Is being vegan a true spiritual path?

Parker Brown
Parker Brown

Is being vegan a true spiritual path?

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2933506/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2933506/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2933506/
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/97/3/597.long
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2933506/
https://youtu.be/09m0B8RRiEE
Joshua Sanders
Joshua Sanders

Obviously yes. Everyone basically knows that vegan is the right thing to be. It's just that many meat eaters are too insecure or weak to actually manage it.

Caleb Reyes
Caleb Reyes

same fagging about your faggotry is a faggot move veggiefag
in your honor ill eat a steak

Liam Davis
Liam Davis

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Jack White
Jack White

Have a read over your post. Ask yourself, do you come across like an educated, respectable individual. Or do you come across like a retard?

Jace Carter
Jace Carter

Agreed, it takes intent from the being level.

David Nelson
David Nelson

The cold weather.. Those poor animals shivering in the cold with no where warm to be.

Anthony Young
Anthony Young

Retard detected

Isaac Hughes
Isaac Hughes

Do you think your on the right thread?

James Roberts
James Roberts

I'm don't think so. To me it's simply a preference in food, i have absolutely no spiritual feelings about it.

Jose Reyes
Jose Reyes

sure kid

Luke Walker
Luke Walker

No or else all other living things would be vegan. Some eat meat, some eat vegetables, and others are omnivores. If the moral question is to not hurt animals then you should go kill all felines and other carnivores and omnivores. Being vegan is just another reason to feel self important. If you were born in a 3rd world country starving as a child I'm sure you will eat meat and anything you can. Instead these vegan faggots are products of our abundant resources and don't understand that eating is for survival not for ethical reasons.

Nathaniel Hughes
Nathaniel Hughes

Trying to achieve spiritual enlightenment through real-world actions is an anachronism.

First you find your spiritual center, then your actions change to match that center more closely.

There's no magic pill, special food, scent, or clothing, or interesting book to make you a better person.

Andrew Gomez
Andrew Gomez

Its not the right path for a guy onless you can stay away from soy.

Easton Reyes
Easton Reyes

Would you like to contribute anything of value.

Asher Johnson
Asher Johnson

This is a bacon thread isn't it?

Kevin Hall
Kevin Hall

Animals feel pain
thus you should go vegan

We know animals feel pain. Everything the term animal applies to feels pain. Give us an actual reason.

Ethan Cox
Ethan Cox

your assumption is that people are only vegan because it harms animals, when there are many, many other reasons to not eat meat, or to eat less meat. Personal health, environmental damage, corporate dominance over basic bodily functions as a means of populace control...all good reasons to find food substituting for meat.

Grayson Ross
Grayson Ross

Shut up faggot

Nathan Richardson
Nathan Richardson

I do feel that there are a lot of militant vegans out there, that would like to impose their philosophy on others.
I'm not one of them.

Hudson Hill
Hudson Hill

So you wouldn't mind if I molested your child? You know, because she's going to feel pain anyway?

Christopher Morris
Christopher Morris

it is now

Landon Lewis
Landon Lewis

Yea, vegans haven't seen THAT before. Most non-vegan I know won't even touch that shit. It's the most unhealthy "food" you can eat

Luis Kelly
Luis Kelly

The reason is that animals feel pain and we should not create pain.

Noah Carter
Noah Carter

Good point

Lucas Jenkins
Lucas Jenkins

insecurity

John Taylor
John Taylor

And this is a good marker for, spiritual growth.

Kevin Reed
Kevin Reed

Someone said bacon thread?

Ian Nguyen
Ian Nguyen

Personal health
guise being vegan is healthy that's why I need supplements because my food doesn't have what my body needs
Kek

Levi Sullivan
Levi Sullivan

Way to misrepresent my point bro. Go to a rapist and tell them they shouldn't rape because animals feel pain. Now realise how retarded that argument is

Aiden Gray
Aiden Gray

You are talking about diseases or illnesses that require vegan diets or just not having enough money for meat. The question was does it bring enlightenment. I just tied it to nature and how they do it. Sure enlightenment is subjective so it was an open ended question but I like seeing how nature does it and compare it to us.

