Do companies really care...

Easton Green
Easton Green

If I fail a hair test for weed?

I've heard mixed things (comp sci btw)

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/does-marijuana-use-affect-driving
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/often?src=search-dict-hed
Bentley Flores
Bentley Flores

Fuck off druggie.

Ayden Russell
Ayden Russell

depends on the company

Dylan Jones
Dylan Jones

Depends on how big they are, but if they're testing you then they probably care.

Jose Robinson
Jose Robinson

This

Jaxon Barnes
Jaxon Barnes

doing weed
stay safe user

Noah Cruz
Noah Cruz

I have never been tested for drugs in my life.

Lincoln Mitchell
Lincoln Mitchell

If they don't test, they don't care. The converse also applies

Ian Green
Ian Green

fuck it user
face the future head on

Evan Green
Evan Green

Probs not for anything beyond 40 days.

Isaiah Gutierrez
Isaiah Gutierrez

If you are vital to their needs you probably won't get one, ever.
Trust me.

Bentley Price
Bentley Price

I've only been drug tested when I worked retail

Austin Morales
Austin Morales

Shave your head

Jaxson Hall
Jaxson Hall

hair test for weed
Oh wow get a load of this retard.

Julian Hill
Julian Hill

This.

Hair-strand tests are draconian and intrusive. They collect samples of hair from the root and attempt to detect drugs and metabolites by performing ELISA (basically enzyme staining) as a first-stage, and then the more reliable GC-MS (gas chromatography-mass spectrometry) for confirmation.

I personally have refused one, and a contract that came with it, even though I do not abuse the drugs in question, because I was a contractor, and I would have wanted an enormous payment upfront, regardless of the test results, for me to consider giving you a big chunk of hair for one contract.

They are used for certain legal purposes, which I cannot advise you on here. Whether they are approved in employment law is a function of your jurisdiction and other matters, that I cannot answer here (the incidence of false positives, whose rarity depends roughly on the drug being tested, multiplies with the number of tests - taking repeated tests, or blanket screening with no probable cause, is not advised).

Cannabis metabolites like tetrahydrocannabinol and Nor-9-carboxy-delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol incorporate quite poorly into hair compared to the active ingredients and metabolites of other recreational drugs. Also, the increased rate of passive smoking incidence, particularly if people you spend time with or live with smoke cannabis, has meant the cutoff beyond which they can be relatively sure of use is quite high.

False negatives are therefore much more common for this specific drug than false positives, but I have seen both.

Note that synthetic (pseudo) cannabinoids (given names like "Spice" and "Black Mamba") are a separate, more expensive test, and there are hundreds of them to test for. You should definitely avoid taking them: they are much, much more dangerous than cannabis.

Tests are not always segmented. That usually costs a lot more as it requires chopping the sample into 10mm segments and testing them separately.

Noah Taylor
Noah Taylor

weed is bad mmk

yeah this meme needs to die.

Leo Hughes
Leo Hughes

smoking weed

soyboy detected.

Andrew Morris
Andrew Morris

giving a shit about weed testing
Just say you need it to control your autism and get yor doctor to sign off on it.

Camden Morales
Camden Morales

What the fuck is a soyboy

Leo Moore
Leo Moore

if you are doing your job and don't have any problems or go to work stoned, probably not.

Zachary Butler
Zachary Butler

Um, no, maybe don't shave your head. They're not retards, user.

Depending on your jurisdiction, people and courts might be able to draw inferences that you probably have used drugs (and that you have lied about/don't want to get caught for doing it) if you do something obvious and stupid like shave your head or attempt to use some aggressive hair treatment in between being told about a drug test requirement and actually taking the test sample.

However details are of course a legal question specific to your individual circumstances that obviously I cannot answer, and only an idiot would ask, on Sup Forums.

My mind boggles when hearing about that kind of workplace doing that. There is no legitimate, justifiable reason for it in my personal opinion - it's not like you're a forklift driver or a nuclear technician - it's just pure "stoners = lazy" prejudice from asshole bosses that ignores actual incidence, risk and consequence and doesn't help with staff turnover.

(Again, whether it is legal for them to do so is a completely different question that is not appropriate for this venue. You may wish to take independent legal advice about whether that is a reasonable condition in your employment contract in your jurisdiction - but if you're working retail, you probably can't afford to do that: and that's probably what they're banking on. Assholes.)

Angel Campbell
Angel Campbell

Hair tests are expensive. Usually employment tests are urine. Which is just as bad for weed. My mate has an apprentice on bail for murder he reckons he has smoked an oz of dope the past month and passed his fortnightly with a drink u buy. I was like wow so they do work. Shave your bag btw

Sebastian Diaz
Sebastian Diaz

I reckon do shave your head. Do military buzz cut. People are like oh he isa cop but u just say security officer part time

Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill

Weed turned me into a fucking retard when I smoked it every day and most my friends are psychotic and eventually went onto meth, as did i. But I only did it to be cool not coz I was an addict. I also have mental issues none of my 7 brothers or sisters have and I was the only one to smoke bulk weed.

Don't say it doesn't do anything. Coz it does. But I'd rather deal with a stoner than a drunk asshole any day.

Nolan Ross
Nolan Ross

I empathize with you and I'm sorry that happened, but that argument is stupid.

How weed affected you is how cookies and junk food affects compulsive eaters. It's the same argument. Someone could say: "I have 7 brothers and sisters, and none of them have the same compulsive eating neurosis I do--none of them eat cookies in bulk. Don't say junk food doesn't do anything. Coz it does"

You see? The problem isn't cookies (although granted, they are garbage for you but that's not the point)--the problem is the person who's eating them and their specific mental issues.

