/wt/ - Watch Thread -Financial Advice Edition

Benjamin Gomez
Benjamin Gomez

This thread is about the appreciation of whorology, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.

Required viewing for noobies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBFI8ScdE4E

Strap Guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Watch essentials 102:
http://pastebin.com/VBAu4Rwi

Previous Thread:
/g/thread/63350953#p63350953

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBFI8ScdE4E
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
http://pastebin.com/VBAu4Rwi
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/another-borealis-estoril-300-review-3345658.html
http://www.swatchgroup.com/brands_and_companies
https://monochrome-watches.com/seikos-affinity-to-hi-beat-movement-part-one/
https://youtu.be/uwJ9TbkNigs
https://omegaforums.net/threads/chronographs-vertical-and-horizontal-coupling.5539/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-speedmaster-speedy-tuesday-problems.63862/
https://youtu.be/Vye-ahdNVHc
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ablogtowatch.com/watchmaker-compares-omega-seamaster-timepieces-caliber-1120-2500-8500-movements/amp/
http://www.rolexmagazine.com/2009/05/rolex-macro-shot-of-day-black-dial.html
http://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/d255395286
Dominic Morris
Dominic Morris

Post your swatches

Connor Lopez
Connor Lopez

/g/thread/63350953#p63358323

Many years and it has been on many deployments when I was a military contractor. Doesn't see much of that anymore though given my current career.

Lucas Jenkins
Lucas Jenkins

/g/thread/63350953#p63358288

thinks a Tissel or Skwalleeee isn't objectively dog shit in comparison to a sub

either trolling or hasn't ever put a luxury watch on his wrist.

/g/thread/63350953#p63358414

design alone is what the price of a watch is based off of

Juan Rogers
Juan Rogers

/g/thread/63350953#p63356032
Looks like its happening like clockwork

I'll post pictures tommorow

Camden Morgan
Camden Morgan

Mark 4.5 > Mark II

Jace King
Jace King

For jews
That's Rolex. Omega is for goys, by jews.

Grayson Edwards
Grayson Edwards

posting chink knock offs

William Ross
William Ross

Why don't you buy Swatch like real rich people?

Samuel Walker
Samuel Walker

/g/thread/63350953#p63358414
It's a beautiful design you are just too much of a pleb to understand it's beauty. At least they didn't steal their design, unlike Rolex.

Alexander Perry
Alexander Perry

Fatbrah, can you post full collection?

Angel Green
Angel Green

reduced my collection to my explorer ii, sbdc051 and my gshock for work so that I can add a MKII

Although that 4.5 is nice looking canadian bro

Daniel Ward
Daniel Ward

A squale is BETTER quality than a submariner. I said it. Squale has a real history in the military, rolex was built for posers

Alexander Morris
Alexander Morris

Fuck Canada and their import fees while we're at it. I once had to pay 400 dollars on a 4000 dollar watch just in import fees. Never buying a really expensive watch overseas again.

Justin Carter
Justin Carter

Cool protective stickers there.

Landon Campbell
Landon Campbell

still no arguments
Explain to me how the fucking build quality, the fucking design and the FUCKING UNTOUCHABLE (because PP marketing is right, you never really do own this watch 100%) movement grants 8k USED.
inb4 muh le heritage muh history muh haute memelogy

Kayden Foster
Kayden Foster

For some reason in my experience with Seiya Japan it skips the fees. Through watchbuys I had to pay out the ass for fees but Seiya japan slips through

Jonathan Wright
Jonathan Wright

I got you

Evan Wilson
Evan Wilson

Have you held a Patek? Patek has ALWAYS been one of the most pretentious watch companies. They have a long history of providing timepieces to royalty and celebrities alike.

And yes, a lot of it too is MUH CRAFTSMUSHIP. Again, unless you've held the 3919 in your hands you honestly have no idea.

Tell me, what would you buy with 8K used, hm?

Owen Evans
Owen Evans

Beautiful collection. Is that a GW5000 I see there?

Cooper Campbell
Cooper Campbell

It's a 5610. I should get a 5000 eventually though.

Camden Watson
Camden Watson

That Seiko. I have recently gotten more interested in digital watches, especially those older ones with stainles steel. How much was it?

Samuel Johnson
Samuel Johnson

Kind of miss the 5610, it was a great simple watch. The 5000 is great, owned that too, really feels like a luxury square G.

Charles Ward
Charles Ward

You may not like it, but this is what a quality high end watch looks like

Lincoln Davis
Lincoln Davis

About $200 USD on Yahoo! Japan Auctions and you'll have to be patient to find one because only about 5-10 a year get listed. Search for "Seiko s760" in looking for one.

Jose Hernandez
Jose Hernandez

Preorders on new run of Borealis Estorils with bracelets and new options, I'm pretty tempted. I always have been a sucker for the new seamaster 300 but fuck that cuckaxial swatch bullshit. I already preordered an NTH devil ray last month so another watch is hard to justify right now.

Michael Moore
Michael Moore

I just want to make Omega males squirm; their writhing brings me immense pleasure.

Grayson Torres
Grayson Torres

Thanks mate, appreciate it.

Connor Martinez
Connor Martinez

I meant Swatch males.

Jordan Lopez
Jordan Lopez

I'd be interested in seeing an actual picture of the case. The logo is a bit too goofy for me though.

Omega males describes them pretty accurately.

Alexander Gray
Alexander Gray

that seiko on the bottom right is just way too fucking big. But overall nice collection

Sebastian Sullivan
Sebastian Sullivan

Here's last year's at least http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/another-borealis-estoril-300-review-3345658.html

Landon Lewis
Landon Lewis

Sorry for stealing all your (You)s by posting that user

Nicholas Green
Nicholas Green

i think 2 people have speed masters one guy has an x33 and seiko bro has another one; I don't know of many other swatch/omega males on wt. People make fun of seiko males because they literally only recommend seiko's and they cannot possibly be the best buy at every price point. It is clearly apple tier delusion in some cases. Ib4 I am a swatch male the Thread with the gs and the thread with the seiko observatory movement are both threads i made. I like seiko but some of you mother fuckers need to take a step back.

Leo Perez
Leo Perez

Swatch male.

Robert Stewart
Robert Stewart

Breguet, Blancpain, Glashütte Original, Jaquet Droz, and Longines are all good brands so i guess i am okay with that

Aaron Flores
Aaron Flores

Longines
????

Leo Miller
Leo Miller

http://www.swatchgroup.com/brands_and_companies

Tyler Johnson
Tyler Johnson

Sorry I meant
Good
????

Noah Martin
Noah Martin

i guess modern longines and modern omega are pretty shit tier so i retract that. Good call. I honestly just went on their website and realized swatch ripped out their insides

Nolan Stewart
Nolan Stewart

Longines can be good, some of their heritage models are really nice. However 90 percent of their watches are just absolute shitters.

Vintage Longines offer really nice value

Josiah Collins
Josiah Collins

Look what came in the mail just in time for... Thanksgiving.

Asher Sullivan
Asher Sullivan

Anti-Omega lads, do you like the Speedmaster?

Nolan Wilson
Nolan Wilson

Sure, agreed on vintage longines.

Elijah Gonzalez
Elijah Gonzalez

ah how do you tell the time?

Nathaniel Cook
Nathaniel Cook

The ghosts move

Jonathan Ramirez
Jonathan Ramirez

How does this work?

Cooper Baker
Cooper Baker

Jesus Christ what the fuck is that??????????????????????????????????

Gabriel Cox
Gabriel Cox

I mean, orient beats out the cheap Seiko divers and some 1k-4k watches beat Seiko, but most of the posts here are either low priced or talking about watches few people here will see in person. It's just based on the areas that are desirable in this thread.

Grayson Lopez
Grayson Lopez

It's a longines ultra quartz. It uses a quartz crystal running at 9(!)Khz to regulate an Accutron-style index wheel running at 170hz. The remarkable thing is that unlike the contemporary beta 21, it uses only analog circuit components, no IC, which saved power at the time.

Gabriel Adams
Gabriel Adams

the ghosts are the hands

I'm going to put in a new battery, change the strap, and I'll make a time lapse webm of the ghosts going around and everyone on /wt/ will be so jealous they'll throw their Speedies in the trash.

