JOHN MAUS DEFENDS MDE

Grayson Rodriguez
Grayson Rodriguez

https://pitchfork.com/news/john-maus-speaks-on-involvement-with-canceled-alt-right-adult-swim-show/

I don’t want to make any apology, but I also didn’t want to.... The guys I met were nice. They weren’t burning crosses or doing anything like that. In other words, I never had, from what I know about it, any indication that anything other than certain instances of a sort of trolling was going on. What did they do that made them Nazis? Maybe I haven’t looked into it. Or why were they alt-right people?

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/918112884630093825
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https://twitter.com/LilyMakowski/status/918578823809064960
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Jaxson Reed
Jaxson Reed

there's nothing even right wing about MDE or sam hyde in general. completely fabricated story. him and john maus are both leftists

Austin Sanchez
Austin Sanchez

Lol what a fucking retard

Enjoy being blacklisted because you chose to defend unfunny inbred retards who took the redpill one too many times.

Jack Gutierrez
Jack Gutierrez

Props to him for sticking to his guns, but he may have just fucked himself

Aiden Martin
Aiden Martin

I feel bad for John here. He seems like a guy that doesn't want to burn anyone at the stake and is caught between a rock and a hard place.

Zachary Hernandez
Zachary Hernandez

t. ezra

Thomas Barnes
Thomas Barnes

based

Dylan Ramirez
Dylan Ramirez

how?
majority of his fans don't care

James Butler
James Butler

Jesus. i'm not really political but it seems like lefties are really trying to shut down and crucify almost anything that either makes fun of them.

Joseph Wilson
Joseph Wilson

They weren’t burning crosses or doing anything like that
this is the only way to be racist

Aaron Adams
Aaron Adams

defend free speech
defend the right to make ironic comedy in 2017 when apparently everything is too offensive because retards complain about everything on twitter instead of I their cats like they did previously
get pegged as 100 buzzwords for your whole career
Based John Maus defying the ridiculous contemporary culture of being mad when anyone says anything.

Jace Ortiz
Jace Ortiz

His fans don't, but people who've never heard of him will complain because Pitchfork is now advertising this on their front page

Jaxson Parker
Jaxson Parker

The episode in which Maus appeared also featured a disturbing sketch where a man trips his sister-in-law, causing her to fall through a glass table and bleed.

OH NO

Xavier Thompson
Xavier Thompson

this
if you're a fan of maus, odds are you knew where he stood on this issue anyway

Eli Gomez
Eli Gomez

EZRA MARCUS IS ABOUT TO WRITE THE HIT PIECE OF A LIFETIME

After he unlocks his Twitter account and returns to the public eye

Ryan Scott
Ryan Scott

Maus recalls, “Now immediately, I’m thinking of ‘Metalocalypse.’ I’m thinking of phantasmagorical humor, like a person gets their arm ripped off or something, and there’s something absurd about that. I didn’t think much beyond that about it.” He adds, “The idea that it just encourages violence against women, maybe I’m just too dumb. I didn’t see that or something like that. I don’t know.”
I feel bad for Maus because he's being entirely reasonable but he's still going to get fucked for this

Logan Reed
Logan Reed

all of MDE's alt-right ties were established far before the movement was successfully turned into the fourth reich by factors both external and internal.

anybody who paid attention knows this but for the average leftist media person that didn't matter one bit. I heard these people were nazis so Hyde must be a nazi too right?

Josiah Bailey
Josiah Bailey

but he's still going to get fucked for this
again by whoooo???
he hasn't said anything bad

Eli Roberts
Eli Roberts

lol someone seriously got distrubed by the wine party?

Aaron Richardson
Aaron Richardson

I've seen people go apeshit about someone writing "girls are crap" on a bin, so that would probably be a PR nightmare for adult swim. The state of the world.

Evan Russell
Evan Russell

Can we make an Alt-Right music chart?

Ariel Pink
John Maus
Morrissey
Guided by Voices
Melvins
Cows
Kid Rock
Azseilia Banks

Noah Flores
Noah Flores

Maus is safe nothing to worry about

Levi Roberts
Levi Roberts

this. Name 1 remotely right wing thing about the show, Sam, or its fanbase.

Matthew Wood
Matthew Wood

to me alt-right still means anti-establishment right

what's sad(!) is that the people who identified with the movement when it was in that place have had the carpet pulled from under their feet now they need a new collective identity

James Clark
James Clark

the only ties they have is to anti-establishment, freedom of speech in the most facetious sense and rattling bones for the fuck of it

Kayden Sanchez
Kayden Sanchez

He's not defending them he's just not apologizing for appearing on the show

Gavin Lopez
Gavin Lopez

I know he hasn't, but do you think the liberal elites of the hierarchy of the music circles he travels in will look kindly on anything other than a complete cut of ties and dismissal of Million Dollar Extreme? It won't be a fan backlash, but there's consequences to even accusations in that sort of social environment.

Josiah Nguyen
Josiah Nguyen

sam hyde donated $5000 to the daily stormer

Lincoln Harris
Lincoln Harris

He literally said they dindu nuffin wrong and theyre just some nice guys

Christopher Taylor
Christopher Taylor

so sam donated $5000 to the daily stormer ironically?

Robert Brooks
Robert Brooks

Guided by Voices
Cows
Source on these, not that either would surprise me?
Also, add Billy Corgan

Wyatt Smith
Wyatt Smith

they have good manners so they can't be bad
sick of this narrative

Cameron Watson
Cameron Watson

Every review of Maus' new album will now include a few lines about his "shady connections to the alt-right"....sad

Jason Collins
Jason Collins

John Maus is canceled

#JohnMausIsOverParty

Jordan Robinson
Jordan Robinson

brocialists

Liam Young
Liam Young

Shannon, the lead singer of Cows is a staunch Trump supporter, all over his FB but posting on phone now

Pollard said "this president, same as the last one, no difference" which = alt-right

Great call on Billy, can't believe I forgot

Austin Fisher
Austin Fisher

I think you're correct. I never really cared for it because it wasn't compatible with my views but that's how I perceived the movement initially. youth-driven and characteristically removed from the religious bigotry and puritanism typically associated with the right.

I think their biggest mistake was backing Trump. it started the character assassination campaign against them and ousted the more reasonable people among them as the cheeto train derailed into the current shitshow we're seeing.

but that's not mainstream-leftist so it might as well be nazism.

Connor Reed
Connor Reed

inb4 EZRA'd

Adam Allen
Adam Allen

--tell ppl to kill cops and CEOs
--get cancelled for being rite wing

wut??

Josiah Flores
Josiah Flores

Burzum
Public Image Ltd/Sex Pistols

Jace Turner
Jace Turner

What a dumbass.

He had potential but I won't support him or anyone who associates with him anymore.

Not giving cover to fascists

Oliver Myers
Oliver Myers

I'm not sure about Shannon. He made that post on April 1st.
Pollard is tru-woke to realise that. I'm surprised so few other people realise that that's exactly how the political system was designed to work in America.

Jordan Taylor
Jordan Taylor

BYE BYE MAUS

I hope #BLM/his students boycott his college classes now.

Ezra bro, we're all rooting for you to knock this one out of the work

William Ramirez
William Ramirez

yep, i can easily see a maus tour being derailed by angry sjws who put pressure on venues etc

Jaxon Barnes
Jaxon Barnes

not a nazi, just a dipshit woman-hater and regurgitator of alt-right talking points. Everything Sam posts online these days is about women being whores or immigrants being rapey or the white race being in dire trouble. Boring. MDE as a unit is dead, everything they've released recently has been old. Nick and Charls have all but disappeared from that sphere, Sam's put on like 70 pounds and does nothing but post bitter shit online and work on more "books" that will never be shipped out

basically fuck sam hyde, he's a retard who ruined his own promising comedy career as well as those of his 2 buddies. You think the other guys will ever have a chance of working in comedy now that they're associated with some fat fuck bigot who can't keep his stupid mouth shut?

Jack Reyes
Jack Reyes

lol all he had to do was say sorry for appearing on the alt-right quarter hour comedy variety show and say he hates MDE for tricking him

What a moron. Enjoy your dead career, nazi-sympathizer

Luis Garcia
Luis Garcia

Hey gang, you should email the venues of Maus' upcoming tour and let them know he refuses to denounce alt-right neo nazi connections

Jack Mitchell
Jack Mitchell

sam hyde is undeniably alt-right but the show is fine. it was hardly even political for the most part, though admittedly there were a few times it did make social/political commentary.

Angel Barnes
Angel Barnes

first fantano
then ariel (confirmed)
now maus (pending)

it's a goddamn HIT PARADE

Eli Cox
Eli Cox

MDE fans would appreciate this joke if they weren't complete sheep.

Grayson Cooper
Grayson Cooper

they wouldn't have a chance in the first place if it wasn't for sam, you idiot

they were sidekicks, he was the main show

nick isnt even funny

Blake Phillips
Blake Phillips

Maus' response in a nutshell

Yeah, I know I hung out with nazis BUT they were nice to me so don't hold me accountable for my actions.

Jordan Sanchez
Jordan Sanchez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQPM4_fMIEg
Wrong

Connor Evans
Connor Evans

nazis
user pls

Caleb Morgan
Caleb Morgan

WE WANT EZRA!

*clap-clap clap-clap-clap*

WE WANT EZRA!

*clap-clap clap-clap-clap*

WE WANT EZRA

*clap-clap clap-clap-clap*

We are truly living in the golden age of hit pieces. Fantano, Ariel and Maus will all be finished in the industry by the end of the month. Oh hitpieces, keep a comin! We love you Ezra!

John Nguyen
John Nguyen

its unironically brave when indie musicians go against the left

Hunter Martinez
Hunter Martinez

Wikipedia lists the following as endorsers of Trump in the election:
Azealia Banks
Zoltan Bathory
Pat Boone
White Dawg
P Diddy
Kanye West
Young Dro
Larry Gatlin
Michale Graves
Jesse Hughes
Kaya Jones
Filipp Kirkorov
Loretta Lynn
Justin Moore
Naked Cowboy
Wayne Newton
Ted Nugent
Brad Paisley
Kid Rock
Johnny Rotten
David Silveria
Gene Simmons
Red Steagall
Marc Terenzi
Joy Villa
Take some of them with a pinch of salt though

John Sullivan
John Sullivan

these fucking bastards are really stepping over the line now. how long until the gun turns on them?

