Got into an argument with someone,

Andrew Butler
Andrew Butler

Got into an argument with someone,

As someone who isn't a lolicon (I prefer older women) why are you /b/edophiles into loli?

I did go through a big tumblrina phase and act like it was all about touching kids, but more recently I've been thinking (while different for everyone) it's more about like,

A kind of cartoony cuteness mixed w/ something adult and sexual, or liking petite/flat bodies but not necessarily wanting to be limited to tsundere boob insecurity (Louise, Taiga) , or just liking that mythical character type built up in animu fandom (innocent, probably wants to act adult, ingenue but devoted, kind) or even just some kinda age play domination thing?

Idk, what's it like for you guys who actually like this shit? Is is dom/sub or character type or cuteness and cuddles(but also with oniichans penis milk)

Genuinely wanna know, no hate intended. Also if ur into actual kids I guess that's something u could say here but it's not what I'm asking about.

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Brayden Martin
Brayden Martin

cute and small. and since they're imaginary, i make them smart in my head too.

Caleb Clark
Caleb Clark

pedo reporting

loli honestly doesnt appeal to me except for some western stuff like fucher.

Samuel Ward
Samuel Ward

is the whole "its okay cuz theyre not real" bullshit some pathetic form of denial that this obsession is harmful? im genuinely curious

Nathaniel Gray
Nathaniel Gray

ok so imo, I don't think lolicon are gonna turn into kid touchers. Because it isn't real, and you could say the "small and cute" thing for a LOT of western cartoon women (based on art style) but like, yeah, it could be pretty harmful if it's enabling people who wanna touch kids to touch kids.

Don't molest anyone no matter the age as a general rule.

Noah Bell
Noah Bell

I'm into loli and I'm actually asexual, so... 0 correlation.

Brandon Garcia
Brandon Garcia

Idk, maybe the fact that I was sexually abused for almost a decade as a kid fucked me up bad. Not like I'd ever touch a kid in my life. I don't even like irl lolis, just animu.

Christopher Wright
Christopher Wright

bullshit some pathetic form of denial that this obsession is harmful?

I mean..murder that happens in movies isn't real. Is it bullshit form of denial for the psychos in the world?

Jace Cox
Jace Cox

the thing is that fueling someone's urge like this will only make people want it more, and make it happen one day. maybe not for some but in stressful times not many wanna do the right thing and only make their dreams come true in whichever way possible

Kevin Scott
Kevin Scott

the thing is that fueling someone's urge like this will only make people want it more,

When you're thirsty and you drink water do you seek out more water?

Aiden Sanders
Aiden Sanders

I'd rather be dead then live the rest of my life so emotionally and psychologically fucked that social functions begin to degrade over time to the point I can't take care of myself.

Carter Smith
Carter Smith

I get that, and yes it would be bad for ACTUAL pedophiles, but I don't believe that (all, maybe most, idk) lolicon HAVE any desire to touch real kids.

Isaac Richardson
Isaac Richardson

thirsty and blueballed for lolis for so long you rape and murder a child

Leo Hill
Leo Hill

Well, sexual child abuse happens a lot more than you think. Like, seriously A WHOLE FUCKING LOT more. It's just that people never tell. I was like that for like 10 years and had always planned to take the secret to the grave. It's most often due to shame of being a cooparticipant, but yeah, most people never tell, and even when they do, it's often as children and rarely do adults believe them.

So, yeah, if it happens that much, I think loli porn (animu porn, the not real kind) is actually more beneficial than harmful in that it can serve as a sort of outlet.
Not that that'll stop people who're bent on molesting children, but at least it can calm the milder ones.

Angel Campbell
Angel Campbell

I've heard that a few times, I'm sorry that happened to you. It's fucked up, but it's good that you've got control etc.

Eli Richardson
Eli Richardson

Then how are you going to kill yourself?

Connor Jones
Connor Jones

I'm into girls ages of 14-18. There's no appeal in lolis really, assuming we're talking about the <11 year old ones. It's just a boring girl. Once they sprout into a young woman though, it becomes the finest piece of meat in existence. Perfect in every way. Thousands of years of humanity before us knew this very fact.

Zachary Jackson
Zachary Jackson

The release comes from cumming not lolis. People who have a fetish can still rub one out when the biological mechanism for reproduction demands it.

People who "live out their fantasies" abandon the social contract. That's a completely different conversation.

Jaxon Wood
Jaxon Wood

I do hope it could help even one kid tbh, or at least, in the way that some people lose interest in real people for fictional, maybe it could have the same effect on a potential kid-toucher?

But at the same time, don't necessarily believe that lolicon are kid touchers/into kids, for some it seems more like lewding a teddy bear than looking at a snot nosed child and thinking umph

Eli Green
Eli Green

Ephebophilia > pedophilia.

Carson Carter
Carson Carter

finest piece of meat

Cool phrasing, this is terrifying.

Luke Adams
Luke Adams

More than control, it's like I don't feel any kind of attraction for real kids. I can see them as cute and dote on them, but that's it, pretty normal stuff. But yeah, even if I was attracted to children, I'd never lay a hand on them. I know first-hand how terrible it can be for the child, so I wouldn't put anyone through such an experience.
Thanks, instead of being sorry, be careful. If you have any children or just know of people with children, warn them, tell them to not trust blindly in even the closest ones when it comes to that. In fact, the closest people are the ones in the best positions to do that. I'd know that.

Ayden Barnes
Ayden Barnes

I know it, my mother had some bad experiences as a teenager, always guarded me super carefully from IRL shitbags (tho will admit i met some an ocean away online) , and the only kid I'm really close to is watched like a hawk. I have a pretty small family (excluding like third cousins and people in idk nevada ive never met) and wont hesitate to report if I see signs (hoping I even WOULD see signs.)