Bentley Lopez
Bentley Lopez

Studies have found vegans are significantly healthier than non-vegans. Supplements are indeed the healthiest way to get certain things. For example you can get B12 from supplements, or you can get it from meat, which leaves you with obesity, diabetes, and heart disease.

Isaiah Taylor
Isaiah Taylor

You're just stating the same thing 3 times, we know animals feel pain.

Julian Clark
Julian Clark

"You shouldn't rape because women feel pain"

That sounds like a fine argument tbh

Nicholas Ortiz
Nicholas Ortiz

Then you should be vegan.

Josiah Mitchell
Josiah Mitchell

No. It's the opposite.

Xavier Perry
Xavier Perry

Animal agriculture is the largest cause of land, water, and air pollution in the world

Humans have no biological need to consume animal products, animals feel pain, and humans have moral agency. When causing harm to others isn't necessary for survival it's no longer morally good or neutral

Animal products are the prime cause of obesity and cholesterol related deaths, they're unhealthy for consumption and linked to increased cancer risk and many other illnesses

Unless you live in a small-ass town, (I live in Iowa and still get this shit) you can buy substitutes that taste the same. Beyond burger, kite hill, so delicious, and miyokos cheeses, gardein has everything from fish fillets to orange chicken, there are dozens of plant based milks (even the national dairy council predicts by 2021 50% of all milk sales will be from vegan alternatives. I know many people who even eat meat but won't drink dairy milk)

Nolan Morales
Nolan Morales

Pro tip: Your b12 supplements don't work and being vegan is not healthy

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2933506/

Jackson Flores
Jackson Flores

it's not a true spiritual path, but it's a more ethical and environmentally friendly way to live. vegetarians and vegans would have an easier time presenting the facts and recommending replacing a few meat meals a week with vegetarian/vegan choices instead of guilt tripping people.

Benjamin Cox
Benjamin Cox

No, something must be wrong with said path due to the generally insufferable nature of those people. Vegans are the only people who can have a moral objection to hunting without being a hypocrite, at least you have that.

Luis Thomas
Luis Thomas

But you dont have to eat meat or are you a poor faggot? So why are you bringing survival into the equation? Are you close to starvation or are you just spouting strawman shit arguments to lie to yourself? Im a meat eater but im not a compulsive fucking liar I know what im doing is wrong how about you user?

Alexander Flores
Alexander Flores

This is called a "gish gallop." Lacking any sound argument you've decided to send out a flurry of unrelated ones knowing that it will be a lot of energy to refute all.

For a start though, you are committing a fallacy in your appeal to nature. Noting that other animals do something does not mean that we have a moral pass to do it also.

Andrew Ortiz
Andrew Ortiz

You don't need supplements unless you go raw and eat no processed foods. This is a fact based on physicians reporting patient data - non-vegans have more nutrient deficiencies than vegans.

Gavin Carter
Gavin Carter

Humans have no biological need to consume animal products
Really? What about some essential vitamins, amino acids and minerals

increased cancer risk and many other illnesses
The sun is linked to cancer, so you better not go outside ever

Landon Gonzalez
Landon Gonzalez

Milo Stewart detected

Matthew Russell
Matthew Russell

It's not because we already know women feel pain. The term women implies an adult female and adult females feel pain. You are just restating the same thing.

Lucas Ross
Lucas Ross

Man-children can't be told they're wrong. That's only a sign you're winning. They're incapable of intellectually arguing so they post meat like vegans haven't seen it before, or eaten it on the past. I don't understand it personally, it's like plugging your ears and humming to yourself as a response in a debate.

Leo Richardson
Leo Richardson

sauce

Brody Harris
Brody Harris

choosing between a heart attack or not having all nutrients in my body

Enjoy the cardiovascular problems you fat cunt

Ryan Hernandez
Ryan Hernandez

Human stomach could digest both vegetable and meat product. Such an asshole for not utilizing this gift!