Weed isn't "bad" for you. Can't control yourself? Don't smoke.

Grayson Barnes
Grayson Barnes

Great argument I might use that one next time someone says meth is bad

Ryder Lopez
Ryder Lopez

Meth is objectively a lot worse and much more prone to physical addiction than weed. Take two people: 1) can't stop drinking tea and 2) can't stop drinking green monster energy drinks. The problem here is that they can't stop drinking their respective drinks; however, no one's gonna argue that drinking obscene amounts of green tea is the same as drinking the same quantity of monster energy drinks (the green kind). One is objectively worse than the other but the problem isn't the liquid, it's the person.

Josiah Clark
Josiah Clark

I tell u what I enjoyed weed for many years. I despise alcohol now (having done security work). Demon semen I call it. My concern is that the weed these days is so fucking potent. It's not the nice stuff anymore. it'll make you actually trip. I tripped off the strongest weed the same as I did after dropping 4 pills. CRAZY. Legalise it - but limit the THC content

Brody Roberts
Brody Roberts

Yeah for sure, I definitely agree that weed has gotten to crazy levels of potency. Not to mention these suspicious "dab rigs" I see around these days. It's all very strange. I guess I'll just stick with a few puffs from a joint to limit my intake instead of smoking a joint and having to clear my entire schedule.

Grayson Cook
Grayson Cook

Sheltered Christfags detected. You don't belong here.

Jaxson Cox
Jaxson Cox

Cool, cool.

Can you make one with crimes that don't hurt other people? Rape, genocide and stealing have a victim who isn't the person committing the crime. Drugs only hurt yourself.

Julian Reed
Julian Reed

Dead beat druggie detected you don't belong here

Angel Diaz
Angel Diaz

Drugs only hurt yourself.
I don't want to be a dick but just being on drugs can hurt others.
I have a family member who does nothing but fuck around and smoke weed, he'll spend money on pot before he'd spend it on buying lunch for his kid to take to school.
That kid has a shit life because his parents are both stoners who can't hold down jobs and don't give a fuck.
but alcohol can do that too!
you're right, it can.
But alcohol has been part of our culture for over a thousand years, marijuanna is relatively new.
Which is why it's so easy to make one illegal and not the other, see prohibition.

I enjoy a good drink and if you like smoking pot in your own home that's up to you.
But smoking pot as a parent, at work or while driving is unacceptable.

Charles Jenkins
Charles Jenkins

im not the guy you are responding to but seriously man this is Sup Forums if you think you are so virtuous for not smoking weed maybe you should go back to christian mingle you pussy

Austin Jenkins
Austin Jenkins

It's the same deal as drunk driving then. The fact that people do it doesn't mean the nanny state has to stop alcohol.
That aside, being self-destructive around your kids hurt them, no matter if it's drinking too much, smoking, hurting yourself, pretending to suicide or whatever. It's traumatizing, and you don't need drugs to come into play, though I guess it's easier when there is an addiction as a factor.

Nolan Hill
Nolan Hill

Is that sum false equivalency I see over der?

Daniel Sanders
Daniel Sanders

Marijuana is relatively new

No. No it isn't. Human beings have been consuming cannabis in one way or another for thousands of years. Honestly I have to ask you: why do you feel entitled to an opinion on something you don't actually know anything about?

I'm going to assume that you're young, because most people over the age of 20 don't spout the kind of stupid shit you are.

I earn about 68k per year. I take good care of my children. I smoke weed. Is it so hard for you to accept that you are wrong and that in a lot of cases it's not actually the drugs causing people to reject society (except opiates, fuck that shit) but society rejecting an individual for doing with their own bodies what they will. You might actually be surprised at the number of very functioning drug users (and I mean "heavy" drugs like coke and meth too) who work and take care of their kids. You'd never know they had a drug "problem," because it isn't actually a problem. You, along with most of society has been brainwashed into being judgemental and biased. The judgemental part is what tells me you're a butthurt Christfag.

Grayson Sanders
Grayson Sanders

I hope you're using a VPN, you might lose your kids

Jonathan Reyes
Jonathan Reyes

I live in Colorado buddy. Not too worried about that.

Carter Hernandez
Carter Hernandez

btard detected

Nathan Cooper
Nathan Cooper

ok?

Lucas Anderson
Lucas Anderson

it doesn't matter where you are, once child services hears you spend your time on an anime nazi child pornography forum they'll come knocking.

Eli Flores
Eli Flores

alcohol is way better than weed

Jacob Jackson
Jacob Jackson

drink alot of milk and keep clean for a week

thats how i passed the drug test on driving licence in my country

William Reyes
William Reyes

So in other words you're such a butthurt Christfag that you actually reported an anonymous post on the Internet known for being filled with complete bullshit?

I really pity you.

Isaiah Morris
Isaiah Morris

hey why do you drink alcohol
none of your business, fuck off.

hey why do you smoke weed?
OH MY GOD YOU FUCKING CHRISTFAG ASSHOLES DON'T YOU KNOW HOW HARMLESS POT IS I BET YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW GRAVITY WORKS YOU FUCKING RETARDS IT'S MY RIGHT TO DO WHAT I WANT WITH MY BODY YOU TOXIC HUMAN BEING IF EVERYONE SMOKED THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE

Jayden Martin
Jayden Martin

You are toxic though. You want to subject everyone else to your retarded backwards views through laws ruining lives FOR THE LAWD. The funniest part about it is that Christfags can do some of the worst things and justify it in their own heads that it's "God's will". How fucking self-righteous can you get?