Julian Sanders
Julian Sanders

Just try not to molest anyone ephe/b/ophile

Anthony Morgan
Anthony Morgan

he intentionally phrased it that way for the shock factor and you took the bait hook line and sinker. Don't be terrified of 30-year-old peophiles bud, they're harmless

Jackson Thompson
Jackson Thompson

Not clear to many, maybe OP too. I'm called a pedo on the daily.

Sorry if that triggered you but technically that's what we all are. Some are finer than others.

Isaac Kelly
Isaac Kelly

I agree. Personally, I like loli animu porn (cause maybe my 9-year-long abuse fucked me up) but real kids don't turn me on in the least. I think it's mostly beacuse lolis tend to be portrayed in mature manners, like, no kid would ever behave like a loli in manga unless it was made specifically like that, which is not THAT common, but yeah.

Levi Rivera
Levi Rivera

What are you lolifags thoughts on people trying to make pedophilia a sexuality/religion?

Benjamin Brown
Benjamin Brown

First things first.
I am not predatory, I will never be predatory.
That out the way I am attracted to 12ish+ girls, but also fully matured women.
I was attracted to girls my age when puberty hit and still am, but the attraction cutoff never happened.
I think I'm sick.
It makes me feel uneasy when the flash of arousal crosses my brain in reality. I use loli to relieve my sexual frustration.
I don't think I can justify how I feel in any other way than the thought of taking advantage of a young girl disgusts me.
Pre-teens still are largely ignorant and easily brainwashed.

Xavier Flores
Xavier Flores

Ur cool bro there's a difference. And not to be That Guy but especially the way adults copy teen fashion these days and kids do their make up like fucking pros, I can't exactly blame you for looking at a 15 y/o if she looks 20 (tho personally would gtfo when I learned the truth, again tho, I prefer older.)

(also just don't molest anyone)

David Price
David Price

not clear to many
for example see

curious that your mind went to molestation. tell us more

William Murphy
William Murphy

see this is such a fucking bullshit argument, every time. i generally dont wish people ill, but i wonder what you'd choose given such a choice. think about it.

Jackson Garcia
Jackson Garcia

i like small robots, and small gundams.

John Diaz
John Diaz

I believe you, I don't think that lolicon will go on to be kid touchers, as long as it helps you it's not the same thing as someone who may seek to actually take advantage of a (real) little girl/get off to that idea, etc.

That said, if it really does make you feel bad, I might recommend seeking help, but I know that talking about this kind of thing must be next to fucking impossible. I wish that it was easier to, for people who do want help (or just to find out why they're this way)

Xavier Hughes
Xavier Hughes

What I would do if I were a degenerate?

Shitpost anonymously.

Good talk though, glad we bonded.

Nicholas Harris
Nicholas Harris

It's just a good rule to follow. Long as you don't do that most social interactions are acceptable.

Noah Davis
Noah Davis

I'm glad your mother learned from the experience and took care of you and it's great that the kid you know is being watched, although sometimes, even that's not enough :/

It's frightening because it happens to both boys and girls. There's usually no distinction with those bastards (though they usually incline more towards boys, from what I've seen and, well, experienced, lol).
Just keep in mind all this. Never forget it and try to help anyone you can. It's the most silent of crimes, most of the time.

Ayden Roberts
Ayden Roberts

If you pedos ever get tired of living just breath a tank of helium, you'll die painlessly and pathetically.

Evan Gray
Evan Gray

Unless you mean something completely different, there's no molestation mate. Plenty of teens who mature faster than others are fully into it, maybe even more so than me.

And to be honest with you, it's way more problematic to know that they can abuse the system and put you up on false rape charges than the fact they're biologically ready for mating by the age of 14.

Kayden Parker
Kayden Parker

I feel like there's way too much of a stigma around this kind of thing. Of course the thought of a (real) kid being touched/etc is going to make people squirm and feel upset, but there's a difference between
I wanna touch kids
and
I was touched as a kid, and I somethings think of kids sexually

People need to feel comfortable enough to seek help/just to talk about their experiences in a constructive way. Making people keep hush hush is good for no one.

Sebastian Perry
Sebastian Perry

Fucked up, what else could it be?

Blake Nguyen
Blake Nguyen

Nice trips.
You are right when you say the idea of telling a professional is scary.
All I can envision is being told it is unhealthy and that I need to somehow stop it.
It is totally an unconscious thing, how does one stop the unconscious?
I worry that I will be branded.
I am afraid to seek help.
Jesus, my eyes are watering.

Ryan Baker
Ryan Baker

they're biologically ready for mating by the age of 14.

Sure, that's why we go off the ability to give consent. Which comes later in life because our brains take time to develop. Your argument doesn't fly in court because that's not the unit of measurement we as a society use to determine readiness to bang. It's a filthy cope out. Either follow the law or don't, but don't do this wishy washy bullshit.

Sebastian Diaz
Sebastian Diaz

done dumping.

Josiah Thomas
Josiah Thomas

Just to add to this, psychologists don't usually leak nor act upon any kind of information unless there's a crime or potential crime involved (and even then, I'm not that sure), and even less if it's about someone seeking help. A decent enough psychologist would NEVER abandon someone seeking help, so, even though it doesn't make it any easier, it's an option.

Oliver Cook
Oliver Cook

Okay the latter one I can agree with.

Say for example,

see someone in a bar
she gets carded
is served drinks
okay cool she's 21+
nope lmao she's 15
when you find out anyway she's still into it
maybe you both consent to fuck again after
her parents find out, call you a rapist
now you're in jail with people who shoot smack up their assholes for a good chunk of your life

Kayden Gray
Kayden Gray

Its cute but not something I would actually masturbate to

Even though it looks unrealistic its child-like

Jeremiah Clark
Jeremiah Clark

nope lmao she's 15

This is where you stop

Because of her age she legally can't

maybe you both consent to fuck

it's not rocket surgery.

