Welcomed to /IRA/ >Iranians >Azeris >Turkmen >Afghans >Uzbeks >Kurds >Pashtun >Balochi >Tajiks >Ossetians And I guess even >Armenians we have good relations with them.
Literally kill your self Fucking Iranians don't do shit for a thousand years yet think there special
Lucas King
Because it's not "theirs" ?
Tyler Richardson
Javeed shah to be honest
Michael Gonzalez
>ISLAMIC TURKO-PERSIAN KHURASAN REVIVAL WHEN?
Julian Morris
Natural enemies of /ira/: Russhits, Turkshits, Arabshits
in that order
if you disagree, kys
Brayden Cox
Why Russians and Turks
Leo Hernandez
forgot anglos but meh
Robert Flores
Never, fuck roaches.
Andrew Collins
You can even spell Timurid right Also, why the fuck Turks are here?
Jayden Smith
* there's
Austin Ward
*civilizes you*
Heh happy Nowrouz...kid
Thomas Ward
>Uzbeks make one "empire" in the 1400s >that "empire" collapses within 50 years >Uzbeks go back to being nomadic goat herders in the steppes until the Russians finally bring civilization to them
Ian Morris
I support this map, but we get parts of azerbeyjan province and gilan, plus the Persian populated regions of the Persian gulf, iraq, afghanistan and Tajikestan.
Jonathan Fisher
>raises you from barbarism Don't get ahead of yourself little buddy
Jaxson Rivera
Can we discuss Cyrus history please?
Can we all agree that Kurosh II was the most based ruler ever closely followed by Xerxes?
Thomas Cox
Do you thank the Turks for giving you secularism ?
Juan Diaz
Is this general meme tier or will it survive for the foreseeable future?
Michael Thomas
Secularism isnt a turkish invention.
Anthony Lewis
Turkey will be the next Iran aka theocratic shithole
Charles Gonzalez
I just want to see some Iranian flags here. There were 3 iranian posters 1 or 2 years ago or so and they all suddenly disappeared
Dylan Collins
But it spread to Iran from them after Ataturk Yeah but that's not what I asked
Jason Thomas
>followed by Xerxes Khashayar was a total failure from start to finish, at least his father Dariyush actually conquered some land and stabilized the empire after the initial succession crisis.
Who knows, that's why I wanted to merge this general with /sag/.
Turkey may even be worse, at least in Iran evolution is taught as a fact.
Daniel Howard
Nah, it will be the next India. Nominally a democracy but with a heavy tilt towards religion
Ayden Robinson
>Most of Iran's greatest kings and rulers were Turkic post 1000 a.d. >Most of the Army was Turkic >Still believes they did anything useful the last thousand years
Hunter Johnson
"disappeared"
Aka Uncle Khameini got them
Justin Ramirez
the ONLY thing I thank turks for is that they eventually die
Angel Fisher
>Resurrect the Sassanid Persian empire when?
Nathan Nguyen
>Great The only "great" "Turkic" kings of Iran were Shah Isma'il (mixed Kurdish/Pontic Greek/Georgian) and Shah Abbas (half Mazandarani)
Khawarezmids and Qajars were absolute dogshit.
Aaron Phillips
>tfw you speak the official language of the Achaemenid Empire >tfw 99% of Persians will never, ever know tf
Luke Nelson
It didnt spread from them. Both tzrkish and iranian intellectuals were inspired by europeans
Kevin Walker
>tfw you speak the official language of the Achaemenid Empire
You mean Aramaic, aka a Semitic language?
Luis Martin
>in Iran evolution is taught as a fact. doubt.jpg How's India ? Tell me more about it Why the hate ?
Matthew Edwards
>turks
Nah, they didnt look like mongols, spoke Persian, practiced our culture and had capitals in Persian cities, so they werenr turks
Also 30% of uzbekistan is Tajik, we will get our freedom.
>30% of Uzbekistan is Tajik 100% of Tajikistan is Uzbek don't worry we will get our freedom
Thomas Clark
>Most of Iran's greatest kings and rulers were Turkic post 1000 a.d. Nadir Shah was only Turkic in blood
Brody Ramirez
I'm not very familiar with West and Central Asian history Why do Iranian and Turkic people hate each other ? Didn't you share a lot of culture together ? Also Persia was under Turkic rule for a long ass time (that's how Turks got into Anatolia) right ? You MUST have shared some things
Alexander Nguyen
Yes, but what's your point about it being Semitic? It's been somewhat influenced by whatever Medes spoke and then Kurdish, if I'm not mistaken.