Charles Garcia
Charles Garcia

they wouldn't have a chance in the first place if it wasn't for sam, you idiot

no shit, fact still remains though that he sabotaged their success by being a 30+ year old edgelord manchild with the impulse control of a toddler

nick isnt even funny
incorrect

Camden Hall
Camden Hall

Johnny Rotten

Aaron Myers
Aaron Myers

mmmm daddy, write a hit piece mmm that fucks me up so good

mm god daddy, choke me, CHOKE ME YEAH YEAH, TELL ME HOW THIS RELATES TO THE ALT RIGHT AND THEIR CORE values ugggh aghghghhhhhhhhhhh *gags*

mmm ezra, baby youre so talented. oh daddy youre so good. URSOFUCKINGOODWHENYOUWRITETHAT HIT PIECE. MMM FUCK

OOHHOHHHHahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. FUCK OH EZRA>

take it from me daddy
yeah yeah yeah
ruin that carreer
im so worthless daddy just end me just fucking HITPIECE ME

YES.YES.YES.YES get that tour cancelled
fuck yeah get me blacklisted
drag that reputation in the mud, mmmm you fuckin nasty
oh god ezra
YES
YESSs ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hh

Liam Rogers
Liam Rogers

I know, that's why I said take some with a pinch of salt, though he did defend him on some of the accusations thrown at him on Good Morning Britain and a few times since. Doesn't surprise me that he would do that because John himself was accused of being a racist once in the past, so must know what it's like to be on the receiving end of that.

Alexander Young
Alexander Young

john maus BTFO

Carson Garcia
Carson Garcia

uh wow homophobia much

Jacob Walker
Jacob Walker

With a name like that I'd bet this person posts on Sup Forums

Thomas Richardson
Thomas Richardson

GUILTY OF THOUGHT CRIMES

THOUGHT CRIMES
H
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(*guilty by association - forfeit your livelihood)

Alexander Stewart
Alexander Stewart

liberals
consistent, let alone honest

Aaron Sanchez
Aaron Sanchez

nick is the funniest
charles is not funny

Gavin Hughes
Gavin Hughes

charls is the top dog and you better accept it before you get unabomb'd friendo

Isaac Martinez
Isaac Martinez

Who here /r/milliondollarextreme crew?

Gabriel Green
Gabriel Green

friendo

fuck back off to reddit and never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever........*takes deep breath*, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever FUCKING return "friendo"

Jeremiah White
Jeremiah White

reddit sub dedicated to a dead comedy troupe full of shitposting underage autismos

just you

Daniel Gutierrez
Daniel Gutierrez

Me. Fuck those turds over at /r/adultswim

Landon Hill
Landon Hill

maaaan people only like that nigga for his face

Asher Bell
Asher Bell

I love sucking cock tbqh

Hunter Kelly
Hunter Kelly

*BTFO's Fantano, Ariel Pink, & Maus all in the same month*

Nathaniel Reed
Nathaniel Reed

17,790 readers
496 users here now

Literally a very active forum

Daniel Murphy
Daniel Murphy

this board is fucking dead if the only threads that get traction are celebrity gossip surrounding literal who musicians

Jaxon Cruz
Jaxon Cruz

BUNCH A NADSI :--DDDDDDD

Sebastian Bailey
Sebastian Bailey

mde never dies

Ian Peterson
Ian Peterson

*cough* https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/918112884630093825 *cough*

Connor Brown
Connor Brown

i said "dead comedy troupe" not "dead reddit sub" u illiterate fucking moron

Colton Collins
Colton Collins

You forget that Charls is the creative genius behind most of their shit, his brain is on a completely different level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boIvtRcNdtI

Nathan Howard
Nathan Howard

yeah such a drag man, we need more "music for this feel", "post a pic and others tell you the genre" and "you hear it you lose" threads

Carson Jackson
Carson Jackson

He ruined his relationship with his mother for the sake of comedy so that wouldn't surprise me.

Christian Ortiz
Christian Ortiz

lol yeah and don't forget how he recommended every football player who kneels in protest of him be fired. Yeah I'm sure it's the "flag" being disrespected that he's upset about. Very believable.

Luke Bell
Luke Bell

it just gets cancelled, the group disbands, and goes on indefinite hiatus

Brandon Lee
Brandon Lee

you're a little too out of touch with reality honestly, just a bit off the edge, you don't think that thought is a bit paranoid?

Lincoln Anderson
Lincoln Anderson

nah
he gives brain on a completely different level tho

Gavin Smith
Gavin Smith

Tim Heidecker, the executive at Adult Swim, got them cancelled and made up some bullshit story. He's also an employee of Shareblue.

Aiden Morgan
Aiden Morgan

righties proving once again that THEY are the snowflakes

Tyler Clark
Tyler Clark

Add Fantano to that list.

Jayden Mitchell
Jayden Mitchell

and even then, only ironically

Christian Murphy
Christian Murphy

damn right he does

Evan Reed
Evan Reed

I'm seeing him Sunday with Areil in San Francisco. I'm really nervous now. Thanks.

Noah Smith
Noah Smith

trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls....

Landon Sullivan
Landon Sullivan

he made her a song though

Ayden Evans
Ayden Evans

smash the fash xD

Luis Watson
Luis Watson

nigga looks like the virgin from those virgin/chad memes

Juan Kelly
Juan Kelly

*phones the areil*
oh mr manager? why are you giving a platform to nazis in exchange for cold hard capital?

Ryder Peterson
Ryder Peterson

yo give me your ticket

Oliver Hill
Oliver Hill

Nick is the best member by far.

Connor Myers
Connor Myers

Ariel Pink and John Maus are touring together

UH OH

Jackson Torres
Jackson Torres

oh shit its literally him

Jaxson Cox
Jaxson Cox

I didn't realise "I don't like Madonna" makes Ariel a nazi

John Young
John Young

They could be insanely low key Accelerationists.

Joshua Edwards
Joshua Edwards

Filipp Kirkorov
of course that a russkie would support drumpf

Dominic Mitchell
Dominic Mitchell

you said "only you" you fucking goytoy

Camden Cook
Camden Cook

Lol people are already mad
https://twitter.com/LilyMakowski/status/918578823809064960

Adrian Cook
Adrian Cook

the operation barbarossa tour

Michael Parker
Michael Parker

when the left eats their own

Colton Robinson
Colton Robinson

he's a Bulgarian who's living off the government arts teat in Russia

why wouldn't he support Trump? anything that seems to undermine America's hegemony or circle of influence in the world is good for the bad guys

Hunter Watson
Hunter Watson

Nigger did you see the transitions that were censored by adult swim? They weren't gonna get renewed either way and they all knew it. They were all behind the material in WP, all-in. Sam's incendiary tweets were just as dumb as they were before the show and had zero impact.

Ethan Roberts
Ethan Roberts

No, I don't. Perhaps I worded it a bit too strongly, but it's quite obvious that when people speak out in a manner which goes against the general accepted discourse in any social scenario that they risk ostracisation from that group. This isn't exclusive to this - it's the sort of thing that happens in companies, friendship groups, families all the time - nor is it exclusive to a left-wing mindset. Think about the whole Dixie Chicks debacle from about a decade ago. The fact is that an awful lot of people nowadays don't associate with people with different belief systems, and especially ones that associate with people who are deemed as fundamentally "wrong" or "undesirable."

Evan Turner
Evan Turner

this person should unironically be executed. I truly mean this with all my heart, if i could make a gun materialize infront of their face right now, firing into their eyesocket, i would do that.

Ian Johnson
Ian Johnson

white
no bluecheck

literally a nobody

Adam Reyes
Adam Reyes

still not sore after getting cucked by neocons since November?

Adrian Campbell
Adrian Campbell

woah it's almost like they're humans who can be good people AND have controversial political views at the same time.

Christopher Edwards
Christopher Edwards

(((Makowski)))

Oliver Harris
Oliver Harris

punching a nazi is bad
people saying mean words to people calls for execution

Nicholas Gray
Nicholas Gray

Sam making violent threats online has really influenced his fanbase poorly

You think this is funny but you literally can't be typing shit like that online, you can get fucked. What the fuck are you doing>

Cameron Lee
Cameron Lee

music

Tyler Murphy
Tyler Murphy

Mike Lazzo wanted to renew it, but Adult Swims parent company ((Turner)) didn't like the heat.

Landon Green
Landon Green

At least he likes Fugazi

Wyatt Wright
Wyatt Wright

read the whole interview. John is fine

Dylan Brooks
Dylan Brooks

get some reading comprehension, retard. You asked if anyone else here goes to that sub. I said no. Obviously there will be a couple others, but your autism compelled you to take it all literally which i guess is typical of underage hyde dickriding memesters

Josiah Brown
Josiah Brown

while he was on the set. It seems like John doesn't even know who they are and doesn't really care either.

Connor Smith
Connor Smith

class is unironically more important than race

Austin Smith
Austin Smith

Kanye West

Joshua Anderson
Joshua Anderson

could you please try to control your emotions, you're embarrassing yourself senpaitachi

John Reyes
John Reyes

you said it was a dead comedy troupe and then followed that up by saying ONLY YOU

meaning "only YOU care about a dead comedy troupe, no one else goes there"

you're literally fucking retarded. just admit you got called the fuck out or log out and fuck off

Owen Harris
Owen Harris

Sam's incendiary tweets were just as dumb as they were before the show and had zero impact.

People can't dig through your garbage for evidence to get your show cancelled if you don't have one yet. Obviously they had an impact. How do you think he got the "alt-right" title in the first place?

Alexander Anderson
Alexander Anderson

Am I supposed to be surprised? If you listen to his albums they're a weird mix of rightism and anarchism in terms of the perspective he has .

Brandon Edwards
Brandon Edwards

Race is unironically more important than class. Mainly because poor white people get along better with rich white people than poor black people

Lincoln Cruz
Lincoln Cruz

niggas really be calling a commie a nazi fascist lmaooo

Nathan Lewis
Nathan Lewis

https://www.scribd.com/doc/285607768/John-Maus-Communication-and-Control

Read this and fuck off.

