I'm honestly so done with fucking normie jazz enthusiasts. People thinking they can buy "Kind of Blue" or "Mingus Ah Um" on waxtime vinyl and consider themselves a jazz fan. Thoughts?
Fucking Normie Jazz
Lucas Lopez
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Alexander Carter
>being this much of an elitist jazz fag
kill yourself
Jeremiah Edwards
>jazz in 2017
Eli Garcia
It isn't Miles' fault all the plebs hopped on his bandwagon. He still produced some of the best albums of all time and that's one of em.
Jeremiah Gray
Hmmm, me thinks you own Kind of Blue on waxtime vinyl
Jaxson Morgan
haha nice one. why don't you go jerk off your favorite fusion bebop blues ensemble
David Lewis
genuinly curious in some non normie jazz
Chase Reyes
are you sad user? i feel bad for you honestly :(
Ian Thompson
foaming at the mouth over a shit genre of music.
Justin Wright
Buddy im way ahead of you, I got some bob mintzer playing right now
William Sullivan
See:
>The 800 "How to into jazz: x edition!" Charts the jazz community keeps churning out in the hopes of reviving interest on Sup Forums
>the penguin guide to jazz
>rym+allmusic
>BBC's jazz show with Alyn Shipton
>google.com
Jace Ortiz
alright bud. head back to your grade eight band room
Tyler Rogers
I don't know much about jazz. My favorite album is Bitches Brew. Does this make me a normie?
Benjamin Sanchez
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Camden Sanchez
Nope. Just a poseur.
Anthony Martinez
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Isaiah Brooks
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Caleb Davis
>music elitism
i remember when i was 14 too op
Caleb Rogers
>jazz
Kayden Lopez
>poseur
i'm proud of you, young man. Thank you for making them understand. You're doing a good job.
*plays sax solo in the rain*
You know, kiddo... you remind me of all the cool cats that made this magic happen in the first place.
*winks while smirking*
Don't let me down.
William Evans
fuck off desu
Evan Martin
Thank mr. cooltrane I'll make you and jaez thread man proud
Chase Myers
Why do people on Sup Forums complain about Miles and Coltrane so much when if you actually interacted with people irl you would learn the kings of superficial jazz knowledge would be Dave Brubeck and Getz/Gilberto?
Daniel Richardson
Tbf, you could also throw Billie Holiday, Herbie Hancock, Nina Simone, Ella Fitzgerald, Weather Report, Louis Armstrong, Frank Sinatra, Jaco Pastorius, Victor Wooten/Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, Vulfpeck, Snarky Puppy, etc., etc.
on to that list and by the time you're done, you'd have 3/4 of the major jazz artists modern and old listed.
Coltrane, Mingus and Miles are just the guys who get touted online the most so they're easier targets online.
Isaac Butler
Getz/Gilberto superficial jazz? It's not smooth jazz or jazz pop really. The Girl From Ipanema is a jazz standard and a classic for crying out loud. Please don't tell me that you're one of those purists who dismiss jazz fusion completely.
Thomas Walker
he said "superficial jazz knowledge" not "superficial jazz"
Camden Cruz
I don't dislike Gitz/Gilberto. I was just pointing out that's it's probably the most "normie jazz" along with Take Five, which I also don't think is bad.
Samuel Moore
>hating one of the few close to listenable jazz albums just because it's popular
It's not Mingus' fault he's one of the few jazz composers that actually came close to knowing how to write music.
Isaac Young
underrated post, he was wrong about modernism, but was otherwise right in declaring art dead.
Easton Ross
>I don't dislike Gitz/Gilberto. I was just pointing out that's it's probably the most "normie jazz" along with Take Five, which I also don't think is bad.
I agree. I also recommend Take Five first to friends who are interested in getting into jazz. On the other hand, So What and Blue in Green are classics, though I'm not sure how other songs work for someone who's new to jazz.
I misread, I'm sorry. When you get so used to ridiculous bait threads, it's no wonder why this happened.
Nolan Flores
>he said he doesn't know much about jazz
>poseur
ok fag
Christian Flores
who cares? jazz is just random noodlin. it's only fun for people who play it and for pretentious wannabes who think they 'get it'
Christopher Parker
1/10
At least put some effort in.
Chase Nelson
I am a rock music listening pleb who recently starting listening to Kind of Blue and A Love Supreme. I really enjoyed the latter. How do I properly get into jazz?
Isaac Powell
i have no idea how to rate jazz
i do like pharoah sanders and alice coltrane and don cherry though
real spiritual stuff
David Moore
Before you go listening to random acclaimed jazz albums actually familiarize yourself with different eras and movements in jazz, such as early jazz, swing, modal jazz, cool jazz, fusion, third stream, etc. what they are and their implications. This is the biggest problem with jazz discussions on Sup Forums. Everyone just looks at RYM and Scaruffi's list and circlejerks over 5 or 6 albums and created a stigma around Miles and John Coltrane for no reason.
That one jazz tripfag who made that chart a few years ago actually did a good job at explaining them even though I disagreed with some of the albums he picked.
Ayden Morgan
Hmm...so I'll listen to acclaimed works from each era and understand how it's evolved and all.