Jayden Campbell
Jayden Campbell

Little girls are cute and sexy.

Isaac Myers
Isaac Myers

gay

Josiah Bell
Josiah Bell

I've been in and out of therapy before (unrelated, cutter) and while I know it's not the same - Pedophilia is one of THE most hush-hush topics you can bring up - I know it's really, really terrifying to bring that kind of thing up.

There's something inside you that you can't understand and probably can't express in words, and Jesus, is it hard to hear someone try to put it into words for you on your own dollar.

But you're not hurting anyone, and you wouldn't hurt anyone. There are real, actual kid touchers out there who talk about touching kids. It's fucked up that you should be afraid of confessing that you like a Cartoon Image and you're afraid of actually hurting someone.

You're not a monster, you're not a predator.

Gavin Price
Gavin Price

Of course the thought of a (real) kid being touched/etc is going to make people squirm and feel upset

On a side note, the reason this happens is because people are (thankfully) still capable of empathy and they can put themselves in the shoes of the parent whose kid got touched. If I wouldn't want my kid fiddled by randoms in my unfortunate absence, I would feel the same way if it was done to another kid... or if - I - did it. So I refrain from it.

Yes I know my argument doesn't fly in court. But this isn't court and I'm not guilty of anything anyway, so I am explaining why I believe my mentality is sound and why, despite being into 14 year olds, I don't feel anything towards lolis; yet still get the social stigma for it.

Ultimately we all draw the line somewhere.

Aiden Adams
Aiden Adams

I think that's precisely it. Maybe something in the subconscious mind simply associates the experience with arousal, especially if it was a sexually gratifying experience (which doesn't make it better and only adds to the abused's guilt, btw). Maybe that's what happened in my case, though with 2D girls. Not that I only like lolis or even particularly lolis. I just kinda like them. I'm more of a boobs guy and masochist girls.

Landon Green
Landon Green

Thank you for your kind words.
Really, I mean that.
This helps me.

Andrew Bell
Andrew Bell

The real problem stems from the inability to separate fantasy from reality. Wanting to diddle a kid in Imaginary Make-Believe Land is perfectly fine, in my opinion. You shouldn't apply real life laws and reasoning to a fantasy. It's not based in our reality.

I think that everyone thinks and imagines things, but what's really important is making sure that you don't act on them. Unless you think that thought-crimes should be a thing and that's a different story.

Alexander Morales
Alexander Morales

the point isn't whether or not she can legally fuck, the point is that it's fucked up that she can "consent" and then she wont be punished for something that can manipulate a guy into becoming a sex offender. But it's also fucked up for her (as in not a good thing)

Or a girl idk maybe she's a lesbian it's 2017.

Gabriel Baker
Gabriel Baker

And of course there are also people who just want to fuck kids in real life but either care too much about the well being of the child or don't want to do prison time, and this is an outlet for that. Either way, I think it's perfectly fine.

Benjamin Wood
Benjamin Wood

Exactly

this is where you stop
Yes, this is where the law requires you to stop. Except we're not really talking law here, the law isn't rocket science as you correctly say. We all know the law.

The point is, why would someone be into a 14 year old? Why would someone be into a loli? Does it make sense? Is it real or just a larp internet fantasy that never manifests irl? etc

Nathan Sanchez
Nathan Sanchez

the point is that it's fucked up that she can "consent"

She can't. That's the point.

So if you're unsure, don't stick it in. Bang 80 year olds, never run into this issue ever again.

If you're going to "roll the dice" with this shit. You're forfeiting the right to go "the system is bullshit" No, numbnuts, you rolled snake eyes, hope it was worth it.

Owen Bailey
Owen Bailey

Escapism because cute and innocent during adolescent angsty years, at the same time as normal development of human sexuality. This led to mixing the two feelings up because I was too young to tell the difference. Mix that with society telling people that the nice tits and ass of a 15/16yo is "pedo", which led to more confusion. After years of seeing the nature of how people are in normieville, threads on here, even certain onions, and looking at the concept as a whole by peoples' stories and the news, I've been able to make this distinction. That is: cute shit is cute and adorable, and tits and ass are sexy. And that the west is entirely uncomfortable with sexuality to the point of being unhealthy not only for them, but especially for the kids they pretend to try to help (but actually just protecting their own feelings).

Also, sauce on that picture? I want it without the captioning.

Grayson Richardson
Grayson Richardson

Only case where I think loli (or shota too) should be illegal:

is posted in a place made for kids
(dont put ur porn on neopets.com)
is intended to show a child and groom them for sexual contact, re:this is what you do with an adult
it's art of a real child
(that's just creepy)

Noah Young
Noah Young

why would someone be into a 14 year old?

Biology

Why would someone be into a loli?

Mental illness/psychological trauma

Does it make sense?

Yes.

Is it real

To some

or just a larp internet fantasy that never manifests irl?

To others.

Look if you want to discuss a very specific topic pick one. I can't really umbrella term this bitch, too many variables.

Juan Morales
Juan Morales

Wanting to diddle a kid in Imaginary Make-Believe Land is perfectly fine, in my opinion
My best friend had a discussion with some psychMDs at the hospital he works at and they said that in most cases, things we fantasize about have very little in common with what gives us the kick and what we actually push in reality. So your opinion is solid.

Daniel Nguyen
Daniel Nguyen

Why do we have to pretend that sexual contact is harmful to people under a certain age?

Thomas Lee
Thomas Lee

Because it is. Have you not seen what I've been saying about being sexually abused? It basically fucked up my life.

Jose Thompson
Jose Thompson

It was happening for thousands of years before, it stopped recently. Mainly to stop abuse. Not that we'd be going back, but someome is gonna fuck it up, without a doubt, if it happens.