Kayden Sanders
Kayden Sanders

are niggers on this board still arguing over smoking weed?
underage nig nogs need to LEAVE

Austin Bell
Austin Bell

[citation needed]

Mason Hall
Mason Hall

I'm a christfag and I was sticking needles in my arm when I was 15 lmao then bigger needles for roids when I wanted to fuck hotter chicks. Now I have prescription for dex, alprazolam and codeine (for legitimate issues) but they don't get me intoxicated. I don't even like getting intoxicated. Unless it's speed lmao. Seriously tho. I like being sober. When I kick the shit out of some annoying guy guess who the cops believe? Christian or yelling drunk

Joshua White
Joshua White

I work in a hospital user if I get hurt I get tested for drugs.

Isaac Peterson
Isaac Peterson

Man, you are doing so well. Why did you have to assume he's a Christfag and bring religion into this? You could have just kept punching from within the pocket of the argument. Good points though.

Aiden Garcia
Aiden Garcia

child pornography

what? hate to break it to you fucko but if the mods let cp stay up for extended periods of time, this place would get shut down and its staff run through the ringer. If you're talking about loli, its presence is unfortunate but it's not illegal.

Elijah Rogers
Elijah Rogers

unfortunate
Out of my board!

Josiah Parker
Josiah Parker

Now stop eating animals in moderation

Kevin Murphy
Kevin Murphy

What did you do after work?
Took the dog to the park, smoked a joint and then cleaned my house, nothing special
DUDE WEEEED
DUDE LMAO BLAZE ITTT
FUCKING DEGENERATE I JUST CALLED ANIMAL CONTROL TO HAVE YOUR IRRESPONSIBLE DOG OWNERSHIP TAKEN AWAY YOU SUBHUMAN

Cameron Watson
Cameron Watson

The biggest problem with pot is how it makes you gay.
The one time I tried weed I ended up staying up to 5am fapping to traps and I had to come to work the next day with an erection.
Luckily because of the 3 hour rule I was able to leave on medical reasons, my boss was very understanding but it was still very embarrassing.
I will never smoke weed ever again, I don't want to end up like Michael Jackson.

Charles Perez
Charles Perez

Go shave your head and put off the interview for a couple of weeks. Shave your head again the day of the interview. If they suggest taking hair from elsewhere, overreact and accuse them of sexual harassment.

Christian Lee
Christian Lee

My country is considering castrating all the marijuana users so they don't pass on the stoner gene but smelly potheads keep complaining about it.

Andrew Torres
Andrew Torres

to be fair you really shouldn't own pets if you're a marijuana user.
I'd probably report you too.

That dog didn't do anything wrong, he deserves better.

Aaron Anderson
Aaron Anderson

That dog didn't do anything wrong

Neither did the guy smoking cannabis you nutter. I wish Christianity was illegal in this country. I would relish ratting you out "for your own good" of course.

Jonathan Evans
Jonathan Evans

Newest /pol/ meme word. It means a man with low testosterone levels (who probably has different political views than /pol/). It comes from the fact that eating soy might lower your testosterone levels

Jaxon Wright
Jaxon Wright

actually Christianity is illegal in my country for promoting homosexuality, which is why marijuana is such a big deal.
Bestiality would be the prime concern, even large dogs can be severely damaged from intercourse with a human and it can be traumatizing for them at the very least.
When I volunteered at the dog shelter there were 3 dogs I had to care for that had specifically been molested and/or raped by stoners.

Noah Roberts
Noah Roberts

Let me first say, I don't smoke weed (or anything for matter, I like my lungs to not be full of garbage). That said, there's nothing wrong with weed. There's no conclusive proof of any harmful effects, and only anecdotal evidence suggesting that it MIGHT lead to heart problems in certain people. Weed users are also generally non-violent, they are really chill and the only downside of hanging out with them is the need to buy them lots of fucking food.

Considering the beneficial medicinal effects that it has, there is really no way to justify keeping weed illegal. Not to mention, a large percentage of US inmates are in prison for possession of this not-so-harmful drug. How much money is our government wasting to keep these people behind bars? Weed is a potential source of profit for the government if it is legalized, taxed, and regulated. Not only this, but if weed is legalized, it opens the door to growing hemp plants, which are an even larger benefit.

The real reason weed is still illegal is because the paper industry doesn't want to see any upstart company making paper from hemp, they want to keep cutting down forests and making bank. Oh, and the private prison lobbyists who have a vested interest in locking up as many innocent people as possible so the government will pay them more money.

Charles Hall
Charles Hall

the green kind
Good thing I only drink the white /sip/

Aaron Gonzalez
Aaron Gonzalez

it's illegal because any time people are allowed to/can get away with doing it, they do it whenever they can because they think "weed doesn't affect me lol, i can even drive high", regardless of how much evidence to the contrary you present to them

because while weed shaves off 20 IQ points for ~4 hours, the novel falsehoods and sillinesses you come up with while under its influence register with your brain as divine truth that only a genius could conceive of

i wasn't dumber, i was MORE CREATIVE! it's a DIFFERENT way of thinking!

Owen Brown
Owen Brown

Are you any better? Why are you so invested in this?

Levi Morris
Levi Morris

DUDE WEED DUDE LMAO

Hudson Price
Hudson Price

That's not really a good argument for making it illegal though. Alcohol and many other over the counter and prescription meds impair driving ability and are fully legal.

Easton Ramirez
Easton Ramirez

This argument makes no sense. Alcohol has an even worse effect on people than weed does. We already have the solution to this problem. If someone is driving erratically, you pull them over and test them, then arrest their ass for driving under the influence. The end.

