Where were you when the US-centric world order started to crumble?

Where were you when the US-centric world order started to crumble?

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By "taking our destiny into our own hands" does she mean "importing millions of shitskins"? Because that's not how it works

it means paying and maintaining an eu army

America doesn't give a squirt of hot piss about Slovakia and they only barely care about Germany

After 9/11

Oh no! Going to have to cut public funding and divert it to a military now.
We'll see how long the people stay happy with that.

This is what I'm hearing too. Pretty sad.

Does this mean you rest will also man the fuck up reintroduce conscription?

Europe will rise again, beware USA, China, India, Russia. We ruled over the whole world a long time ago.

she's right of course, but it's hillarious to see this coming from the European country with the most egotistic politics and the one that rejected solidarity the most in the last decade

I don't need another Molenbeek you fat cunt, you're fucking dead if you go there and don't praise Big A in the mosque

Only third world shitholes have that you fucking commie.

And bailing out us.

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>I don't need another Molenbeek

but you already have plenty others like Shaerbeek, Vilvoord, Charleroi, Saint-Josse...

Most of those posting under the US flag on Sup Forums, are self-hating whites and millennial progressives of the following type:

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They desire the transformation of the United States into a non-white country, and are actively leading the charge to turn it more diverse and multicultural, while marginalizing the white males and reducing their social and economic power.

They would welcome the complete collapse of US global influence, as it would allow them to concentrate on an agenda of progressive reform at home .

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Where were you when old, dying republicans voted away the American-dominated world system because talk radio made them angry at their chicano gardeners and maids

They're also voting in a healthcare bill that will kill them off faster lmao what a country

The way she plays with both those mics at the same time makes me rock hard

First TTIP which make China dominant player in Asia, now this with Europe.

US is not superpower anymore, surrounded to russians without any shots fired

Sad

Pax Americana ended with terminating TPP. Everything that comes after are just the logical steps that follow.
>You will see an empire fall in your lifetime

Cause the healthcare bill won't actually affect them in any way. It will only benefit their buddies at the insurance companies.

Anyone willing to profit on people's demise is a terrible person. Healthcare and college are the only things that should at the very least have public vs private option. We pretend we're first world but we need to walk the walk.

You know that she just speaks for Germany and not actually the entire continent, she just wants to sound powerful.
Germany is just a small rebellious brick in the wall of American dominance , and soon america will put that brick back into the wall again.

In the Netherlands the net neurality laws go a lot further than in America. They for example forbid ISP's from scanning your traffic. And the laws were accepted with 100% of the parliament agreeing.

And then in America there is a whole discussion about how evil net neutrality is. It just boggled my mind.

*neutrality
*boggles

>Europeans
>we
you're on your own, Merkellandia. She's your fault.

America can't do jackshit.
What did the US do when De Gaulle kicked all American troops out of France and left NATO? Nothing.

The only reason why people are dominated by America is because they allow it. The US does not even want to court these relationships, in fact it would be a better sell at home to say that they are saving money and will no longer have to protect people who can care for themselves.

>TTIP
TPP*

And that still does not make sense. You mean RCEP, which isn't any more "Chinese-led" than the G-20.

>and soon america will put that brick back into the wall again.
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>The only reason why people are dominated by America is because they allow it.

Este

We Europeans are such cuckolds. We won't even defend our own interests. The USA invaded a random nation while lying about the reasons, but all my government did was bow down and deepthroat a bushy cock.

Germany. We support you all in this issue for once.

I mean that all these asian countries like vietnam who waited years for this trade deal are now in hurry to make a deal with chinese

America lost a lot of credibility and influence

>rely on others completely
Why did we fucking do this in the first place? I can't believe that orange moron actually did something good for once.

>They would welcome the complete collapse of US global influence
WTF I love millennials now!?

ON ALL LEVELS EXCEPT PHYSICAL, WE DON'T NEED THE US AND BRITAIN

[becomes a Russian vassal state]

British and American people made a decision to withdraw from European affairs. We have to respect that and act according to our own interests.