Asher Nguyen
Asher Nguyen

I am not anti-omega at all. Vintage omega is probably my favorite watch company on earth. Before i got into watches i really wanted a speedmaster. I really really really wanted a speedmaster. After learning a lot more about watches and getting into movement design i really can't bring myself to want a horizontal clutch chronograph no matter what watch its in. It is also larger than i personally am comfortable with having tiny 7 inch wrists. I also became more and more disillusioned as i learned of hands falling off during launch and crystals popping out during eva's. Instead of getting a speedmaster i have decided to get a vintage chronometer 561 movement based watch.

Henry Sullivan
Henry Sullivan

That's fucking crazy

Benjamin Lee
Benjamin Lee

A fine choice, but curious, why the 561 and not the 564?

David Reed
David Reed

Really good article on high beat movements from Seiko and the race to 10bps.

https://monochrome-watches.com/seikos-affinity-to-hi-beat-movement-part-one/

Didn't realize the Lord Marvel was the 1st high beat from Seiko. Makes me even happier I got mine back today.

Robert Hernandez
Robert Hernandez

The marketing from longines at the time was amazing.
quartz: 8KHz
ULTRA QUARTZ: 9KHz BABY!

Michael Hughes
Michael Hughes

How's it running?

Oliver Peterson
Oliver Peterson

Really well. So far no loss or gain basically. Shane also mentioned making sure I wind it to full everday approx around the same time.

Xavier Ortiz
Xavier Ortiz

change the strap
Why would you ever do that? Also, congrats. That is by far my favorite Swatch.

Zachary Martin
Zachary Martin

Can't have poor endlink fitment if you don't have endlinks

Adrian Gutierrez
Adrian Gutierrez

noice candabrah... cant wait for my perlon to arrive for my white dial seiko

Nathaniel Ramirez
Nathaniel Ramirez

No real reason i just like the whole 100,000 consecutive 561 chronometers.I know the 564 has a quickset date. Honestly when it comes down to it at the end of this year If i like the watch the 564 is in better id probably get that.

Adrian Ramirez
Adrian Ramirez

Yeah, I'd like it even more if it was 38mm but I still really like the design and exterior finishing on it.

Ayden Sanders
Ayden Sanders

fuck that's a nice camera

John Hernandez
John Hernandez

Ive never handled one up close. Not a huge fan of the dial but was just comparing it the other watches in the box. It looks like its the size of the skx. I am sure they are excellent watches but for some reason that pattern throws me off. Its like marmite you like it or you don't.

Adam Rodriguez
Adam Rodriguez

Any Slav/Jap shit with a reddish brown face like pic related?

Kayden Harris
Kayden Harris

Agree with what you said, vintage Omega was awesome. Mind explaining why the horizontal clutch sucks though?

561. great movement. I owned the 564 movement in a vintage constellation, it was stunning when I popped the back open. Better looking than some newer higher end movements.

Elijah Roberts
Elijah Roberts

The watch in your photo meets your criteria. You have any other factors we should consider?

Ryan Ortiz
Ryan Ortiz

No worries, you were here and had the picture he was looking for.

Carter Murphy
Carter Murphy

post tons of pictures of fake/replica omegas
I've sure shown those swatch males

Robert Butler
Robert Butler

That article series does a good job of explaining how autistically obsessed both Seiko divisions became with mechanical movement accuracy in the late pre-quartz era. Daini in particular became totally obsessed with it to the point of designing and building a 36,000 bph women's movement(!!!) and throwing enough adjustment labour at it to sell a VFA version(!!!!).

Mason Hill
Mason Hill

TFW no fun meme* swatch
*that is intentionally a meme and not just a failed adaptation of a moment design

Nathaniel Thomas
Nathaniel Thomas

https://youtu.be/uwJ9TbkNigs

this video has really good animations but on a really basic level a horizontal clutch jams a gear against another gear to engage the chronograph which is not only destructive over time but if a tooth is hit instead of a groove the chronograph will not engage perfect. If you are trying to accurately time something that is not ideal. A vertical clutch works sort of like a car clutch where a two surfaces come together. A A gear drops onto another coupling them and immediately engaging the chronograph with no tooth interaction. There are a myriad of different designs for each clutch type but typically horizontal clutches should not remain engaged for long periods due to wear whereas vertical clutch movements can typically withstand far more use.

Robert Reed
Robert Reed

It's 40mm, and the case and bracelet are done by the same Seiko division that makes GS cases and bracelets, tough of course the Brightz models aren't tin polished like the GS ones are, but they do have double AR crystals and Diashield on the case and bracelet to reduce scratches.

Anthony Morales
Anthony Morales

guise, guise
I have a question, what would you recommend for a female?
Lets try to keep it simple, black dial, all metal.
Triple bonus for exposed moving parts or skeletonised anything. I KNOW I KNOW, but its not to please /wt/ she's weird like that.
And i would like to spend upwards 500 bucks.
It would really really help guise.

Michael Peterson
Michael Peterson

god almighty please don't post that again. Fuck me what where they thinking?

Benjamin Perry
Benjamin Perry

t-t-they're f-fake!!!!

Angel Jones
Angel Jones

not spend upwards of 500? or upwards of 500? because that would mean literally any watch on earth over 500 dollars.

William Barnes
William Barnes

Is it your wife or soon to be wife? If not don't waste upwards of $500 unless she fucks like a champ.

Jace Garcia
Jace Garcia

expecting females to understand logic
you know what she meant, shitlord

Zachary Powell
Zachary Powell

DON'T FEED IT YOUR PUTTING FOOD IN THE MOUTH OF ITS THIRD WIFE

Leo Scott
Leo Scott

I really don't and i don't think its a woman.

Cameron Richardson
Cameron Richardson

These Swatch males are absolutely devastated. It's funny they call me a Seiko male yet I own no watches.

Carson Torres
Carson Torres

There is also an excellent thread by Al Archer (a well known independent watchmaker) explaining the differences available here: https://omegaforums.net/threads/chronographs-vertical-and-horizontal-coupling.5539/

Nathan King
Nathan King

Would really suggest relaxing the black dial for white or mother of pearl. Orient often is the best bet for ladies mechanical although Hamilton has some decent stuff (a little above your price point). This is the best I could do for black skeletonized (and it's out of production) but like I said lots more options in white/pearl

Owen Morales
Owen Morales

Thats a doozy, i think i have never seen a womens watch in any of these threads.

Anthony Price
Anthony Price

Saw this beauty on tgv's facebook pace the other day. I can't even believe people actually buy these fly by night facebook ad watches.

Wyatt Hernandez
Wyatt Hernandez

Yeah I sold it because it just felt impractical to use, but it's fucking beautiful and I miss having it just for the sake of having it.

The copper plating looks great, it's a damn shame they make all these fucking special editions and they can't bother making a new copper plated movement now that all their watches have display backs.

Anthony Hill
Anthony Hill

up to 500 i mean i could spend more but not right now
yeah thx
Im pretty close to land my dream job, that means financial security and bragging rights amongst college peers, YES I KNOW i said 500 so it doesnt sound like ill be making a lot of money, BUT OH BOY furniture appliances and shit is pretty expensive... so yeah lets say my soon to be wife.
thx ill look int that

Chase Long
Chase Long

I live how beta this post is. Instead of contacting them straight away and trying to sort it he is asking if it's a normal thing to have happen. Almost like he will consider not contacting them if it's normal.

Aiden Morales
Aiden Morales

Thanks for the videos and articles by the way. Vertical clutch definitely seems superior from what I can see.

And yeah, it does suck. Now they're trying to shove their coaxial movements into every damn watch they have.

Elijah Flores
Elijah Flores

facebook users are drones
especially TGV redditors
Nihil sub sole novum.

Nolan Ward
Nolan Ward

just get her a fashion watch she'll actually like and look good wearing.

if she gives a shit about watches in a year then spend real money on it.

William Davis
William Davis

I was on ebay 2 years ago and i just randomly bought an enlarger for no reason having no film cameras or anything related to them at all. fast forward to now and im shooting only film developing it and printing it all myself. We also spend wayyyy too much fucking money on Polaroid film that barely works but i can't fucking stop. When i have entirely too much money to throw away ill pick up an m3.

Jayden Adams
Jayden Adams

Is she smart? Loyal? Will age well (check her mother out)? Fucks good? If not it has nothing to do with the amount of money so much as it's throwing money in the trash.

Lucas Morris
Lucas Morris

My favorite part as when people came in and defended his purchase becuase it had a $35 generic seiko movement in it.

Brody Foster
Brody Foster

Um, it shouldn't be so ugly.

Elijah Perez
Elijah Perez

m3

Modern or e30 m3 to go with the aesthetic vintage stuff you've acquired.