Why dont you feed tiger or lion with vegetable? I bet they would have a healthy lifestyle and live happily forever after.

Sebastian Gutierrez
Sebastian Gutierrez

Pro tip: They do and it is

google "Micronutrient status and intake in omnivores, vegetarians and vegans in Switzerland"

Studies are almost unanimous in concluding that vegans have lower risk of all our biggest killers than meatcucks.

Ayden Harris
Ayden Harris

guise he ate meat he is going to have cardiovascular problems and is fat
Kek, how's your nervous system and cognition from get getting enough b12

Inb4 muh supplemen, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2933506/

Ryder White
Ryder White

Because they are not herbivores? Are you fucking retarded

Oliver Ortiz
Oliver Ortiz

ecological and ethical reasons with eating meat are good reasons to go *vegetarian* but veganism is utter nonsense. we keep chickens in our yard and i can assure you they are well taken care of and whatever the chicken equivalent of happy is. they have space to run around, stuff to scratch at, lots of table scraps to eat. the idea that consuming their eggs is somehow immoral or exploitative is insane. it is a mutually beneficial relationship. maybe a vegan would suggest we set all the world's chickens free? that would certainly be good for them. the same thing can be said about milk or butter or any other animal product that does not require slaughter of the animal. if the cow or goat or chicken is well taken care of, then this is a productive caring relationship between man and animal. veganism argues otherwise and, more broadly, it assumes that man cannot have a symbiotic caring relationship with the animal world; that we should leave the world as wilderness, in a sense. it's ridiculous

Adam Smith
Adam Smith

he clings to one study

Sorry but for every study you find there are 10 on the vegans side here. Time to call it a day.

Kevin Wood
Kevin Wood

Essential? So...despite vegans having less nutrient deficiencies than non-vegans, lower obesity rates, lower rates of diabetes and cancer, I guess they're all going to die because "you need to eat meat?" Unless you don't understand what essential means.

Logical fallacy... I suppose you're probably a smoker who says "were all going to die someday" How about you look up deaths from skin cancer as opposed to colon or pancreatic cancer? (The two most commonly linked with animal products)

James Martinez
James Martinez

Post link I'm not guessing what you read

Jason Murphy
Jason Murphy

implying im vegan because I say you're retarded

Nolan Brooks
Nolan Brooks

No faggot, you are eating. If you feel ethically wrong like you do then maybe you should be a vegan. It's not wrong to be a vegan but it doesn't make you better or "enlightened" as op is wondering. Stay on point block head.

William Turner
William Turner

I literally gave the name of the study. Google it.

meatcucks really are this intellectually deficient

Chase Taylor
Chase Taylor

guise me believe because I said it

Dylan Gonzalez
Dylan Gonzalez

I'm on a phone, and about to leave for work, Google that shit.

Nathaniel Edwards
Nathaniel Edwards

doesn't like someone's point of view so discredits it

You are the worst type of faggot.

Liam Moore
Liam Moore

guise I cant copy and past a link a read once

Luis Davis
Luis Davis

meatcucks wanting trigger warnings before getting debunked
kek

Ryan Miller
Ryan Miller

The meat chimpout is real

Jace Thompson
Jace Thompson

Is he talking about starving street shitters in india or is he talking to Sup Forums? I doubt starving people frequent Sup Forums you daft cunt.

Mason Gonzalez
Mason Gonzalez

Choosing brain damage and nervous damage over might might get cancer

Ryan Wood
Ryan Wood

using words like meatcuck when never making a point

Does it get lonely on that island you live in?

Jack Bell
Jack Bell

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2933506/

Liam Lee
Liam Lee

Omnivore here. The retards in this thread do not represent us. One thing I wonder though is what about free range animals? They have a better life than animals in the wild, so how is that immoral?