Conscription is literally slave labour, conscripts have absolutely no value as soldiers and would never be anywhere near any conflict; a modern military doesn't need cannon fodder, it needs highly trained, full-time professionals, anything else just gets in the way. Conscript training in all countries that enforce it isn't even on par with recruit training for Reserves in Australia (which are shorter, watered down versions of full-time), and most of the periods of service for those conscripts are much longer than the recruit training.

It's only use is for political tools and for propaganda (if you choose to enforce heavy indoctrination during conscription).

From what I understand, it was just pre-election talk.

We won't increase military spending, since that's one of her disagreement points with the US in the first place.
This doesn't really mean anything in practice, she's just stating a fact that our ties are getting weaker.

A strong Europe would be nice, though.

Probably a good thing

>rejected solidarity
Could you explain further?

they are getting NGO's to do that into Italy while people worry about Trump in a golf cart

Bad things tend to happen when Europe starts militarizing and gaining confidence.

This is the true EU redpill. The euro has been a failure mainly because of germany

>US and Britian
aka US and our funny talking crypto colony.
Honestly I'm excited, considering Libya/Iraq/Afghanistan/Syria our foreign policy elites have been so far up their own ass they deserve the wake up call

Mostly to Europe itself, because it used to involve one country or another trying to conquer it with force.

I don't think this is a good argument against cooperation in Europe itself.

I think he's referring to the Greek financial crisis and German unwillingness to hand out free money.

France forced Germany to adopt Euro in exchange for allowing German unification.

The true EU redpill is that the Euro was forced on Germany by France as the price for reunification.
Germans were actually very happy with the Deutschmark since it was a very stable currency and we acquired the post-war prosperity with it.

>europoors were american slaves all this time
Really makes me think

Slaves who live better than "free" Russians.

>not the world police anymore
Thank fucking god

Why did the CDU elect this former DDR bitch? Anyway good luck with the EU army or whatevs

they really need to ban those NGOs that are doing that. plenty of justification too, they're aiding human traffickers and participating in human trafficking themselves.

Wow you really turned my life around rn. I will get european citizenship asap and start to work in non profit organization to help refugee to reach europe. It doesn't matter that there is no political or any power that I relate to the only thing that matters is being controlled by strong america.who will help us no matter what

This could be a good thing for many countries.
It will bring about self reliability for countries and more independence in their own strength.

>germans are starting to get uppity again
who could possibly think that this is a good idea

Germans will destroy europe once again.

butthurt brit
200 bln trade deficit you are our bitch

I'm butthurt because I don't understand why an atlanticist party elected a former Stasi agent? Ok

I think it's funny that yuros think that we're supposed to be upset by this.

This whole policing the world business comes at the expense of us. It's hardly for our benefit as much it let's yuros live in their harmonious little socialist bubbles and bitch about how evil America is all day.

I welcome somebody else taking over the job for a while.

Yes, I agree. I don't think stronger Europe would be a bad thing.

The thing is, system where you have multiple more equal powers is inherently less stable than one with a single dominant superpower.

WWI started because both sides thought they had a chance to win it.

i.e. Multipolar vs. Unipolar system

The europoors who talk about the united EU army and shit - how do you think is it going to work?
Most of your contries stopped conscription because you didn't need your army, you've had USA to protect you. Then you furthered it by introducing women as ministers of defence, transsexuals, gays, etc into your armies. Then you've laughed at americans being hurr durr patriots, keeping guns and shit, thinking it all to be for stupid people. How the hell are you going to make people suddenly want to serve in the army and be patriotic?
Also, united. You can't even agree on small shit, like you've got countries going rogue because you're trying to force hordes of arabs into them, and suddenly you'll agree to make a united, tightly knit military?
Germany better pay Donald their NATO debts.

