Why is your average right-wing dumbass so insistent that human-caused climate change is a hoax when nearly every peer-reviewed scientific study converges on it being not only fact, but fact that we need to address quickly and powerfully?
Is it a coincidence that the kinds of people most-likely to believe in religion are also most likely to believe natural gas special interests and the Republican politicians they've bought and paid for instead of the overwhelming majority of legitimate scientific studies? All while ironically calling OTHERS shills?
Are these kinds of morons the ones who will ultimately doom humanity to extinction?
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Zachary Morris
What's that, Ruskie shill? Speak Freedom, bitch.
Chase Harris
Long story short - global warming does not exist, but climate change does. It is not a bad thing and not human made.
Jaxson Diaz
Says who, your Exxon handler? Yeah, I'll stick with what the scientists say.
Luis Long
You're making Bill Nye very proud
Hudson Torres
But a guy with a degree in гyмaнитapныe нayки is not a real scientist.
Nolan Russell
>said some SJW cuck shit worthy of him being forever hated now >literally everything he's ever said is wrong!
Sorry, user, it doesn't follow. I know conservatards have trouble making sound arguments but you can learn; I believe in you.
Carter Hill
yoo long; didn't russian
Humans do not produce even a fraction of CO2 that influences climate. Greens are a pack pof dumbasses who just want to scrape some money off you and me.
Am i to expect that a regional environment group with limited resources has enough money to pay hundreds of scientists to study climate change and come up with a real conclusion? Their conclusion being oh shit, planet is getting warmer, it must be co2!! Let's not account for the fact that a single volcano produces more co2 than all cars combined can.
Yes, we've all seen climate change, i remember it being different when i was a kid. But blaming humans without a proper study is bull. Dinosaurs saw climate change, i guess it must have been their factories.
Daniel Martinez
Are you legitimately so autistic, user?
Logan Jenkins
Exactly! How can scientists with no resources produce any results. They need money for real studies
Adam Ward
Yes
Nolan Clark
And if libertards argue that their studies were properly funded then ops logic is incorrect because then there would also be enough money to bribe them, right warren buffet?
Nolan Hill
Try to learn something, my retarded friends. Or if you're just shills, pls tongue my anus.
>when nearly every peer-reviewed scientific study converges on it being not only fact, You've never read any of these. You are echoing talking points simply because they are loud. Have some self awareness you village idiot. You have no idea how reliant on fossil fuels we are and just how fast this ship goes down without them.
Gabriel Perry
see >You are echoing talking points simply because they are loud. >projecting this hard
Julian Hall
Not an argument, summer friend. You can go ahead and assume I never clicked your shitty link and expected you to create a coherent thought instead of riding the dicks of others smarter than you.
Jason Watson
People are not that bright.
Parker Evans
Even if it was true id still buy gas and burn whatever the fuck i felt like and buy the same products cause im not going to be here forever and i just dont care. We'll wipe ourselves out eventually. Also, go back to your other gay websiteyou faggot fucker.
Noah Barnes
>"Not an argument, summer friend" >Implying what you said before was an argument and not asinine projection >implying you made a single argument and haven't just been slinging shit this entire time
wew lad
Read the link I gave you again, it's filled with actual science. I know that scares you since it's not filtered through some alt-right podcaster's cum-filled mouth but if you genuinely give a shit about the truth, you'll have to grin and bear it.
Levi Adams
>fuck you, I got mine >you talk like a fag and your shit's retarded
Yup, conservatard confirmed.
Ian Richardson
Which wing the correct wing?
Jose Torres
I am pretty sure the ocean levels are rising because of all the liberal tears
Ryan Young
Ummm. That link proves my point? I'm not denying climate change. I'm denying man driven climate change. Note most links conclude "holy chit, climate is changing! We should do something about it", but almost none "holy chit, man is causing it!"
Brandon Flores
Anyone with a brain should relise global warming is our own doing. All that shit that ends up in the air doesn't get there naturally, and the only ones on the planet smart enough to make the shit that produces it are humans. So.. I don't even see how they have any sort of a arguement against it. That said, I give it 20 years before the planet is beyond fucked that you need to go outside in a hasmat suit in any 1st world country. Its already pretty bad as it is and its only going to get exponentally worse, as were not doing anywhere near enough to stem it.
