It's taken me a while, but I think I understand why Trump is so popular in Sup Forums. The population of Sup Forums is largely comprised of young, teenaged, white, suburban, males living in privileged middle-class households. In this social milieu, conformity is a valued survival trait. The ability to look and sound like everyone else is how a young man keeps his place in the social hierarchy. However, what sets the young men in Sup Forums apart is that they spend a significant amount of time online where they can be anonymous. Why? Because, by and large, they are not able to "blend in," not able to pass for "normal," and as a result they have spent most of their short lives near the bottom of what they regard as the most important yardstick for social importance.
One need only look at the savage bullying, the toxic displays of what teenaged boys regard as masculinity, and the desperate attempts to look dominant -- but which are really just domineering -- by young men whose ideas about what a "man" is come from comic books and Hollywood action movies.
Donald Trump epitomizes what the young men of Sup Forums regard as dominant: loud, bombastic, rude, threatening, crass, and obsessed with material concerns about wealth and power. And the narrative he presents of an uncouth outsider smashing down the walls of snobby intellectuals is one we've seen used by everyone from Adolf Hitler to Pol Pot with great effect, leading to the same sort of fierce tribalism and xenophobia displayed in Sup Forums.
I'll be interested to see whether this vanishes off the bottom of Sup Forums unremarked or gets savaged and mocked; both seem equally likely.
Interesting narrative. Do you actually believe that Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton represent the total range of all possible socio-economic politics?
Gabriel Sullivan
As opposed to leeching, welfare supported, gub'ment handouts people of color who expect to be given everything from a society built up by white males, while earning nothing and simultaneously destroying this same society created by white males.
Carter Nelson
No it's just that trump is a racist biggot and so is /b. I live in a german town full of privileged middle-class white households, including mine, and everyone here hates trump. It's just that there's lots of retards in america and they all concentrate here in Sup Forums/b
/b is a shithole and it always will be
Tyler Morales
>toxic masculinity Trashed
Jason Howard
It's because he is so popular across all groups. Get over yourself you self-taught pretentious cunt
Cooper Stewart
>trump is a racist
How so?
John Murphy
Hey OP, your High-School level Grammar and Social Sciences is showing. Stay in school kid.
Wyatt Stewart
Sup Forums always picks the anti-establishment candidate which is why whoever Sup Forums wants to win the presidency always loses. The establishment is the majority and the majority wins.
Christopher Hughes
China
Sebastian Bennett
Faggot ass OP doesn't know shit for shit.
Aaron Bennett
A German of all people should be capable of seeing the danger in dismissing the power of angry young men who have been convinced they're being disenfranchised. The same kind of bullying behaviour you see here in Sup Forums can be transformed into something like the Sturmabteilung by an opportunist willing to stoke the fires of hatred.
Robert Bailey
Not true, I may be white but I am working class. Everything I own I worked for. Pay check to paycheck. The thing you fail to realize is the poorest cities have been ran by democrats. Welfare keeps people reliant on the government. Keeps people poor. Look at the country now. When have you seen this much public discourse?
Angel Davis
wrong. Sup Forums is contrarian. if trump is whatever the media and normies think is a crazy pic, Sup Forums would support that person to spite them.
it's just fun watching the shit flinging and you'll get more of that if trump was nominated. now it's man vs woman and he's going to make her cry.
Liam Garcia
Right. You jack offs love you some Merkel and some Syrian homicide and mixed in with some North African rape of your mothers and daughters. Fucking Krauts are the laughingstock of the world.
Thomas Turner
He may be intimidating, brash and politically incorrect but he's not wrong. >Trump 2016
Leo Myers
Can you see the irony in responding to a comment about bullying and social conformity by trying to bully by using social conformity? The subtext of what you're saying is, "You think you're better than me because you sound smart and use proper English, but the fact that you can't see me or prove your educational qualifications means I can accuse you of being lower than me in the social hierarchy!"