Eli Watson
Eli Watson

Actual factuals

Hebephilia is becoming just as abundant in my fantasies though. Still prefer 15-19 year olds though

Connor Jenkins
Connor Jenkins

The key thing here is that being ID'd at a bar is the closest you COULD come to being sure with her. Maybe agreeing to bang her again after makes this a bad example,

The fucked up part is that even if you DIDN'T agree, you said "no way I'm out of here" the moment she said "sorry I have social studies in the morning and I forgot to write my paper on rocket surgery" , she could still put the blame on you (when I think seeing someone's ID is the closest you can come to verifying their identity, even knowing those can be easily faked, wtf else are u supposed to do? cut her leg off and count the rings?)

Lincoln Williams
Lincoln Williams

Incorrect. Lung trauma is a common occurance for people who go out like that. Lung explodes in chest or something. Extreme pain for 30 minutes, followed by death.

Jayden Lopez
Jayden Lopez

She can't. That's the point.
Oh come on now fam, she LEGALLY can't. Just as she legally fucking CAN decide whether or not she wants to be a boy. You kidding me? She's able to consent about life altering surgeries but she's too immature to listen to her bio clocks? Strongly disagree.

Jace Brown
Jace Brown

That's the conclusion that most readily presents itself, but it's actually not supported by the science. Scratching the itch does not, in most cases, make the itch stronger, but rather curbs the appetite. In the same way, psychos who play violent video games are less likely to actually go out and murder people.

Isaiah Turner
Isaiah Turner

Not sure why I ended both sentences with "though". I'll rectify that by posting more Millie.

Matthew Young
Matthew Young

What makes you think that all sex is abuse?

Jackson Morgan
Jackson Morgan

replying to my own post kill me, but I guess this is also a little bit more about what to do in case of false reports or how to prove (normally dubious) consent, and that's an issue unrelated to the question I asked so I'm gonna end that comment train here personally (you guys keep going if you want i dont give a fuck)

Elijah Miller
Elijah Miller

wtf else are u supposed to do?

STOP BANGING JAILBAIT

If you want to risk it with young women. That's the risk part of the equation is the possibility of you utterly being fucked by the long dick of the law. No one is arguing that the system is perfect. You need to be the one to realize a perfect system cannot exist.

Kevin Taylor
Kevin Taylor

literally the shitty argument that out of touch mothers have been making since violent video games have been a thing. there is absolutely ZERO science backing this. there is however multiple statistics that will find the counter of this statement to be true.

Lucas Martinez
Lucas Martinez

All those topics are closely related with bread theme and each user leans on discussing a different one. Like for instance some focus on the law aspect of it, some on the morals, some on their own traumas, some on the sociological impact sexual liberation has had, etc.

Evan Peterson
Evan Peterson

What if we stopped putting people in prison when they haven’t hurt anyone?

Christian James
Christian James

why are you /b/edophiles into loli?

Nigga.

I`ve been here for a very long time.

I can fap to anything.

Logan Rivera
Logan Rivera

Just as she legally fucking CAN decide whether or not she wants to be a boy.

She can't.

Dominic Smith
Dominic Smith

Cool idea.

Got a magical crystal ball or some absolute truths to help aid the process?

Alexander Hall
Alexander Hall

Sorry but I just pulled off google, seems like sauce comes with text (or has been buried by that pic) but I'd say just erase the text and save tbh

Samuel Jones
Samuel Jones

Need to start with a crumb somewhere.

Daniel Nelson
Daniel Nelson

All sex with a child is abuse. I'm saying child because you didn't specify what ''under a certain age'' pertained. I was abused as a child and it was terrible. The end. Having sex with children is harmful to them.

There are people with different mentalities, upbringings and social contexts, so it may vary, but to be sure, having sex with ANYONE under the age of consent is wrong.

Just like how expiring dates in products aren't exact. It may be something like that. You never know when exactly a person is ready for being responsible for their decisions, so sticking to the pre-established rules is the better thing to do for most.

Camden Wright
Camden Wright

Exactly.

Cooper Thomas
Cooper Thomas

you're truly a stronger man than I. Godspeed.

Michael Hill
Michael Hill

STOP BANGING JAILBAIT
But the question he posed referred to the fact you can't say 100% beyond all reasonable doubt which girl IS jailbait. She might be fully legal. She may lie or fake her ID. There's a page even when you can guess ages of women, you'll be wrong 50% of the times, even though you're into most of them.

Mason Gray
Mason Gray

>>753163931
People don’t die from having sex. Touching someone in a way that feels good isn’t comparable to fucking drunk driving.

Christian Reed
Christian Reed

Not gonna keep arguing w/ this issue but I agree with this guy, fantasy is harmless and touching a kid irl is wrong.

What are you lolifags thoughts on people trying to make pedophilia a sexuality/religion?

I think we found one of em.

Eli Stewart
Eli Stewart

I was raped, therefore all sex is rape
Do you realize how silly you’re being?

Brayden Rivera
Brayden Rivera

If you think that there are 0 physical repercussions to having vaginal sex with a prepubescent child then you are actually a fucking moron.

Jackson Nguyen
Jackson Nguyen

I suppose you're unfamiliar with the latest legislation in Toronto (or where was it), where kids can be taken from their own families if the environment is deemed unsupportive of their 'sexual orientation'.

Chase Cook
Chase Cook

referred to the fact you can't say 100% beyond all reasonable doubt which girl IS jailbait.

Yes you can't

So if you wish to avoid this problem you need to avoid young pussy. Even better, get to know them for a week or so before you stick it in. There's no way she can con you for that long. This issue is exclusive to one night stands and it has a very simple solution.