Weed should be treated in the same manner as alcohol. Regulate it, tax it, and arrest people who abuse it in public. There's no problem getting completely wasted at home, but if you do it in public, you will get slapped with drunk and disorderly conduct. So do the same shit with weed. You walk around being a retarded stoner in public, you get slapped with disorderly conduct and pay your fine. Next time, you'll stay at home while you blaze.

It's really not rocket science. Only TRULY harmful drugs which are dangerous and addictive should be completely illegal. Heroin, Cocaine, etc. really have no place in society and are rightfully illegal. Weed? Come on. You might as well go back to the 20s and make alcohol illegal again. It's complete nonsense. Especially considering how many uses the hemp plant has for modern industry.

Gavin Sullivan
Gavin Sullivan

False equivalency. Your example is pretty fringe, and I'm honestly fucking surprised to hear what you just said. Either way, not all cannabis users are dog fuckers asshole.

Eli Moore
Eli Moore

Its been a quite long while since I've fiddled with drug testing particulars, but I know that there are certain regulations where hair is concerned. Although not for employment, I was able to refuse a hair test and go for a blood/piss test. And also if any positives occur you can demand a retest by federal law.

Now, again in my instance it was not for job purposes, but it might apply. Citations obviously needed but too lazy to provide. Just an errant opinion.

Josiah Sanchez
Josiah Sanchez

Uh, no. The other user was pretty spot-on with why marijuana was made illegal. You're just spouting bullshit you heard from other people (which isn't a surprise since you're an obvious sheep who does what he's told with no capacity for independent, rational thought). The police have training goggles that allegedly show you how impaired you become when you've smoked or ingested some pot. Wouldn't you know that it was 100% completely divorced from reality? That the goggles were complete bullshit?

What's the need for such deception on the part of the government if this plant is as harmful as you delusional fucks believe it is?

Joseph Smith
Joseph Smith

not all cannabis users are dog fuckers asshole.
obviously, not all christians are homosexuals either.
And not all black people own a knife.
But you need to legislate against trends in order to protect the public, permitting cannabis to satisfy a few smokers instead of protecting innocent animals is not the way to go.
If they were able to extract the properties of marijuana to make it enjoyable without the harmful anti-social side-effects it would be ideal.

Jaxon Lee
Jaxon Lee

You're acting like a significant percentage of weed smokers like to fuck animals. You're delusional. If someone fucks an animal while high, they were probably attracted to animals in the first place.

Matthew Thomas
Matthew Thomas

not him and goggles seems like a dumb idea but marijuana demonstrably affects your reaction speed which is what makes it so fatal behind the wheel.
Alcohol and sleep deprivation also do this so it's not all on smokers but that's why roadside drug testing is so common now.
No one wants to die because of someone else's habit.

If you want to smoke, you need to do it at home and take a cab/public transport if you need to move about.

Ryder Fisher
Ryder Fisher

You're trying to equate the actions of a handful of sexual deviants with every other cannabis user. It is exactly the same as me saying that because child porn has been posted on the Internet before by a small group of pedophiles, every human being is a pedophile. No exceptions.

Your line of thinking is fallacious. You should probably consider manual labor, because I believe higher thinking is a bit beyond you.

Alexander Hall
Alexander Hall

[Citation needed]

Protip: I've been smoking and driving since I was 16 years old and have never had an accident. But please, you seem to have so much knowledge and experience, tell me more.

Kevin Martinez
Kevin Martinez

it's significant enough to be an issue.
Bestiality is rare in itself, the fact 40% of reported cases the offenders were on marijuana or other illegal drug cannot be an outlier.
There's no way they just happen to coincidentally like both animal sex and drugs, marijuana may not make everyone a zoophile but it reacts that way with enough of the population to be a concern.

Isaac Gray
Isaac Gray

Nope, just means that you have a bunch of mentally disturbed, low education level peasants doing peasant shit in your country. Sorry you have people in your country that fuck animals enough that it's actually a pandemic, but that isn't an issue where I live. I guess you could take solace in the fact that, at least you don't live in India.

Easton Moore
Easton Moore

if they do test you it'll be a piss test and not a hair test

Jacob Lewis
Jacob Lewis

a drinker could just as easily say that.
the fact you haven't had an accident is because everyone else on the road is watching out for you, not because it's harmless, you've fallen into the fallacy that because you've been fine so far that it doesn't affect you.

John Jenkins
John Jenkins

Actually weed DOES affect your driving, just because you think it doesn't, doesn't mean you are fine. Actually the BBC did studies about this, they found that, while weed does have a negative effect on your driving, it is nowhere even close to that of alcohol.

No shit Sherlock. If someone who secretly likes animals deep down takes a drug that destroys their inhibitions, what happens? So, we just ban every fucking thing under the sun to protect a few dogs from a comparatively minuscule number of deviants? How many animals are sexually abused in the US yearly? And what percentage of those are from illegal drug use? And what percentage of that is from weed? We'd probably be looking at a few tens of whackos, maybe a couple hundred tops across the whole country? And you want to ban a substance because of that? What a joke. You might as well ban chocolate. How many fucking dogs die because owners feed them chocolate every year? I bet you a lot more than however many get sexually abused.

Joseph Lopez
Joseph Lopez

The paper industry is why it was made illegal

Now it's illegal because the last thing we need is another drug that makes people dumber, let alone one with a longer half life than ehtanol and a base of users who think it doesn't make the dumber.

Dominic Powell
Dominic Powell

Actually, what you just said is the logical leap, because you base it on absolutely nothing. Still waiting on that [citation].

Jeremiah Diaz
Jeremiah Diaz

Actually weed DOES affect your driving, just because you think it doesn't, doesn't mean you are fine. Actually the BBC did studies about this, they found that, while weed does have a negative effect on your driving, it is nowhere even close to that of alcohol.