Grayson Diaz
Grayson Diaz

I have one I think is cool but don't really wear it.

John Lewis
John Lewis

That looks pretty good actually. And no fucking date, impressive

Eli Sanders
Eli Sanders

What is even worse is that ETA already had and was producing a vertical clutch chronograph in the form of the Omega 1045/Lemania 5100, and they stopped making it (even though there was still demand for them on the market from other watch companies) because they would have better profits from just churning out more Valjoux 7750s.

Oliver Wright
Oliver Wright

When i have entirely too much money to throw away ill pick up an m3.
The E46 Competition Package M3 was a fucking masterpiece and is a much truer sports car than any M3 since.

Colton Garcia
Colton Garcia

Pretty sure he meant a Leica M3 and not a BMW M3. They're both German though, at least.

Yeah the M3 is a great camera, rangefinders just aren't for me. They're romanticized a lot but SLRs are just more practical. I also only really use medium format these days if I'm going to go through all the hassle of film development and printing.

And so now I have a Bronica SQ which uses Seiko shutters. I kind of laughed the first time I noticed the Seiko brand on the bottom of the lens.

Aaron Foster
Aaron Foster

e30 m3
kek, a leica m3 but i do dd an e36

Nolan Barnes
Nolan Barnes

Im gonna pick up a mamiya 7 in a few weeks. I shoot pretty much everything with a minolta xe-7 as of right now but i also use my old zorki 4 when the mood strikes.

Michael Roberts
Michael Roberts

Smart? yes she is
loyal? shes been very supportive, i have been a neet visiting fit ever since i quit my old job (almost 2 years ago), she bought me nice clothes to go all fine and dandy to my interviews, takes me out and buys me a ton of beer.
will age well? i dont care
Fucks good? gets better everytime were at it (also what a magic time is being under 20)
Looks nice, name brand model?
Looks pretty particular, if you dont wear it... :^)

Jonathan Torres
Jonathan Torres

but i am really not skilled enough to shoot with the zorki

as you can clearly see
from that shot

Wyatt Walker
Wyatt Walker

vostok amphibia 051 case. The red dial variant is cool but my gf liked the blue. The diamonds are pretty gay but you cant really see them in person so its not that big of a deal.

Jackson Martinez
Jackson Martinez

also what a magic time is being under 20

Anthony Flores
Anthony Flores

holy fuck how old are you? I assumed this general was generally older

Jacob Watson
Jacob Watson

Hamilton has pretty nice stuff, really nice stuff.
I think ill save up for a while and try to go big.
Why the fuck i hear the rich piana voice saying?
i dont want to hear this once a week, come on lets get BIIIIG

Alexander Myers
Alexander Myers

Not him, but now I feel old at 29.

Jeremiah Sanchez
Jeremiah Sanchez

SHIT my yoke went hayward.
I was trying to make the point that young bucks put too much emphasis on the sexual side of the relationship, i mean it is at the begining sure, but we've been together for 11 years and i know were going to be at some point in our lifes where my dick will be ded and her pink pocket will be kill, what im trying to say is yes its nice to pork like rabbid hogs but my choices arent base on that particular fact...
And im 33.

Easton King
Easton King

Longines? more like Longenious.
Dan henry is such a shitter microbrand. It's no surprise genuine beta people flock to it.

Nicholas Edwards
Nicholas Edwards

not knowing that lemania made the 861 movement.

SAD!

Jaxson Turner
Jaxson Turner

slams pork trotter on table
ill have a beer!
I wonder if the waitress saw my rolex?
waitress: Hey sir heres you beer
SLAM slams ham hock on table again
Thanks m'lday
SHE MUST HAVE SEEN IT THIS TIME PANTIES MUST BE WETTER THAN THE WATERING HOLE!

Lucas Turner
Lucas Turner

But who were knuckles

William Jenkins
William Jenkins

Is the AE-1200 any good? i'm looking for a cheap plated casio and the other one i like is the A158WEA and it's about the same price where i am from on amazon (also not in stock rn). help me decide between those 2, user

Christian Morris
Christian Morris

Anyone else here have poverty wrist sizes?

Levi Gomez
Levi Gomez

What do you think he wears?

Robert James
Robert James

implying someone so fat could lift their arm and slam it

Anthony Nguyen
Anthony Nguyen

are "Swiss Military" brand of watches good?

Julian Collins
Julian Collins

hese me with my most recept cop. Just a AP ROO. Maybe you should stop being such a wristlet and man up?

Noah Morales
Noah Morales

tfw wristlet
Do I need to start lifting?

Luke Ross
Luke Ross

Best way is probably just to cut your wrist open, put more bone in, and then hope for the best.

Aiden Lewis
Aiden Lewis

liftinf only really makes your forearm larger. nithing much to do about actual wrist size

Robert Rodriguez
Robert Rodriguez

tfw wristlet
tfw can pull off sub 36mm with ease

mad?

Carson Perez
Carson Perez

Of course I know Lemania made the 861, but as the 861 uses a horizontal clutch I don't see what the relevance of that movement would have been to my point that ETA/Omega already had a cost effective vertical clutch chronograph design that they stopped producing. The only other vertical clutch chronograph in the ETA/Omega arsenal is the FP 1185 based Omega 33xx, which is a vertical clutch column wheel design but is not at all the kind of robust movement design that would be appropriate in a Speedmaster of any kind.

Ryder Green
Ryder Green

I like this idea.

Henry Morris
Henry Morris

promoting ETA
slams Lemania

no.

Hudson Collins
Hudson Collins

I have no idea what you are trying to say? At what point was I either promoting ETA or slamming Lemania?

Isaac Gutierrez
Isaac Gutierrez

He is a retarded troll. Don't feed him any more (((you)))'s and don't try arguing with him. You'll just get more idiotic posts.

James Cruz
James Cruz

checking in

Adam Russell
Adam Russell

what watch would /wt/ wear for a long plane trip? thinking my gshock

Hudson Garcia
Hudson Garcia

Fun fact: Seal team 6 found bin laden after he posted his f91w on /wt/.

Connor Brown
Connor Brown

hey its me bin laden

Joshua Rodriguez
Joshua Rodriguez

I guess it's a rare strap and I want to keep it in good condition. It's made of some cheap plastic and the older it gets the more stiff and fragile it gets.

I'd rather just buy a new cheap strap and draw some ghosts or spider webs on it myself with a paint pen. Or just keep it a solid dark blue.

Ethan Myers
Ethan Myers

hey /wt/, did i do good for $20? i bought it off ebay and while it's still in shipping (from ukraine, so it'll be a while) it looks pretty good and if it's DOA i can just refund it thanks to ebay buyer protection

Jackson Peterson
Jackson Peterson

Which model is that? Haven't seen one with orange outlines. Really dig it.

Aaron Perry
Aaron Perry

f91w has different colors my dude.

Jaxson Kelly
Jaxson Kelly

is buying the f91w worth the money if you already have a decent mechanical watch? Or will it just sit in the drawer?

Christian Nelson
Christian Nelson

You can use it while working in the garden or something.

Justin Ortiz
Justin Ortiz

it's a piece of shit no sane person would ever wear in public.

Alexander Carter
Alexander Carter

this tbqh

Michael Ortiz
Michael Ortiz

5 by 5

David Sanders
David Sanders

wrasltin figureines
f91-w
child
checks out

Grayson Ramirez
Grayson Ramirez

this retard posting replicas and cherry picked images again

didn't you learn your lesson after being thoroughly BTFO in the last thread

Jackson Thompson
Jackson Thompson

so? quit being such a bitch

Jack Green
Jack Green

where can i get an affordable omega speedmaster

Anthony Allen
Anthony Allen

one on the left is cool

Liam Thomas
Liam Thomas

Other than Vostok

Who makes functional mechanical dive watches under $100?

Easton Robinson
Easton Robinson

No one

Jordan Flores
Jordan Flores

Invicta

Kevin Lopez
Kevin Lopez

Invicta
What did he mean by this?

Jaxson Nguyen
Jaxson Nguyen

/g/thread/63350953#p63355687
the Omega undoubtedly

Simply because that Seiko is actually fucking huge and unwearable at 46mm

Everyone else replying is a clueless retard memeing as usual instead of knowing the watches

Logan Anderson
Logan Anderson

I don't like Invicta either but the user asked a question and I simply answered it.

Logan Richardson
Logan Richardson

The Omega looks so much better than the Seiko, a GS would have been a way better comparison.