Christopher Phillips
Christopher Phillips

yeah I'm the embarrassing one and not the person saying shit like "senpaitachi" ironically

just admit you got called the fuck out

Sure, I got called the fuck out by some idiot kid who can't read and somehow misunderstood every single word of my post

Connor Morris
Connor Morris

You realize that an MDE fan probably made this joke?

Lincoln Price
Lincoln Price

Senpai, that shit is long af. Gimme a summary in no longer than a Tweet form

James Watson
James Watson

yeah i don't get it either, it's so plain to see

"we must become the pitiless censors of ourselves" is almost word-for-word taken from a mid-1920s anton drexler speech

Logan Walker
Logan Walker

you literally can't be typing shit like that online, you can get fucked.
Huh what

Nicholas Young
Nicholas Young

people on Sup Forums and twitter are too stupid to understand that everything john maus stands for is antithetical to nazism

Elijah Bennett
Elijah Bennett

you're literally embarrassing yourself

you got fucked up, called out and are now being roasted. you are CLINGING on to your ego and won't let go

Anthony Butler
Anthony Butler

His career is finished

ill help make sure of it

Jonathan Ross
Jonathan Ross

Foucalt
Deleuze
D I S C A R D E D

Angel Robinson
Angel Robinson

a lot of it has to do with how capitalism causes the quality of music to decay

Asher Reyes
Asher Reyes

"we must become the pitiless censors of ourselves" is a badiou quote. badiou is a communist. most of maus' favorite books are by communists

Charles Barnes
Charles Barnes

senpaitachi is what Sup Forums autochanges f.ams to

Sebastian White
Sebastian White

Everything Sam posts online these days is about women being whores or immigrants being rapey or the white race being in dire trouble.
he isnt wrong

Thomas Johnson
Thomas Johnson

Communism would fucking destroy good music

Chase Lee
Chase Lee

Sun Kil Moon

Jaxon Jones
Jaxon Jones

half of his songs now

turned on cnn
FUCK DRUMPF

Brayden Cruz
Brayden Cruz

"this president, same as the last one, no difference" which = alt-right
but that's not true you faggot, a left winger can think that too

Aaron Williams
Aaron Williams

capitalism causes music to be treated like a commodity, people make music to appeal to the masses in a vapid way to make as much music as possible, it ends up all sounding the same and becoming devoid of any emotion or artistic value

James Johnson
James Johnson

saying shit like "senpaitachi" ironically
kek reddit always finds a way

Isaac Barnes
Isaac Barnes

this level of delusion

Levi Baker
Levi Baker

lol. Quality of any art would improve dramatically.

Bentley Hughes
Bentley Hughes

Not outright denouncing Drumpf when asked about makes you alt-right

Pretending he's "no worse" than Clinton is the language of violence.

John Edwards
John Edwards

Communism DOES produce good music though
it is underground, repressed by government and very, very anti-communist

William Sullivan
William Sullivan

Explain then why the best music comes from capitalist countries and communism has done nothing but shit out bland and soulless art

Nathan Phillips
Nathan Phillips

Name one good album shitheads

Jose Clark
Jose Clark

people pay for music
lawlz check this retard out

Elijah Martinez
Elijah Martinez

sorry, guess I wasn't aware of that wordfilter because I don't talk like a teenager

Sebastian Russell
Sebastian Russell

they're more or less the same
at least trump makes people aware of how fucked our system is
clinton would feed delusion

Chase Perry
Chase Perry

communism
government
pick one

Evan Evans
Evan Evans

everyone is guaranteed same shit
there is no greater award for creating something amazing vs serving food

oh yeah the music would just be awesome bro

the iphone you typed that shit on wouldnt exist without capitalism.

Parker Watson
Parker Watson

sorry, guess I wasn't aware of that wordfilter because I don't talk like a teenager
k den reddit

David Lopez
David Lopez

it would, it just wouldn't be produced and sold in the same way.

Justin Allen
Justin Allen

the iphone argument
I'm not arguing with you kid.

Nicholas Moore
Nicholas Moore

You think [as] people didn't "dig for evidence" before giving the faggots a show in the first place? Fucks sake, Sam has at least an hour of footage of him bombing in front of a crowd because he talks about intentional pozzing ass sex. All on YouTube.
High-level execs might have gotten cold feet because of a Bagelstein shit-piece and negative attention from witch hunters, but MDE and Sam in particular have always stirred shit proudly and openly. That's part of who they are. You can't sign these guys and expect robot chicken

Aiden Mitchell
Aiden Mitchell

How do you think he got the "alt-right" title in the first place?
buzzfeed jew went apeshit because of a snide phone call and decided he was alt-right?

Jack Adams
Jack Adams

great retort. i take back what i said

Liam Wilson
Liam Wilson

people work out of the goodness of their hearts
HA HAA HAAA

Joseph Morris
Joseph Morris

but that is only the biggest mass mainstream music

if you even look at a shallow depth you see lots of different artists doing new things and finding an audience for it. like John Maus. John Maus the musician is only possible because of capitalism.

Xavier Stewart
Xavier Stewart

album
Fucking pop retard

Levi Reed
Levi Reed

I've been posting on this piece of shit board since u were in diapers

Joshua Campbell
Joshua Campbell

everything would be better in my imaginary la la land, i just don't know how

John Jenkins
John Jenkins

m-muh speshul version of communism havent been tried
I really hope your country introduces this retarded system ;)
just look up any album made in Poland between 1945 and 1989 and pick the one you like

Adam Phillips
Adam Phillips

making art isn't work

Angel Gray
Angel Gray

i'm depressed now go away

Sebastian Baker
Sebastian Baker

le eeeeebbbbbbiiiiiiinnnn shit music

Logan Rivera
Logan Rivera

this, fuck drumpf and fuck capitalism

Chase Martinez
Chase Martinez

t. guy who isn't a professional artist

Hudson Cruz
Hudson Cruz

who said I don't know how?

Nathaniel Gutierrez
Nathaniel Gutierrez

why are these types so sensitive? i know this is something we've asked for so long but there is nothing bothersome about any of this
i say this as a white man of course (getting that out of the way but i would be black if given the chance)

Dominic Nguyen
Dominic Nguyen

jokes on you reddit I had diapers on this afternoon for mommy I made boom boom roleplay with your mom

Angel Ross
Angel Ross

just look up any album made in Poland between 1945 and 1989 and pick the one you like
So none.
Also, Poland didn't want to be Communist the entire time and as soon as they got out of the soviet union they started actually making good music again.

Bentley Hill
Bentley Hill

just imagine that there is people on this world that think that such a childish idea like communism is even possible in the slightest, makes you wonder if we are worth anything as a species when such complete blindness and stupidity is in us like a disease ready to murder

Jaxon Nguyen
Jaxon Nguyen

Shostakovich
shit
Fuck off peasant

Ayden Barnes
Ayden Barnes

yeah bro, recording an album and touring just manifests itself mannnnn

yooo we should let everyone tour and give them all equal time thatd be WokeLit

William Scott
William Scott

they're college-age children, let them have their day

Aiden Thompson
Aiden Thompson

advocating communism
talking down to someone for being in a lower class

Isaiah Howard
Isaiah Howard

recording an album and touring
Wow, sure is degenerate in here

Luis Jones
Luis Jones

neither was bedding your mom last night but I still worked up quite a sweat

Aaron Martinez
Aaron Martinez

yeah they knew he was edgy, but didn't anticipate the backlash, which they should've. We're living in a world where anything you've said in the past can and will be brought back to haunt you. There's a line between just being edgy and actually being "hateful" though and Sam has crossed that line too many times to comfortably work in the public eye. Oops.

Sam decided to fuck with him in the first place because he knew it'd be a hit piece about his position in the "alt right". Watch the video again. It's the first thing the guy asks about. He didn't just "decide" he was alt right because of the call.

Luke Long
Luke Long

so?

Adrian Campbell
Adrian Campbell

Peasants gotta be liberated, doesn't mean they aren't dumb as fuck and don't need to get educated

Liam Robinson
Liam Robinson

One man completely refuting communism this elegantly deserves some respect.

Anthony Morgan
Anthony Morgan

Why is there an entire pitchfork article about this

Carson Fisher
Carson Fisher

Because anything even vaguely political and Pitchfork has to cover the damn story like The Beatles were reforming

Nolan Garcia
Nolan Garcia

it's not an entire article it's a bunch of block quotes taken form a much longer interview done by vice

Michael Powell
Michael Powell

"""music"""

Jordan Diaz
Jordan Diaz

this is hardly a defense

it's the most middle-of-the-road non-opinion one could possibly hold

Ryan Brooks
Ryan Brooks

people who base their opinions on twitter shitposts and Sup Forums infographics arguing about the intricacies of centuries old political ideologies
woke

Nolan Anderson
Nolan Anderson

here's some fun MUSIC RELATED threads for you to DISCUSS MUSIC in

/mu/thread/75677977#p75677977
/mu/thread/75673397#p75673397
/mu/thread/75670038#p75670038

Carson Ortiz
Carson Ortiz

COMMUNISTS Resigned!!!!

Jayden Baker
Jayden Baker

Quality if any art would improve
Have you looked at eastern Europe and the commie blocks they have? I find it funny that someone who cites post modernist authors complains about how *capitalism* degrades the music industry when the entirety of the post modern movement is based around deconstructionism and post structuralist thought , creating some of the worst monstrosities in art today.
Like what even is art brah

Communism is based on the same materialism and humanism , and will create the same shit art. It's zeitgeist is one of degrading mankind to economic units in the same methods that capitalism does as well

T. Former leftist

Hudson Sanchez
Hudson Sanchez

I thank A.M. Rosenberg
cute

Oliver Morris
Oliver Morris

Sprout is that Obummer meme posting uncle

Jaxson Perry
Jaxson Perry

Lydon is a celebrity obsessed with appearing 'working class' because he bases so much of his identity on it. He just parrots whatever he thinks British working class people believe from the slim information that reaches him in his L.A home.

He outright said he supported Brexit because that's what 'WE WORKIN CLASS PEOPLE WANT' and then double backed on it when he found out that working class Londoners mainly voted remain.