So in other words it's completely irrelevant and you're just depending on being technically correct (you're not because the BBC isn't a scientific organization.)

STILL waiting on that [citation] from a peer reviewed source.

Thomas Scott
Thomas Scott

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/does-marijuana-use-affect-driving
"I'm fine I never had a crash"
has a crash
"what the fuck, I never had a crash until I had a crash!"

Hunter Nguyen
Hunter Nguyen

Makes people dumber? Gonna need a citation for that as well, seeing as how I have a tested IQ of 168 and smoke marijuana religiously.

Jackson Bell
Jackson Bell

caring about animal rights

lower organisms are tools, not citizens. if some random stray that is far beyond the point of being trained to be useful is "traumatized", and we had no use for it in the first place, fuck it. use its carbon for something else. we have a massive surplus of the things and they do nothing but compete with us for resources (literally everything they eat is something we can also eat by applying different processing methods), shit in the streets, cause physical harm to random people and spread disease.

if weed increases instances of animal "abuse" , then i say we need more of it.

but let's promote euthanasia and reprocessing over fucking. fucking is a waste of calories.

Dylan Wright
Dylan Wright

However, the role played by marijuana in crashes is often unclear because it can be detected in body fluids for days or even weeks after intoxication and because people frequently combine it with alcohol.

They base their conclusions on faulty data. What a surprise. The hilarity is that they openly admit that they don't know what they're talking about with that one, simple sentence, and you STILL take it as scientific.

Christopher Allen
Christopher Allen

how come stoners complain about christfags but get so flustered when they're presented credible studies that prove the negative effects of marijuana?
They seem about as ignorant as climate change deniers or creationists, why do they think they're the only ones that can deny science because of their faith?

Landon Campbell
Landon Campbell

Point to the credible study again?

Asher Wood
Asher Wood

actually Christianity is illegal in my country for promoting homosexuality
w-what
christian here, please explain how do we promote homos

Adam Jackson
Adam Jackson

logically you think smokers are just naturally terrible drivers then.
if your argument is the data proves nothing because marijuana can be detected weeks afterwards and marijuana is associated with higher numbers of crashes then either intoxication does affect driving, or these people are just not clean after a few days and they coincidentally suck at driving.

Robert Jenkins
Robert Jenkins

gas chromatography isn't reliable wtf are you on

Jeremiah Jackson
Jeremiah Jackson

Dont take the test you are going to fail.
Better deal with consequences of having refused

Evan Ross
Evan Ross

Do you have basic reading comprehension skills? Read the quoted part of my post and you'll see why any conclusion they came to was fallacious from the start because of the methodology utilized. I thought I was supposed to be the stupid one here? You know, since I'm just some dumb stoner. :^)

Wyatt Peterson
Wyatt Peterson

you're not actually saying anything though, you're just groaning about how nothing anyone says counts because you heard from a friend that weed is fine for driving.
There a reason why stoners don't get laid and it's not because you're stupid or because you don't wash.
It's because no women want to smell dog pussy off a dick.

Josiah Murphy
Josiah Murphy

any conclusion they came to was fallacious from the start because of the methodology utilized
It isn't, you're just braindamaged.

Daniel Baker
Daniel Baker

Fuck off.
You have no right to protect me from myself.
And no I'm not asking for a stoned driving permission, i want to be left alone in the prvacy of my own house watching movies stoned on weekends.

Brody Gray
Brody Gray

"I can't hear you lalalalala~" -You

Let me try to explain it to you, since you appear to be as dense as lead: I commission a study to determine whether or not eating Tacos prior to driving has a detrimental effect on the Taco eater's driving ability. BUT THERE'S A PROBLEM: How do you know that they had just eaten a Taco? So you have to test their bodily fluids for Taco remnants. But, of course, the Taco stays in your bodily fluids for very long periods of time, so there is no way to know if you had just eaten the Taco or not. And because the Taco doesn't affect your ability to drive just a few hours after eating, there is absolutely no way to prove conclusively that the Taco had any impact at all.

Do you get it now? If you don't, it's because you want to remain ignorant, which is of course, no surprise.

Jackson Price
Jackson Price

combines brain damaged into one word
Doesn't even hyphenate
Calls other people brain damaged

I've explained why the methodology utilized was flawed. Deal with it, you delusional faggot.

Nicholas Edwards
Nicholas Edwards

Now do the same pic, but with alcohol.
inb4 stoner
I haven't smoked weed in at least 5 years.

Isaac Miller
Isaac Miller

tfw faith is very private in your country and announcing your faith or promoting religion is borderline taboo

Thomas Hall
Thomas Hall

This thread is a fucking treasure.

Thank you, OP.

Jonathan Roberts
Jonathan Roberts

Good country

Julian Hall
Julian Hall

tfw failed penis inspection
good by working life

Jayden Hughes
Jayden Hughes

Bestiality
Cite these figures. Seriously. And also make sure the methodology is sound. Was it just weed? Crystal meth? What about Sup Forums usage?

Joshua Rodriguez
Joshua Rodriguez

Also WHY THE FUCK is this on Sup Forums

Julian Thomas
Julian Thomas

I've explained why the methodology utilized was flawed
No, you actually haven't explained anything. You've just made idiotic claims based on deliberately misreading a single sentence.

Elijah Murphy
Elijah Murphy

Whatever you have to tell yourself buddy. They admit in the sentence itself that the data is faulty.

However, the role played by marijuana in crashes is often unclear because it can be detected in body fluids for days or even weeks after intoxication and because people frequently combine it with alcohol.
However, the role played by marijuana in crashes is often unclear
However, the role played by marijuana in crashes is often unclear
However, the role played by marijuana in crashes is often unclear

Get it yet retard?