Stop doing that shit.

a. bang older women
b. wait a few days until you're sure of her age
c. roll the dice and let jesus take the wheel

There's no better method of dealing with this. Changing the laws to accommodate this one insignificant wrinkle is not realistic and is a waste of time to discuss it.

Brayden Sanchez
Brayden Sanchez

>>753163931
Same can be said of 18 - early 20s as many people have weird first encounters and are traumatized because of it.

Frontal lobe stops developing at 25 too..Just throwing that out there...

David Hughes
David Hughes

Hi there
I just want to inform that I just had an epiphany

Blake Gonzalez
Blake Gonzalez

It’s funny how everyone automatically reads “sex” as “penetrative sex where the adult is a man and the child is a girl”.

Michael Ortiz
Michael Ortiz

Still not a lolifucker but she's cute af, who is she (I would like to see her in some clothing. any clothing)

Brandon Butler
Brandon Butler

promote gay pedophilia guys it's about equality.

Jackson Cox
Jackson Cox

People who think lolicon are all pedophiles are like people who think Muslims are all terrorists.

Gabriel Walker
Gabriel Walker

That's not what he said faggot. He said that he was ABUSED AS A CHILD and that it was terrible. Therefore child abuse is terrible.

Now go ahead and link us that (((jewish study))) that states ''child sex is fine, it's the social stigma goy!'' so I can bash it down again.

Jason Jackson
Jason Jackson

Lolicon is just the Japanese word for pedophile

Aaron Rivera
Aaron Rivera

That bill isn't about consent. That bill is about parents brainwashing their kids into a pigeon-hole. If someone wants to go through with transgender transition in Canada they still have to wait until they're of age.

James James
James James

I know I'm being a dumbass for taking the bait, but I just have to.

Not all sex is abuse. Not because I was abused, does that mean ''all sex'' is abuse. Did you not read what I wrote? Do you have a cognitive impariment or maybe you're a 12 yo? Maybe you're 12 and want to have sex, thus you're defending your position?

Well, any way it is, sex with a child is abuse. A child is not mature enough to take a decision of that magnitude. It's not an opinion, it's a fact. Children who are made to believe they were co-participants in their abuse are pretty much the norm, and this can be emotionally crippling to some. This is also the reason why most don't share their experience. Most feel responsible, thus guilt and shame.

It's just like that. It's simple. Not saying fantasies are wrong. Hell, I can fap to loli animu porn, but irl kid-molesting is wrong.

Brody Robinson
Brody Robinson

So what is your suggestion? Where is the line drawn? I'm genuinely curious to hear what you have to say.

Elijah Allen
Elijah Allen

Just to show this from a different light.

When I was 28 I was pursued sexually by an 11 year old very aggressively for about 8 months.

It started innocently which made me think it was just harmless puppy love but escalated gradually making it difficult to become aware of how serious it was.

I know how i handled the situation but what do you all believe to be the correct course of action?

Oliver Ortiz
Oliver Ortiz

c. roll the dice and let jesus take the wheel
lost

But yes you're right, besides I'm doing these things already and I never one night stand not even with rotten 30 year olds.

Isaiah Moore
Isaiah Moore

oh, I was male, 11 year old was a girl.

Thomas Cook
Thomas Cook

What does child abuse have to do with child sex? People having loving and mutually enjoyable sex all the time, why should it become impossible below age 16, or whatever your state says? We know that middle schoolers are having sex with each other, we know that four-year-old girls are masturbating, why do we pretend that sex is bad for kids?

Samuel Gray
Samuel Gray

Not into children, but certainly into underage gurls age 10-18. It acts on my unconsious mind and I cant help it. That sweet developing body just ripe for perversion.

Dominic Thomas
Dominic Thomas

Look let's make a general rule for consent.

Is the person capable of propositioning you for sex in the same way you propositioned them?

IE are they conscious, aware of where they are/who you are (re: not drugged out of their mind), aware what sex is and what it entails, generally willing to fuck you or attracted to you?

If the other person can ask you "hey, wanna fuck?" without any prodding on your part,

it's consent.

Pretty much ALL CHILDREN couldn't do that, and if a kid does try to ask for sex, call the fucking police and make sure nobody has touched that kid. Don't just continue touching that kid. Two wrongs don't make a right.

How hard is it to now touch kids?

Zachary Lee
Zachary Lee

you would be surprised when one is actively trying to fuck you.

Henry Nguyen
Henry Nguyen

Refer her to a therapist or guidance counselor and try to find out if she was sexually abused/groomed by an adult

Luis Cruz
Luis Cruz

for being interested in sex? That seems pretty unhealthy.

Bentley Edwards
Bentley Edwards

If you're talking about the surgical aspect specifically then ok, I don't know. But they are apparently considered capable of deciding about it early on without being stopped.

16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5P_WX2Gq_A

David Morales
David Morales

How hard is it to now touch kids?

I'm a faggot and I've made a terrible mistake w/ my typing.

Now that's what I call pedophilia.

Cameron Bell
Cameron Bell

Thanks anyway. Glad its not a gradient background

Brandon Howard
Brandon Howard

Dude there are crazier people out there who prefer little cartoon ponies

Michael Russell
Michael Russell

If it was as serious as you say, you can bet your ass she has been abused. Most girls who are victims to child abuse grow up with a feeling of ''worthlessness'' or ''filthiness'' which makes them devaluate themselves and sleep around a lot (not that sleeping around is inherently demeaning or anything, it's just how it happens), and a child is not supposed to seek (or, sometimes, even know of it, but 11 is an age where you know, I guess), so if a girl THAT young was seeking sex with you, an adult male, that's a clear pointer. I don't know how you handle it, but if you didn't notice that... well, it's not like I can blame you, but you should do something about it if you can (and if you didn't). Don't know how close you are to the girl or her family, but you could investigate a bit and try to help her.

