/daily/ - New Sincerity Edition

Postmodernism has run its course.

The point of these threads is to encourage people to look for new and interesting music. We do this by listening to and ideally discussing albums we've never heard before. Many of us already listen to new music daily, these people are in it to venture "out of their comfort zone" by listening to albums they otherwise wouldn't have, or just to have a good time.

neverendingchartrendering.org/
>come here to make charts

plug.dj/sdc-room-3-the-sequel
>come here to endlessly circlejerk over meme videos and maybe sometimes hopefully music

dailymu-sic.weebly.com/
>come here for op pics, charts, listenalongs, misc. stuff

Previously, on /daily/:

Other urls found in this thread:

i.slacktunes.tech/Fabiano-Orchestra-Butterfly-Island-FLAC/
i.slacktunes.tech/Mark-III-Marvin-Whoremonger-FLAC/
i.slacktunes.tech/Sony-Enang-Don-t-Stop-That-Music-FLAC/
i.slacktunes.tech/Stone-Alliance-Stone-Alliance-FLAC/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Sincerity
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-irony
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-postmodernism
pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22870-bad-timing/?mbid=social_twitter
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

tfw you will never pursue anything for the sake of honesty

tfw not sure if motivations for anything other than eating and fucking are actually sincere or just fulfilling societal expectations, living up to what you identify with, ideology, false consciousness, memes, bla bla etc

Is it contemporarism now?

Why does fish keep making these threads, they tend to be bad......
(Jk fish luv u to death)

plug tho

screw man tapes

>tapes screw man

really makes you think..............................

this album? pretty great if you ask me.

Why would I ask you though?

in the event that you wanted to hear an honest, anonymous opinion on Gryphon's self-titled record, is why.

can i get an opinion on... benis? :D

did somebody say benis?

Wow that sounds p cool, i guess I'll give it a try just for flaming you, you seem cool :)

hope ya like oboes!

I've been laughing for eighteen years at this photograph.

Could you say that you really, really like this image?

/meme/

it's real shitposting hours rn

more like: nuisance? err, it is!

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u mean the OP? Because I tend to just go off what other people have been talking about in the previous threads.

Or the content of the threads because I think the few threads I've made in the past week have been okay. This one has high potential to be terrible though who knows!!

Emo sux

once again calling for pom to up


Fabiano Orchestra - Butterfly Island
Mark III - Marvin Whoremonger
Stone Alliance - Stone Alliance
Sony Enang - Don't Stop the Music

lol I was memeing but nonetheless, I always appreciate the mini-reviews of the 1000 albums you've listened to :)

Letta Mbulu - In the Music the Village Never Ends (1983)
>boogie, southern african music

Some softer tracks that owe more to pop soul and '80s R&B drag the album down, but the disco tracks are pretty much out of this world. Totally plastic, which occasionally works against it, but funky, danceable, and super fun. The synth lines are catchy, the four to the floor drum machine, as synthetic as it might be, works really well, and Mbulu is a wonderfully charismatic vocalist. Real cool.

3.0-

Manteca - Ritmo y Sabor (1978)
>latin funk

Really minimalist for funk music. Most tracks are just fast-paced, hyper drum beats with some funky basslines played over them. These tracks are fucking incredible. "Afro Funky" is so cool it's unreal, the bassist even manages to sneak in the riffs to "Day Tripper" and "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" without losing his place as the coolest damn bassist in music history. The tracks that bring in the piano or any other instruments are a bit less great, and incredibly sterile by comparison, but the best tracks on this thing are fucking incredible.

3.0

>You will never have comfy conversations with DFW about Star Wars

Music for this feel?

im so FUCKING high
music for this feel

Eleanore Mills - This Is Eleanore Mills (1974)
>soul

Mills is a phenomenal vocalist, and the last track is really spectacular. My major problem with this album is that a lot of it falls into the very string-heavy category of soul, which I've never really gotten that into. A lot of tracks also sound very familiar to each other, with similar chord progressions and similar melodies. Mills' voice really is incredible, able to carry even the most derivative tracks with ease, and the more horn-heavy, funkier tracks are really great. Spotty but altogether solid.

2.5+

dopethrone and/or dopesmoker and/or sleep's holy mountain

and man fucking drunk drivers / killer whales is a really great song

I am SO glad you gave Estrelando Embaixador a listen. It's been one of my favorite albums out there, period. Give me a moment to get uploads for:

Fabiano Orchestra - Butterfly Island
Mark III - Marvin Whoremonger
Stone Alliance - Stone Alliance
Sony Enang - Don't Stop the Music

>new sincerety/"post-irony"/post-post-modernity
these are not things that exist, stop trying to will them into existence.

Pomo forever
also what have I missed since last posting (about 4 days)

lol i'm FUCKINg drunk
music for this feel

it's great! thanks for turning me onto it. and thank you so much!