Chase Thompson
Chase Thompson

The vegan retardness is real, can't even link their own sauce

William Brooks
William Brooks

They why dont you utilize your fucking stomach? I repeat HUMAN STOMACH COULD DIGEST BOTH VEGETABLE AND MEAT PRODUCT!

Why didnt you wish to born as a cow or sheep? Earth would be a better place without a toxic like you!

Jonathan Rivera
Jonathan Rivera

1/5 die from heart attacks
40% of all people will get cancer in their life
worrying abouy b12 deficiency

How your education have failed you.

Ryan Fisher
Ryan Fisher

This thread, the butthurt.
I love steak as much as I love potatoes.
But I love steak and potatoes better.

“Everything in moderation, including moderation.” -- Oscar Wilde

Ethan Lee
Ethan Lee

this guy

Thomas Moore
Thomas Moore

can't even link their own sauce
Should be using spice related.

Parker Powell
Parker Powell

Because we were scavengers 12,000 years ago, ethical wrongdoings is forgiven because we are able to commit them? Are you fucking retarded?

Adam Hughes
Adam Hughes

This thread needs more bacon

Lincoln Hill
Lincoln Hill

How your education have failed you.
Kek
guise 40% of people will get cancer and it's all from meat
guise 1/5, or 20% of if i could do basic math, people die from heart attack and again it's from solely eating meat

Camden Baker
Camden Baker

Meat eaters are the strong, pinnacle of humanity
Get triggered by the existence of vegans

Oliver King
Oliver King

life feeds life, fuck off with your virtue signaling

Nathan King
Nathan King

I ran out of bacon porn.
How about a study in burger aerodynamics?

Jayden Howard
Jayden Howard

Pardon? Are you talking about yourself? How was your school kids? Doing good?

Please get some education. Putangina mo!

Justin Morales
Justin Morales

Do you shield yourself from knowledge? Even the meatcuck with the b12 links said that all meat eaters were prevalent in cancer and cardiovascular diseases. I would pay to see you read a book

Carson Morgan
Carson Morgan

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/97/3/597.long
vegans have a 38% reduced risk of heart disease than meat eaters

Dominic Ramirez
Dominic Ramirez

How do you know we're scavengers from 12,000 years ago? Any solid proves? Did you witness it? Any photo or video? If no please stop bullshitting around!

Justin Anderson
Justin Anderson

Hahah filipino trash no wonder a chink like yourself cant understand simple ethics. I feel more sympathy for cattle and worms than I feel for you yellow cunts. You cant speak english and it's the third language I got taught how about you? You speak anything else except filipino?

Jayden Lopez
Jayden Lopez

I can live with meat eaters, and take your well made point

Nolan Flores
Nolan Flores

yes but you were implying all cancer and heart attacks were because of meat

Sebastian King
Sebastian King

You mean except the unanimous articles and scientists that have proven it? It's a simple google away

Camden Brown
Camden Brown

Nyepong kontol gue anjiik! Cheebye!

Eli Barnes
Eli Barnes

And you implying all vegans have brain damage is what? Are you not seeing your double standard?

Dominic Baker
Dominic Baker

Hahaha fucking chink

Jack Lee
Jack Lee

Did they witness it? No isnt it. So it just a theory you faggot! Fyi I did my bachelor in pure science so please educate yourself before you educating people.

Landon Taylor
Landon Taylor

Do you think you'r in a safe space?

Julian Ortiz
Julian Ortiz

Maybe we can apply them on my Bacon Car

Charles Myers
Charles Myers

Im sure you are more educated than all other scientists, filipino pure science is like janitors in my country

Parker Jackson
Parker Jackson

See using stats properly is key. I didn't say 50% of people have brain damage (I'm making this number up) and implying the cause was veganism. Unlike you who implied all the heart attacks and cancer were from meat

Nathaniel Howard
Nathaniel Howard

Whats up Aussie! How many chinks have you molest this week?

Camden Cooper
Camden Cooper

Pfff you're funny af! Im Singaporean. Your racism was too deep! Please never missed your Sunday church.