Levi Flores
Levi Flores

How hard is it to now touch kids?
Not very hard if you brought a stun gun.

Ryan Gomez
Ryan Gomez

She was in no way ever abused. She was just genuinely attracted to me and wanted to be in a relationship with me and wanted it to be physical.

Knew her family very well.

Her mother was open about sex but in no way a degenerate.

Gabriel Ward
Gabriel Ward

holy shit dude took me this long to realize but isn't that just the plot of Kodomo no Jikan, aka some lolifag show that got banned on tvtropes or wikipedia or some shit?

Hudson Allen
Hudson Allen

we japan now

Aiden Rodriguez
Aiden Rodriguez

I cant tell the difference between my 10yo old mind and my 22yo mind. All I know is that at that age all I wanted to do was fuck and be fucked. You should sex up.

Daniel Gutierrez
Daniel Gutierrez

Deets

Julian Peterson
Julian Peterson

I like that artist

Landon Perry
Landon Perry

actually, I should say she fell in love with me, not just simply was attracted to me.

Blake Morgan
Blake Morgan

ho whyd you come to a thread asking "why are u a lolicon"

Owen Gray
Owen Gray

What does child abuse have to do with child sex?
I don't fucking know faggot, you are the one who took his 'abuse' comment and strawmanned it into all sex.

we know that four-year-old girls are masturbating
Sauce out of curiosity mostly. I want more material to debunk.

Two wrongs don't make a right
I agree and that's why I've never touched a kid nor do I feel like doing it, besides I believe that they aren't mentally capable of serious decisions until they enter at least teenagehood where they can take decisions, just bad ones. But they can.

Anyway thanks for the chat I'm super tilted at fucking captchas and will take a break.

Jonathan Barnes
Jonathan Barnes

If it’s consensual and not harmful it should be legal. Why should age factor into it? If you want to gently masturbate your infant to help it get to sleep, I don’t see anything wrong with it. It’s a hell of a lot better than circumcision if you ask me.

Isaiah Foster
Isaiah Foster

Are you sure? Idk, man, that stuff happens all the time and where no one notices. You could talk to the girl in private and ask her, try to look for signs that it's happened. Maybe I'm too distrustful, but it DID happen to me by a cousing whom we (me and my family, particularly my mom) trusted very much, which left my mom devastated because she feels responsible for ''letting him in''.

Well, anyway, if she was genuinely interested in you and sex in general, tell her to keep it in her pants until she grows up, and that you'll accept her once she's an adult. She'll eventually grow out of it.

If she doesn't by then, well... profit, I guess?

Brody Lewis
Brody Lewis

I was into that until you went into toddler/newborn territory. The line has to be drawn somewhere.

Alexander King
Alexander King

I like the petite-but-mature loli.
Even in anime, you can tell the difference between a loli and a kid.

Loli is a body type, not an age. This is everyone's first mistake in understanding it.
Pedos are pedos, don't fuck it up for the rest of us like how the news blames video games for mentally ill people killing others.

Brandon Davis
Brandon Davis

this has all already happened years ago, so you do not have to approach it as if you are giving me advice.

I am completely positive of all the details though.

I think what this is highlighting is that you may be somewhat projecting your own insecurities making it difficult to see scenarios objectively.

Cooper Flores
Cooper Flores

Hahaha well, I've read quite a few chapters of that manga and actually kinda liked it, mostly because of the protrayal of the characters' emotional states, but yeah, that's total lolifag shit. Not gonna even sugarcoat it. I liked it, but it's clear it was made by a lolicon, for lolicons.

Don't know if the plot goes exactly like that, but it'd make sense if it was like what I wrote.

Jaxson Rivera
Jaxson Rivera

I love the sex appeal of lolicon images/characters.

I do not like children. Neither sexually or even at all to be honest. They are fucking annoying. And so I agree people who have the urge to approach kids sexually are mentally fucked.

But to reiterate, I love fictional lolis

Does that make me a pedophile?

Carson Richardson
Carson Richardson

No it doesnt. Sexual touching is healthy, natural and pleasurable. It doesn’t need to be restricted anymore than hugs and kisses.

Brody Rivera
Brody Rivera

petite but mature honestly seems 100% fine by me

plus
Loli is a body type, not an age.

thanks dude that's a pretty easy way to explain it actually case closed.

Josiah Morris
Josiah Morris

can I come over to your house and slap your nuts asking for a friend

Christian Reyes
Christian Reyes

Nah, I really was talking about sexual child abuse. I was sexually abused for a good 8-9 years (sporadically, but fairly constantly).

Jackson Anderson
Jackson Anderson

Holy shit.....

Easton Barnes
Easton Barnes

yea, once the captchas hit sentience I am out.

Anthony Adams
Anthony Adams

it is a pretty wild and emotional time of my life that I am not sure I want to retell just so others can fap off to it.

William Williams
William Williams

because youre a faggy fuck

Hunter Russell
Hunter Russell

Okay you got me there.

Blake Mitchell
Blake Mitchell

So where is the line drawn on what is considered harmful? For the sake of the argument, I'm even willing to agree that masturbating your infant child to help it sleep should be legal and normal. Now where is the cutoff? When does it become harmful physically or mentally?

Brayden Jenkins
Brayden Jenkins

It depends, how cute are you?

Ethan Price
Ethan Price

Perhaps you're right, but I'm saying it mostly because, ever since I came out with it, I've been exposed to the whole ''abuse community'' to call it something. I've gone to three different psychologists (mostly because of moving) and I've heard of a lot of cases. It really is like that.
My own shit even ended up with my mom coming out with the fact that she was once molested by someone in her childhood, too.
Shit happens, bruh, and fairly often.