Jace Scott
Jace Scott

The Omega looks so much better than the Seiko

Kevin Nelson
Kevin Nelson

Nigger did I stutter?

Leo Lewis
Leo Lewis

Nigger did I stutter?

James Russell
James Russell

Depends what you call "affordable," but used Speedies are a good buy in Japan, especially if you're willing to go with the "reduced" auto version. I was fully planning on buying one myself when I was there a few months ago, and explored a lot of watch stores while searching for the best deal, but I ended up falling in love with a Ball Engineer II (which was also a really good deal in Japan) and getting that instead.

Hunter Price
Hunter Price

I like some of Seiko's stuff but the Omega is much more dignified

the Seiko diver looks like mallshit with a corny name like monster

Jonathan Jackson
Jonathan Jackson

Decadent capitalist pigs

Eli Davis
Eli Davis

What amphibia model is that?

Sebastian Phillips
Sebastian Phillips

last thread everyone agrees on seiko.. now all these people saying omega better? or is it one guy?

Brayden Fisher
Brayden Fisher

420 case from meranom
659 dial
gold hands with the better lume
ss bezel
hand wind 2409 mvmt
changing spare parts 5 dollars for them to put it all together.

Luke Wilson
Luke Wilson

oh also metal mvmt ring

and i did not get the ss crown because i don't like it as much

Camden Sullivan
Camden Sullivan

it's one dude. The seiko is by far the better value watch. Their finishing is unmatched for the price point.

Justin Williams
Justin Williams

I'm one of the posters so at least two

This guy is clueless.

Maybe if it was a Marine master or GS. Not a prospex.

James Hernandez
James Hernandez

good taste

Jonathan Foster
Jonathan Foster

Maybe if it was a Marine master or GS. Not a prospex.
Seiko's SBDC diver's models are Brightz/SARX tier models, meaning the cases and bracelets are made by the same Seiko division that makes them for Grand Seiko, though without the tin polishing used on GS cases, and has a dual AR coated sapphire crystal and diashield anti-scratch coating. It also features a milled clasp with a diver's extension.

I'll also note that personally I find the external finishing on the Seamaster 300 pretty underwhelming when I've looked at customer pics.

Jason Bennett
Jason Bennett

wtf half of it is GS made you retard.
The SBDC line has far more reliable movement than the retarded coaxial shit. It's only ~1.2k so it:s not like yiu can expect it to blow the omega out of the water or something, but the finishing on the case is just as good and it isnt some meme movement that will break in 3 years.
Seikos diashield coating is revolutionary with keeping a watch preserved. They can even keep titanium from really scratching with it.

Brayden Thompson
Brayden Thompson

Aging is a big part of marrying a woman. Look at what her mother looks like.

Robert Williams
Robert Williams

unwearable at 46mm
Maybe if you have wrists smaller than 7 inches. The integrated lugs make it very wearable. Have you not seen the nice anon's wrist shots?
Go jerk of to redialed slavshit or something.

They always start and stop around the same time. Notice that once they have been gone for a while. If we assume that there are in fact multiple people, not just one person using multiple devices, it probably just means that they are from a shit-tier part of the world. Once they have been away for a while we get posts like the following:
/g/thread/63350953#p63356620

Maybe if the omega had a different movement. The fact that even their new co-axial, which is at least designed better as far as movement layout goes, still needs extremely precise oil application is a huge disappointment. I hope that they manage to fix that in the next iteration.

Elijah Ortiz
Elijah Ortiz

For that kind of money I’d definitely be taking it back.

Blake Baker
Blake Baker

look at me i dont know what prospex means and have never held the omega mememaster 300
I know for a fact the bracelet is made by grand seiko. The case i believe is as well as its a transocean sbdc.
People who enjoy having a working watch will shit all over the omega seamaster. Their first two itterations of the coaxial line were complete failures on launch day. At least their newest one isn't AS unreliable, but it still costs 700+ to fucking fix. The SBDC can have a completly new movement and have it regulated for half that while having just as good accuracy.

Omega post swatch group formation is a sham of a company. Their best movements are from the 1960's because half of their watches are chinese made now. It makes me sad to have to shit on omega since i own 3 vintage ones, but they are a ruined zombie of a company because of greedy bean counters outsourcing all the parts.

Jack Thomas
Jack Thomas

This absolutely. Anyone who has held a modern omega watch and compaired it to anything equay priced would be able to tell that the finishing is no where close up to par.

Swatch defending posters are honestly the worst. The only good swatch group companies are Swatch and breguet.

Jacob Fisher
Jacob Fisher

posts a scratched up greasy case

yeah you're not biased or misrepresenting things at all.

just because its made by the "same factory" doesn't mean its going to get the same treatment in quality in that price point you retards. prospex is firmly in the $500-$1500 category.

I owned a version of the Omega and its worth the price. poster should do himself a favor and get the Omega or a MM.

all this co-axial hate comes from ONE outdated interview
most people don't have any problems with theirs

i-its wears s-small. w-wear it in g-good health xD
46mm is still 46mm the integrated lugs make it worse by expanding the L2L size. it's going to look fucking ridiculous

Hudson Rodriguez
Hudson Rodriguez

well 36mm is small
I can just about manage 40mm depending on the watch but 38 is my safest bet

Chase Gutierrez
Chase Gutierrez

adding: look at this shit

Julian Clark
Julian Clark

The only good swatch group companies are Swatch and breguet.
Don't forget Glashutte Original, which Swatch appear to have had the good sense not to vampirically consume until nothing but a desiccated husk remains, unlike most of their previous acquisitions.

Juan Cox
Juan Cox

So I can forget about anything 40mm+ then I guess. 38mm is great, 40mm should still be okay but 42mm is already too big. I don't wanna look ridiculous with oversized watch, not to mention it's not comfy.

Jacob Reed
Jacob Reed

Got my Feike knockoff in the post today lads
Certainly not the worst thing I've bought drunk
Came with a battery and was two hours out (hopefully that isn't a sign of things to come)
The lower dial does seconds, then the seconds hand on the main face moves when you use the timer
Unfortunately it looks like Gimto were never told that the upper dial should display minutes and not seconds
It also appears that the chrono seconds and the upper dial hands are ever so slightly misaligned
The lume will probably be shit because there's fuck all and it's not even got a green or yellow tinge

Matthew Wood
Matthew Wood

The case being greasy or scratched from being worn had nothing to do with the exterior finishing issues I felt that image helped to highlight. This image does as well. Those hands are totally unacceptable on a watch of the Seamaster 300's pricepoint.

most people don't have any problems with theirs
I don't know if you are aware what the issues with Omega's co-axial implementation are, but any problems wouldn't become apparent until it comes time to have the watches serviced. Omega's implementation requires prompt servicing directly by Omega punctually every five years because the microscopic amounts of oil used on the co-axial escapement teeth are absolutely vital for the safe operation of the movement and it will begin to eat itself if that oil dries out. Plus, the co-axial escapement makes servicing considerably more difficult, both at the disassembly and reassembly stage and in having to oil the escapement with microscopically precise amounts of oil. This also makes the movement unusually sensitive to precise servicing and at an elevated risk to suffer damage as a result of improperly done servicing. Considering it manages to be objectively worse in every category than a traditional Swiss lever escapement, how can Swatch justify continuing to ram this white elephant down customer's throats?

Cameron Lopez
Cameron Lopez

sounds like you me
thin 40mm watches are fine but anything above that is really starting to look silly

Luke Jackson
Luke Jackson

Forgot the image.

Chase Thompson
Chase Thompson

i didnt post the bad case but it is still subpar finishing. And yes it does mean they are the same quality. You clearly have not held one before.
There is a difference in being happy with your purchase and it being better than the competition.

Omegas coaxial line is hated because they had two versions if it where a large number were literally DOA. They are so expensive and hard to work on. Do you know how many independent certified watch smiths there are for the coaxial movements? ONE. one dude.
A simple routine service of a coaxial cost 500-700 dollars. Thats fucking absurd.

The MM is almost twice the cost but yeah its a better watch. The transocean is seriously FUCKHUGE but its a legit divers watch. You call others disengenus but post a pic of people wearing the watch wrong so it looks bigger? nice.

Jordan Sanchez
Jordan Sanchez

26
What did the right most sub dial mean by this?

Christian Reed
Christian Reed

you posted a blurry image that didn't even catch the hand accent in your image.

this one isn't even the same model as evident by the bezel.

you obviously don't know what you're talking about if you don't even catch these simple things.

lel you can't spell disingenuous

watch bigger than a Panerai is fucking big

wow I'm sorry for misrepresenting its actual size on your average wrist. go wear it I'm sure you'll be fine and not want to flip it because it looks huge and uncomfortable. go.

