Kek the second airplane in a month just fell off the Russian aircraft """"carrier""""

Kek the second airplane in a month just fell off the Russian aircraft """"carrier"""".

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A FUCKING RAMP

just a ruse to conceal their underwater carrier, don't believe the propaganda

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Now they're talking about dismantle it in ministry
SAD

How old is that carrier? I'm sure Russia could make a nuclear powered one

Aren't the Chinese using an old Soviet carrier? And their new one they're building is basically just a copy of it?

>curved landing deck

30yo
Also csrriers are irrelevent

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Oh, it's that one...

Your picture is out of date. Britain has 1, soon to be 2, carriers which are bigger than the Chinese one.

>carriers are irrelevant
Sure lol

Who needs power projection

Russia is literally half the world by size.

>posting refueling
Why

1/6

>refueling an aircraft carrier with diesel
why

I think they are refueling coal

What they supposedly refuel it with is only technically diesel, but effectively it is heavy, black oil. Just a step above sludge.

>same carrier
Nope

>copy
Nope

Britain has 0 carriers in service, of which neither carry more aircraft or displace more tons that the Liaoning.

>Liaoning - 58,600 – 67,500-tonnes, max
>Queen Elizabeth - 70,600 tonnes (69,500 long tons; 77,800 short tons

Hmmmmmm.

ffs Russia.

At least do it like we do, just dock it.

putputputputputputputputputputputput

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toot toot :3

The american redneck can only dream of rolling so much coal.

>can only carry helis

Tecnically we have two then. Idk how are the procedures to be considered "carrier".

We've all sailed through storms just like Steamboat Willie, but this time we actually might drown. Besides cash in my pockets and girls I think are pretty, there's four things I need before I go down

I'm sayin,
Pack a couple bowls for my boys tonight, and give me the chance to kiss my bike goodbye, give all my records to all my best friends, and tell mom I'm sorry I drove her insane.
So wet your lips dear, and sing like the ships going down. We've been here before and we came out laughing, but this time I think we actually might drown.

I've been from private school polos to sweet jail of Canada, and slept on the most random couches and floors. I'm a spoiled yuppie punk and maybe thats not all I'm after, but I've seen things people pay calendars for.

I would say piece another heatstick but god I'm just tired. And all my friends say this cartoon's life expired. Some of them ran off chasing corporate grins, and some of them left me for oxycotton.

So whats the point dear, to build up what only breaks down. I'm leaving just as mixed up as when I got here. They'll find me in Morro Bay floating face down.

Sure, you can laugh about it, but it's the first time Russia uses aircraft carriers in a real battle.

>>same carrier
Almost yes. It was under construction in Ukraine at the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union, independednt Ukraine had neither the money nor the interest in finishing it, so they sold the uncompleted carrier to the Chinese who then completed it.

>Britain has 0 carriers in service, of which neither carry more aircraft or displace more tons that the Liaoning.
please be bait

is naval battle a meme or still a valid concept

This.

yes and no.

You still need boats to carry troups and equipements, to carry planes and to carry missiles.

Though dreadnought canon fight is a thing of the past.

I wanted to believe those were good because we have several.

youtube.com/watch?v=frOqRHbfX5o

This is belorusian

What's the difference between the S-300 and 400?

100 times more memein', 400 times the bleeedin'

Makes sense.

>They will have a displacement of 65,000 tonnes on delivery, but the design allows for this to reach over 70,000 tonnes as the ship is upgraded through its lifetime.[5]

Why are you trying to lie to me?

>almost yes
In general design the unfinished hull was similar. But the reconstructed Liaoning is significantly different. Just compare to the two designs on wikipedia. The Liaoning has no giant missiles, an extended hangar, a modified flight deck, and redesigned engine room, and a new radar tower.

The 001A is a design based upon this one that completely removes the old unused missile space on the Liaoning, changes the mast completely, and expands the hangar.

>please be bait
The Elizabeth won't be launched until late 2017 at the earliest. Furthermore, the Liaoning carries 48 aircraft whils Elizabeth carries 40.

Kill yourselves

>chinks have to rely on some refitted old soviet ship

Can't make this shit up lmao

How many carriers does Britain have in service?

Why is Invincible such a qt.

>Furthermore, the Liaoning carries 48 aircraft whils Elizabeth carries 40

Since we're being pedantic here, the Queen Elizabeth's full capacity is 50 aircraft (pic related). You shouldn't compare full capacity to optimal capacity. Compare apples with apples.