He's an idiot and a caricature of everything he hated.

Christopher Turner
Christopher Turner

working class Londoners mainly voted remain.
Londoners
That's the problem

Elijah Garcia
Elijah Garcia

t. the human fedora

Levi Peterson
Levi Peterson

the trololo guy

Brayden Phillips
Brayden Phillips

Wait, how was the MDE show alt-right? It wasn't any more political than your typical oddball sketch comedy show on adult swim.

Landon Wood
Landon Wood

I don't see the problem.

Alexander Allen
Alexander Allen

the reason this shit on the left keeps getting worse and the shit on the right keeps getting worse is because militance seems to be a characteristic of people that are strongly on one side or the other. People more central in their beliefs are more often not the ones that break into the public consciousness by writing articles and creating media to critique things, and therefore it's simply the most verbal people that are the ones that are dictating the narratives that everyone follows.

That said I wish we could do something about the pitchfork bullshit, fuck I'd honestly be more interested than cringing even if there were some retarded "music-gate" crap that ended up happening, but it would be useless in the end because the movement would be hijacked by literal alt-right types and edgelords just like with gamergate and it will only reinforce the opinions of the over-the-top left media sources that are behind the problem

Ian Bailey
Ian Bailey

It wasn't, Sam's dumb ass comments just came back to bite him in the ass.

Benjamin Edwards
Benjamin Edwards

Most political sketches were Fresh Homemade Tap and "Just Dump it!" or whatever, and even that is not really political, so-to-speak. Although, there was a "Vote Trump" subliminal message at the end of the teacher sketch I think, where Charls mouths it with finger guns to his head. Who cares about that though... Many other shows showed their endorsement for Hillary/Bernie and hate for Trump.

Eli Wood
Eli Wood

maybe the JEWS ROCK sketch but that was fucking hilarious

Ryan Myers
Ryan Myers

I know Chastity Belt disavowed them because they used the song Drone, did anyone else say shit about this that had a song used?

Matthew Mitchell
Matthew Mitchell

I don't know any actual background info on this so somebody feel free to fill me in, but I've felt like the only reason Sam Hyde is a Trump supporter is more because he's an edgelord and uses shock value as an instrument to act for his platform (which therefore would support the idea of him liking the idea of Trump being elected shaking things up)

Is there any truth to this?

Cameron Wood
Cameron Wood

both political leanings have their assholes and snowflakes u dip

Grayson King
Grayson King

He's a full blown /pol/ poster, even before Trump he had art and videos using talking points you see on /pol/

Caleb Davis
Caleb Davis

implying Trump isn't a lefty

Carter Ramirez
Carter Ramirez

pretty sure like all the musicial artists that played for the show other than maus said something

Jordan Johnson
Jordan Johnson

what's going on big guy

Parker Allen
Parker Allen

not reading and applying post-structuralist critiques of bureaucratic neoliberalism
it’s like you don’t even want the far right to succeed

David Foster
David Foster

Wdhmbt?

Ayden Rivera
Ayden Rivera

that tranny gets buttheart

Camden Carter
Camden Carter

lol Fantano just got hitpiece'd a couple of days ago and his shows got cancelled. Same thing can happen to Maus for being reasonable and associating with some guys who do un-PC humor.

Thomas Adams
Thomas Adams

Sam Hyde's more nuanced than the "alt-right"

Levi Gray
Levi Gray

the amount of SJW mental gymnastics is fucking insane, it's like these people live in some sort of alternate dimension, communicating to ours through the higher spheres of wokeness

Michael Collins
Michael Collins

https://www.instagram.com/p/BP-_DI_AbNC/?taken-by=lilykmakowski
lel, this the same person?

Isaac Edwards
Isaac Edwards

No he's a right wing guy who actually believes in white nationalism, he recently donated like $3000 to the Daily Stormer. Idk why people keep acting like he's actually a leftist with some ironic ulterior motive when he's made it very clear what he believes.

The same dumbasses are acting like Maus is alt-right when anyone who skims his dissertation can see he associates with communism and post-modern critical theory.

Samuel Jones
Samuel Jones

He said he did that because of free speech or something but he really did it because he knew the reaction it would get

Joshua White
Joshua White

DUDE WHY DID ADULT SWIM CANCEL MY SHOW??? I'M FUCKING BROKE I CAN'T AFFORD HEALTH INSURANCE

*donates thousands of dollars to white nationalists like it's nothing*

Evan Cruz
Evan Cruz

the quintenssential "I GET MY MUSIC TASTE FROM P4K" chart

Aaron Rivera
Aaron Rivera

dammit I meant quintessential

Luis Morgan
Luis Morgan

He is probably getting residuals from his AS contract still, the whole "I'm poor and living in a car" thing is more than likely another bit

Brody Morgan
Brody Morgan

hate to be the guy with the 1984 reference, but it's basically like 1984 but crowd-sourced

Luis Wright
Luis Wright

Nigga why is it wrong to want your country's tradition and culture to be respected? You wouldn't know respect if shot you in the face with it.

Nathaniel Garcia
Nathaniel Garcia

Sam Hyde is beyond simple politics

Juan Brooks
Juan Brooks

he said on the Dick Show that he invested in bitcoin, has a decent amount of money and is thinking about self-funding a second season of WP. Who knows how true any of that is though

Jaxson Cruz
Jaxson Cruz

It's ridiculous that sitting during an anthem is considered "disrespectful" people have burned and wiped their actual ass with the flag, that shit is disrespect with the intent to do so.

Luis Fisher
Luis Fisher

It has nothing to do with "tradition and culture" and you know it. They're kneeling to protest police brutality and Trump. Babby Donald feels personally disrespected so he's asking for them to be fired. That's as thin-skinned and petty as you can get.

Brayden Wilson
Brayden Wilson

Why should we allow disrespect in any form? Kneeling because of non-issue to stir up shit in the media could very well lead to flag-burning and full on riots. Give people an inch and they'll take a mile. They'll see their little protest as a victory and continue to show disdain for the country that allows them to make millions playing with balls.

Evan Harris
Evan Harris

Peaceful protest runs contrary to American culture and tradition
Woah, really made me think

Nicholas Davis
Nicholas Davis

Why should we allow disrespect in any form?

idk maybe because it's a free country

Colton Phillips
Colton Phillips

Why should we allow disrespect in any form?
How authoritarian of you.

Jose Garcia
Jose Garcia

Why should we allow disrespect in any form?
I really hope you're not a Trump supporter because boy does that motherfucker do some disrespectful shit.

Dominic Smith
Dominic Smith

He's probably gonna have to donate 5k to Lil B now too lol

Xavier Gray
Xavier Gray

Why?

Brandon Diaz
Brandon Diaz

No offence but this is why the rest of the world has the stereotype of Americans being stupid. Nobody else sees this as patriotic, it's insane. If you get offended by someone kneeling during a national anthem then you are unironically, legitimately mentally ill.

Carson Diaz
Carson Diaz

he like posted on twitter to lil b saying that he'd give him 5k if he takes an iq test and his iq ends up being more than 100

i mean I don't fucking know but I'd honestly be surprised if it's actually below 100, most people are above 100 aren't they

Michael Walker
Michael Walker

most people of certain races, yes.

Leo Green
Leo Green

tfw flagfuckers railing against everything said flag stands for

god the cognitive dissonance trump supporters these days suffer must truly be suffering

Cameron Phillips
Cameron Phillips

yeah whites are some dumb fuckers, they're now jews when it comes to iq that's for sure

Nathan Taylor
Nathan Taylor

believes in white nationalism
how can u not

Aaron Edwards
Aaron Edwards

Somebody tell John Maus, if someone's nice to you, but not nice to POC, Queer folk, or Jews, they're not "nice" people.

Jack Mitchell
Jack Mitchell

what exactly do you mean by this?

Hunter Adams
Hunter Adams

He backed down immediately by first saying that it had to be a custom test (designed by Sam himself) and then just outright saying that he would never donate the money.

Chase Adams
Chase Adams

being an ideological cuckold to your own ethnicity

Angel Adams
Angel Adams

Oh wow that's gay
He'd be a lot more edgy if he actually did fork over the 5k than he is doing this, now he just looks like a cunt

Christopher Allen
Christopher Allen

a parasite that can't even remain undetected isn't too smart after all, sweetie

Jace Thomas
Jace Thomas

The episode in question:
(First skit)
https://youtu.be/6q_lXkjF9gM

Xavier Davis
Xavier Davis

I met some people once, they were nice, some say they're nazis but I don't know why, if they are nazis then fuck them

FUCK YOU JOHN MAUS YOU NAZI SYMPATHIZER

Everyone needs to grow up

Kayden Rodriguez
Kayden Rodriguez

i met sam and charls in atlanta. back when they were shooting.
both were nice to me and im black. charls was already telling me about this idea of him streaming shit on twitch.

Hudson Harris
Hudson Harris

i told him

im waiting for him to respond

Isaac Sanders
Isaac Sanders

i really dont understand these types of people. i really feel like they are on such an insanely different wave length to me that it would be best to just completely avoid them in any capacity where possible desu.

Jace Morales
Jace Morales

Moe Tucker supports the tea party, right?

Jose Jenkins
Jose Jenkins

dude its just them shitposting on the internet. i go to a pretty liberal uni and i hear none of this crap

Ethan Young
Ethan Young

/OURGUY/

Jeremiah White
Jeremiah White

I'm a veteran (due to being a stupid, gullible teenager) and I have had people straight up, to my face, call me some variation of 'faggot commie' because I said I have zero issue with people kneeling because it's literally enshrined in the Constitution. All these ball-lickers assume anyone who served should agree with the president by default and it drives me up a fucking wall.

James Wright
James Wright

Seriously I wish you would fucking die. What the fuck is the matter with you. This must be bait. Alt-right is some fabricated garbage from the internet. Pollard is not alt-right. TRUMP ISN'T ALT-RIGHT. He's a fucking centrist meme piece of shit and you faggots still have CNN's dick up your wide holes. Since they are the retards that have been pushing this agenda for the past two years. Please stick a knife in your gut and remove your entrails. You are being played so fucking hard.