Anthony Watson
Anthony Watson

Prospex is <1500 which really makes you wonder, because they have better finishing than omegas <3000. Nice unfinished sides of those stamped hands lol.
Transocean is pretty large but don't pretend like the SM300 coax doesnt wear far bigger for its size at 41mm.

Elijah Torres
Elijah Torres

I hope you realize you are responding to like 3 people. I mistyped disingenuous because i'm on mobile. Sue me.
You literally said he was biased by posting a bad pic and then did the exact same thing.... Is irony lost on you? I even said in my post it is really fucking big.

Henry Wright
Henry Wright

can't even see detail or the sides of the hands from that image
a 41 mm watch is much bigger than a 46mm watch

state of these delusional retards who can only regurgitate memes

I'm done. I've posted enough quality material that the poster can make an informed decision.

I hope this highlights the difference between people who handled actual watches and the morons who go by google images and second hand forum groupthink.

Michael Davis
Michael Davis

I just prefer the look of the Omega, but I would buy the Seiko. 46mm makes it ill-fitted for my rural cambodian child wrists but then again I thought the turtle looks borderline ok on me.

Henry Ross
Henry Ross

mobile
lmao. you already have predictive text helping you and you still fuck it up.

go away dumbo.

bad pic
the watch size doesn't change no matter how ugly the pic is you retard

posting a different model and possibly a replica again as some sort of proof
sigh. you idiots really don't get it.

Oliver Torres
Oliver Torres

this one isn't even the same model as evident by the bezel.
They use the same hands quite obviously. Here's another Seamaster 300 model with blatantly unfinished hand edges.

Anthony Hernandez
Anthony Hernandez

the image is not crisp enough and has stylistic distortion to have an accurate impression of the details.

you google image armchair expert

Elijah Young
Elijah Young

Hey if I post a picture of some kid wearing his dad's Rolex dose that make Rolex a trash brand that can't design shit?
Careful the bezel insert and dial are slightly different and even though that is a easy thing to swap in its obviously an entirely different watch with no relation to the original shitter.

Nolan Bailey
Nolan Bailey

You should use a tripcode. That way I won't mix you up with the other enlightened poster.

Jackson Gutierrez
Jackson Gutierrez

Learn to read you dumb cunt. I said it wears bigger for its size.
You havn't posted anything of value dipship. All you've done is say "your watch is stupid and big! trust me and your facts dont matter"
Go bait some other forum. You don't own shit. Post your prescious omega mememaster then.
Feel free to look up any of those images posted. Theyre classic posts on watchuseek of people omegas having QC issues, but by all means just stick your head further up your ass and ignore everything. They get posted here all the time lol. Even i recognize them on sight.

Nathaniel Nguyen
Nathaniel Nguyen

hahahah holy shit is this for real? can someone link more shitty omega pics?

Aaron Powell
Aaron Powell

the image is not crisp enough and has stylistic distortion to have an accurate impression of the details.
Nice use of the No True Scotsman fallacy. I'm sure it's purely a fluke that the same types of reflections off the unfinished edges of the stamped hands are visible in multiple images taken by different people purely by fluke.

Hudson Hill
Hudson Hill

see

Adam Cox
Adam Cox

the hands arn't finished on the sides while the significantly cheaper transocean's hands are, but i'm just going to ignore it
LOL. sure bud. Go away now. This is your last (you) for today. Good bait posts.

Jonathan Morales
Jonathan Morales

Those are all fakes, my glorious perfect Omega would never give a watch like those a stamp of approval

James Collins
James Collins

*breathes in*

that seals the deal on modern Omega for me, holy fuck that last facebook reaction

Carson Wood
Carson Wood

strawman
arguing a hugeass prospex seiko is the primo luxury purchase

lel don't make me post my Spectre and BLNR to shut you up.

abloo bloo

this is getting boring

John Garcia
John Garcia

they keep posting 5 images of shoddy replicas and blue moon defects out of the hundred thousands of watches Omega sells

if you're convinced by that you're retarded

Oliver Thomas
Oliver Thomas

GUYS ROLEX HAS TRASH DESIGN! LOOK AT HOW THE SUB IS TOO BIG! LUGS OVERHANG!

personally id never buy such a big watch but posting a bad pic of it doesn't make the design bad you dumb cunt. i never claimed it was the primo luxury. Jesus christ you can't post anything worthwhile so you just shitpost? good strat.

Hunter Morales
Hunter Morales

my REAL example here shows your "fake news examples are fake news
You mean you got tired of being wrong rather than boring.

Kayden Harris
Kayden Harris

none of those are replicas dude. Theyre literally straight from reputable posters on watchuseek. Google it you lazy moron.
Omegas, specially lower end ones, are chinese made crap with QC issues. deal with it.

Charles Perry
Charles Perry

Why is the Timex Expedition band so comfy?

Austin Allen
Austin Allen

this much backpedaling
this much false equivalence

lol you're poor and stupid. take your clueless opinions to dumber forums who don't know better.

no argument
tries to analyze my throwaway words for his dumb ass instead

lel

half of the posts Omega troll is posting is replicas. he was exposed in the last thread you ADD faggots.

5 watches out of the hundred thousands being sold by a watchmaker can end up lemons

wow. I sure didn't know this. this totally doesn't happen to Rolex and anyone else!

Hunter Gray
Hunter Gray

Please stop. No one likes you.
is it? i was under the impression it felt really bad, specifically in the heat.
No one was "exposed" jesus christ. Just stop. You got BTFO so you just resort to insults. Post an actual argument in responce to any of them instead of just shitposting.
None of those images are replicas. Look them up.

Landon Thomas
Landon Thomas

no argument
That pretty much sums up your argument. I was trying to coax you into actually replying something of substance other than dismissing any issues and posting the perfect poster boy examples of watches.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-speedmaster-speedy-tuesday-problems.63862/ here is a whole thread filled with different people with different issues of an official Omega on the Omega forums. Go on, post a picture of a perfect example to dismiss the complaints again.

Nathaniel Cook
Nathaniel Cook

n-n-no! those are all FAKES!!! FAKES I TELL YOU. THE RUSSIANS DID IT. THEY FRAMED OMEGA!!!
My precious swatch group has NEVER had any problems since they outsourced the GLORIOUS chineseland!

Kayden Myers
Kayden Myers

no one was exposed
yeah me posting replicas as proof isn't important
nothing to see here

pfffttthaha

it's just the same 5 pictures already posted

lmao. I know you're trying to puff up your argument like it was something but this is sad.

Camden Ramirez
Camden Ramirez

lol you're poor and stupid
Wow dude. Form an actual discussion. /wt/ has gone down hill so much recently because of shitposters like you. Just have a real discussion and don't just resport to bland personal attacks. It's really weak.

Thomas Barnes
Thomas Barnes

again moron none of them are replicas. They are all actual issues on actual omegas. I dare you to find similar images for rolex, tudor, high end seikos, ect...

Jaxson Phillips
Jaxson Phillips

wow i havn't seen that one before. Saved for later shitting on swatchbois.

Tyler Collins
Tyler Collins

Yeah you have called them fakes, not true Omega, just straight up ignored them and now are saying examples of shit quality are not enough examples. Nice argument. Omega has QC issues.

Jonathan Gutierrez
Jonathan Gutierrez

not getting the point

he (and by that I mean you) has never handled these watches outside google images and reposting forum groupthink. His opinions have no weight and value.

lmgtfy: [brand name] defect

dividing those 5 watches to omega's total watches means you have a 0.00000714% chance of getting a defect.

wow time to close shop I guess.

Ryder Anderson
Ryder Anderson

Holy fuck. that must be a prank. Imagine paying thousands of dollars only for some chinese factory worker to not even place the hands right.
And to think i was pissed when my tudor BB was off by 2 mins.

Logan Bennett
Logan Bennett

Fake news, that's a replica, my REAL omega here is fine

Jeremiah Johnson
Jeremiah Johnson

all of the ones with defects are found and posted on watchuseek with 100% accuracy
Dude you can't make a worse fallacy if you tried. You can't find posts like that for other high end brands while you can for omega because they have bad QC. sorry to shit on your precious watch you wasted thousands for. Should have gotten a good brand that isnt propped up with random limited editions and marketing.