Dylan Walker
Fair enough. I'd add that many, if not most Sup Forums have some issues with self-esteem and recognize in Trump the same traits that make them social outcasts in the accountable world. So in legitimizing Trump, they legitimize their own sociopathic traits.
Anthony Morgan
Trump = Said a few things some over sensitive people thought were mean Hillary = Benghazi, E-mail scandal #1, E-mail scandal #2 (with DNC),Completely above the law, screwed over Bernie Sanders in a rigged debate, got somebody cleared from punishment for raping a child, claims to be for women's rights but accepts money from The Middle East where women are treated less than second class citizens, claims to be for gay rights but accepts money from the middle east where gays are brutally murdered, is a wall street puppet (meaning what she says isn't necessarily how she feels) Panders uncontrollably, changes her opinion constantly, LIES THROUGH HER TEETH... etc.
David Morris
Spurious.
Aiden Johnson
You are completely and intentionally giving Trump's transgressions a pass. So watch this (John Oliver). If you can't laugh at it, you really need to reassess your views. "But the problem is, even when you can demonstrably prove Trump to be wrong, it somehow never seems to matter." youtu.be/DnpO_RTSNmQ
Xavier Mitchell
>Trump is the Republican nominee >Trump was always his party's frontrunner >Decimated 17 other candidates >Did all this by appealing to white, middle class non-voting teenage boys.
I don't think you understand how elections work
Kayden Bell
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Robert Perez
Fuck you OP, I am from El Salvador living in east los angeles and I am voting for Trump!!!
The king of kings
Dominic Mitchell
This is old news that you edgy liberals love to post every time you're presented with facts as to why Trump is the better choice.
You're all forgetting everything Hillary is accused of/being currently investigated for.
I dare anyone to watch this video and not say their opinion of Trump has risen.
I'm on the opposite side of the aisle on most issues than Trump, but it is impossible to deny how right he has been and is about some things.
Wyatt Morales
Trump University: >Retarded consumers paid tens of thousands to attend motivational seminars >Thought it was a 'university' when university accrediation is public information >Trump is being blamed for the ignorance of the consumer.
Hillary Clinton: >Trusted with the implementation of the country's foreign policy >Took bribes from middle eastern governments while SoS >Grossly mishandled the situation in Libya resulting in the deaths of four Americans, including an ambassador. >Rigged democratic primaries and debates so that she would win >Probably outright rigged the election itself
Because Trump is such an evil person you guys
Ian Hall
Indeed. Add this to the fact that there were craigslists ads of her campaign hiring actors to appear at the DNC, and that they were drowning out the noise of anybody who didn't agree with what she was saying with white noise machines.
It's a kind of situational sociopathy, I think, because while Sup Forums has always been pretty ugly, it hasn't had this kind of hysterical xenophobia before now. I used to 'out' myself in Sup Forums occasionally and was always welcomed as a visiting minor celebrity. Recently, however, any time I mention anything about my life I'm told that I'm a liar, the presumption being that everyone in Sup Forums is a white, teenaged, middle class boy. When I've outed myself to prove who I am, the reaction is getting wolfpacked by swarms of angry white boys telling me how unimportant I am and then vandalizing my Wikipedia page. This has only started in the last year or so, and has been gradually getting worse. Some change has occured either in the demographics of Sup Forums or the narratives used by the young white males who make up its user base.
Connor Sanchez
Dont forget white water
Cameron Campbell
b-b-b-b-but he had some failed businesses too! I love when people try to bring that up. Like yeah, 4 out of his 500 businesses went bankrupt. an over 99% success rate
Asher Kelly
Not that user, but fellow edgy liberal
I hate Clinton more than I hate Trump, personally. This (among other) videos is part of the reason why --> Le liberal media bias xDDD Bunch of smarmy effete neo-liberal faggots. Make me ashamed to be gay.
Whitewater, Benghazi, mysterious deaths, destroying women who her husband raped, Clinton Foundation Slush Fund, Saudi financing, losing 6 BILLION dollars at State Department, etc etc etc
Joseph Reyes
>4 out of his 500 >99%
Brody Hernandez
And how she made $99,000 in a year over some cattle in the 1970s
>99% of 500 is 495 >if 4 out 500 businesses failed, it would be... 99.2%
dude....