Good morning /daily/!

Flying to Turkey for 2 weeks tomorrow, so gotta download a shit ton of music and wash all the clothes.

What are yall up to this Sunday?

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> (OP)
>>new sincerety/"post-irony"/post-post-modernity
>these are not things that exist, stop trying to will them into existence.
>Pomo forever
i read that as porno forever
same desu

IM a fucking mess

did you know that a bundle of sticks is called a faggot

did you know that the faggot was the symbol of fascism

are YOU a fascist?

new sincerity has been around for a long time. Don't fall in love with dat cage brah

i.slacktunes.tech/Fabiano-Orchestra-Butterfly-Island-FLAC/

i.slacktunes.tech/Mark-III-Marvin-Whoremonger-FLAC/

i.slacktunes.tech/Sony-Enang-Don-t-Stop-That-Music-FLAC/

i.slacktunes.tech/Stone-Alliance-Stone-Alliance-FLAC/

It's not Sunday in the West Coast of the US yet, but come tomorrow we're doing this huge event at my work, getting a new line of clothes in, etc.

Enjoy Turkey! Get some listening done on the plane or something. I highly recommend the albums I'm posting above.

same

no but im a fucking faggot

are you fucking gay dude

Ay, do you have that rare grooves chart that Nat's working on? Since I just finished his drone, I figured I could start it

Banda Black Rio - Maria Fumaça (1977)
>funk, samba-soul

Tight, well-performed funk that falls into background music territory a lot. This is a lot like a Brazilian Tower of Power, technically immaculate but lacking the feel and grooves that makes funk music funk music. The samba and the jazz the band hints at on a few tracks are both woefully underused, but the funk is decent enough to keep the album rolling. The tightness and precision of the drums is a big standout, as are the fat bass lines. Worth a listen if you're big into funk.

2.5-

oh man, thank you so so much!

yeah I like the boipucci no memes

I'm excited to see what you think of Carlos, ERASMO.... I really want to see it become /daily/core

definitely checking it out tomorrow, looks awesome.

Spent all day drinking with my roommates, jamming out and playing Battlefield 1. I'm still kinda terrible at the drums but hey I'm improving!

Buuuut I feel like garbage now and I'm slowly getting a hangover at 11pm. Music for that feel?

listen to Strange Geometry!

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I'll add a couple for the ride, thanks!

Looks pretty comfy, I'll give it a spin!

it's total /comfy/-core. I own it on vinyl so it makes it a little less comfy than CD since you have to get up to switch sides but it's still very good.

Lol, maybe I'll save this for another day. Feeling more like something relaxing.

Diggin it so far, thanks dude!

have some alcohol but not enough to pass out music for this feel?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Sincerity
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-irony
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-postmodernism
>the new sincerity one even cites DFW
lmao u lose bro sry ;)

Hey, /daily/, (specifically Nat) y'all read this??:
pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22870-bad-timing/?mbid=social_twitter

jim out here

>have some alcohol but not enough to pass out music for this feel?
same, i'm at that point where im feelin juuuust right

logging off internet,

psueds the both of you
>implying all of these things are not just offshoots of post-modernism

post-modern more like post-mortem, because nothing can replace it because it has no ideals and anybody that claims to know their post-modernism is a fucking liar and therefore intellectual movements as we once understood them are dead.

we as a culture are suffering from genrewave, everybody wants to be a pioneer, nobody wants to read their shit

also fishe, actually read the DFW quote. He's theorizing a rebellion against post-modernism and mocking such a proposition, people who embrace "New Sincerity" buy into the shit that their culture shills without any irony, accepting whatever is shoveled there way by a team of 50 year old suits, they are the people at comic conventions, they are bronies

also
>Wikipedia

alright that's it it's not my favorite album anymore

Yo is everyone...
...else *also* drunkposting?

I would say u can't make DFW a meme
but it seems as if you have made DFW a meme

EaSiLy the best picture on the Sup Forums

Might do a new chart after/in addition to my BHM calendar. Most of it is honestly stuff I should've listened to ages ago.

Any suggestions? Anything I should replace?

Ping Existensil think that is how you spell it, rec for your tourney

Quick review bump before I head to bed.

OC - Word… Life

DITC was supposedly one of the greatest collectives in east coast hip-hop, boasting the likes of Big L, Lord Finesse, Showbiz & AG and randomly… Fat Joe. OC is one of the many members of the crew and his debut sounds pretty much exactly like the every other album coming out of the area at the time. That might speak more about the ridiculous consistency of hip-hop in ‘94 but Word.... Life is an album that doesn’t seem to stand out in any way.