STOP PROMOTING SOVIET IMPOSED ETHNONATIONALISM, AL KHWARIZMI IS NOT PROUD
>UNITED ISLAMIC TURKO-PERSIAN KHURASAN WILL USHER IN A NEW ISLAMIC GOLDEN AGE
Justin Ross
>Why do Iranian and Turkic people hate each other ? :^) And it's mostly Iranian's hating Persians
Christian Hall
You can't even compare Iran and Saudi Arabia in terms of education.
Iran, which has a population similar in size to Germany, consistently scores better in the international mathematics olympiad, which is basically the most prestigious high school competition in mathematics. Pretty much every great mathematician was at some point an IMO medalist.
Saudi Arabia on the other hand is populated by a bunch of illiterate goatfuckers.
Charles Gomez
But they dont speak uzbek or look like uzbeks
Evan Peterson
I don't understand
Christian Kelly
This is what Uzbeks look like, not very Turkic compared to Kazakhs and Kyrgyz.
Aaron Long
I'm going to start taking Farsi/Persian at university next term, what am I in for?
Eli Foster
the most useful thing about learning farsi is that arabic will be easier because of the shared vocab and script
LMAO M A O
Hunter Gutierrez
بله، تو ایرانی هستی؟
Ethan Perez
That photo also includes Russians though, right?
Debt
Christopher Smith
Not even bloodline. Most of these turkic rulers were just descendants of people who were turkified as most did not look mongloid.
John Torres
Turks Azeris Turkmens and Uzbeks have interbred with Persians right ? If that's right why do they hate each other then ?
Austin Cook
Actually the class is paid for by a scholarship, apparently someone wants Americans to learn Farsi. It even includes a stipend.
Carson Long
Either the US has more plans for Afghanistan or they're prepping for an invasion of Iran.
Luis Howard
Once Iran kickstarts the anti-Islamic revolution and the antitheist forces conquer Afghanistan and Tajikistan, we can finally become the most powerful ethnolinguistic group in the world.
Camden Phillips
>It's called living in Iran and having a pair of eyes.
So no proof yet again.
Nolan Wood
اره. توی کدوم شهر زندگی میکنی؟
Christopher Hill
No, Iranians basically have no asian dna, therefore we never mixed with turks.
Dont believe the memes.
Nicholas Murphy
>Azeris
Azeris are ethnically more like Armenians than Turks or Persians. They're just culturally Turkic, like the Turks themselves.
Jaxson Roberts
Can we instate mandatory poo shaming in these threads?
Xavier Russell
Rate
Connor Bailey
So what the land that is Tajikistan has been ruled by Turkic people for a thousand years Tajikistan is a meme country created by soviets a country can speak two languages Tajik national Identity only exists because of Soviets Before Russian rule had you asked someone if they wanted Independence they would laugh at you because it didn't exist
>posting a pic of people who play soccer and thinking it shows what Uzbek's look like
kys better pic
Tyler Brooks
>we can finally become the most powerful ethnolinguistic group in the world.
*blocks your path*
Juan King
Bangladeshi bro was very friendly. I just want to live in the same country like him
Isaiah Wilson
The way it works is that original Turkics (from Siberia and East Kazakhstan) migrated to southern Central Asia and mixed with local Iranics there. They then migrated to northwest Iran, mixed again with local Iranics, then migrated to Anatolia and mixed with local Greeks/Armenians.
But Turks themselves base their ethnic identity around language, so they don't really care about bloodlines.
Most Central Asian Turks don't hate Persians, it's the "Turks" of Turkey and Azerbaijan that hate them, usually as a result of a perceived inferiority complex. Usually those types of people hate all non-Turks as a result of some crazy ultranationalism.
Eli Price
Iranian azeris are related to other Iranians, azeris from azerbeyjan are related to armenians.
Joshua Long
commie rats
Isaac Young
Looks like a slightly browner Russian.
Here is a pure Turkic from Kazakhstan.
John Torres
>t. butthurt whitey Yeah I b8ed him tons of times but he never bit. Just bantered back. He's what most posters on Sup Forums should be like
Carson Roberts
Is turkic pussy tight?
