A stupid question here to native English speakers.
Consider the following sentence:
'I wonder if the receipt will be issued electronically once the payment is complete'
Now, I would like to change the tense in the main clause to Past Simple Continuous.
'I was just wondering if the receipt would be issued electronically once the payment...' here's the issue... 'once the payment *was* complete?'
Something tells me it has to be 'was complete', but 'once' used as a conjunction in a subordinate clause is not often seen in sequence of tenses excersises. So I just want to check with those whose mother tongue is English.
once the payment would be completed. same as earlier in the sentence
Jordan Collins
payment is complete job is done bitch is dead
is is is is
Jayden Watson
I honestly don't know what all those tenses are but IS just sounds correct when talking out loud
Owen Wilson
Is completed? Not a native
Jason Morgan
"...would be issued once the payment were complete." (Subjunctive mood)
With that said, a lot of speakers use "was" in the subjunctive too, because the verb 'to be' is the only verb in English where the subjunctive is different than the simple past anyway.
Hunter Phillips
sorry, I'm native English speaker, and its my only language, and this shit confused me.
Querying for "..if the Receipt would be issued electronically.." would end with "..once the payment was completed?"
Cooper Nguyen
But the bigger question is, why the past tense?
Justin Scott
I felt that 'is' sounded kinda natural, but the main caluse is in a past tense so perhaps one can't use 'is' there.
'would be completed' also sounds natural, but most Grammar books say we can't use any future or future-like tenses after 'once'.
'was complete' sounds least natural and seems to distort the meaning since the 'is' after 'once' in the original sentence conveys a meaning about something in the future.
It's quite a conundrum...
Henry Diaz
I was wondering if the receipt WILL be issued electronically WHEN the payment is completED.
>delete "just" >completed >when, not once
Lucas Nelson
You still use 'is'.
Carter Williams
instead of payment, use transaction.
Samuel Hughes
Blah blah blah has been completed.
Problem solved nigger
David Young
Erm, why can't I use 'once' here?
And how come you use 'will' in the subordinate when the main is in a past tense? Or the whole 'I was wondering' thing is considered informal enough to sort of set aside the sequence of tenses rules so religiously taught to foreigners?
Isaac Anderson
all wrong.
I was just wondering if the receipt would be issued electronically once the payment HAS BEEN COMPLETED?
Cooper Torres
Is complete
or
has completed
Gabriel Ramirez
Another foreigner here then. Sometimes I stumble upon certain cases where articles are omitted. but I feel like they should be there and can't quite understand why they're left out.
Real life examples I remember:
'Do you have preference?' Instead of 'a preference', spoken by a native speaker from England.
'It's just basic procedure' instead of 'a basic procedure', also spoken by a native speaker from England.
What the fuck? Why are articles omited here?
Jaxon Long
More and more versions of truth as the thread unwinds... Holy balls.
Juan Brooks
>I wonder if the receipt will be issued electronically once the payment is complete
'electronically', is redundant. we can all assume it's electronically. 'I was just wondering' or 'I wonder', makes no difference. last bit should be 'once the payment is complete'.
Jason Clark
Fucking laziness for the first. Could be a case of an regional accent hiding the "a"
The second is correct depending on the context. ie. "I have to get you to sign this crash report. It's nothing to worry about. It's just basic procedure."
Ideally "standard procedure" is a better fit, but like any language, there's a certain amount of flexibility allowed when speaking it.
Michael Jenkins
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Carson Allen
I was just wondering if the receipt would be issued electronically once the payment has been completed.
Jose Hill
After all of these questions, I'm just wondering what's going to happen to that damn receipt.
Camden Price
>regional accent hiding the "a"
I have surmised for a long time that certain accents go as far as altering article usage, but have never been sure.
>he second is correct depending on the context.
But why? Damn, 'procedure' is a countable noun, shouldn't there be an article before it?
Jayden Evans
'Procedure' actually can be both countable and uncountable.