The beats are quite simplistic and jazzy, with a bit of a darker edge than most. Pretty typical boom-bap, which is a style I dig. As for OC, he’s a great storyteller, flying through some really nice cuts with a sharp, tight flow. Problem is - he doesn’t really have a personality. He doesn’t have the ridiculousness of Big L or swagger of Lord Finesse. Instead, he just drones on in this bland monotone. That works well for a dude like Guru, who sounds pretty earnest - but OC just sounds like any other rapper.

He has the lyrics and the beats are solid - it just doesn’t sound like anything special. I kind of had the same issue with Diamond D, so I’m starting to think this group is held up by two/three greats.

An alright listen, but I’m kind of shocked it’s in RYM’s top 100 for the genre.

2.5/5

that is actually a pretty nice write-up, though. pitchfork can do decent stuff if they want.

bit l8 but this still exists, ask if you want thoughts
rec all those that won

Allison Crutchfield - Tourist in This Town (2017)
>indie pop

The sister of Waxahatchee makes music that's pretty much about the same as her sister's, both sound-wise and quality-wise. It's decent, middle-of-the-road indie pop, doesn't do anything amazing but it doesn't do anything bad. The opener is a killer track, as are a few of the other rocky tracks, but the synthy stuff grates on me, and the slower tracks come off like Julien Baker but without a shred of the sincerity. Decent enough.

2.0+

Code Orange - Forever (2017)
>metalcore, post-hardcore

I hope I'm not alone in thinking that this is kind of an embarassing record, mainly because of the vocals. The harsh and clean vocals are both /terrible/, the clean vocalist is so damn whiny and nasally and the harsh vocalist is just hard to listen to, spitting out some truly terrible lyrics. Musically it's just standard metalcore with some forays into generic alt-rock. I like the one track that straight-up embraces industrial metal, because it's the only really harsh thing here, but everything else is bland shit, and I hate how a lot of the tracks just stop dead in their tracks, it's a stupid sonic choice and it makes the album even worse than it already is.

0.5

Homeshake - Fresh Air (2017)
>hypnagogic pop, alternative R&B

I don't like this album, but I don't have much bad to say about it. It's a very middle-of-the-road album, it does nothing to offend but nothing to impress. This guy was Mac DeMarco's old guitarist, and the jangly guitar work on a couple tracks is nice, as is the production, generally, but I can't remember a single damn moment off this that was memorable. It's fourteen tracks of the same hazy R&B stuff, and Sagar's vocals are pretty dreadful. The vocals are the only truly bad thing, but everything about this is just so tedious and bland, I can't get into it at all.

0.5+

gaah

damn dude why didn't you like Eggstone

I mean, I don't dislike the album, I have no strong feelings either way, I found the songs to go on for a bit to long and end up outstaying their welcome, the singer's kinda Michael Buble croony thing he has going on wears a little on my patience as well

>I found the songs to go on for a bit to long
can understand
>the singer's kinda Michael Buble croony thing
don't understand but ok

Uh, close, how did you like my rec?

julius eastman - unjust malaise

Was surprised by it initially, did not expect it to be noise rock at all, have to admit I still don't know all that much about it, is it a DJ Mix or a compilation or a mix of both, it's probably a mix of both. Found the remixes to be worse overall than the actual tracks being remixed, but they aren't by any length bad. Felt tepid agreement to the whole thing.

Three hours, nice...

Yeah, it's both, comp with dj mixes of each song, but I can't find any other information on it either, it's not on discogs or rym :/
Oh, next rec: Placebo - Meds

I've heard that one before and forgotten to rate it, bringin back 16 year old me

actually before you take this rec, get back to me on how you feel about F#A# Infinity

Katharsis - VVorldvvithoutend

How would you rate it now?

then how about Stabscotch - Uncanny Valley ?

Isn't the record on the 8th column of the 2nd row the back cover of insignificance? Or am I missing something?

I think that Placebo is fun, the title track is a great pop song, I'd give it a 6 or a 7

Haven't heard Stabscotch

Why am I up at 5am arguing with things I'm not even knowledgeable about is this the fate of the fisho?

I'll conceed that I didn't really read into the DFW quote but disagree about a lot there. For example, a lot of what our culture "shills out" is 100% post-modern. Aren't people like me that adore entirely cynical shows like the Simpsons or Seinfeld guilty of the same thing. I think the application is for culture in general, not about a certain ideal.

Also idk about the notion that New Sincerity "doesn't exist" because I'm only about 100 pages into IJ rn but pic will probably be me in a month with just better music (though still applicable). It totally is just an off-shoot of post-modernism but doesn't the fact that people use the term at all and the fact that you generalize people under the umbrella of such a term will itself into existance by your very rejection of it? I would argue so, but you're for the most part right.

I probably sound dumb as hell talking about this and you'd be right.

>that pic but with better music
jesus christ its me...