Jeremiah Martin
Jeremiah Martin

Add
it's not even that many watches with defects
to the list.
The acceptable number of factory defects is 0 units which Rolex and any decent swiss brand can uphold*.
*Omega are a chink-swiss hybrid so I guess they should get a pass

Jason Collins
Jason Collins

Why the hate for Omega?

Hunter Torres
Hunter Torres

No hate for VINTAGE Omega. Modern Omega is what we're having issues with.

Josiah Nguyen
Josiah Nguyen

Vintage omega=amazing and best of the best

post SSIH bankruptcy omega=outsourced and zombie watches

Zachary Foster
Zachary Foster

Vintage Omega and Swatch group are great.
Modern Chinese outsourced "swiss" is what's hated on.

Easton Bennett
Easton Bennett

Compare that to the globemaster and you will understand.

Michael Wood
Michael Wood

Jesus Christ man...
/fit/ May save you yet

Charles Turner
Charles Turner

you can't find posts like that!
google
5 threads about Rolex defects

uhuh.

has to pick a discontinued 1957 reissue as proof

I see were back to misrepresenting

Brayden Campbell
Brayden Campbell

swatch group is the modern one run by bean counter jews.
SSIH was the merger group of tissot and omega that went bankrupt and was turned into swatch.

Jace Cruz
Jace Cruz

the biggest defects on a rolex are at most mildly uneven lume because it dried poorly. You cant find anything close to omega level of defects.

Brody Morales
Brody Morales

Ah I see, I don't know that much about watches so was surprised to see the negative posts about Omega

On the topic of vintage omega, I inherited that one from my Grandfather. Any clue what year/decade it would be from? There's no writing on the back of the case, there's an observatory in gold though.

He left the air force and became a commercial pilot in the 60s so I'm guessing its around then; can anyone confirm?

Blake Campbell
Blake Campbell

what's a sub 20$ watch that looks very simple and minimalist without looking too tryhard?

I checked the pope watch but it's just a little too fuzzy for me. I want a little more slick.

Noah Phillips
Noah Phillips

Oh there is a thread about indices with no lume, numbers looking like different numbers due to shit application, and misaligned date windows on a Rolex? Give us the link mate.

Jonathan Ortiz
Jonathan Ortiz

fw91

James Johnson
James Johnson

looks like an early 1970's pie pan constellation there. Whats on the caseback? Those go for like 1500-2000 i believe.

Parker Thompson
Parker Thompson

If i paid rolex a pile of gold for this i would be fucking infuriated.
For that price they have to be perfect, should have hand polished that lume.

Connor Davis
Connor Davis

Post legible picture of the front of case.

David Reed
David Reed

also forgot to add, is it a cal 551 or do you not know? Those are some of the best movements ever.

Jaxon Walker
Jaxon Walker

Late 60s. I had a watch very similar to yours OP (only it had a date window). Beautiful watch.

Cameron Bennett
Cameron Bennett

Derp I didn't realize you'd already posted it. What said.

Hunter King
Hunter King

Did that style of crown persist until the late sixties?

Xavier Ramirez
Xavier Ramirez

Because a handful of weebs think they are appeasing pic-related while they keep telling people to buy Seiko diver's. The same seiko divers that have been made exactly the same for 25+ years but still come out of the factory with misaligned bezels and chapter rings. But hey 10 people had issues with the new Speedy Tuesday and if you spam enough pictures of replicas/fakes you are proving us all to be "swatch males"

Only a fucking moron would spend the money that is asked for a Grand Seiko. At some point it comes down to real life >>(You)'s and explaining to someone that you bought a $5000 Seiko (the same brand that can be bought in JC Penny's for $75) instead of an Explorer or Speedmaster will get you ridiculed.

If GS was $1500 new I don't think anyone here would bat an eye at buying one.

James Cruz
James Cruz

Cool thanks, I wouldn't sell it. Sentimental value is too big

Thanks. Yeah it's very nice. A lot more elegant than my other watch (a TAG)

Adrian Kelly
Adrian Kelly

Gr8 b8, m8. I rel8, str8 appreci8, and congratul8. I r8 this b8 an 8/8. Plz no h8, I'm str8 ir8. Cr8 more, can't w8. We should convers8, I won't ber8, my number is 8888888, ask for N8. No calls l8 or out of st8. If on a d8, ask K8 to loc8. Even with a full pl8, I always have time to communic8 so don't hesit8.

Nathan Howard
Nathan Howard

Thanks for proving my point. Make sure to spam some more replicas before bedtime.

Nolan Cooper
Nolan Cooper

pic-related is chinese you cuck get it right

Noah Baker
Noah Baker

all that matters is status and not the quality of the product!
fuck off moron

Jordan Myers
Jordan Myers

It's a big component, if you're not a poorfag you know this.

Luis Parker
Luis Parker

I don't understand how the balance wheel/spring are receiving its power to keep contracting/moving, I know it's supposedly from getting pushed by the escapement/fork, but I don't understand at what point the spring gets pushed by it, I've watched every animation on youtube

the fork gets moved from one position to the next, how does the spring keep moving/contracting?

Tyler Lopez
Tyler Lopez

The impulse jewel on the balance wheel gets pushed by the fork. Basically the jewel pushes on the fork to unlock the fork, the fork unlocks, the escape wheel (using power from the mainspring) pushes /hard/ on the fork, the fork catches up to the jewel on the balance wheel and pushes the balance wheel.

Aaron Rivera
Aaron Rivera

Can't remember which video but one of these explains it https://youtu.be/Vye-ahdNVHc but pretty much this

Robert Green
Robert Green

Gay! Lugs are touching!

Kayden Kelly
Kayden Kelly

felt really bad
I mean it's not soft but it feels better than the chinkshit bands I usually have on

Bentley Bailey
Bentley Bailey

Buy 2-3 new casio and timex watches (one dress watch and one calculator watch for muh retro) OR spend the time and money to get more interesting pieces such as a Poljot dress watch and similar?
Also aiming to purchase the SKX013 by January next year or if a deal pops by soon.

James Reed
James Reed

casio and timex
drawer shitters. unless you actually work a tough job in mud and water where a gshock would feel at home.

get the poljot

Levi Bell
Levi Bell

Timex has really been upping their game in terms of looks, but god damn those lugs are Nomos tier.

Jeremiah Price
Jeremiah Price

All the bickering going on is making these threads go by way too fast.

Can we just admit Omega makes mistakes sometimes?

Charles King
Charles King

Protip: this is because owners cheap out by going to an unauthorized watchmaker who used the wrong type of spring bars.

Parker White
Parker White

personally I find the external finishing on the Seamaster 300 pretty underwhelming when I've looked at customer pics
There are some really nice consumer pics out there, like pic related.
This one is just from a random guy who knows how to take a macro pic.

In general though, pics can never do justice to something like watch finishing.
The mere fact that you're seeing it in pixels and through the plastic of your monitor kills the added value of nice finishing.

For instance, you'll never understand the Grand Seiko zaratsu hype until you hold a Sarb and a GS side by side. There is simply no comparison.

Colton Sanders
Colton Sanders

I still have to come across a single confirmation that the co-axial issue also applies to the new in-house 8400-8500 movements which were made from the ground up.

Ian Hill
Ian Hill

This is a fake.
The bezel and dial color are completely different, and the sunken indices don't look like that on the original.

Hudson Bell
Hudson Bell

(You)
Seamaster 23390412103001

Justin Reed
Justin Reed

how stupid do you have to be to post it. You can literally google image search the model....

Elijah Robinson
Elijah Robinson

this is a fake!!!

John Morales
John Morales

this. This. THIS is the mental retardation of a swatch cuck.
indices aren't filled with lume
hands are terribly finished
people pay money for the pleasure
The cuck actually uses the word smitten to describe the feeling of paying through the teeth for imperfection.

Robert Harris
Robert Harris

Financial Advice Edition
Ah, nice, just what I need!
While I technically could blow a few k on a watch without it affecting me, I'd rather not.
So what is a watch/watch brand in the hundreds to low k's where you'd see a raise in value as likely?
Assuming I keep the watch for 10 years and then (have to?) sell it, and I'd be OK with spending €50 a year for having a nice watch, but I'd also have to spend a bit for servicing, it should at least keep its value in order for the service costs to be covered by the depreciation I'd be OK with.
E.g. I should have gotten a NOMOS when I first heard about them, when you could get the Tangente for around 1k€. Could probaly easily sell that now for an OK value.
Or looking at shitters, pic related also got quite a bit more expensive during the last years. Should I simply get it now?