Nolan Anderson
Nolan Anderson

No actually it's a point. Correlation fallacy so to speak. Methoedology in statistical measures MUST show that it's not a correlative trend instead of a causative one. Please take a statistics class.

Other pro blems include sampling methodology. The cause could easy be correlative with weed if the cuasation is lets say poverty. Sociological problems often have multiple correlative issues with some underlying behavioral causes.

Julian Davis
Julian Davis

unless you're muslim

Luis Butler
Luis Butler

100% of rapists have appendages that can penetrate various orifices...
Let's cut off everyone's dicks, fingers, toes and tongues...

Blake Robinson
Blake Robinson

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/often?src=search-dict-hed
Now kill yourself retard.

Anthony Richardson
Anthony Richardson

Why would I kill myself when it's pretty obvious that you don't understand the requirements for data collected in a study to be considered factual?

The only person who should kill themselves is you, brainlet. Literally retarded holy fuck.

Jeremiah Gonzalez
Jeremiah Gonzalez

for me to consider giving you a big chunk of hair for one contract.

How much hair do they take??

Jose Stewart
Jose Stewart

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I'd be pretty mad too, if I kept getting proven wrong because I was functionally illiterate.

Chase Cooper
Chase Cooper

DUDE

Angel Fisher
Angel Fisher

Why not just tell them to fuck off and go work elsewhere?
I don't smoke weed, but this company doesn't seem like a nice place.

Grayson James
Grayson James

Functionally illiterate? Look you fucking dipshit: the data collected is not scientific because the data collected relies on the presence of metabolites in the blood which persist there for weeks. Obviously you don't smoke once and stay high for 3 weeks, even a brainlet like you can (hopefully) determine at least that. The high from marijuana lasts anywhere from 1 to 8 hours depending on two factors: frequency of use and strength of cannabis consumed. This means that the data is SKEWED and there is no way to determine if cannabinoids present in the blood stream are responsible for the car accident or not.

You dense motherfucker.

Luis Torres
Luis Torres

Nobody does hair tests.

Adrian White
Adrian White

I don't smoke weed myself, but the amount hostility weed users are facing recently is ridiculous.
Commie stoners are garbage, certainly, but there are a lot of weed smokers that are well-adjusted, social and functional people.

Kayden Taylor
Kayden Taylor

but there are a lot of weed smokers that are well-adjusted, social and functional people
Name one

Connor Miller
Connor Miller

So, do you keep it up because it provides you with a much needed ego boost, or does it just really make you angry that people enjoy things you hate? Sort yourself out faggot. Stop worrying about what other people are doing and worry about yourself.

Caleb Long
Caleb Long

Sup Forums has standards, newfag.

Druggies need to be culled and fed to the dogs

Thomas Collins
Thomas Collins

The only newfag here is you. Go back to r_TheDonald faggot.

Joseph Ward
Joseph Ward

Sup Forums is the meeting place of weebs, pedos and autists. The only standard is that no furries are allowed, and that was ages ago because now we have /mlp/ there.

Eli Bailey
Eli Bailey

weed smokers that are well-adjusted, social and functional people
case in point

James Adams
James Adams

4chan
standards

Are you sure you aren't the newfag, newfag?

Josiah Lopez
Josiah Lopez

Except normies are still not allowed
gtfo

Colton Brooks
Colton Brooks

Ah, you seem to have mistaken me for someone who tolerates dipshits (such as yourself) spewing their mouths on subjects they scarcely understand. You expect me to act courteously to the people who think I should be culled and fed to dogs because I smoke a plant they don't understand? Get bent faggot.

Landon Robinson
Landon Robinson

normies
Spotted the normalfag.

Caleb Bennett
Caleb Bennett

If I fail a hair test for weed?
yes. No one forces you do consume drugs.

Jacob Ross
Jacob Ross

This, I work as a software dev and if I've done a 10-14 hour day I like to smoke some weed to relax.

If I just have a regular 8 hour shift then I don't need/want it.

Connor Cruz
Connor Cruz

This. I suppose you think it's well adjusted to tell someone to kill themselves for smoking weed? Or saying that you want to kill them and feed them to dogs? Doesn't sound very well adjusted to me.

Asher Robinson
Asher Robinson

why are stoners so defensive about the dog fucker thing?
If they hate being labelled as dog fuckers, maybe they shouldn't do it?

Aaron Carter
Aaron Carter

What kind of retarded, backwards logic is that? Are you actually retarded? Why can you not infer that they simply don't want to be associated with dog fuckers? If I claimed there was a trend of shotgun owners engaging in bestiality with cattle and you owned a shotgun, would you not want to establish that you don't condone fucking cattle?

Why are there so many retarded hicks on the Technology board?

Caleb Lopez
Caleb Lopez

the difference is one is true and one is hypothetical though.
you can make anything sound silly if you frame it like that.

Jaxson Garcia
Jaxson Garcia

Because it actually is, as you put it, silly. There are no facts or figures to back it up, just a claim by some anonymous that there is a "Christian Homosexual Stoner Dog Fucker" epidemic in his country which may or may not actually be a thing. But you sure are running with it aren't you? Such a pitiable human being too. I bet you're one of the first to bitch and moan when gun regulation becomes the flavor of the month topic of discussion yet have no problems denying the "rights" of others.

Ryder Davis
Ryder Davis

hypothetical

So you're suggesting that drunk hillbillies with shotguns don't fuck their dairy cows? Because that actually does happen. There must be some correlation between shotguns and bestiality!