Justin Morgan
Yup, 20 years, you should anhero so you don't have to go through it, makes life better for you and me both
Ryan Rogers
>the US burns through 19 million 50 Gallon barrels of oil each day >All of humanity moving gigatons of carbon from the fossil record to the atmosphere does nothing to affect the equalibrium Is that your carefully considered opinion?
Benjamin Sullivan
Not even 1% of co2 produced by volcanos and natural fenomena. Stop trolling man
Chase Cooper
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. >Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Aiden Wilson
>the US could generate as much energy as is contained within the oil that they burn daily with about 16,000 solar panels
Anthony Nelson
>natural fenomena >Stop trolling
Easton Diaz
Do you have a source to back that up?
Colton Williams
Not worth sharing knowledge with someone who can't google
Jaxon Cook
Don't bother, I'll just post a link that says you're full of shit
>Greenhouse gasses increase the temperature of the planet >We're releasing a ton of greenhouse gasses >The temperature of the planet is increasing faster than it ever has What about these three points is so hard to understand?
Isaiah Cox
I legitimately cannot find a source that says volcanos produce more CO2 than humans. Every link says the opposite
Christian Rivera
Did anyone even watch the video posted earlier? It talks about exactly that.
Austin Hughes
Link?
Oliver Gutierrez
Volcanos and natural fenomena idiot, not just volcanos
What do you have to contribute to the conversation?
Christopher Robinson
Ok, what other natural phenomenon should we add to the pot?
Zachary Flores
Dude, let me ask you, does co2 magically dissapear? Because volcanos have been here since 4 billion years ago. Multiply all those years by the yearly average volcano emissions from your link.
Now take average human emissions and multiply it by 100 years (im being generous here), which one is greater?
Oh, but if co2 magically dissapears, then why are you worried? And if it doesnt, then thats where that 1% comes from
Dylan Lewis
Your mom farts
Oliver Cooper
>Dude, let me ask you, does co2 magically dissapear No, only the carbon cycle removes carbon from the atmosphere, but it's a very slow cycle
>Now take average human emissions and multiply it by 100 years (im being generous here), which one is greater? The human emissions
>And if it doesnt, then thats where that 1% comes from Where are you getting 1% from?
You seem to be extraordinarily misinformed. Did you drop out of highschool or something?
Parker Flores
Liberitard authored articles. It's not the yearly production of co2 that creates a green house effect, it's the total co2 in the air. That total amount didn't just happen in the industrial revolution.
2nd, 90% of green house gases are water vapor, not co2. Maybe we should regulate water vapor, right? Heck, in fact, i forbid you to start sweating right now, you are killing us!
Andrew Wright
>muh fake sources!
I bet you think the Earth's flat too. God damn dumbass.
Matthew Butler
show proof of claims
Liam Turner
So you are saying 35 metric tons times 100 is greater than 2 metric tons times 4 billion?
Check your math
Adrian Reyes
Use google man. You want to discredit me try hard
Carson Butler
k. google says you're wrong. bam. i win. you lose.
now back up your claims or you're full of shit
Lincoln Smith
Water vapor holds heat better than CO2 but each molecule only stays in the air for about 7 days and the water content of the air is equilibrium-driven. Literally a non-issue
A CO2 molecule stays in the atmosphere for on average 10,000 years. All of the carbon in fossil fuels was pulled out of the air around the Jurassic period. So if we burn all the fossil fuels then the CO2 levels will approximately match the Jurassic.
All of that CO2 did appear during the industrial revolution, because that's when the use of fossil fuels became widespread.
>lrn2basicenvironmentalscience
Cameron Nelson
Are you insinuating that Volcanos don't participate in the carbon cycle?
Henry Bell
Show me your math. Show me that by accounting for the carbon cycle we have produced more of the co2 we currently breath than volcanos have. Ill bet you my life you cant
Sebastian Rodriguez
Using your own figures >35 metric tons X 100 > (2 metric tons X 4 billion) - (2 metric tons X 4 billion) >3500 metric tons > 0 metric tons
You should learn about the carbon cycle
Ethan Anderson
Are you literally retarded?
Alexander Sullivan
>>We're too reliant on fossil fuels to come up with an alternative for fossil fuels
I can't stop smoking crack. You have no idea how fast I'll go down without it.
Samuel Garcia
Are you? Let me simplify the problem for you.