Brody Ortiz
Brody Ortiz

Whatever nerds, I handled the blue one at the AD and the colors seemed to match in that light.

In any case, you can't tell shit about the finishing of the hands in those pics.

Pic related is a much better shot; you can see the full reflection of the back of the minute hand in that hour hand.

indices aren't filled with lume
What?

Jose Rodriguez
Jose Rodriguez

I have a question, what would you recommend for a female?
Lets try to keep it simple, black dial, all metal.
In a similar situation here.
My gf really likes pic related (also available in black), but spending 400+ for a Quartz doesn't really fly with me, but could seem to be fitting for the guy I'm quoting.
Is there anything similar, from a respectable brand (i.e. no DW or Micheal Koors) at a reasonable price point?
Braun is somewhat similar in it's history, image and Germanness, I'd guess.

Ryan Lopez
Ryan Lopez

what?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ablogtowatch.com/watchmaker-compares-omega-seamaster-timepieces-caliber-1120-2500-8500-movements/amp/

Ethan Turner
Ethan Turner

What a fucking moron. Just take two seconds to zoom on the sides of the hands. You can CLEARLY see how they are poorly and unevenly finished.
pic related is a good pic
Jesus christ you are stupid. You complain about the HD pic but post a super low resolution one? No one was saying the hands arnt polished, but that the sides of the hands are poorly done and it shows. Fuck off insane swatch moron.

Isaac Turner
Isaac Turner

look at this different watch Omega are perfect see
Doesn't change that the one in the pic is shit just because your pic is a pin up model of the watch.
indices aren't filled with lume
What?
You can see the bottom of were the lume should be. It's not covering the entire area like the picture here or on their website. In the pictures it goes to the edges but not here, the one in your pic goes to the edge for an example of how it should be.

Luke Miller
Luke Miller

I want to mod a watch to look like a blue snowflake sub. I'm just not sure what watch to start with.
I have an Orient Ray, but there's only one aftermarket dial available that I know of and it's not a snowflake dial.
I could get an Amphibia, which apparently takes SKX dials, but there are no snowflake hands available.
So now my options are either to make a custom dial for my Ray, which sounds hard, or buy another watch.
Now I could just buy one of those cheap chinese watches like a Bagel, and use hands and a dial from Tiger. Or go all out with an SKX, but it starts to get expensive then, since I also have to buy all the tools.

Mason Howard
Mason Howard

gets called out as being wrong
w-w-whatever neeerrddds!!!!

Parker Howard
Parker Howard

talking about the hand edges
posts a pic where the hands edges are blue and out of focus
Great point mate.

Eli Cooper
Eli Cooper

what are angles

it going to look uneven because its tilted you moron

Isaiah Foster
Isaiah Foster

Your pic is just as tilted and fine. That blue one is still shit and an example of Omega and their shit QC.

Joshua Mitchell
Joshua Mitchell

They arnt filled all the way. Omega cheaped out on the dials for a while now. He didnt say its uneven but that it doesn't fill the full area.
Please KYS.

Bentley Green
Bentley Green

This guy thinks the 1120 and 2500 don't wind in both directions.
They're basically eta 2892s, the guy barely knows what he's talking about.

The edges in that pic aren't in focus either.

Xavier Barnes
Xavier Barnes

I'm talking about the bottom edge not the edge to the dial face

Connor Green
Connor Green

BECAUSE ITS FUCKING TILED IN AN ANGLE YOU CAN'T SEE ITS SYMMETRICAL TO THE OBSCURED PART

god you're dumb

Anthony Reyes
Anthony Reyes

hand wind 2409?
thats the only model vostok makes that isnt utter garbage. good on ya

Xavier Nelson
Xavier Nelson

blurry and shakey image that doesn't give accurate representation as proof

another armchair google image clueless nerd. go away.

Ryder Bell
Ryder Bell

can see the bottom of the area the lume is supposed to cover
it's tilted reeeeeeee
How come you can see the bottom of the area the lume is meant to be then?

Joseph Ortiz
Joseph Ortiz

You can literally see the bottom of were the lume is meant to be. Angles, Shake and blur don't change that.

Ryder Carter
Ryder Carter

Fuck off moron. Quit trying to defend your shitty purchase by shitposting all over these threads. You got BTFO the other day hard by that other dude and now you got BTFO again. Just give it a rest and stop.

Daniel Ortiz
Daniel Ortiz

muh omega hands aren't finished!

What about Rolex hands then?

Liam Perez
Liam Perez

claiming victory when you're just clueless idiots reposting secondhand shit and replicas

LMAO. at the end of the day your opinion has zero value because your just regurgitating forum memes and relying on google image for you "expert opinion".

leave this thread to actual watch enthusiasts who have experience.

Justin Fisher
Justin Fisher

Are you doing this on purpose or are you actually this stupid? You can very clearly see the areas where the lume doesnt fill the space. They do it properly on their higher end models but fail to do this on their cheaper ones because they have bad QC.

Kayden Rodriguez
Kayden Rodriguez

clearly see
blurred as fuck you can't tell where it really fucking starts and ends

another google image "expert"

Jason Gomez
Jason Gomez

look at the actual hand and not the reflection..... its polished..... You just played youraelf dude.

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson

cheapter ones
The blue one is the Ti version, and it's more expensive than the basic steel one.

And there is nothing wrong with the lume in that cutout.

Brayden Martin
Brayden Martin

it isn't filled in because it's a fucking sandwich dial

that's the fucking recessed area

god these clueless are goddamn stupid

Dominic Hernandez
Dominic Hernandez

So are we collectively imagining that reflection? Lmao.

The reflection simply shows the edge of the hand better. And it's chattery all along its length.
Fuck off.

Isaiah Kelly
Isaiah Kelly

new to the game. very excited

Angel Jones
Angel Jones

too blury, the hands are out of focus and its shaky cant see a thing
Rolex is perfect and you are just posting a replica fake watch thats second hand get out of your google armchair and have a real life experience you meme regurgitating "enthusiast" that doesn't have a single intelligent opinion
I think i got all your arguments in there at once so you can leave because I'm right.

Luke Garcia
Luke Garcia

I have nothing to say so ill just thow insults! that always works!
Oh please wise one post your 100k collection and school us all on how much you just know

Ian Brown
Ian Brown

Even on the top you can see the grittiness already

Bentley Scott
Bentley Scott

too blury, the hands are out of focus and its shaky cant see a thing
lmao, cope you faggot.

The reflection in the dial perfectly shows the face of that edge, and it is rough throughout.

Jack Harris
Jack Harris

I got thoroughly BTFO for being revealed as a fraud and a clueless internet armchair nerd
I'm going to minimize and act like he didn't say anything

Kayden Wood
Kayden Wood

holy shit you fucking moron loom at the edges of the hands. Theyre fucking polished. Omegas arnt. KYS faggot

Elijah Perry
Elijah Perry

TICK

Logan Clark
Logan Clark

You didnt prove anything anyone has said incorrect. Keep dreaming dude. Keep sucking that swatch dick and justifying with your poor purchasing.

Kayden Wood
Kayden Wood

Theyre fucking polished.

Cope, faggot.

Lucas Johnson
Lucas Johnson

Please explain why on more expensive omegas the lume goes out furthur than that?

Juan Cruz
Juan Cruz

tock

your turn

Jack Morgan
Jack Morgan

all these clueless retards acting like they're an authority on Omega and other watches because they read an online thread and looked through google images when they never owned one or handled these watches in real life.

fucking lol. you're like virgins who think they're sex experts because they watched a hundred pornhub videos.

Thomas Cox
Thomas Cox

I hope you realize, in your pic you can clearly see the reflection of the dial on the side of the hand. You're making an arugment that the finishing is bad because the reflection of the finishing off the dial isnt that clear.... Nice.

Dominic Myers
Dominic Myers

post your collection then shitposter

Gavin Rogers
Gavin Rogers

can see where the bottom of the cut out meets the edge of the cut out
in all the examples on their website and even some posted in this thread you can't see that because of it being covered in lume
this isn't that watch being a shitty QC job

Matthew Bailey
Matthew Bailey

cue cognitive dissonance and "its normal/it doesn't exist" when rolex does it

Joseph Lee
Joseph Lee

You can clearly see the chatter in the reflection.

Cope harder, turbofaggot.

Josiah Myers
Josiah Myers

can see
blurry as fuck photo that doesn't even have sharpness that you can tell what the true detail is

god this thread is filled with poor armchair morons

Andrew Kelly
Andrew Kelly

You can literally see the text reflecting perfectly along this "chattered edge"

Brayden Nelson
Brayden Nelson

post your shitty meme omega then. Please by all means show the world how stupid you are.

