitalist as possible is impressive.

Infinite growth on a planet with finite resources is contradictory

We already produced unsustainable amounts of waste

>The fact that a semi socialist party has gotten so far through a system designed to keep the status quo as capitalist as possible is impressive.

The people want capitalism

>Infinite growth on a planet with finite resources is contradictory

Technology can be invented.

Thanks to capitalism of course there is incentive to innovate. The people who figure out how to mine resources from new planets or utilize resources more efficiently will be ridiculously rich

Either way, what's the point of this?

Seems like you're just bitter some people have money and you don't. You can try earning money like them instead of being mad

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