Dylan Powell
Dylan Powell

Maus is high IQ and so is most of his fanbase
he will be fine

Connor Collins
Connor Collins

*hell be fine

Ryder Lewis
Ryder Lewis

You are being played so fucking hard.
blame spencer if anything for keeping this shit going on.(still think hes a cia fraud)
they just couldn't accept the fact some ppl didnt want hillary to win

Landon Harris
Landon Harris

I never knew Kim Jong-un was a /mu/tant. What music do you listen to?

John Smith
John Smith

fabricated garbage from the internet
Blame Spencer/Bannon/Le Epic Token Gay Conservative Man for dragging it out, and Trump for letting it into the White House.

Connor Nguyen
Connor Nguyen

Whatever, sure. Still has nothing to do with people who don't denounce him agreeing with the sensationalist retards that profit off of the shitty alt-right movement that started on the under-belly of the internet.

Blake Wilson
Blake Wilson

yeah, as if the kneeling is about saying "fuck the troops and fuck america" but that's how trump has to twist it so morons like the dude we're responding to will eat it all up without a second thought. Funny how he's been talked about as if he's not a politician when cheap, fake patriotism and hiding behind the troops is like one of the first things you learn as a politician

Christian Sanders
Christian Sanders

1 like

Parker Watson
Parker Watson

tea party isn't alt-right really

Andrew Ward
Andrew Ward

You see it in universities, right? The talk show host making fun of jackasses like you or me who thought it was important to learn the residues of the humanities which have existed since the Renaissance. Well, you know, you can't program a computer using that! And, you can't make money doing that!

What's gonna happen now with the straight A [students] who got perfect scores on their SATs and have never read any literature in their life, but they've read The God Delusion? Not [ The Brothers] Karamazov nor Kierkegaard, but a book on string theory or whatever. Science is only gonna suffer for it, but it's also very advantageous to the methods of control that we abandon these 19th and 20th century conceits about the Human, Poetry, and the Word. Fuck the Word! Let's go with the emoji. Everything must be fragmented! All that is fragmented must melt into air!

Not related but interesting

Hudson Brown
Hudson Brown

charls' girlfriend in that scene is a black woman from australia
yeah i'm sure these "alt right" creators just let miscegenation slip right by on accident, right? or maybe they're not the meme nazis retarded twitter liberals make them out to be? nah, that'd be too crazy.

Camden Flores
Camden Flores

LITERALLY THE ONLY SHOW ON ADULT SWIM HIRING WOMEN

Zachary Bailey
Zachary Bailey

charls' girlfriend in that scene is a black woman from australia
that's because he has a thing for black girls, nothing else

Leo Kelly
Leo Kelly

cock insight

Joseph Green
Joseph Green

alt-rightcore is more diverse than any leftist ensemble

Ryder Morgan
Ryder Morgan

Ariel "Grimes is stupid & retarded" Pink
John "I won't disavow some nice guys I once worked with because of your politics" Maus

I hope this event gets shut down, it could potentially start the fourth reich

Sebastian Turner
Sebastian Turner

Anyone got a link to Love is Real?
Nothing alive in the archive.

Grayson Foster
Grayson Foster

Soulseek

Brayden Martin
Brayden Martin

No but I feel like she probably voted for Drumpf
"To be honest, I never paid attention to what the hell was going on. My always voting Democrat was the result of that. My philosophy was and is all politicians are liars, bums and cheats."[12] In the interview, she remained adamant about the need to change the Obama administration.

Xavier Brown
Xavier Brown

This wouldn't have happened under Bush or Romney.

Donald Trump is the ideal package, he's the wet dream of American conservatives and has sold them absolutely everything they want to hear. Do you know what that means? It means if Trump fails, American conservatives have to go right back to the drawing board with what they think the ideal president would be. For years and years the American right wingers have harped on about what's wrong with the country, the government and political elite and they have the answer right there in front of them, sitting in the White House. If Trump fails, it's game over - not for the republicans or the senate or the right-wing in general, but for those individual people hope will be personally and ultimately destroyed because they will never get another candidate like him. Ever. This is it until they die off - one last blast.

And yet, the cracks are already showing, the popular vote is lost, approval ratings are down, scandal runs amock and the country is split - this doesn't happen in normal governments. We're now seeing doublethink words, 'fake news', nazi apologism, conspiracy theories, willingness to throw out the constitution, massive amounts of damage control and denial and now the American people are going as far as to potentially throw one of the most iconic American institutions, the NFL, down the drain to side with Trump - that's how desperate they are for this, this is how badly they want this to be their revolution that finally happens and it's not going to work, the country is too divided - all the things conservatives hate about society are out of the bag and they're not going back in. The main question is whether or not Trump will go out with a nuclear bang or a persecuted whimper and what the residual fallout will be.

Luis Lopez
Luis Lopez

They started stepping over the line a long time ago. Get 'woke' to it, yo. The left is utterly evil and deranged.

Owen Perry
Owen Perry

Did I miss something? Why are people saying Ariel Pink is in trouble?

Ethan Williams
Ethan Williams

James Ferraro and Bones also like MDE

Hudson Moore
Hudson Moore

hes not
some kid on Sup Forums msged ariel saying that fader kid is going to ruin hm

Robert White
Robert White

Is p4k gonna slam all his albums now?

Adrian Young
Adrian Young

the point is, there's a difference between "americans exercising their rights" and "literal insurgents with the mindsets of enemy combatants"

at some point you have to ask, are you protecting the rights of citizens or are you protecting the rights of would be traitors, people who would unironically commit treason if given the opportunity to undermine the america they hate so much. that is gradually becoming the weltanschauung of left wing amerifat politics. t.b.h. the constitution should be amended so that people who denounce the entire foundation of western civilization and the united states are excluded from it. a "you can say whatever you want, as long as it isn't that you want to destroy laws that allow people to say what they want" kind of thing. you can eat pretty much anything on the table, but you're not allowed to flip the fucking table over. that means that people with anti-american sentiments would go underground, which is exactly where they belong, to be hunted down like the cancerous quislings they are. by methods completely within the (proposed) law of course.

daily reminder that mccarthy was right, and that relatively recently declassified documents on the venona project prove the US government was compromised by actual hundreds of commie spies and we are still reaping the consequences of this today via movements in the government and universities

Carter Taylor
Carter Taylor

Ezra we get it. 6 million jews were gassed to death for no reason chill the fuck out.

Josiah Fisher
Josiah Fisher

I hope a McCarthy comes to power and puts you against the wall first.

Blake Williams
Blake Williams

'I want a very large boot to be draw on the Constitution, as I am a fan of licking them.'

Nolan Green
Nolan Green

We're now seeing doublethink words, 'fake news', nazi apologism, conspiracy theories, willingness to throw out the constitution

Yes, from the left. Other than Nazi apologism—from the left we get 'Nazi' fearmongering and witchhunting.

Trump is not the "wet dream of American conservatives." He won thanks to rural, blue collar erstwhile-Democrats. His campaign heavily sold/promised protectionism. He was a Democrat not long ago. Which is fine, but give me a break about him being a paragon of conservatism.

Gabriel Fisher
Gabriel Fisher

Trump is far from a traditional conservative though, that's why he has mike pence to fill in the gaps.

Easton Thompson
Easton Thompson

Sam Hyde's shtick is irony. He's conservative but he exaggerates it to offend the current pop culture establishment moral police of the moment the SJW left and plays the character of an over the top bigot to piss them off. When questioned about it, he just escalates it and doubles down for humor. His whole life is a bit. He's a troll. Shock humor performance artist trying to pull of some Andy Kaufman esque absurdist shit. Watch old MDE videos pre BLM and tumblr pop feminism, he makes fun of Christians, cops, military, authority, bankers, corporations, and other icons of the right wing. There's at least one anti-cop WP sketch that got cut. If they were true blue hard right bootlickers, they wouldn't ridicule these sacred cows. In today's climate though, you can't play it safer than saying "love everyone rights for gays" and "fuck drumpf obama's the best". There is nothing controversial about those statements in the mainstream, and no one is willing to push those boundaries except for Sam Hyde apparently.

inb4 daily stormer donation
Ties into the provocateur persona, he has the money to burn from betting on Trump winning and BTC, and he believes in free speech for anyone and is adamantly anti-censorship.

Julian Evans
Julian Evans

He means Trump is an open racist, sexist, etc. instead of speaking in coded dogwhistle words. That's what they like. He calls out their enemies, says fuck you to the poor, and says things in simple terms they can understand.

His actual policies? More Clinton style neoliberalism than Ted Cruz conservative. His rhetoric? GOP talk show host and FOX persona perfected.

Bentley Turner
Bentley Turner

can't wait until your kind dies out desu

Easton Bennett
Easton Bennett

Trump has explicitly suggested violating the first amendment because people say things he doesn't like, among other things.
Trump's own spokesperson coined 'alternative facts' which is as close to doublespeak as you can get without falling into newspeak.
Many republicans, who are in elected offices, believe that there's a massive cabal of Obama loyalists and they call them the 'deep state.'
Trump's entire vocabulary is dogwhistles.
I could go on.
It's not 'the left.'
'the left' isn't in power.

Elijah Flores
Elijah Flores

can't wait until we throw you out of helicopters

David Turner
David Turner

you're naive if you believe that's actually going to happen

Blake Murphy
Blake Murphy

"The left" controls pop culture and media though
You may not have political power, but you have more influence over American culture at the moment.

Austin Johnson
Austin Johnson

This. Brainlets fail to see how deep his ironic shtick goes. It's almost as if these types of people are uncomfortable with the idea of something that they can't glance at on a surface level and fully comprehend it.
inb4 someone replies with Reddit and Memey intelligence copypasta

Eli Ross
Eli Ross

he's the wet dream of American conservatives
what a fucking retard you are
conservatives hate this motherfucker, he couldnt even cite a verse from the bible
you make him sound like an hardcore evangelical from the bible-belt
ffs like how retarded are you actually?
is this is what you think when you get your opinions from reddit and buzzfeed?

Matthew Taylor
Matthew Taylor

They're kneeling to protest police brutality and Trump
Which is why woke BLM crusader Kapernick openly offered to stop doing it if the NFL re-hired him?
It's a grab for attention and money, nothing more. Period. Trump wasn't even in the public sphere when it started, the media just jumped on another convenient DUMPF'S AMERICA narrative du jour

David Richardson
David Richardson

we
The only thing you throw is Combos into your mouth and cumrags onto your floor.