Also, sorry, I knew it had already happened, but didn't know how long ago that was. I was just ''giving advice'' because I know what it's like being there. In that sense, I guess I really was projecting myself (though not really insecurities).

Carter Anderson
Carter Anderson

there is no consent in the situation you described.
None.
Not even misinformed consent.

James White
James White

Really the only way that a chick wont have breasts that will break her spine

Elijah Williams
Elijah Williams

Nah, brah. Little girls are lolis, too and there's no denying that.

Elijah Walker
Elijah Walker

nigga im on Sup Forums

Michael Wood
Michael Wood

I guess within the abuse community though, you aren't exposed very often to people who had willing and consensual sex with each other and enjoyed the experience so you have nothing in your past telling you that it happens.

Not that I am saying it happened, just commenting on why projection is a thing.

Jackson Taylor
Jackson Taylor

Yeah, don't. I was curious. AM curious, but that's just it. I don't have a serious reason for wanting to know (not to fap, though), so I didn't ask.

Ryan Collins
Ryan Collins

yeaaaaaaaaaaah judging by your later comments in this thread I'm guessing you touched a kid. Which is pretty much the exact opposite point of this (which was "why are you interested in this chinese cartoon") but yknow

Jordan Collins
Jordan Collins

I like loli's because
cute
innocent
soft
tight unspoiled cunny
sex is a big deal to them
get flustered
simply
you're their biggest for a long time
incapable of stopping you
succumb to lewd
flat is sexy
despite being young, have birth giving hips already

reality doesn't do it for me
disgusting
retarded
someones fucking kid
smell gross
don't look sexy
protect that smile
only real lolis that have done for me has to be is LB and only in specific outfits
something "taboo" or "wrong" is a big trigger for me too. but I'm not attracted to kids
also only girls do it for me in anime and only fantasy age from 12 to 16.

tl;dr - youth is attractive

Michael Collins
Michael Collins

I guess that's about right. It's just that the whole ''little girl falling in love with you and SERIOUSLY wanting to have sex with you, and what's more, without having being abused'' sounded so much like a shitty ero manga plot, lol. I guess it really does happen.

Elijah Nguyen
Elijah Nguyen

sex is a big deal to them
ok just stop
you're their biggest for a long time
cuck
incapable of stopping you
?
PIC RELATED
literally you

Austin Ramirez
Austin Ramirez

I never said anything to suggest I touched a kid. I purposely have not eluded to anything regarding how the situation ended.

If anything I have eluded to the fact that I was touched by a kid.

The whole experience was very trying.

People think that it is just as simple as it is a kid and you don't do it but you have no idea what it is like when someone is pursuing you for a long time and acting in a way that suggests something way beyond what you normally think of. You start battling consciously and subconsciously about what you are feeling.

I guarantee everyone here merely read it as 11 years old and immediately affixed a certain demeanor and personality to it. I can assure you that it wasn't that simple. If it were then this situation never would have arisen.

Sebastian Davis
Sebastian Davis

pic literally you
oh yes

Dominic Edwards
Dominic Edwards

Got pretty much everything right besides the dom/sub part because it can go either way a lot of people would like them to be sub because for example the images of them being picked up and folded so the mans arms are unded their legs and over their head, you know the position, and on the other hand there is people who like the dom lolis who are outgoing and try really hard despite their lack of experience and learn while they are going and its really cute

Jordan Sanders
Jordan Sanders

Intercourse can be harmful because of diseases, pregnancy or just being too big for the hole. Anything that would likely result in injury should be illegal. Continuing something that is clearly causing pain should also be illegal. Preteens probably shouldn’t be allowed to participate in masochism.

William Allen
William Allen

We should also ban violent videogames because it makes people violent.

Jose Bailey
Jose Bailey

Do you not remember how horny you were when you were 12?

Kayden Carter
Kayden Carter

are we done here?

Julian Martinez
Julian Martinez

Nah, not really. Or... well, now that I think about it...
Fuck, man. Stop being right or I'll cry.

In all seriousness, though, it still sounds pretty unlikely, haha. Not saying it didn't happen, just explaining the reason why I thought so.

Ryder Sanders
Ryder Sanders

1) I like some loli to fap to from time to time
2) I dislike little girls
Therefore one doesn't make the other true.

Kayden Gray
Kayden Gray

I hope so. Either way, I am. Tired of spotting all the pictures of bikes.

Lincoln Thompson
Lincoln Thompson

The only solution is a cure. Gene therapy.

Daniel Sanchez
Daniel Sanchez

all these cars, roads and signals...

Blake Bennett
Blake Bennett

Lolis are not little girls, lolis only look similar to little girls for people who have trouble differentiating fantasy from reality. People like that do definitely need to be locked up in this modern age of violent and sexual media.

For real though this is like a twofold issue. Lolicon media does not push people towards becoming predators, sexual repression and abuse pushes people towards becoming predators. Releasing your pent up sexual urges in some harmless way is only a positive thing.
Secondly, lolicon media does in some cases satisfy the urges of pedophiles, but not everybody who enjoys lolicon media is a pedophile. Lolis superficially resemble adolescents, but anime artstyles are all about abstraction and exaggerated fantasy.
Lolis do not actually look like real children, lolis do not actually act like real children. The loli body type is not real, it's just as much a stylized exaggerated mess as harem comedy heroines with crazy colored ass-length hair and massive Z-cup honkers.

Ian Smith
Ian Smith

shoujo ramune

Benjamin Peterson
Benjamin Peterson

Lolis are literally drawings of children. They look like children, that is their reason for existing. There’s nothing wrong with being a pedophile, you don’t have to do gymnastics to avoid calling yourself one.

Alexander Wood
Alexander Wood

pedophiles in 2018
amirite?