Nolan Cox
I know how Turkic people look like Kazakh's aren't even "pure Turkic's"
Jose Rogers
Etobicoke
Fikr mekonam ke shoma ham dar GTA asti
Joshua Johnson
>iran general >0 iran flags
Alexander Johnson
FUCK the chinese
FUCK the russians
Connor Roberts
It's hard to believe Persia has been a gateway for Central Asians If they have no Asian DNA that means that the Aryans that came to the land didin't have an impact either and thus Iranians are just native Middle Easterners assimilated to Indo-European culture They can be like them but no way they are 100% identical Wasn't Anatolia settled by Seljuks ? And then even Mongols ?
No offense I think you two are lying given that you are Iranians Maybe it's because you want to show off that you are superiour to your neighbours even if it's not true
Grayson Evans
Most people on Sup Forums probably are like that. People on imageboards are very picky with what qualifies as banter. Its annoying to type out a post in good humour and be told you're butthurt by the same boring autist you were trying to play off of.
Aiden Williams
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Noah Sanchez
>Etobicoke
Wew, ajab esmi :D
Are, man touye GTA hastam, vali ye kami douram az ounja, touye Oshawa.
> that means that the Aryans that came to the land didin't have an impact either and thus Iranians are just native Middle Easterners assimilated to Indo-European culture
Partially true, Indo-European DNA in Iran is about 25%.
Most genetic haplogroups of Iranians comes from Anatolia/Caucasus, it's likely that the natives of Iran were similar to the natives of those regions.
Aaron Martinez
>Most people on Sup Forums probably are like that. Nah. There's a clear line between braincell destroying butthurt shitflinging and banter People usually say you're butthurt to piss you off, but it's it's easy to see when somebody genuinely is.
Josiah Young
*blocks your path*
Cooper Peterson
What is this supposed to prove ? I don't understand this bloodline autism You insulted Uzbeks Azeris and Turks for not being Turkic And then you show me that Persians aren't very related to Indo-Europeans So why don't you insult yourselves for not being pure then ???
Elijah Rogers
>They can be like them but no way they are 100% identical
They're ethnically Caucasian, like the other Caucasian peoples. Chechens were flattened by the Mongols, yet nobody says they aren't Caucasian.
>Wasn't Anatolia settled by the Seljuks...
In smaller numbers than Turks would like to believe. In the same way that the English aren't actually Anglo-Saxons, the Turks aren't actually Turkic. Millions of natives and Greeks assimilated into Turkishness, without necessarily changing that much ethnically, outside of a few areas.
>Mongols
Ha ha. Mongols were far fewer in number than you might think, even back then. They didn't settle many of the areas they conquered, especially not Anatolia.
>lying given that you are Iranians
You're a Turk, aren't you?
>Maybe its because...
My only interest is in contradicting the national-chauvinist myths that the Turks have been peddling for centuries.
>And then you show me that Persians aren't very related to Indo-Europeans
The difference is that majority of Iranians don't preach unity with Europeans or LARP as Europeans, that's why.
Compared to Turks who pretend like they're actually kin with Central Asian Turkics. I don't see Iranians claiming that British, French, or Russians are "kin" just because our languages are somewhat similar.
>So why don't you insult yourselves for not being pure then
There is no "pure" race anywhere in the world besides maybe Iceland and some isolated islands in the pacific.
Mason Powell
>You're a Turk, aren't you? No I'm ethnically French But according to your logic that means I'm not French since I speak the language of the Romans but my ancestours were Celtic and that I should not be allowed to feel close to Spaniards and Italians which I call bullshit
Carter Rivera
What a retard, let's unite under one banner.
Hello fuckface.
Liam Wood
exactly, so the next time someone yells at you that you are filthy paki poo and need to fuck off from this general, remember that it's just banter
Grayson Hughes
>tfw no neo-Seljuk union
This would probably fix most of the conflict and durka backwardness in the region.
Camden Anderson
Turkish-Iranian union
YES!! Can we btfo Arabs?
Kevin Jackson
Why Iranians are so butt-blasted? Maybe even virtually.
Jeremiah Ward
Morning friendos
Josiah Green
Sob be kher, kuni-jan :D
I'm surprised that these threads are still around, thought it would die after the first one.