>atlanticist
stop pretending you know anything about germany just because your pathetic relatives were stationed here
hitler should have eradicated your fucking inbred infested island
GLORY TO THE IRA

>Knows nothing about his own cunt
>Knows nothing about other cunts
Poor babe

Waste of money defending anyone who doesn't pay the 2%

Pay Debnts

>hitler should have eradicated your fucking inbred infested island
can't you get yourself arrested for saying this in germanistan?

Doubt it's even a kraut sounds like some russian faggot

lel
*blows away leaf*

Our next government will lead us out of Europe. What countries will follow suit?

SP are polling at less than 10%. Their position in government didn't seem to help.

Unironically, that is what I read of that Merkel comment.

>"Europe must take its destiny into its own hands"

So... we weren't sovereign nations before? What were we then? America's bitch? Little cucks?

If anything, and except for Italy and Germany that were essentialy occupied american protectorates since WWII, we all are waaaay more cucks now than 20 yrs ago, and not because of the EU but because of economic globalization and corporate power. Look at Ireland f.i. One hell of a cuck country whose sovereignity resides on the Microsoft corporate board.

Yeah with money only because much of Germany's military equipment is unused, so Germany will be outsourcing their defence to other EU countries just like they're currently doing with NATO.

>British and American people made a decision to withdraw from European affairs.

Wrong in terms of military cooperation and probably for other such endeavours. The UK will continue to work with other Europeans nations militarily as it has always done. There are constant army and navy exercises going on between nations and that won't change after Brexit.

Brexit will create a huge antipathy and it's also going to affect military cooperation between EU and UK. It's inevitable.

As long as we continue to protect qt Estonia.

The world existed before the EU. It's fine.

Nah because these people are grown ups and cooperation will continue.

>"hey let's cut the relations with our former enemies that still kinda hate us. What could possibly go wrong? Deutschland eh I mean EU stronk"

GOD why are our leaders/people who voted for these leaders so retarded?

It's going to hurt. British tabloids and the Tories must blame it on someone.

The Americans don't hate you

the "redpilled" ones do tho

I don't think that's a politically influential bloc if its who I think you mean

>Germany destroys Europe for the THIRD time

Interesting timeline

>projections

The sad reality is that a large part of the alt right consists of manlets with low self esteem whose insecurities fuel their hate for everyone who doesn't fit into their imagined aryan utopia. This is why we can't have nice things.

>the usa and uk cannot be trusted, we as europeans should rely more on ze german exports and take our destiny in our own german hands

Why do I have the feeling that Poland will be invaded again? By Germany, of course

Germany is basically an 18 year old son who is finally old enough to leave the house and needs to go get a job.

We don't hate you. But as the richest and most powerful country in Europe, there's no excuse for you not paying more in to NATO. Trump isn't the first US president to bring this up. Obama and Bush also ragged on Europe for not stepping up more.

We just invaded Poland in WWII to make you stop running those death camps.

Ah right. I forgot the New World History Elementary

Please accept the reality, Bartosz. Don't deny the Polish death camps. You can still visit them in Polish cities like Oświęcim.

do other europeans feel ok about France-Germany leading role in the EU?

I only wish I would remember why we closed them....

If they give out money no one cares

I thought that i'd really prefer for France to take the lead but after their latest election, i dont think so

EU is a rotten corpse.

It's just that no one here takes it serious because we live in a bubble. Most ppl here don't see a menace that would be worth the money.

>when ypu have to stop funding social programs to increase military spending because an idiot said he wont help you out and thay same idiot started the problem from the beginning
Damn, i feel bad for Yurop

>I only wish I would remember why we closed them....
Germany and Russia closed them and stopped you from killing all the Jews.

In general no, I remember a poll back in '14 where the majority of Swedes wanted the EU to have EU wide votes (where everybody in the EU old enough to vote would be able to) on issues relating to internet freedom, immigration, fiscal policies etc rather than having elected officials vote on such matters.

Hmm.... I guess that we must re-open them then

The UNSC?