Noah Roberts
Noah Roberts

actually guns are illegal here, like marijuanna.
homosexuality isn't but at least that doesn't hurt anybody, a gay man can consent but a dog cannot even if losers say they can.

That's the thing I think you're failing to grasp here, consent is important whether you like it or not, "lower beings" may not be able to write a great work or comprehend the size of the universe but they're still entitled to decide who they do and don't have sex with.

James Nguyen
James Nguyen

The mistake that you keep making is thinking that I condone having sex with animals. Can you point out, at any point, where I defended dog fucking? You can't? Imagine that! Again, all I've said is that just because these guys smoked marijuana doesn't mean all marijuana users fuck animals.

Kevin Cook
Kevin Cook

correlation =/= causation you phillistine.
if pot causes people to fuck dogs that doesn't mean shotguns cause people to fuck cows that's retarded.
I mean just listen to yourself.

Juan Ortiz
Juan Ortiz

correlation =/= causation you phillistine.

Jesus Titty Fucking Christ, Cletus, are you done being a retard? There is no fucking evidence that weed causes people to want to fuck animals.

Asher Taylor
Asher Taylor

just because these guys smoked marijuana doesn't mean all marijuana users fuck animals.
I never said you condone sex with animals so I can't point it out.
And you can't point out where I said "all marijuana users fuck animals".
I've never heard of the association before this thread but the fact that there's an actual causal link as the dog shelter user described makes me really concerned.
I would never claim every one in a group is responsible for the crimes of a subset of the group, but that doesn't mean we should ignore the subset.

Zachary Morris
Zachary Morris

Why in the fuck would you be concerned about an isolated case, you mongoloid?

Robert Richardson
Robert Richardson

40% is isolated?
maybe it's worse in his country but if it can happen there why not anywhere else?
I am always concerned when it comes to animal abuse, it's the most despicable shit you can do to a non-human.
I just think if what he says is true you guys shouldn't dismiss it, that kind of cover-up is why Holliwood was able to get away with sexual misconduct for so long.

Jordan Nguyen
Jordan Nguyen

Probably because it has absolutely nothing to do with marijuana, as evidenced by the fact that this is only happening in his country? First I've heard of it, to be honest. You'd think if there was some sort of Christian Homosexual Stoner Dog Fucker cult, you'd have heard something about it by now? Either way, it hasn't happened anywhere else. By the way, have you done anything to verify that anon's claims? Because I can't seem to find anything about it. Seems almost like... it's made up?

Gavin Young
Gavin Young

nah mane when I see someone shagging an animal it's always a pothead

Jose Gonzalez
Jose Gonzalez

Yeah, sure. Tell me, what country is this supposed to be happening in?

Hunter Reyes
Hunter Reyes

he verified it because he worked at the dog shelter, I've worked in a shelter too and you really see the worst shit you wouldn't even imagine.
I actually hate dog fuckers so much, sometimes they fucking drop them off on the side of the street after they've just destroyed their bodies.
Like "yep I'm done with it, you take em!"
It fucking riles me up so much, the cowards can't look you in the eye as they drop them off, they fucking just drop their bodies on the street.
There needs to be CCTVs around dog shelters and vet clinics, catch their licence plates.

Dylan Carter
Dylan Carter

I'm sympathetic and I've seen some pretty fucked up shit that got my blood boiling. But I can't stress enough how absolutely outlandish his claim that marijuana makes people fuck animals is. I've been smoking for almost 30 years and have never once had the inkling to have sex with an animal. I'm thinking these people would have been fucking animals with or without marijuana, personally.

Jaxson Torres
Jaxson Torres

I don't care who you are, no one can defend this shit

Angel Myers
Angel Myers

Nobody is trying to....?

Ryan Smith
Ryan Smith

I've been all over the world and hashish was involved in 100% of the cases of zoophilia I was involved in, and the countries with the highest rate of zoophiliacs per capita are countries where weed is legal/cultural/tolerated I.E. the netherlands or germany.
Need I direct you towards zoophile body of works produced in the aforementioned locations ?

Ryan Sullivan
Ryan Sullivan

Okay? But that doesn't mean the marijuana compulsed them to have sex with animals. It is far more likely they were already inclined towards sex with animals and were just using drugs? Jesus Christ.
"I'm going to ignore the millions and millions of normal stoners and fixate on a fringe group of animal fuckers who happen to smoke pot." - You

Camden Reyes
Camden Reyes

ah yes so the statistical correlation between weed (and opioids) consumption and zoophile acts is not enough for you.

Eli Wright
Eli Wright

As this idiot inadvertently pointed out, correlation =/= causation.

Kevin Richardson
Kevin Richardson

wait, why are smokers defending bestiality?
what's even the connection?

Alexander Fisher
Alexander Fisher

jesus

Adrian Gonzalez
Adrian Gonzalez

Nobody is defending bestiality you fucking moron. Just leave.

Colton Cox
Colton Cox

then what's even the argument?

Lucas Williams
Lucas Williams

If they care enough to give you a hair follicle test (one of the more expensive kinds of tests), then you can bet that they will care if you fail it.

Dominic Parker
Dominic Parker

shave your head
They take your leg hair idiots.

Brayden Harris
Brayden Harris

that for some reason potheads are more prone to engage in bestiality based on anon's anecdotal evidence

Tyler Torres
Tyler Torres

what's the argument though?

Sebastian Lee
Sebastian Lee

These fucking morons keep trying to draw the conclusion that marijuana makes you want to fuck animals despite all evidence to the contrary because of a fringe group of, and I quote "Christian Homosexual Stoner Dog Fuckers" in some guy's country.

The whole thing is fucking asinine and evidence of the low average IQ of our species.