Gavin Lewis
>posts the moran pic
>he's the actual moron
Kayden Lewis
Yeah, somebody can't math.
Christian Ward
implying you are intelligent enough to make this assessment. new shill packs came out today I see.
Cooper Morales
it's me again I could have written down all the answers I got before I even refreshed the page
>how is trump racist shut up this argument has been had and even if I brought up valid points it is unlikely that you'll be convinced
>syrian refugees fuck your women hehe So? In contrary to you I'm not a fucking Nazi so I don't care about the chromosome shuffle. Besides, there will always be some retarded KKK families that "keep the white race alive" by not intercoursing with foreigners.
>merkel can suck some cock kek I think Merkel is a good politician and does a great job, even if she makes some mistakes, so did all other leaders in all other countries before
>you as a German should not underestimate the power of the dark side I don't, I was scared of Trump and his supporters when all this shit began but now I'm just kinda like, you know, if you guys want Trump then you probably deserve him.
And don't get me wrong, hillary is a criminal bitch and I hate her almost equally as much. But I would rather have feminazi hydra than blonde Hitler. The candidates this year should just be rerolled
Joseph Adams
Well. That doesn't sound like bait at all...
Sebastian Gutierrez
Sick burn breh...
Hunter Stewart
You still can't prove that Trump is racist. Obama banned immigration before but he's not racist, right?
Illegals and Muslims are not a race. Further, It's completely in the law to do so, especially given the fact that they can't seem to stop blowing people up...
Joshua Sanchez
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Sebastian Carter
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Eli Reyes
Spoiler Alert:
Barack Obama now holds the record for most people deported of any president in American history
Too late, the "liberal" president is already doing it.
Adrian Johnson
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Dominic Hughes
Trump University: >Retarded consumers paid tens of thousands to attend motivational seminars >Thought it was a 'university' when university accrediation is public information >Trump is being blamed for the ignorance of the consumer.
Actually offered speeches from real businessmen
Implying "real" universities don't charge thousands of dollars and teach absolutely nothing of worth.
Daniel Smith
uhhh.. someone hasnt seen trump talk about mexicans
Zachary Ramirez
Even if Trump deported people, it'd be illegals. NOT immigrants. The keyword of course being illegal. Do you have a source for this? I'd love to bring this up next some some Libtard tries to tell me that "Le Drumpf is a racist11!!! "
Blake Bailey
That's actually impressive.
When was that interview made ?
Connor Gutierrez
>shut up this argument has been had and even if I brought up valid points it is unlikely that you'll be convinced
Present me some evidence that Trump is a racist. Protip: you can't because he's not a racist.
>In contrary to you I'm not a fucking Nazi so I don't care about the chromosome shuffle. Besides, there will always be some retarded KKK families that "keep the white race alive" by not intercoursing with foreigners.
You do realize that if we bring in refugees like Germany did, we'll have several attacks a month like we've seen in Europe? I would much rather be called a racist and deny those people than to sacrifice the lives of other innocent people, which cannot be justified.
>I think Merkel is a good politician and does a great job, even if she makes some mistakes, so did all other leaders in all other countries before
Being a guilt-ridden German and allowing nearly a million migrants into your country, who have no desire to assimilate and attack the native populations, all as an exercise in political correctness is not a sign of a good leader.
Jose Martinez
Uhhh. I actually have. He says nothing but the truth. Anything that you probably think he's racist for... for example, that he thinks all Mexicans are murderers or something, is a result of CNN twisting his words to make him look bad.
He's exceeded his predecessor by 23% more deportations.
my "obama's legacy" oc as an actual progressive
Eli Diaz
>Illegals and Muslims are not a race I didn't nearly imply that anywhere ever >they can't seem to stop blowing people up even if you shot every muslim and illegal in the country this would keep going on at a possibly even higher rate
Chase Williams
trump threads on Sup Forums are from Sup Forums retards looking for support under every rock the majority of Sup Forums doesn't care about politics
Cameron Butler
>Implying "real" universities don't charge thousands of dollars and teach absolutely nothing of worth
That's really only the case with like SJW courses and the like. Many STEM and business programs at many universities do teach valuable, marketable skills.