Where did the carbon in fossil fuels come from? What process returns that carbon to the fossil record?
Where does the carbon in volcanoes come from? What process returns that carbon to the Earth?
Blake Martinez
The answer to the first question is that right-wingers tend to be poorly-educated religiotards.
To the second, no, not a coincidence. That same lack of education renders the conservatard incapable of understanding the power of the scientific method and the peer-review process.
To the third question, yes.
Nathaniel Phillips
"In 2008, the global total of CO2 released from the soil reached roughly 98 billion tonnes, about 10 times more carbon than humans are now putting into the atmosphere each year by burning fossil fuel"
Fuck your sources
Zachary Carter
It's called the carbon cycle and has been mentioned multiple times in this thread.
Brayden Ward
ITT: autismally challenged Americlaps cucked into defending the rape of their childrens homeland and future in keeping with the interests of rich lobby groups funded by Ahmed-golds
I'm so sorry you ended up in the part of the world where schools are so shit that you can graduate without having an understanding of basic critical thinking, while at the same time having such a concentration of wealth that corporate interests can afford to jizz their desinformation all over the society that they dominate. Americans defending the destructive interests of financial institutions are like the heavyweight cucks of the world
Carson Mitchell
I'm the one mentioning it, dipshit.
lrn2readingcomprehension
Gabriel Torres
And the carbon cycle put all that CO2 right back in the ground so it could do it again next year.
What else do you have?
James King
Ohhhhh So now your saying everything we burned came from co2?
So all co2 we produce will also be eventally recycled back. So whats your worry? With your logic we should start cooling down in about 20 years, when we hit peak oil, right?
If you were smart enough to cancel volcano emissions to zero then you should have also cancelled human emmisions to zero
Jaxson Cook
AGW is bullshit
kill yourselves libtards
Robert Thomas
So every year all our emissions are recycled? Why all the worry then?
Kayden Ortiz
Fucking republicunts and their "alternative facts." They believe whatever their party tells them. Science, schmience.
Aaron Evans
You're retarded. The carbon in the fossil record is the summation of that carbon that could not escape into the atmosphere as plants decayed during the Jurassic period. The conditions required don't exist over as much of the world as they did in the Jurassic, so the rate of accumulation will be slower. Besides that, what took the Jurassic period thousands of years to pull out of the atmosphere, we're pumping it back out in just centuries.
What part of this is too complicated for you?
Jace Cox
hey retards. world is in constant cycle of freezing and heating. the scale of this cycles is huge in comparison to human lifespan. first civilization started popping up when earth STARTED getting warmer NOT when earth completely warmed up. we know as a fact that there were people living in doggerland and that during as recent as roman times northern europe was much colder then now. We are still living during this warming up period and all the ice will melt in time and after that earth will start freezing again and the cycle continues. its normal.
Chase Hernandez
How often does that cycle move all of the carbon from the fossil record to the atmosphere?
Justin Bailey
That soil emissions are still 10 times greater.
Soil+volcanoes+otherco2sources considered puts our emission percentage at about 1%, yearly.
What liberitards are sayong is that a 1% increase in co2 is dooming us.
Kevin Jackson
Not even accounting that water is still the largest green house gas by large
Jordan Garcia
No, what everyone with half a brain is saying is that all of these carbon sources are in equalibrium, except for the carbon that has been buried miles under the Earth for millennia.
All the CO2 that volcanoes release is returned to the Earth through processes in the ocean at the same rate
All the CO2 that the soil emits as part of decay is pulled back into the soil by plants at the same rate
All of the CO2 released from the fossil record is returned to the fossil record how? At what rate?
One of these things is not like the other...
Nathan Brown
See
Xavier Johnson
Ooooooohhhhh so now ypu quote something that says co2 stays in the air for 10 thousand of years.
I ask you again, where did most of the co2 currently present in our athmosphere come from?
You have to account for 10k years of soil and volcano emissions because they haven't gone through the cycle yet
Zachary Evans
>ExxonMobil topkek, I did my internship there, and I work(ed) there. Global warming is real, but the motto is really who gives a shit since the more drastic effects will not be felt within our life time.
Inb4 muh children. >anti-natalism
Inb4 God's green Earth. >there is no God
If you support movements that spend money on a non-immediate problem your being cucked.