Ryder White
Ryder White

Trying to make user understand he's a fucking brainlet but he is in full defence mode so it takes a few people to crush his spirit.

Anthony Sanders
Anthony Sanders

still I don't get why you're so intent on defending bestiality and zoophilia

John Wright
John Wright

what's your fucking problem, man?

Mason Walker
Mason Walker

Literally retarded. You don't deserve another response after this.

Jonathan Wilson
Jonathan Wilson

But nobody here is defending it?

Jackson Lee
Jackson Lee

Companies do care.
My advice is to stop doing that stuff for a while if you're going to get tested although if your company do the tests to begin with they may also do random ones so you're kinda fucked.

Sorry bro but you're kinda in deep shit if you want to do pot and work in a place that has a policy against it.

I don't smoke or drink anything so I never really had problems with this stuff. And to be honest the only places who ever tested me were medical and bank related places I guess they didn't want someone to be high in those positions.

Alexander Ward
Alexander Ward

the fact he's so defensive is suspicious in itself.
that or it's not really a pothead and just some troll pretending he sympathizes with bestiality.

Aiden Hernandez
Aiden Hernandez

I think he's a defensive pothead with zoophile tendencies, he maybe never acted upon them but feels threatened by his pulsions because he can barely keep them in check when high

Josiah Hall
Josiah Hall

mixed things
Well they fall into two camps. Serious businesses that don't condone illegal activities from its employers officially and in practice while actual political stance is left out because they're a company.
And hippies (or hipsters, loose folk who consider themselves more than they are and have very limited perspective on the world) who make startups that'll squander every opportunity they get but may have a lax stance towards certain illegal activity.

I say you should probably not do drugs to your professional detriment. Regardless of where you think you are if you think it'd be a professional problem is the drugs really worth it? Perhaps you have a drug problem if you actually think you should do drugs when the risks are high. (something I question with every light illegal drug user)
Depending on company culture you could talk to your boss about it. My idea of the situation is that the lies implicit in not admitting to doing drugs when there's a test for it is much worse than the usage of drugs. I think most people will find that to be the case. Very few people are so strongly opposed drugs that they'd take it as worse than hiding it.
Just as a strategy. The band of companies that would fire you is limited that way, I speculate. Maybe if you admit it they could have you quit and do regular testing.
I've refused
I think most people would view that as hiding guilt but I'm with you on that.

Luke Scott
Luke Scott

No, you fucking morons. I'm trying to establish that I don't endorse or enjoy, in any form, bestiality or zoophilia. None of what I say matters though, since you're literal retards.

Brandon Evans
Brandon Evans

then why the fuck are you arguing the point?

Adrian Moore
Adrian Moore

Can you point out where I argued in favor of bestiality? You can't? Shut the fuck up.

Ayden Ortiz
Ayden Ortiz

point out exactly where I said you did, you moron.

Angel Davis
Angel Davis

Im pretty sure 4 out of 5 of the people i work with are stoners. But i mean theyre functioning and not stoned at work so whatever

Nolan Reed
Nolan Reed

You're dense. It's been said multiple times either by you or others that I'm somehow defending bestiality despite having never said a single thing in favor of it, and why would I? It's fucking disgusting.

Carson Garcia
Carson Garcia

I know that, I'm wondering why you're arguing about it?

Eli Ward
Eli Ward

Because people keep implying, suggesting and even outright claiming that I'm defending bestiality?

Chase Ramirez
Chase Ramirez

well stop arguing with them then, ypour intentions may be right but you're indrectly encouraging bestiality by taking that side

Joshua Morales
Joshua Morales

What kind of fucked up retard logic is that? I say "bestiality is fucking disgusting" and I'm indirectly encouraging it? Pointing out that there is no evidence to suggest marijuana consumption leads to bestiality is indirectly encouraging bestiality? You're right about one thing: time to stop arguing, because I'm arguing with dipshits.

Logan Gutierrez
Logan Gutierrez

well at least you figured out you were being baited eventually

Nicholas Ross
Nicholas Ross

not him but

i was only pretending to be retarded!

certainly applies to this situation

Noah Sullivan
Noah Sullivan

it's not my fault that I say smokers are dog fuckers as an obvious joke at anti-pot posters and dumb potheads take it seriously.

Jack Stewart
Jack Stewart

nigger if they are going through the trouble of hair testing you they fucking care.

Kayden Butler
Kayden Butler

how is somebody supposed to know that you're joking without any context you moron?

Nathaniel Rodriguez
Nathaniel Rodriguez

dude you're dealing with literal autists

Thomas Davis
Thomas Davis

dude how am I supposed to know people didn't think weed caused bestiality
only on Sup Forums.

Leo Carter
Leo Carter

Considering all the other dumb shit people believe in general (flat earth, for example) why do you think it would be easy to believe someone genuinely believes shit like this? I never, ever underestimate the potential stupidity of another person.

Daniel Reed
Daniel Reed

user come on. We hold some basic standards of intelligence here.
Have you been to non-engineer parties? Do you want us to have the same braindead conversations here?
Please. The only way to beat back the hordes of idiots is to call them out and hold conversations as if they weren't here. We're facing a lot of /pol/ pressure now but we have to try. Or just leave. You can leave.

Cameron Jenkins
Cameron Jenkins

well I do I suppose.
I couldn't believe when one of the smokers started giving a little "well maybe it's like that where he lives".
How fucking stupid do you have to be right?

Blake Torres
Blake Torres

muh /pol/

Lucas Jones
Lucas Jones

Land of the free
Corporations can test your piss and hair to see what you do on the weekends

Enjoy that "freedom" Americucks.

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