Dominic Adams
>"real" universities don't charge thousands of dollars and teach absolutely nothing of worth You realize you're quoting everyone from Stalin to Pol Pot, right? This narrative that people with actual qualifications and expert training are big dummies and just possessing an opinion makes you their equal is both dangerous and completely incorrect. But it's an excellent way of using the Dunning-Kruger effect to hide all criticism of crass, pandering populism.
Caleb Anderson
I'm from Sup Forums and I can confirm this is accurate, lol.
Andrew Evans
Yeah that moon thing we helped you with
No problem m8
Anthony Thompson
>even if you shot every muslim and illegal in the country this would keep going on at a possibly even higher rate
You pretty much just proved my point as to why we need to figure things out before we keep shuttling in refugees...
Isaac Hughes
this is what trump supporters actually believe
i want off this ride
Noah Mitchell
Not that guy, but
Easton Davis
Bro, you put way too much fucking thought into this. There are two choices, it's a 50/50 shot. Who's to say it's not because it's a man versus a woman? Regardless, just because you favor one over the other doesn't mean you support them, it's picking the lesser of two evils.
Leo Phillips
Please convince me otherwise oh wise libcuck
Zachary Wilson
You say that, but have no evidence to prove me otherwise other than "ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!!". Typical liberal Hillary supporter.
William Robinson
Paid? To post on Sup Forums?
Hunter Gutierrez
That's cause that's exactly what he intends to say
The Dems have been doing this since the internet began.
Robert Cox
No I just like how he is going to handle the countries problems directly instead of beating around the bush
Nicholas Gutierrez
Lolwut.. what part of his comment are you even replying to?
Juan Brooks
>libcuck If we built a device into every computer which caused it to detonate like a bomb any time the word "cuck" was used, the average IQ of suburban USA would jump 15 points overnight and might even approach the triple digits.
Angel Torres
no u etc, good job
Connor Watson
I tried to dig up the wikipedia article as a quick source but apparently in the american translation all that shit is taken out so sorry I can't help you on the racism thing, I guess you'll just need to hear some of his speeches.
Also you shouldn't be worried about immigrants bombing your country, because your gun keeps you safe from such things, right? And it's retarded to let innocent syrians die in their war to safe innocent americans from some retarded terrorists that turn up either ways.
It's called helping, but america is greatest country and doesn't need to be nice to others, right?
I was saying that terrorism can't be stopped by excluding muslims, it would just keep the honest and lawful muslims out.
Jace Richardson
>shut up this argument has been had and even if I brought up valid points it is unlikely that you'll be convinced
>It-It's n-not like I don't have any argument that would be objective enough t-to sway you.
>In contrary to you I'm not a fucking Nazi so I don't care about the chromosome shuffle
The problem isn't the shuffle in itself, the problem is that it's gonna lead to a divided population by a replacement of your culture and way of life. Do you think Jamal's son will grow to be like his peaceful mother, or his culturally warmongering father ? Apples don't fall far from the tree, user, that's why you don't plant rotten seeds.
>I think Merkel is a good politician and does a great job, even if she makes some mistakes, so did all other leaders in all other countries before
I'm French, and her european decisions led to the death of more than a hundred of my countrymen, and likely more. You don't have any moral high ground for being inclusive when she didn't even look at what came to our countries.
> if you guys want Trump then you probably deserve him Good. At least you're opposing no one, not even the migrants that are literally raping your women nor the people that wanna fix that.
Blake Watson
>Trump = Said a few things some over sensitive people thought were mean
I don't have to say anything, your lack of speech says everything.
following the same path as trump, avoiding any debate you can't meme yourself out of
Brayden Roberts
This
Logan James
or because hillary sucks
Colton Wood
>9 killed by Syrian refugee out of over 1,000,000 taken in
>homicide
This is why no one takes you seriously
Kevin Martin
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Thomas Ortiz
Lack of speech?