Jose Lewis
Jose Lewis

the rest of the world has the stereotype of Americans being stupid
No American gives a shit what Yuros snort about us as they invite millions of Somalians into their cities and arrest anyone who questions it.

Camden Edwards
Camden Edwards

I even like Brandon more than Friendo

Grayson Brooks
Grayson Brooks

burzum is soooooo far from alt right

Eli Gray
Eli Gray

national pride = mental illness

Jesus fucking Christ I knew European education really hammers the holocaust guilt into you but this is embarrassing.

Jacob Nguyen
Jacob Nguyen

Hasn't it been almost a year of him basically being unemployed?
Pro sports careers tend to end at an early age.
Everyone has their limit, and he has apparently hit his. His protesting had done nothing but drive down his value. He's gotta make something to live on.

Thomas Watson
Thomas Watson

no way he's going to win ...THIS TIME
yeah just keep on saying it, it's going to start being true ANY DAY NOW

Hunter Price
Hunter Price

at some point you have to ask, are you protecting the rights of citizens or are you protecting the rights of would be traitors, people who would unironically commit treason if given the opportunity to undermine the america they hate so much.

oh that's an easy one: citizens.

Sounds like you're the one against American values with your desire to quell free speech tbqh.

Easton Martin
Easton Martin

Right wing is "the evil rich bad guy party" who hate everyone
I'm not even a Trump supporter but this is embarrassing

Christopher Roberts
Christopher Roberts

Balkanized US when

50% of the country hates the other 50%. How can you call yourself a country at that point? Fucking pathetic. Just split it. Let the hicks live in the Midwest/South and the coasts go to the hippie pussies. Two countries, because we practically are at this point anyway. Were we ever really a united country? I don't know. But we can't keep up the pretense much longer.

Xavier Thomas
Xavier Thomas

I guarantee I have respectfully and properly retired more American flags than you've seen in your life.
I'm a patriot, through and through. Like I said earlier, I'm a veteran, and I'm also an Eagle Scout.
Blind, enforced patriotism does nothing good for anyone except the one enforcing it.

Angel White
Angel White

alt-right memester trump kiddies gotta grow up someday too

Dominic Sanchez
Dominic Sanchez

It'll take a civil war or economic collapse for that to happen, honestly it'll probably happen in 50-100 years.

America's future will probably be Brazil with more money and nukes and that's best case. Worst case it splits into like 5 countries.

Zachary Bell
Zachary Bell

He has more money than any normal person could ever spend in a lifetime.
I think it just makes the whole movement look bad when they present themselves as the enlightened justice-seekers, then their figurehead publicly asks le evil white republicans for some more money in exchange for him shrugging off the whole movement.

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark

if I'm a jackbooted authoritarian weenie because I support the radical notion of protecting free speech against those who would destroy it, I can accept that label. There's no contradiction here. It's not any different from fighting in a war against outsiders who would usurp your entire way of life.

You wouldn't allow a group in your student council whose platform was "we should shut down the student council and install ourselves as the arbiters of ideas". People who want to pervert the very foundations of a free system are pretty much excluding themselves from it by their own definition. The great irony here is that while I'm some alleged anti-freeduns man, the ideology of anti-speech is itself oppressive. There is no way you could have an anti-free speech group come to power that wouldn't enforce the great inequality such people claim to abhor, it's the paradox of egalitarians in which they will bring about equality by . . . an elite party of experts who force everyone else to follow their rules at the point of a gun.

Logan Roberts
Logan Roberts

just build a wall around new england and let the rest duke it out at their leisure

Jack Edwards
Jack Edwards

kaepernick is a total faggot but he has the right to protest. i'm not arguing that. his and other athletes reasoning for protesting is retarded, but they have the right to be a retard and that's what makes america great.

Josiah Adams
Josiah Adams

tfw it bothers me to see free speech being diminished but it's the exact same thing the left has been trying to do for years and has the added bonus of sending them nuclear

Jose Baker
Jose Baker

I support the radical notion of protecting free speech against those who would destroy it
"antifa are the real fascists bro they don't have the right to shut down nazis"

Lol dude

Oliver Nelson
Oliver Nelson

California is the head of the beast. 99% of the social disorder comes from there and flows outwards. Funny because a lot of them are demanding independence from DRUMPFHPFH'S AMERIKKKA as well

Jacob Fisher
Jacob Fisher

whomst've are you quoting

Ryder Price
Ryder Price

you know you're dealing with true pinko scum when they slag on combos and ejaculations

Sebastian Gutierrez
Sebastian Gutierrez

Literally not an argument.
The left is very explicit about defining "hate speech" and making it illegal.

Jeremiah Edwards
Jeremiah Edwards

This

Do I support him? No, I think he's a wannabe Che Guevara/Gil Scot Heron who is a millionaire athlete paid to play a game who hasn't struggled a day in his life but fancies himself as a new revolutionary leader.

Do I think he should be arrested or prosecuted by the government? No, because that's authoritarianism and the antithesis of this country.

Do I think the NFL should suspend him or not hire him? That's entirely up to their organization.

I don't think most people are arguing the government should intervene, they just think he's being disrespectful and his reasoning is stupid.

Samuel Edwards
Samuel Edwards

It's a grab for attention and money

what money

and what about everyone else doing it now too? Yeah they want attention, the whole point is to use their platform to draw attention to the thing they're protesting. The fuck do you care anyway? You still get your football game and no one is genuinely offended except thin skinned crybabies

Ethan Bennett
Ethan Bennett

trump guys want him banned from the nfl because of it tho and want trump to decree it

Jose Hill
Jose Hill

National pride doesn't exist. Countries are landmasses, that's it - there's nothing to be 'proud' of. National pride (or even shame) makes about as much sense as supporting a sports team for anything other than the quality of their play. Nobody chooses where they are born; you can be proud of individuals, but not of a country.

If your country was treating you like shit, you'd move to another country - you wouldn't stay there because you're 'proud' of it. It makes no sense. People and countries are separate entities - governments are selling, we're the buyers - if we don't like it, we go somewhere else and they lose out, it's that simple. National pride is literally brainwashing to make you feel like it's your duty to stay a loyal consumer. It's not a conspiracy, it's dictionary definition brainwashing - national pride is simulacrum, it has no factual or logical basis.

Alexander Jackson
Alexander Jackson

what money
The millions of dollars he gets paid by the NFL?
You still get your football game
I don't give a shit about football, I'm just saying the entire movement is centered around virtue signalling (I hate that term but that's actually what this is), and the one who started it looks like a shallow and money-hungry retard when he offers to back down just as something's catching on

Angel Evans
Angel Evans

The thing they're protesting is whack ass shit though (blm: there's a cabal of police officers scheming and organizing to kill innocent black children, the reason why I can't succeed in america is because I'm black and not because I'm dumb).

They're voicing support for a fringe political movement and using a private organization's platform to do it. I just want to watch football not be bombarded with politics during entertainment, football fans watch for escapism mainly. I don't give a fuck what these 75 IQ concussed meat heads who'll kill themselves at 50 think about world affairs.

Jaxon Harris
Jaxon Harris

I support the radical notion of protecting free speech against those who would destroy it

oh cool then you should have no problem with people doing whatever the fuck they want during the national anthem.

what's anti-free speech about peacefully protesting police brutality? Hate to break it to you buddy but I think you might be retarded.

Isaiah Hall
Isaiah Hall

want trump to decree it
Who cares what they want?
Until Trump actually does something (which he never will as long as he's able to shitpost IRL by insulting everyone he dislikes) the whole FASCIST LITERALLY HITLER AUTHORITARIAN angle has no grounding.

Dominic Butler
Dominic Butler

You don't even understand the definition of "nation". Tip: "nation" != "country", they have been very different things since the beginning of their use. "Nation" is often colloquially misused to mean "country" but no serious academic combines the two.

Leo Fisher
Leo Fisher

It's a sense of unity and a shared culture, language, history, experience, values, (in most countries) ethnicity, etc. that make up a nation. There's more to it than just a landmass.

Bentley Lopez
Bentley Lopez

he has the right to protest.
And the NFL teams have the right to tell him to go eat shit. No one's taken away his rights protest, faggot can protest all day now if he wants lol. He doesn't have the right to be immune from the consequences of his choices.

But we all already know how nogs handle it when responsibility comes into play.

Lucas Ward
Lucas Ward

oh cool then you should have no problem with people doing whatever the fuck they want during the national anthem.

No, I would like free speech to be an inalienable right. Google that and come back.

Ayden Mitchell
Ayden Mitchell

professional
artist
pick one.

Joshua Roberts
Joshua Roberts

leftists still fall back on their pitiful "criticizing someone's choice of how they exercise free speech is the same as being against free speech" equivalency

Easton Mitchell
Easton Mitchell

He is clearly a far right traditionalist.

Ever since he put out the kickstarter tv s1 he can't play they " it's so absurd you can't really tell if I mean it or I'm just trying to make my audience uncomfortable." which was one of the best things about his comedy in the first place.

Brayden Foster
Brayden Foster

I guarantee you are against Antifa because they "shut down free speech" by attacking people who want to suppress it (Fascists, Nazis, white supremacists). You'd say they're a terrorist group for doing the same thing you described. You're a hypocrite and using American values as a cover for your far right policies.

Colton Russell
Colton Russell

Damn bro can't believe you post on this site and still served lmfao did you really think it was just a meme when people on here kept talking about "fighting for Jewish interest" did you start posting here after you enlisted? is that why?

Ethan Hughes
Ethan Hughes

The millions of dollars he gets paid by the NFL?
you mean the money he was already making?

I don't give a shit about football
then shut the fuck up and quit regurgitating pjw talking points

blm: there's a cabal of police officers scheming and organizing to kill innocent black children, the reason why I can't succeed in america is because I'm black and not because I'm dumb

is this what the kids call a "strawman"?

I just want to watch football not be bombarded with politics during entertainment

I'm so sorry you have to put up with the 20 minute political speeches each player gives before touching the football. That must be torture. I too have great disdain for political opinions I don't agree with getting in the way of my escapist fantasy of being athletic

Colton Thomas
Colton Thomas

i agree 100%

i hope the nfl doesn't sign this clown. he sucks at football and is a huge distraction.