Adrian Ramirez
Freddie Hubbard is the normie filter
Nicholas Hall
>why don't people listen to the most obscure albums in a genre instead of the famous ones
These discussions are so retarded. Theres thousands of jazz albums out there, people don't have time to listen to every single one so they listen to the most popular ones. Be happy they aren't listening to shitty smooth jazz like Herb Alpert and Chuck Mangione.
Charles Harris
Curb your autism OP
Nathaniel Thompson
Good idea, remember to add a lot of charlie parker to that bebop list too fampai
Ian Taylor
And when people ask: Whos the Jesus Christ of Jazz?
Only one answer will do.
Brody Rogers
I wish people would look at Scaruffi's list, it's full of super obscure albums no one has heard of. But everyone ignores 99% of the list and just sees the ones they've already heard of and listens to that.
Nathaniel Gomez
His list is garbage and his writings about jazz are laughable. He's an ok rock critic but he needs to stay the fuck away from jazz.
Caleb Sullivan
This one?
Tyler Reyes
I'm pretty sure the ridiculous degree to which he overrates Sun Ra is the reason he's so popular around internet communities like Sup Forums.
Isaiah Barnes
That and the fact that he makes stupid lists and oversimplifies everything.
Actually probably the biggest reason is that most of his writings are all easily available online on one website. Makes it easy for people who are too lazy to do any actual digging.
If people are looking for a better collection of critical jazz writings all on one website they should go to Ted Panken's site. It's a goldmine.
Adrian Walker
do you guys just listen to jazz or actually play it. Because if you guys are being this big of elitists JUST FROM LISTENING you need to be beat with bats holy shit
Blake Scott
Roland Kirk - The Inflated Tear
Thank me later
Isaiah Nguyen
Search for "Rudy van Gelder edition" on Spotify, listen to every album that comes up.
Gabriel Morales
The most elitist people are always the ones who don't know how to play an instrument from my experience.
Jace Reyes
Yeah, generally speaking you can pretty much ignore the opinions of anybody who doesn't play jazz. And it's usually pretty obvious when you read people's comments who plays and who doesn't.
There are exceptions- there are a few good jazz critics who never really played themselves- but not many.
Jace King
>this thread
More proof jazz is for pretentious fedora tippers
Austin Diaz
yeah this is true
could you point me toward them
-10/10
Jaxson Perry
Nat Hentoff is the most notable
Matthew James
huhuh, A Love Supreme is your favorite jazz album? i bet you don't even know who Grachan Moncur III is you slovenly neanderthal *trily tip*
Brody Lewis
If it's his favorite it's his favorite. You're the poser for assigning shitty scene politic value to stuff people call their favorite albums
Lucas Perez
Jesus Christ, the autism!
Parker Ross
can y'all rec an album in the vein of Blue in Green from Kind of Blue? Kinda lowkey, depressed piano jazz.
David Stewart
Yes I can.
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James Gray
cont.
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Check out the albums
Ballads-John Coltrane
'Round About Midnight- Miles Davis
Ascenseus Pour L'échafaud- Miles Davis
Idle Moments- Grant Green
Parker Peterson
Anyone into Louis Jordan?
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Grew up listening to this. Don't know if it's nostalgia but it still feels pretty solid.
Caleb Flores
He was absolutely insane. I wish he was discussed more on Sup Forums.
Aaron Rogers
The only kind of jazz I like is big band and swing.
Jayden Brooks
Check this out my friend.
Austin Cruz
Why is it always these shitty b8 threads that get a lot of replies but if you make a thread trying to discuss jazz or ask for specific recs it dies with less than 10 replies.
Jackson Evans
Roland Kirk is top 10 goat musicians, he's not discussed here because he's sincerely patrician. (This is a board for plebs)
Lucas Cook
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Just listen to this. Like, what's even going on here? This is at the level of Coltrane and Ornette Coleman easily.
Ayden Moore
Red Clay is a great album
Grayson Phillips
And he was BLIND on top of all.
Robert Jones
fuck jazz - it's the only genre where the better you get at playing it, the less money you make. and nearly all jazz shows are fucking sausage-fests. you wanna get good, get paid less, and play to a room full of dudes standing there with their arms folded, thinking to themselves they can either play it better than you, or are critiquing you against all their other jazz favorites.
fuck jazz....
Thomas Mitchell
>t. AnCo fan
Asher Cruz
What would you recommend to someone who says A Love Supreme is their favorite album?
Daniel Cook
Don't make music your source of income? Simple. You can love music and play for yourself, busk, but to play jazz in the 21st century and hope to make a living is a bit of a stretch.
Isaac Richardson
what about plebs who only buy music matters vinyl?
Angel Fisher
I think if you are really great at jazz, you could probably make it as a session musician that gets called on time and again by big pop acts.
Joshua Rivera
*cough* George Benson *cough*
Chase Watson
My favorite is This here - Cannonball Adderley
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Am I a fucking normie jazz enthusiasts ?
Juan Harris
Who cares? Just continue enjoying such a diverse genre as jazz.
Mason Ramirez
>I don't know much about Jazz
>LOL UR A POSEUR
He qualified the statement, what more do you want from him?