do you think humanity would invent electrical wiring and shit in order to figure out how to get the CD player to work
Joshua Parker
4'33"
That first track is nice, second one not so much. They're at their best when they're doing small minimalist chamber music without too much going on. I used Music for Egon Schiele as study music all the time when I was in college, don't really see any value in them beyond that when actual chamber music is so much more rewarding. I'd rather have just the Cavatina from Beethoven String Quartet 13 than everything by Rachel's.
Aaron Phillips
Am I allowed to believe that Fidelio is the best opera ever written?
Kevin Evans
Oh wow. I thought those guys were just memeing, I don't think I've ever heard such uninspired art music before.
Luis Turner
*jumps into thread and slams down a Wagner leitmotif*
Bog has hundreds of worse fugues and they were his specialty.
Asher Hill
I was talking more about prolonged trills at the end of a sequence, but short ornamental ones are great too.
Asher Campbell
It would be the best if that lazy fuck Beethoven had properly turned the dialog into singing.
Connor Edwards
>It would be the best if that lazy fuck Bog had properly turned the counterpoint into music.
Michael Wright
>vibrato in any piece of music ever
Colton Cruz
>be me >have appreciation for all styles and eras of classical music >recognize the necessity of Boulez, Stockhausen, Grisey, and Ferneyhough >realize QT who listens to Eric Whitacre and similar might actually really like you
Is this how good taste ends?
Christopher Wright
Imma let you finish, but the French Baroque school of organ is the best organ tradition of all time
>Baroque organ Everyone knows the organ is only good for autismos like Messiaen to experiment with.
Juan Jones
>recognize the necessity of Boulez, Stockhausen, Grisey, and Ferneyhough Literally the only one of those with any merit whatsoever as a composer and innovator is Grisey.
Wyatt Stewart
Was Baroque created by the Counter-Reformation?
Lincoln Scott
>Everyone knows the organ is only good for autismos like Messiaen to experiment with.
Adam Walker
Not even Boulez you can agree with?
Alexander Nguyen
As a composer, no.
Austin Taylor
>Le Marteau >Derive >Structures >Repons
Owen Cox
Disregarding the fact that it is ugly anti-art, none of those pieces have significant influence nor did they innovate, they are mere curiosities of an era and very, very misguided artistic movement.
William Turner
Le Marteau and Repons aren't innovative? You fucking what?
>ugly anti-art Oh I see, you're one of THOSE people.
Cameron Lee
plebeian.
Jaxon Adams
Why exactly are these compositions significant? Integral serialism is only an elaboration on the work of the second viennese school and Messiaen. And live electronics? It's really just a gimmick and not something that has moved composition forward in any meaningful way.
Juan Miller
They're as significant as Mahler's link to Wagner. A refinement of technique in expression in a new form.
Anthony Gomez
What's your favorite hymn by Martin Luther and your favorite setting of it?
Joseph Bennett
So completely insignificant meme music championed by retards and jews then, got it.
David James
>I just want you all to know that an actual GIRL (yes a GIRL) might like me, but to pretend that I'm actually being on-topic, I'll tie it tenuously to music
that a lot of women have bad taste is something /classical/ has discussed time and time again. Also, the fact that she likes something doesn't mean you have to like it too you spacker.
Nicholas Cooper
You always know it is a persuasive argument when it has the word meme in it.
Carter Lopez
what are some patrician charts
Camden Brown
A mighty fortress is our god, it's the most well-known for a reason.
Ian Hall
check out guiseppe sammartinis recorder concerto in f. That piece screams spring louder than anything vivaldi ever wrote.
Gabriel Anderson
Ein feste burg in the final movement of Mendelssohn 5 Christ lag in todesbanden in the Bach cantata and the final movement of Bruhn's Hemmt eure Tranenflut
Kayden Lopez
t. dumbass
Jordan Lopez
>no see THIS pitch heap with no rhyme or reason is good because bog intended to show us the fabric of the blablabla
I'm just starting to get into classical and am just listening to whatever on spotify, but do you guys have any suggestions if I want something similar?
Jayden Perry
>recognize the necessity of Boulez, Stockhausen, Grisey, and Ferneyhough How the fuck are they necessities?
I don't know you guys but there's something really unsetting in the very essence of classical music. Something sinister and primordial. Am I the only one who feels that way?
David Ortiz
Autism
Wyatt Fisher
Because it was written for and by goddamn aristocrats, and they surely were sinister.
Oliver Ward
this desu
William Long
noob here looking to get into polish 20th century classical
where to start? enjoying Gorecki atm
Angel Walker
I rarely enjoy pieces that have no recurring, catchy themes. Pieces that are just a constant flow of melody with no recurring moments don't do it for me unless it's a composer I really like. It's why rondo and similar forms are my favourite. Anyone else feel me?
Dylan Rodriguez
that means you have a plebeians soul
like a literal plebeian
Aiden Moore
wow
Xavier Barnes
Autists preferred science at that time, music was reserved for debauchery and promiscuity
David Walker
>tfw you'll never feel the calculated sadism and emotions of a high nazi officer who listens Mozart They were fucking evil, but you often wonder how that evil felt like.
Caleb Torres
Many people did both
Chase Peterson
>high nazi officer the German Nazis were mostly middle class stolid morons with no taste at all. Most of them were incapable of de Sade's kind of wickedness, since their wickedness was that of an stick-in-the-mud stubborn school teacher.
Lincoln Nelson
He was the opposite of an autist.
Julian Lewis
But he was a polymath, much like most aristocrats at the time. Art and science hand-in-hand.
Hunter Mitchell
>German Nazis Yeah, Persian and Mexican Nazis were the ones who had taste in art.