Kevin Young
Kevin Young

National pride doesn't exist. Countries are landmasses, that's it - there's nothing to be 'proud' of. National pride (or even shame) makes about as much sense as supporting a sports team for anything other than the quality of their play. Nobody chooses where they are born; you can be proud of individuals, but not of a country.
If your country was treating you like shit, you'd move to another country - you wouldn't stay there because you're 'proud' of it. It makes no sense. People and countries are separate entities - governments are selling, we're the buyers - if we don't like it, we go somewhere else and they lose out, it's that simple. National pride is literally brainwashing to make you feel like it's your duty to stay a loyal consumer. It's not a conspiracy, it's dictionary definition brainwashing - national pride is simulacrum, it has no factual or logical basis.

Blake Barnes
Blake Barnes

pas une argumente

Samuel Fisher
Samuel Fisher

That's basically what they argue
They claim to be against "police brutality" but try to make it a racial issue. If a white kid mouths off and gets beat by the cops, BLM won't say a thing about it. If a black kid mouths off and gets beat, they shut down highways and twitter hashtag

Colton Clark
Colton Clark

yep just googled to double check and basically you don't know how words work. No wonder you hate free speech so much! You're terrible at it!!!

Matthew Moore
Matthew Moore

Then America isn't a nation because it doesn't have any of those things in common

Juan Ortiz
Juan Ortiz

maus new album will get a 5 from p4k

Brody Watson
Brody Watson

Poor John. His tour doesnt go anywhere near me, shit. I want to see him spasm live.

Leo Morales
Leo Morales

No one's taken away his rights protest

that's exactly what the president is pushing for though.

Kevin Morales
Kevin Morales

yeah your mom came here from mexico and shit you out, of course you as a parasite don't share anything in common with the host you're sucking blood from

Carter Ross
Carter Ross

It makes absolutely no odds. "Nation" can mean 'desert island' or 'toothbrush', you can't logically be proud of it - it doesn't make any sense. You can be proud of the accomplishments of an individual, but they aren't exclusive to that "nation". Individuals are individuals and reside on landmasses in civilizations, that's it. There's no intrinsic link between humans and their countries, you can't sensibly be proud of a country because of one or many individuals. If you can't separate those two then your mind is broken and you need to fix it, because it's totally illogical.

You wouldn't be ashamed of your country if it did something bad because those bad decisions are made by individuals, not countries or nations. Those are labels for land-masses and organizational structures within them. You are flat-out stupid if you think otherwise.

Aiden Richardson
Aiden Richardson

paco...

Lucas Green
Lucas Green

too specific to not be projection

Christopher Sanchez
Christopher Sanchez

that's exactly what the president is pushing for though.
and has it worked?

Benjamin Nguyen
Benjamin Nguyen

it's a racial issue because it happens way more to blacks lol

Daniel Peterson
Daniel Peterson

No.

He's not.

Kayden Green
Kayden Green

culture
There definitely is an American culture, it's just commodified mass media garbage exported around the world mostly these days. "Americana" and Southern culture though are examples uniquely traditional American culture.

language
English. Main language is English, you're expected to know it, the buildings and signs are all in English. Don't give me shit about how it's not the "official" language according to the government, you know it's the main language of the country.

history
Definitely

experience
It may vary slightly based on ethnicity and socioeconomic status, but for the most part growing up in America you can relate to another person who grew up here and bond over certain shared experiences that people in another country would not experience.

values
Traditionally America's followed protestant judeo-christian values, but today that doesn't really apply. For most of it's history though, yes, and these values were part of the foundation of America.

Jordan Clark
Jordan Clark

has anything he's pushed for?

Adam Butler
Adam Butler

exactly. no idea why ppl still whine about trump.
he hasn't done anything good or bad. its like obama never left

Henry Thompson
Henry Thompson

ask all those illegals that got sent packing

Henry Diaz
Henry Diaz

Does it? Or is that just the stereotype?
Show the numbers
I'm pretty sure more whites and latinos die from police attacks than blacks.

Joshua Wright
Joshua Wright

look at the bugman, it's trying to think

Justin Hughes
Justin Hughes

Fascists, Nazis, white supremacists
This means literally anyone who disagrees with Antifa.
People in this thread unironically believe that Trump is fighting to ban CK from the NFL, instead of just shitflinging on Twitter like he's done for years. When you base your fantasies of being the "good guy" "underground" "secret resistance" on such a complete misulderstanding of reality, you've given up any right to be considered the sane party.
Answer me this:
How are "fascists" a threat to free speech in the US? Tell me of some recent "fascist" activity that Antifa had to heroically put down.
How are "Nazis" a threat to free speech in the US? What presence do "Nazis" have outside a handful of Stormfag larpers and CIA?
What does white supremacism have to do with suppressing free speech? This sounds like you're just grasping for "bad guys" to lump together.

Nathaniel Baker
Nathaniel Baker

shared culture, language, history, experience, values, (in most countries) ethnicity, etc. that make up a nation.

All subjective. In terms of genetics there is no such thing as a shared ethnicity unless you mean on a species basis. Otherwise you'd be arbitrarily choosing a point in time in which this 'ethnicity' comes into effect. Think about how genetics works and give me the exact date - what exactly is America's shared ethnicity? At what arbitrary point in time do you pick to decide that? When Columbus founded America? When the Native Americans were the majority on the landmass? Neither of those times would have had a pure, singular ethnicity anyway, that's not how DNA works.

David Cook
David Cook

And it has nothing to do with their average lower intelligence or elevated testosterone levels. Those are just silly hate facts and junk science.

Sebastian Lewis
Sebastian Lewis

I am against anyone who believes free speech should not be an inalienable right. A nation (an actual nation, please look up the definition, it's not the same as a country) exists and prospers by remaining a nation. When it fragments into people with disparate values related to natural rights of human beings, it can no longer function.

This classic meme of "if you don't let people try to trample your rights, you are anti-free speech" is an 89IQ popular abuse of jurisprudence because it is ignorant of the concept of natural rights. The biggest example is violence. Pretty much everyone agrees that free speech is limited when violence is involved, you can't threaten someone or endanger them by yelling "fire" in a movie theater. People believe in the natural right to life, and so it is one of the values of the American nation.

By the "you can't stop people from wanting to destroy free speech cuz that's anti-free speech" logic, stopping people from issuing violent threats is also anti-free speech. But that is not how free speech works as defined by our nation. We believe in the fundamental right to life, and so our free speech excludes threats of violence. By that same token, I submit that the right to free speech should be a natural right of Americans. That means that like the idea of violence, the idea that free speech should not exist, should not be protected. Citizens who do not believe in free speech no longer wish to be a part of our national project, they seek to destroy our nation, and so they are ideologically no longer citizens of our nation. It is a shame that they remain de jure citizens, and that the popular misunderstanding of human rights means people think we should allow literal traitors to undermine our Constitution within its own system.

Nicholas White
Nicholas White

Show us any evidence of that.
You can't, because you're lying.

Juan Morgan
Juan Morgan

I am against anyone who believes free speech should not be an inalienable right. A nation (an actual nation, please look up the definition, it's not the same as a country) exists and prospers by remaining a nation. When it fragments into people with disparate values related to natural rights of human beings, it can no longer function.

oh so it's ok for people to speak freely but only if they all agree on everything.

Charles Foster
Charles Foster

Hmm wonder if there's a reason for that?
I'd consider myself reasonably anti-cop but if you've never been through a black metropolis and seen how these people behave, you have no place to talk about them like they're poor victims.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqxaP4t9gEc

Joseph Wilson
Joseph Wilson

At this point I unironically hope he turns into literally Hitler just for the lolz

Brody Hall
Brody Hall

this thred

Nicholas Scott
Nicholas Scott

totally illogical.
You wouldn't be ashamed of your country if it did something bad
kek never heard of post WW2 Japan huh

Andrew Thomas
Andrew Thomas

No, as I have outlined, it's okay for them to speak freely as long as they don't undermine natural rights like the right to life (can't threaten people) and the (ideally natural) right to free speech.

Bentley Bailey
Bentley Bailey

fuggin great ain't it

John Rodriguez
John Rodriguez

Tyler the Creator and Viper like MDE as well

Adrian White
Adrian White

blacks are targeted by police because they're black

lol why does this lie keep getting repeated

Adrian Allen
Adrian Allen

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/917694644481413120
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/918065431939829760
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/917091286607433728

Asher Sanders
Asher Sanders

Because nigga you b rayciss and I deserve free shit nigga fuck u I didnt steal no jordans I took what's mines

Mason Gomez
Mason Gomez

how is kneeling during the national anthem undermining free speech?

Juan Thompson
Juan Thompson

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2016/
936 fatal shootings by cops in 2016
White: 466
Black: 233
Hispanic: 160
Unknown: 62

No dude it only affects black people.

Andrew Parker
Andrew Parker

I didn't say it was.

Wyatt Walker
Wyatt Walker

"race realism"

Isaiah Morris
Isaiah Morris

did you read the article? maus is very clearly not alt right

Jordan Rogers
Jordan Rogers

blacks are targeted by police because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime

Because no reasonable person could have a legitimate problem with the sentence after it was corrected to reflect the truth.

Wyatt Ortiz
Wyatt Ortiz

the black people were targeted unfairly

the whites weren't killed based on race they were killed based on behavior. police roam around black neighborhoods and kill them over minor offenses

Zachary Diaz
Zachary Diaz

then what the hell are you rambling about

Isaiah White
Isaiah White

So it's ok for white people to get killed by the cops if they're criminals, but not black people? Ok I see where you stand got it chief.

Charles Morales
Charles Morales

stop ignoring historical context and what the us government did to black men to keep them down and make them this way. blacks are far more targeted and treated harshly.

Sebastian Myers
Sebastian Myers

the white man keepin me down
Lol fuck off and get a job

Ryan Edwards
Ryan Edwards

People who believe anti-free speech lobbying should be allowed. Which may or may not involve some of these football players. Also somebody mentioned antifa. In general, when you go down the line of left-aligned people you will eventually hit a "the first amendment sux" snag and many people like black football players fall in that camp.