Lincoln Barnes
Lincoln Barnes

Try philosophy

Aaron Richardson
Aaron Richardson

I'll take my chance with heart disease rather than brain and nervous system damage

Vegans have lower vitamin B12 concentrations, but higher folate concentrations, than vegetarians and omnivores. Half of the vegans were categorised as vitamin B12 deficient and would be expected to have a higher risk of developing clinical symptoms related to vitamin B12 deficiency
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2933506/

Justin Howard
Justin Howard

FYI I'm getting pulled pork for dinner tonight

Jose James
Jose James

This thread need even more bacon. And love, and a pinch of sage

Noah Diaz
Noah Diaz

you left out the most important part:
vegans who do not consume sufficient quantities of foods fortified with vitamin B12 such as some breakfast cereals, plant-based milks, soy products and yeast extract, or regularly take a vitamin B12 supplement, will have an increased risk of developing vitamin B12 deficiency.

you think you know things but you don't. The only thing you have proven is that you can eat poorly on any diet. You are still a lot less likely to die eating vegan even if you DON'T take b12 or eat anything that has it in it.

For OP, one of these threads almost 2 years ago made me go vegan and I like to thank whoever that was for changing my life for the better. Trolls are funny though keep it up guys were countin' on you to bump the thread ;)

Leo White
Leo White

I tried and became really poorly really quickly. Doctors asked me if I changed anything in my diet recently and I told her about my veganism, she gave me a tenner and told me to go buy some meat.

Jeremiah Barnes
Jeremiah Barnes

Then, basically, your only chances to survive your own choice is thanks to foods and supplements that not even exist in nature.

Vegans are byproduct of the Industry, and a artificial one, by the way. Thanks to make everything clear ;)

Kevin Morales
Kevin Morales

Ching chong ling ling long!

/b/thread/753911169#p753911169

Cameron Martinez
Cameron Martinez

Well said ignorance. Keep your stupidity for yourself and please dont spread it. Thank you very much.

David Bennett
David Bennett

You are still a lot less likely to die eating vegan even if you DON'T take b12 or eat anything that has it in it.
Id rather possible die from a heart attack then suffer from years of brain damage, losing my cognition and have irreversible damage done to my nervous system

Daniel Hall
Daniel Hall

Essential amino acids is a biological term. It means amino acids that you can only get through eating certain foods. Vegans tend to not get complete proteins because you have to know what foods have the essential amino acids they need and unfortunately they're not smart enough to figure this out as their brains have stopped functioning due to lack of nutrients and general retardation

Charles Wright
Charles Wright

it could be, but first you have to prove that spirits exist.

Andrew Moore
Andrew Moore

The only true spiritual path is through the Lord God and his son Jesus Christ.

Kevin Gomez
Kevin Gomez

No it's not. The only path you're on when being vegan is one of self righteousness and smug pretentiousness.

Liam Richardson
Liam Richardson

That old chestnut

Parker Perez
Parker Perez

You might need each other

Jackson Taylor
Jackson Taylor

old but good.

Joseph Allen
Joseph Allen

Whats up Aussie? How was your cangaroo's dick soup? Does it enough to make your brain cells connected?

Elijah Hernandez
Elijah Hernandez

Just had pork tenderloin with carrots and potatoes in crock pot yesterday. Top tier meal

Jayden Cruz
Jayden Cruz

I won't take your word for it...

Xavier Powell
Xavier Powell

Obvious answer is no.

For starters, veganism these days is generally used by people who feel incredibly self conscious about the harm they cause other living things to the point of absurdity. The mindset behind it is still completely created by the ego, which is what you should be attempting to avoid and get away from.

Secondly, there is nothing inherently spiritual about veganism. All you're doing is refusing to eat meat.

Additionally, it also helps very few animals, and isn't actually very healthy at all. The human body actually needs some proteins that only come from meat. It can run on plants only, but it won't work entirely the right way.