I'm literally replaying Mother 2 and 3 with a friend, I have a blu-ray copy of It's Such a Beautiful Day and a Life Aquatic poster in my room and am currently reading IJ. I've literally never had a "starter pack" of anything apply to me so well even though they're all made a bit broad. Which is, in a way, sort of comforting for a reason I can't explain. I'm gonna start calling myself "Newly Sincere" if nothing else but to piss Tuco off.

im playing mother 2 right now, reading IJ, just watched synecdoche yesterday... shivers

Also, IJ's foreword makes references to Sufjan and 69 Love Songs. Not really in reflecting the ideals of DFW but more in scope, what with Sufjan's 50 States project (which, at the time, wasn't yet canceled) and the scope of the Magnetic Fields album. However, I think 69 Love Songs would be a great example of a musical equivalent of new sincerity (if such a thing could ever exist). Of course it uses a lot of ironic-sounding language and pokes fun at/parodies several genres, but at the same time feels like a sincere tribute to every aspect of love songs. And reading the interview from the vinyl liner notes only further emphasizes this when Merritt talks about his major influences being those who made what we think of as sappy radio love songs. It's a love song to love songs.

Maybe I should actually finish the book instead of pretending to know something I know dick about though. I'm 100 pages in and plan to do 50 a day, so maybe I'll actually finish it soon-ish? Probably not. I imagine I'll probably give up or slow down but make sure to make fun of me if in a month I don't have this thing read. Sorry if there were terrible misspellings in this but I typed it all out mobile.

Right? Mother 3 is just as good but the only way to play is via fan-translations. Would definitly rec after Mother 2, as Mother 3 makes plenty references to Mother 2. I will legit cop a switch if they announce Mother 3 for it honestly.

>everyone on daily read a the first handful of pages of IJ
>memy discussions on le new sincerity and DFW memes pop up like mushrooms after rain
oh fuck no its going to be like a shitty lit thread except with less people to call out all the uninformed pseuding (with more uninformed pseuding) isnt it

don't get coup'd

don't pass out its a waste

don't recc this cause its bad

thats what i did a week ago exactly stop reenacting my life thanks

It's what every single other person on this website does anyway, the trick is not to admit it or pretend you're someone else as soon as someone calls you out (harder when u trip)

also isn't that just the "first day lurking Sup Forums, /letterboxd/, Sup Forums and /lit/" memechart renamed

tfw have to do things but dun want to

This is going to get real cyclical and confusing and I'M going to sound dumb

>A lot of what our culture "shills out" is 100% post-modern. Aren't people like me that adore entirely cynical shows like the Simpsons or Seinfeld guilty of the same thing.
I mean, it's not a crime to enjoy something that is entirely cynical, nor is it a crime to enjoy something that is entirely insincere, the art commits no crime.
The problem arises when people "enjoy" things ironically, and thus it becomes a competition to seem the smartest for appreciating more crap things ironically. New Sincerety is inherently absurd, because it comes across as people competing to be more sincere than others in their love for a given cultural artifact (assuming they aren't autistic, in a way they are the Ubermensch for us all).
>I think the application is for culture in general, not about a certain ideal.
this is true, post-modernism has no ideals...
>Also idk about the notion that New Sincerity "doesn't exist"... It's totally is just an off-shoot of post-modernism but doesn't the fact that people use the term at all and the fact that you generalize people under the umbrella of such a term will itself into existance by your very rejection of it?
yes that is true, but why can't the term post-modernism apply in this case. Ideas change, I don't think that we should completely disregard the whole pomo thing because nobody can even define or characterize it. They only have vague ideas about what the narratives that they should be questioning, questioning the questioning of ideas is a bit dumb.
>I probably sound dumb as hell talking about this and you'd be right.
I can guarantee you I probably out-dumbed you then

> nor is it a crime to enjoy something that is entirely insincere
I meant sincere I hope that comes across

does anyone else feel like they have to make a sort of mental schedule of what kind of art to consume at a given moment because when i don't i end up just kind of sitting there unsure of my place in the world

(y)

Hmm you made this starter pack? Some of it's misleading IMO. Needs Knausgaard's My Struggle...definitely over IJ. Sun Kil Moon, whether you like it or not is the ultimate recent example.

try and outdumb me nerds bet u cant

you're only somewhat dumb, lad

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this, Knausgaard is so sincere man

Ive been recently trying to decide whenever its better to structure my days and make sure to spend them productively both with work and art/leasure or whenever its better to just go in free flow and do what comes up and what I feel like.

Honestly I can't tell which is better rn, both have their pluses and minuses. Some degree of structure is important cause like you said ennui just forces its dick in if you let your guard down too much but overdoing it isnt great either. I get desensitized and feel constrained from constant productivity but with little of it I feel like im going to go crazy.