Jace Adams
Jace Adams

blacks are far more targeted and treated harshly.
yeah because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime

Cooper Moore
Cooper Moore

there's a beautiful irony in all the most racist people possible declaring racism as dead and whining about whites' rights being taken away

Do you think blacks act like animals? Ever consider that maybe that's because it's how they're treated every day?

Austin Ramirez
Austin Ramirez

I don't think I've even a single complaint about white rights ITT. Perhaps you are just kneejerking because you saw something you didn't like an assumed it must be that tribe you hate on the internet.

rly makes ya think

Samuel Brooks
Samuel Brooks

How are "fascists" a threat to free speech in the US? Tell me of some recent "fascist" activity that Antifa had to heroically put down.

Trump threatening to suppress people on twitter
The Charlottesville rally comes to mind

How are "Nazis" a threat to free speech in the US? What presence do "Nazis" have outside a handful of Stormfag larpers and CIA?

Nazis advocate for totalitarian dictatorship and censorship/killing of dissenters.
Again, dailystormer, /pol/ (a top 200 site in the world in traffic), reddit, Charlottesville, some of Trump's more radical supporters (so a good 20-30% of the US).

What does white supremacism have to do with suppressing free speech?
It advocates for killing people based on their skin color or silencing them based on that or their political opinion. You people unironically think leftists should be murdered because they disagree with you and that anyone non-white period has to leave your "pure" state even if they've lived there their whole lives and act the same as you. That's suppressing free speech alright.

Levi Martin
Levi Martin

le slippery slope fallacy

god I can't believe I wasted any of my time today feeding you (You)s.

Ethan Ward
Ethan Ward

human evolution is real to some extent
lemme guess... the reason why the average black IQ is dangerously low is because of colonialism amiright guize?!? literally every black country in the world was effected by colonialism right???

Thomas Howard
Thomas Howard

implying you know what that means
implying it was a slippery slope fallacy
implying you don't use the fallacy-fallacy
implying the slope isn't slippery as fuck
implying you even know which posts are mine and that you were replaying to me
implying that germanic tribes were barbarians
implying I ate those (You)s when I'm on a steady diet of (OP)s
implying several more things that I will email to you shortly

Jason Perez
Jason Perez

it's not like a ton of blacks have to live in ghettos and other poor areas where the school systems are total dogshit or anything

Kayden Cooper
Kayden Cooper

Ever consider that maybe that's because it's how they're treated every day?
most black people live in black areas, so you mean how nogs treat other nogs?

kek yeah, sure. that sounds about right

Christopher Wilson
Christopher Wilson

It's not hard to be successful and black and gain respect. Look at most black celebrities, entertainers, athletes, entrepreneurs, or successful figures. They're largely respected by society at large, because they made it, contributed to society in some way, and people are impressed by their achievements. Why would a racist society even allow these people the chance of success to begin with? In a racist society I'd think they'd do everything they could to shut down a potentially successful person of color. However, they don't. They have laws in place mandating you hire a certain amount of people based on race and university admission quotas and scholarships based solely on race solely to help blacks have a better chance of succeeding. A racist society wouldn't allow people it hates so much to get paid millions of dollars to appear on their television screens or sell their art, it'd prevent these people from getting anywhere to begin with. A racist society wouldn't elect a black President. Are there racist individuals in our society and racist attitudes? Of course. Is the country and system itself racist? No. Are most people? No. Is it impossible to make it because you're a minority? No. If it were, Asians (who were discriminated against by the law in the past as well) would struggle. But they are the most financially successful group and have assimilated well into American society. Again, some people might hate or crack a racist joke, but they're mostly condemned by mainstream society and the vast majority of people will respect you as an individual based on your accomplishments no matter your race.

I think many black people in particular have a bit of a chip on their shoulder and inferiority complex and are just lazy/incapable/fall deep into gang/crime life due to pop culture and surrounding influences so they scapegoat white people and blame historical factors for why they can't succeed in a system that largely rewards hard work.

Blake Price
Blake Price

don't forget we're talking about intelligence here not knowledge but you're not wrong about the ghettos and schools. let's just back it up a lil bit. what about them failing to invent the wheel to move towards civilization? or is that a "race realist hate fact" or something

Noah Smith
Noah Smith

In general, when you go down the line of left-aligned people you will eventually hit a "the first amendment sux" snag and many people like black football players fall in that camp.

Give people an inch and they'll take a mile.

let some football players kneel during the national anthem and next thing we know antifa is gonna be patrolling every football game, executing everyone who dares to be un-PC

Christopher Lee
Christopher Lee

My family made $30k a year, I went to an inner city school and got a 3.7 gpa and went (going) to state school for college. I saw so many people fail and just blame everyone else for their problems based on race. I met a lot of hard workers who succeeded too who were black and hispanic and I respected. Hispanics didn't tend to have this mentality as much as black people did in my experience. Even if they're not book smart they'll still bust ass doing labor jobs and shit and do pretty well for themselves.

Dominic Richardson
Dominic Richardson

*smacks lips* shieeet I aint readin allat

Daniel Martinez
Daniel Martinez

big words are for old white men

Connor Morgan
Connor Morgan

60% of the country worships black people and they act like they're oppressed. Liberals constantly suck your dicks.

Nathan Watson
Nathan Watson

no no no, see they can kneel... and we're well within out rights to tell them to get fucked

what don't you understand about this?

these nogs can kneel ALLLLLLLLLLLL they want

they just don't have a right to avoid the consequences of kneeling...

...which is us telling them to go to hell and eat shit

get it? nah?

Jayden Bennett
Jayden Bennett

It is pretty much an open secret that blacks are genetically predisposed toward low IQs. When asked, most geneticists have repeatedly said that genetics are one of if not the most important factors of intelligence. Intelligence is also established to be highly inheritable, these are not edgy opinions. It is also a fact that blacks routinely score lower on IQ tests, although this is a controversial subject because many argue that the tests are rigged against blacks.

The more relevant question today is what exactly should be done about it, i.e. what impact should low IQ blacks have on policy, and how big of a factor does IQ play in a person's success and behavior. IQ correlates with many statistics that show people with higher IQs are less violent, more successful, etc. and again, the causation for low IQ is pretty much genetic, spoken with a nervous grin and disclaimer by sociologists and such. Meanwhile, IQ is an extremely useful predictor and was effectively used by companies in the US for hiring until the practice was banned.

There are some who come out about it, like James Watson, only to be crucified. And note that in the "racist" book The Bell Curve, the facts are rarely disputed (of course sometimes people do try to discredit them) but rather the interpretation. Ultimately, I'm just sayin' that continuing to believe the "whitey made them stupid and violent" meme is pretty much anti-scientific.

Blake Sanders
Blake Sanders

why do white supremacists always bring up asians?

is it like your "i'm not racist i love japan and anime and hentai" thing or what?

it's fucking stupid. just admit you're racist instead of pretending to like asians

Adam James
Adam James

really? most of the country probably doesn't care about black people

Josiah Torres
Josiah Torres

great post

Zachary Cox
Zachary Cox

yo son ain't no asian ever broke into my car and stole my stereo

jus sayin

Carson Stewart
Carson Stewart

white supremacist
I'm not. I just think a lot of black people in America are responsible for their own predicament and scapegoat others much in the same way the far right scapegoats Jews or communists scapegoat corporate businessmen or whoever else.

Also Asians are an example of a minority group doing well for themselves despite historical discrimination. They have been able to assimilate into American culture while still retaining their cultural traditions. And Japanese culture/art is pretty fucking tight tbqh it's better than some Western countries

Jose Torres
Jose Torres

Well I never said the football players should be legally fucked for kneeling, so idk what you are getting at.

Josiah Williams
Josiah Williams

fuck you
go suck daddy trump off and chickity china's penis faggot
white people think they do when it's just mere tolerance. most have no love they ignore our struggle and place in this society think this is their country.

Bentley Green
Bentley Green

why do white supremacists always bring up asians?

they typically bring up japs (and get accused of being weebs) because nips are extremely civilized and not prone to chimp behavior, they are an example of a good non-white. this doesn't apply to all asians, chinks are africa tier insectoids who pull many of the same stunts as third worlders

t. not a white supremacist

Xavier James
Xavier James

stop being racist and sinophobic towards asians my brotha.

Joseph Lopez
Joseph Lopez

Look at most black celebrities, entertainers, athletes

yes we allow the negro on the television box now. Racism = over. Let's not consider the fact that those 3 career choices are, for the most part, the only real options for them that isn't burger flipper. Yeah there are plenty of famous and successful blacks. A lot of them came from rich or well-off families. Affirmative action is there to counter prejudiced policies. Its existence doesn't disprove institutionalized racism

Is it impossible to make it because you're a minority?
Of course not, but the odds are much more stacked against you than for other races.

People of most races are scared of blacks and think of them as criminals, animals, less than human. Imagine being a normal black kid, never done anything bad or illegal, dressing like other kids your age, and noticing how people of other races treat you. Acting sketchy like you're about to steal from them or beat them up. People crossing to the other side of the street because they're afraid you'll mug them. This happens to you every day and you spend your entire childhood feeling like a criminal for no good reason. Would this not affect you?

Bentley Hill
Bentley Hill

tfw you are an attractive fit male stem major musician with a 137 iq who could have unironically had sex with 500+ girls (that's just tinder) but you choose to spend 90% of your free time reading /pol/ threads, getting into political arguments online, watching mde, and going down wikipedia rabbit holes instead

What went wrong in my life
Autism is probably the answer

Ethan Mitchell
Ethan Mitchell

I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN THEY KNEEL

YOU GET PAID MILLIONS TO RUN AROUND PLAYING GRAB ASS

SO PLAY GRAB AAS YOU INGRATES

OR SUCK MY DICK WHILE YOU'RE DOWN THERE

I'M HERE TO BE ENTERTAINED

DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ANYTHING!!!!!!! DUMBASSES!!!

ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hudson Parker
Hudson Parker

schizophrenia and or schizoid personality

quit Sup Forums while you can

Nathaniel Reyes
Nathaniel Reyes

/mu/thread/75685992#p75685992

Luis Brooks
Luis Brooks

I used Sup Forums since I was 11. Far too late dog

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