Carter Sanchez
I think we got our 1% here boy
Joseph Flores
Most of the CO2 in our atmosphere came from the active carbon cycle. The CO2 we're concerned about came from the fossil record and is not a part of the active carbon cycle
Jayden Walker
>proud to be a part of the problem At least you admit there is a problem
Christian Gray
If greenhouse gasses stop the suns rays from exiting the atmosphere, how do they not stop it from entering in the first place?
Jace White
These the same people that believe the earth is 6000 years old and that a guy built a boat to house a pair of each animal during a giant flood, without any scientific proof. They are the gullible idiots.
Evan Williams
No, why would i be concerned about a 1% increase? Co2 is not even the greatest green house effect contributor so its contribution to temperature change would be less than 1%.
The remaining changes are part of normal cooling and heating cycles on Earth until you prove that 1% increase in co2 caused more harm, which you haven't
Jason Morales
>diffraction angle Look into optics and light. Interesting stuff
Angel Rivera
Can't even explain why.. Lol that went downhill real quick for you, didn't it.. Actually slow, but whatever
Josiah Gomez
Where are you getting 1% from?
Here, answer these immensely simple questions:
>where did the carbon in the fossil record come from? >when did it get there? >what was the atmospheric CO2 level just before that time? >what will the atmospheric CO2 level be if we return all that carbon to the atmosphere?
Answer those and I'll use your numbers to calculate the greenhouse effect of that CO2
Cameron Long
>Can't even explain why.. Carbon cycle a r b o n
c y c l e
You have Google, don't you?
Nicholas Bell
why the fuck are you people even trying to teach a slav subhuman climate science? just ignore them and let the whole race drink themselves off the planet
William Ramirez
There is no problem, problems are things that are maladaptive to our lives, but guess what, global warming is not.
Again children do not matter.
Jacob Brooks
>hurr, if it isn't my problem, it isn't anyone's problem
Noah Myers
It doesn't even matter, really. Nature is a constant (change typically happens VERY slowly, and when change is abrupt terrible things typically happen to ecosystems) source of emission, and the world is in balance as things were. Adding however much greenhouse gases to that system can destabilize it. There is a number, our upper limit, that shouldn't be breached. In doing so, we're changing the world faster than it can adjust. We can adjust too, but it will probably not be enjoyable for us. Death, famine, plague, and war...you know what I'm sayin'.
Hudson Evans
>I have literally no reading comprehension The person I was responding to is claiming that human CO2 emissions are 1% of natural CO2 emissions.
Jeremiah Gutierrez
Scientific consensus has been wrong before, and the data being used in climate change is pretty complicated (lots of steps in scientific inference are needed to make the necessary connections, making the final results dependent on every step). As a physicist, I don't fully support the science that's been done there (they fit complex data with THOUSANDS of free parameters--usually not useful for understanding science). Only recently has it been shown that even conservatively (if there were many incorrect assumptions by scientists) that there is still a major problem with climate change. But again, that's quite recent (past decade or so).
So I completely understand how someone can be skeptical. You have to remember that scientists, like all humans, are fallible.
Landon Parker
Materials typically absorb things of specific energies only (often used to note that the light that's reflected will be an object's color).
In this case, greenhouse gases absorb heat from the earth that is transmitted as a very low frequency light wave. The sun's light, on the other hand, comes as a whole spectrum (with a lot of visible and UV light) which can freely pass through the greenhouse gases uninhibited.
Jack Evans
I never said that...and it doesn't matter. Between agriculture and and industrialization, our species is having a destabilizing affect on our planet. I'm not making any judgments about that, but the observation still holds true. Deforestation, rising ocean levels, ocean acidity, and pollution are things humans do. You can't tell me they have no affect on the overall the stability of ecosystems locally and worldwide.
Justin Sullivan
>>You can't tell me they have no affect on the overall the stability of ecosystems locally and worldwide.
They have no affect on the overall the stability of ecosystems locally and worldwide.
Guess I can. faggot
Carter Ross
>Scientific consensus has been wrong before
Never something with this much evidence or agreed upon by this much of the scientific community.
Nicholas Ramirez
Stop questioning the Right's logic. It's like trying to reason with a child. You can't do it. Its a group who overwhelmingly makes decisions based on their "gut," not facts. Even our fucking president has bragged about making his decisions bases on instinct, not reason. Why do you think they loathe the Left with such vitriole? They'll never be capable of similar higher-order thinking.