Grayson Wright
Grayson Wright

It was all going so well, then you ruined it.
(does that happen a lot to YOU)

Jackson Diaz
Jackson Diaz

I never made any claim that you need to take my word for. Can't prove that spirits exist therefor any thought process that starts with spirits as a base is inherently flawed.

Eli Smith
Eli Smith

It's a Question!
No such thing as obvious, try Subjective.

Asher Hernandez
Asher Hernandez

There you go, spirits again?

Cameron Hughes
Cameron Hughes

Spiritual path/meaning choices made with love......
Hope this is helpful to you.

Kevin Stewart
Kevin Stewart

the spooky kind not the fun kind.

Elijah Taylor
Elijah Taylor

user.... Erm.....
What's with the spooky stuff.

Chase Sullivan
Chase Sullivan

follow the chain of comments, has veganism rotted your malnourished brain?

OP asked if veganism was the spiritual path, and I pointed out that it could be assuming that spirits existed at all. because you know, spirits have to exist in order for something to be spiritual.

Aiden Evans
Aiden Evans

CHRIST ALMIGHTY, What the fuck has ghosts got to do with anything.

Wyatt Butler
Wyatt Butler

I can't make those words any more simple user, good luck in life. You'll probably need it.

Colton Scott
Colton Scott

Kindness compassion empathy,

David Flores
David Flores

doesn't know what an apex predator is

Wyatt Kelly
Wyatt Kelly

If you're not vegan, it doesn't count, no more ghosts.

Nathan Stewart
Nathan Stewart

don't just slap words onto something and hope they will stick. Spiritual literally means relating to or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things.

Thomas Morgan
Thomas Morgan

if you're not an omnivore than your words mean nothing. more ghosts please.

Brandon Smith
Brandon Smith

Slightly amusing

Christopher Nguyen
Christopher Nguyen

There dirivatives of love

Jonathan Stewart
Jonathan Stewart

you mean the chemical reaction in our brains we currently perceive as love? still has nothing to do with spoopy ghosts.

Oliver Morgan
Oliver Morgan

And what's love?
A spiritual path.

Matthew Gomez
Matthew Gomez

see

Ethan Barnes
Ethan Barnes

OMG, ghosts again....

Jack Bailey
Jack Bailey

Were you a farm animal in your previous life?

Luke Hernandez
Luke Hernandez

Ah! hold it right there, you'll need to prove reincarnation, and this analogy also relies on spirits being real so you'll have to prove that too.

Thomas Moore
Thomas Moore

You think you've got me don't you?
Try the word consciousness.....

Kevin Morales
Kevin Morales

Once you get vegans you'll automatically an atheist.

But vegetarian Indians are different cases cuz animals like cow and elephant are their god.

Owen Barnes
Owen Barnes

anaLOGy
Are Andy Sixx's logs vegan?

Colton Cruz
Colton Cruz

And what's love?
https://youtu.be/09m0B8RRiEE

Zachary Gomez
Zachary Gomez

You mean the fact that we can perceive the world around us proves that spirits exist? I don't think so. If you're talking about our ability to make decisions that's also a chemical reaction in our brains.

Lincoln Sanders
Lincoln Sanders

Isms are all belief traps

James Fisher
James Fisher

just wanted to clarify i wasn't attacking veganism, just the idea of spirituality in general. With a lot of effort and scientific know how veganism is sustainable, but that would automatically rule out these spiritualists.

Luke Allen
Luke Allen

You are trying, I'll give you that, chemical reactions Nah.

Aaron Fisher
Aaron Fisher

Mad because we know?

Liam Watson
Liam Watson

literally every action you take originates as a chemical reaction in your brain making you perceive things as good or bad. 1's and 0's. Its all happening so fast that you're given the illusion of free will.

Daniel Thomas
Daniel Thomas

Erm.... Nah

Benjamin Morris
Benjamin Morris

believe me or not, you could google it too, but it doesn't change whats happening.

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