The only person with a lack of speech is you, because once again, you can't provide me with any sort of debate other than "le Drumpf is literally hitler" or some stupid libcuck rhetoric like that.
Meanwhile, I presented you with facts, ALL of which can be backed up, about why Hillary Clinton is a poor choice.
Joseph Baker
>Augh you expect me to actually explain my viewpoint?! Hi Carl
Samuel Fisher
Because people on Sup Forums are less inclined to listen to only Hillary funded news sources that make trump out to be the monster that he most certainly is not.
Jayden Walker
Hillary's public policy is the same as her Husbands and Obama. Proven winners. Proven superior historical results. If
you have any doubt, just ask your 401k. And don't be Trump/Putin 2016. Don't be a tr.ai.tor
This Democratic convention has been an unmitigated disaster for the GOP. Very well produced. Unifying. Patriotic. Bravo
Nolan Howard
Across all groups of poor white males? LOL
Women don't like him, minorities really don't like him, the educated white collar families don't like him..
What are all these groups you're talking about?
Nathaniel Hughes
"Temporary" ban on all Muslims
Mexico is sending us their rapists
Carson Cooper
I have met people with bachelors degrees who could barely write, or understand anything in their job. But at least they know the "correct" things to believe politically!
Aiden Nguyen
Trump said he could kill a man and you would still vote for him.
I don't know what else to say. Enjoy being used, just like every other voter in history.
Jeremiah King
How's he racist and a bigot?! Ctfu. Stop just following what people say.
Ryan Hill
By this logic FDR was also a racist.
Carson White
the thing is that this is /b and most people here are idiots don't try to talk politics here, it won't end well
Easton Richardson
underrated post
Oliver Young
i didn't click on the link because it's unknown
but that picture is really dumb. like anyone can singlehandedly rescue women in arab countries. you're an idiot and you are a solid trump supporter, always have been and maybe a paid troll.
Cameron Johnson
>blaming Merkel for death of hundreds of countrymen >it's not like my country was swamped with Muslims before the refugee crisis, mainly from Algeria >it's not like my intelligence organizations botched protecting the people >I'm serious, I swear
That's the frenchie way. You're never responsible for anything, you never do your own fucking job, but you're quick to join the side of the "victors" in a conflict so you can feel like you actually matter.
Luis Thomas
My sister's daughter, 10, is completely non-verbal, never looks at you, responds to questions, she can't eat by herself, or care for herself in any way She can walk, move around, to look at her she seems normal, she hums all the time, it's like her body is here but her mind is in another world When my parent's watch her, I help out a lot, I live at home, she loves my bed, it's a '70's waterbed, so we spend a lot of time together. Probably the best thing about her is she will never tell anyone anything, ever, she has been the greatest gift in my life, and that is why I am voting Hillary 2016! Are you ready for HER?
Adrian Mitchell
Obama did the same thing, but you'd never call him a racist, right? How many more people need to get blown up before your thick skull can process the fact that we need to do something about radical Islam, and that they're not all peaceful people. Mexico is sending some criminals over. You're leaving out the part where he said many of them were good people. The bottom line is, areas like California closer to the border have lots of crime. Now, I could have easily just said that Muslims and Illegals are not a race, therefore Trump can't be racist, but I've went further and given you actual legitimate arguments. It's one thing to not like him, but Stop saying Trump is racist when you have nothing to back it up.
Luke Torres
People support trump on Sup Forums for the same reason they supported Ron Paul in past years. To be edgy and because they are joke candidates
Liam Rogers
Muslim is not a race
Mexico do force their criminals across the border, your favourite candidate Hillary has said this herself Many of them are rapists
>Trump made a hyperbolic statement! hes like totes Hitler! Pipe down faggot
Ayden Lewis
Everyone knows they're only racist if they're republican.