Britain's unfinished aircraft carrier >>>> China's old and busted soviet bodged effort

So essentially the same?

Pretty confident a F-22 with no weapons is worse than a Mig-21 with a gun.

>just fell off
Maybe they jumped to avoid the fire

>britain
>superpower
pick one

> power projection
> with aircraft carriers

Aircraft carriers only exist because of navies' Freudian complexes. No modern aircraft carrier can survive a saturation attack, they are a waste of money.

Give me a submarine-based navy with some amphibious assault vessels and keep your expensive aircraft carriers.

Don't you kill their hopes. Let them try and raise again.

Let's see your amphibious assault vessels land without air superiority.

>So essentially the same?

Yeah, in terms of aircraft capacity. Although, personally, I'd rather have the 5th gen fighter-bombers which will be able to launch the best missiles around than some Su-33 derivatives

I'd also rather have the 19,000km range (compared to 7000km), the S1850M + Artisan 3D combo, and the 679 crew (compared to 1960 crew for Liaoning)

Etc

>a fucking ramp

Let's see ours....oh right...

lmao, sail all the way to the Med without practicing deck landings like white countries do when sailing and then be surprised when this happens.

NO
it produces too many memes.
Sup Forums must help fund it

make memes great again

Ah yes, the Russian stealth technology at its work

Get a Kickstarter going and I'll contribute £20 if the pledge rewards are decent

There were serious concerns Kuznetsov won't make it to the Mediterranean, the fact that it did is already a miracle itself. 2 aircraft crashed? Who cares, that's not as bad as we expected anyway.

oh god russia this is why i love you

Basically this

Japan has four helicopter carriers, two Hyuga-class and and two Izumo-class (of which only one has been commissioned, the other has been launched but not commissioned).

Then what did you expect to happen, for it to sink?

No, just broke down and get towed back to Russia. There was a tugboat in escort for a reason.

Didn't you send a few nuclear subs to the Mediterranean as well?

You've got to send at least one nuclear sub with an aircraft carrier otherwise you may as well commit sudoku before leaving port

Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if they had a few Kilos dicking around as well.

Can your western homogay aircraft carriers block out the sun in small nations?
didn't think so

In actual fact, QE's unofficial capacity is 72 aircraft, although the configuration of aircraft on-board and caveats for that is unknown as documentation for this number is extremely scarce, practically nonexistent.

I only know two sources that have stated this, Jane's Fighting Ships and Peter Roberts from RUSI.

how fucking autistic does one have to be to even waste a single thought about shit like this?

I swear, military guys are the biggest bunch of fags

Seriously? Can you post one of the sources?

They're not falling off, those planes are 6th gen multirole fighters so they can dive too.

Dumb comment

Why are carriers vulnerable, but not amphibious assault ships when the amphibious assault ships are going to be far closer to shore, (thus more vulnerable) order in to deploy their loads?

IDK about you but I'm pretty damn autistic

"welcome to Sup Forums"

*punches in face*

they are both equally vulnerable to missiles. The difference is that aircraft carriers cost Billions of dollars to build.

Dumb comment

Is this ammunition just visible lying at the edge of the back of this carrier?

If it's ammo it can propably be thrown over the side in case of attack. Could be liferaft capsules as well.

2:26. You can ignore his whining opinion about it not being be CTOL, but the 72 number is factual and he's a very creditable source (give him a Google and check some of his writing and RUSI in general).

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You know that wasn't my point, I was asking him why one is vulnerable and one is not.

A carrier is not vulnerable if it has sufficient escorts and a sound mind commanding it.

lols

Should have gone CATOBAR.
We literally made a plane for carriers.

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Both C and B are made for carriers.

Thanks! Very interesting.

>We literally made a plane for carriers.

F-35C is made for a particular subset of carriers

Nuclear battleship and 2 cruisers

>Russia has the only battleships left in service of any modern navy
Is this good or bad?

W-we have shittons of rocket cruisers

>russian navy

Well if you're fighting an enemy with no air force or the battleship is loaded with a lot anti-air defences, then it could still be useful I suppose.

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Still more impressive than the Polish navy.

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Every carrier have firetrucks/cars aboard

Does australia even have military?

What battle? What war are you in that needs aircraft carriers?

But not every aircraft carrier smokes like old coal miner

6x pic and 16x kinzhals