Evan Sanders
Evan Sanders

So?
That's just the way the pic works.
The reflection of that edge clearly shows that the edge of that Rolex hand is chattery along its entire length.

Or are we imaginging pic related?

Austin Nguyen
Austin Nguyen

Are you sure they've stopped making the 1963?
I could have sworn they're still making it

Asher Reyes
Asher Reyes

You can't see the shadow cast from the edge of the cut out? You can't see how it's cast onto the bottom of the cut out? You can't see that the lume starts some distance away from that edge?
Literal single digit IQ swatchcuck here

Liam Ward
Liam Ward

i wake up and check the /wt/ thread to see whats going on and i find this.

How many threads have you ruined you swatchmale dude? Everytime someone posts critcism of swatch you just spam post the same things.
Literally seen this like 4 times now. Please for the love of god stop.

Luke Morgan
Luke Morgan

Wouldn't you need the tools anyway for changing hands?

Zachary Howard
Zachary Howard

Literally seen this like 4 times now
You've seen what 4 times?

Bentley Smith
Bentley Smith

calls people in this hobby more successful and intelligent than him stupid

this is why you're going to stay poor and always be a retarded forum parrot

1. its blurry af
2. its tilted so you don't have a true sense of symmetry no matter how you overanalyze this shitty online image
3. you're clueless google image armchair tards

Evan Gonzalez
Evan Gonzalez

the one who posts the bait then the 3 people who fall for it are bad as each other
it means instead of a thread lasting for a day or two, they're hitting the bump limit in a few hours

Ian Gutierrez
Ian Gutierrez

Counter point. If it is chattered and not a mirror like finish, than how come it is mirror smooth with a mirror like reflection? For someone who is going on about camera tricks and focus and all sorts of bullshit before that didn't explain a thing you have sure changed your tune.

Cameron Kelly
Cameron Kelly

you can see unnatural breaks in the reflection indicating rough finishing

Kayden Cooper
Kayden Cooper

So what are we seeing in pic related?
What is this a reflection of?

Lucas Gray
Lucas Gray

show the world your stupid purchase mister "im so successful". You sound like a 12 year old pretending to be a cop. Post your collection if you want to call others "arm chair" critics.

Juan Martin
Juan Martin

my tiny dick

Aiden Rogers
Aiden Rogers

It's the same one idiot who relentlessly defends his omega or something. Posts the same images and arguments over and over and then inevitably devolves into insults. look at the last thread. ended the same way with the same guy.

James Evans
James Evans

Funny you rag on that guy while the thread started off and is filled with anti-swatch agitprop.

Ethan Perez
Ethan Perez

Pretty sure he's the one who said the Zenith El Primero is shit compared to the speedmaster of you want another gauge on his "expert" opinion and "enthusiast" knowledge

Joshua Howard
Joshua Howard

and there it is. Knew it.

thats the exact guy. He went back on that IIRC but he just can't stop shitposting and getting angry over his watch (if he even owns one)

Grayson Evans
Grayson Evans

clueless nerd tries to overanalyze my words now
hahaha I can literally see your low intelligence thought process. oh and I don't have anything to prove to you. I'll post what I fucking please.

It's the same retarded Omega troll who thinks he's an expert because he reposts the same 5 defects and replicas while recommending a Seiko prospex

Wyatt Wilson
Wyatt Wilson

user, sometimes small details even out with different lighting and focus.

But you simply can't explain away the presence of details like in this pic:

Eli Ross
Eli Ross

It's not a real Rolex it's a second hand replica. Nice try armchair Google moron.

Brayden Price
Brayden Price

and there it is
There what is?

Samuel Brown
Samuel Brown

can't you just agree to disagree? there's no need to be rude to each other

Justin Taylor
Justin Taylor

reflection on the hand
Mirror reflection of the dial
reflection on the dial
Reflection off the hand of distant lighting and features around the room

Brandon Lee
Brandon Lee

how kind of you user! ^_^

Adam Thompson
Adam Thompson

POST YOUR WATCH THEN.

Brayden Robinson
Brayden Robinson

this

Logan Rogers
Logan Rogers

i d-d-dont have anything to prove!
*the 16 year old thought to himself "yes! that will do it! no arguing against me now!"*

Elijah Sanchez
Elijah Sanchez

It's the same troll ruining threads. If you look earlier the thread was really going well and productive.
Look at the last thread too and the same thing happened. It's one guy trolling over and over to ruin threads for fun. IDK why people respond to the obvious bait but it's at least interesting to see imo.

Noah Cox
Noah Cox

The pic is from ablogtowatch, look it up if you want confirmation.

features around the room
Dude, stop.

The circled part in this pic: is the edge of that hand, not a "feature around the room".

Xavier Walker
Xavier Walker

autist nerd is now resorting arguing with his own strawman

[laughs in better than you]

Parker Richardson
Parker Richardson

It's one guy trolling over and over to ruin threads for fun

You're talking about the Swatch/Omega hater who spammed the thread, right?

Adam Sullivan
Adam Sullivan

why not just post your mememaster if you even have one?

Julian Butler
Julian Butler

reflections how do they work
Go play umsupervised in the traffic

Cameron James
Cameron James

i think he is saying that the watch hand is reflecting other light sources and that adds to the effect of it looking uneven.

Oliver Lewis
Oliver Lewis

So what are we seeing in this pic? Window blinds?

The delusion with you people is too real.

Ethan Turner
Ethan Turner

@63363647
Nope just the one just that wont stop spewing insults over anyone and anything. Same as the end of last thread and like 3 days ago too.
No point in adding to the arguments. It's all just spam.

Tyler Long
Tyler Long

Not what he was arguing. Please learn to read.

Jace Baker
Jace Baker

Looked it up and was directed to a replica forum. Try again sweety.

Zachary Howard
Zachary Howard

He literally said "features around the room".

So you agree that the pic simply shows the reflection of the hand's edge, right? And that it's chattery along the entire length?

Kayden Lopez
Kayden Lopez

Not sure what it is but the reflection on the bezel of the wrist shot of the same watch frim the same article shows a similar striped patern of multiple light sources that would more than explain what you see on the dial.

Carson Green
Carson Green

Friendly new
/g/thread/63363726#p63363726
/g/thread/63363726#p63363726
/g/thread/63363726#p63363726

Nathan Baker
Nathan Baker

Get triggered, retards.

Thomas Barnes
Thomas Barnes

I still cant find cheap golden casio.
I wont pay 50 euros for one.

Luis Sanders
Luis Sanders

If youd ever held a rolex sub youd know what you were seeing. They have a texture to the side of them while still being a matte reflection. It's on my sub too.
Oh my god. thats literally a replica. How dumb are you.

Elijah Rogers
Elijah Rogers

the reflection on the bezel of the wrist shot of the same watch frim the same article shows a similar striped patern
Where?

Alexander Johnson
Alexander Johnson

GOOGLE IMAGE SEARCH IT RETARD. ITS A REPLICA. nice try tho.

Parker Lopez
Parker Lopez

thats literally a replica
Protip: it's not.

Ayden Adams
Ayden Adams

They have a texture to the side of them
Yeah, you can see it in

Aiden Johnson
Aiden Johnson

ok thats enough of falling for your bait. The image is a stock photo for a replica company.

Adrian Campbell
Adrian Campbell

not knowing what rolexmagazine.com is

The pic was made by Jake Ehrlich of rolexmagazine.com, and that is Eduardo Raffaelli's Rolex Daytona.
http://www.rolexmagazine.com/2009/05/rolex-macro-shot-of-day-black-dial.html

Luke Garcia
Luke Garcia

There's one on Yahoo auctions now.

http://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/d255395286

Charles Ramirez
Charles Ramirez

you literally have a cartoon caricature for a hand wtf man, fix that shit

Anthony Morris
Anthony Morris

if you google image this you get a lot of japanese websites. this warrants an investigation and explanation

Kayden Foster
Kayden Foster

They still make it, (AFAIK), but it seems to be getting more expenisve every year.

Nathan Taylor
Nathan Taylor

Yes of course, I'm going to buy the tools regardless.

Xavier Fisher
Xavier Fisher

yay or nay?

Daniel Hughes
Daniel Hughes

it's $15 dawg what are you worried about?

Mason Howard
Mason Howard

Orient has some really nice automatic ladies pieces.

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