Henry Wood
Henry Wood

300 en no otsukiai

Angel Bell
Angel Bell

So, this is a bit off topic but not really... anyone know if that swim instructor ever finished that green text?

If so, post?

Henry Ward
Henry Ward

where can I find lolis in real life? I fucking need to know user.

Sebastian Smith
Sebastian Smith

Little girls are lolis, why are lolicons so adamant on denying that? The whole point of lolis existing is to satisfy the lolicon tendencies. Did you know that lolicon is the japanese word for ''pedophile'' (or the closest to it)?
So you like 2D LITTLE GIRLS, big deal. You don't have to try and justify lolicons. It's not wrong to like whatever the hell you like as long as you don't harm anyone.

Adrian Carter
Adrian Carter

Lolis are nothing like actual children in the same way that anthropomorphic furries are nothing like actual animals.
Lolicons are like tamer furfags.

Anthony Diaz
Anthony Diaz

this

Daniel Hill
Daniel Hill

At an elementary school. Or maybe a middle school if you’re into older lolis.

Camden Jackson
Camden Jackson

The situation where an individual enjoys lolicon media but is otherwise turned off by real world children is extremely common and throws off your entire point. They're not the same and considering them to be the same is maintaining a level of ignorance of this whole issue.
Anime is the Japanese word for cartoons, but that doesn't mean there isn't an important semantic distinction to be made.

Charles Peterson
Charles Peterson

Nice bait

Gavin Rogers
Gavin Rogers

no those aren't lolis, those are real people

Lucas Perez
Lucas Perez

Those are children. Stupid, gross, underdeveloped children.

Ian Flores
Ian Flores

That situation is called “being in denial”. It’s a lie men tell themselves to cope with the social stigma.

Andrew Ramirez
Andrew Ramirez

Or maybe it's an honest representation of their interests because they have a firm grasp on not only their cocks but on the separation between fantasy and reality like normal well-adjusted people.
They don't see lolis and children as interchangeable because they're distinct entities.

Caleb Perez
Caleb Perez

You mean stupid, sexy, underdeveloped children.

Jonathan Peterson
Jonathan Peterson

nothing about them is sexy user

Luke Martin
Luke Martin

Children aren't sexy they're wild little gremlins most of the time.

Jacob Hernandez
Jacob Hernandez

You know about the cunny, right?

Jason Nelson
Jason Nelson

No we mean a cure you fucking cianigger.

Evan Sanders
Evan Sanders

Dude, I know! I personally enjoy lolis, too. I know it's perfectly normal to like lolicon media and not children, that's me right here. I simply find it ludicrous that most lolicons tend to try to justify their fetishes by saying little girls (in lolicon media) are not lolis, like, what the fuck? Last time I checked, the term loli was originally associated with little girls and, later on, when it was adapted by the mainstream, it came to be a term to refer to a general body time (like a dude way up there said).

It's normal, I like lolis and I sometimes fap to loli hentai. I also don't feel sexually attracted to real children in the least.

Ethan Davis
Ethan Davis

body type*
Fuck these captchas.

Thomas Hill
Thomas Hill

cuz they r how and forbidden, u faggot

Tyler Clark
Tyler Clark

hot*

Nathaniel Parker
Nathaniel Parker

But the thing is, pedophilia and other paraphilias are only classified as such because they are deemed abnormal and harmful by definition. Compared in a vacuum, they aren't any different from other sexual orientations, it is a biological reaction that is not chosen and does not impair cognitive functions or mental abilities.

At this point it is important to stress that pedophilia as a philia does not relate to rape any more or less than being straight or gay, it only describes what they are attracted to.

But the problem comes with the social aspect; being different from the norm is defined as a disorderd when it causes distress or difficulty in normal life, which in a pedophile's case is usually due to external influence, the extreme hate and disgust people show regardless of any wrongdoing. For being born different, no matter what you do, you are deemed a monster without human rights and constantly reminded that no matter where you go, no one anywhere will ever accept you and most will be openly hostile to you and it's what you deserve, it's your own fault even though you didn't choose it, don't want it and can't change it.
This doesn't do much good for one's well being, but the philia itself isn't the cause, just the trigger.

When people talk about wanting to classify pedophilia as a sexuality, people for some reason think it means wanting to make fucking kids legal and acceptable. That is not what it is about, rape is not legal even if your sexuality is.
The aim of the cause is to make being a pedophile not a death sentence, to give the people who are in distress the ability to get help without it ruining their life, to allow people born different the goodwill to live in peace with themselves and the society like everyone should be able to.
It's not about legalizing rape god damnit.

Andrew Murphy
Andrew Murphy

No one wants to legalize rape, but some of us want to legalize consensual sex

Ryder Murphy
Ryder Murphy

It's not consensual. Even Lolita knew that.

You take advantage of their innocence, and sadistically absorb it as your own so you can get off if you fuck them.

Adam Perez
Adam Perez

I love lolis/kids because they look so cute and very exprrsive during sex

Henry Martin
Henry Martin

Rape and happy sex are more intense (Im not in to rape)

Jackson Powell
Jackson Powell

They cry and scream for pleasure.
They are fucking sensitive.
That is amazing, when you did that makes you addict.

Luis Russell
Luis Russell

killing people with .22lr

Jacob Reed
Jacob Reed

The whole point of Lolita was that Dolly wasn’t innocent. Humbert believed in Freud’s “latency stage” bullshit up until his first night with her. He wasn’t prepared for her to want it too, that’s why it turned out so badly.

Juan Stewart
Juan Stewart

Well, I love all facts of lolis and 3DPDs, think about having a loli doing asmrs to you 24/7

Aaron Brooks
Aaron Brooks

Satanists are in to rape.
Best white mahou are in to happy sex what is censored and ilegal.
Governs made rape legal in the shadows.

Jason Morris
Jason Morris

List of (me)s

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