bunny is uggo
For a while now, a horrible cancer has been infecting the world of k-pop – the obsession with “talent”. I put “talent” in inverted commas because when people talk about “talent” in k-pop in either a positive or negative sense, they usually only ever talk about one thing, which is singing ability. They tend to ignore other talents that actually matter a lot more for career advancement and industry success in the world of ultra-commercial idol pop, such as:
Looking good on stage
Dancing (sometimes also factored in when people discuss “talent” – but rarely)
Looking good on TV
Looking good in front of still cameras (i.e modelling)
Talking to the media (if you don’t think this one matters, just ask anyone in KARA)
Looking good in a versatile way for different outfits to use in different concepts
Emotional labour (what air hostesses do – keeping the happy facade up, smiling constantly when you’ve had a shit day etc, ask f(x) about this one)
Looking good even in airports
Fellatio technique (just ask [insert your bias here])
Looking good even in a car accident (or else)
Behind-the-scenes talent that supports your talent (songwriters, producers, stylists, choreographers)
Looking good at all times
It also helps if you are attractive.
The obsession about vocal performance always seems odd to me when we’re talking about the idol pop genre, a genre of music where the #1 most successful female idol group of all time was The Spice Girls and the most successful solo singers of all time in their respective genders were Elvis Presley and Madonna. I thought it would have been fairly obvious to anybody with their eyes even half-open that outstanding vocal performance was kind of an optional requirement at most. In this context it’s easy to see why k-pop companies don’t bother to train their artists too hard in vocal performance, they’ve sensibly worked out through market research that it’s not something that’s really needed.
are we ready for the greatest holiday release of all time?
is this Jihyo or Tzuyu? I can't even tell because of the amount of photoshop.
I love Irene.
remove nayeon, cub, jihyo, and tzuyu
there i fixed twice
you missed a spot
yes i am ready for jeongers in a gee outfit
twice is unfixable
All I want for Xmas is Tzuyu
WORD. I love Winter Tae
i want it NOW
the group needs a rapper and despite the memes she is actually funny
Why would you paste this whole article here?
remove two of the most popular members
yeah seems like a good idea. how about remove twiceboy and momo since they barely do anything.
this has all of their fancams for this dance break. feel free to disagree but jimin puts the least amount of that extra something into it, he's a toptier dancer but the personality doesn't come through most of the time (inb4 perfect man, I'll give him that one)
Your face is unfixable
why would you need to fix the best girl group in the game by a mile? worry about your own group homie...
she's a talentless hack you just have a child-like sense of humor
he looks like a kid there
lol you seem bitter. did your faves flop again?
attention! haseul is beautiful, thank you!
twiceshitters are the trump supporters of kpop
twiceboy and momo
they barely do anything
the best singer and the best dancer, respectively
Do you guys buy albums?
For a lot of groups or just one?
watched it as soon as they uploaded it
what do you mean... buy..
iu knows what's good
Attention!, Heejin loves me , thank you
omo bacon and egg
Like physical albums with photocards and stuff.
this announcement saved my life
implying anything was broken in the first place
twiceboy better singer than jihyo
idg this momo is the best dancer meme. she doesn't dance any better than the other members and her "dance break" in likey was disappointing but nobody wants to admit it. mina, jihyo and tzuyu are better dancers for god's sake
Like actual physical albums? Or digitals?
*blocks your path*
give it to me straight kpg: which is the best loona release so far
fuck not this again
you're a retard
yeah but she started to congratulate exo when bts won an award lol
Doesn't everyone have a streaming service for digital stuff?
I KNOW ITS UUUNFAAAIIIIR
Tzuyu is like the ultimate visual
E O M M A Y A
I assume everyone has 2 or 3. Still a lot of stuff is still missing from western streaming services.
i laughed at your comment does that make me a child?
he actually thought this was funny
singing in the rain
are your memes always this stupid?
Are you getting some kpop related stuff for christmas?
i don't get it
When did Shaw join Twice?
don't worry about it
Apple Music has everything except ultra nugus and some of the indie stuff.
Apple Music sucks ass though.
best song on the album but not soty
let me in, sitr, eclipse
new, vivid, lcm
around you, vivi's song, kiss later
word this is
i'm getting this for myself
Yeah not even going to waste time with Apple Music. I'll just deal with the other services having mediocre back catalogs
kookie's the luckiest fanboy
I'm not army and I love spring day
let me in is too high and vivid is god tier
best exid release oty but there were definitely better songs overall
Christmas is great
ha! i'll just see myself out.
@ me when kpg gets taste.
Imagine conceptualizing this, actually making it, and then looking at it and saying 'yeah, THIS is good enough to post!'
giving ten a subunit for christmas
our guys are shinee though
imagine being a shookt ass twiceshitter lmao
KARD released song
kpg didn't told me
The Soshis seem to like Birch forests. I remember a Yoona set with a lot of birch trees.
But milk is better
lol but ten isn't
ten more like nine
not blocking jihyo
you cannot be this stupid
And SuJu minus the murderer and wife beater
jihyo is one of the top visuals twice has to offer currently
our guys are a.c.e tho
t. weightlifting fanatic
night rather than day was a jam in retrospect
Gayest comment of the day, congrats
twice antis are chicks. chicks can't meme
once again, you cannot be this stupid
Rec me a good album to listen to.
Must be a group that sings more than raps.
kek they never have anything original to say
onew did nothing wrong
never underestimate how desperate twiceantis are
talks about taste
Probably the funniest moment ever. I love the disappointed look on Jihyo's face when her OWN FANS called her a weightlifter
you're that same roastie that always puts lmao after all your posts even though they're cringy af
name is ten
if they add him to 127 he'll be the tenths member
it was meant to be
loona/odd eye circle - max & match
9 is the perfect number tho
is it really true that jihyo is considered a visual hole in twice by once
exidbros which songs from eclipse and full moon would make the perfect album?
he says while posting one of the uggoest members of plagiarismteen
who said RV couldnt break 100k
Eclipse is one of the better girl group albums in a while. Almost as good as Street.
k-hiphop >>>> k-pop
cute kid on the right
her and nayeon usually get the most criticism for being uggos from knetz
we did it reddit!
that superjunior sales
what the fuck
171205 [Hanteo] Red Velvet #PerfectVelvet 24:00 KST: 2xx copies. Total accumulated: 63,6xx copies.
40k albums more
apparently elfs or whatever still exist
feels great to know i was one of those sales, they deserve it!
1. boy (extended ver.)
2. 덜덜덜 (instrumental ver.)
6. too good to me
4 best members aren't korean
what did jyp mean by this
ddd boy velvet alice
Noona ELFs strong
jittery tunglr gif swiped off google images
busted old grandpas
waving her fat padded tits around makes her a top visual
tfw EXID is the last decent slutpopish group we have left
never saw this coming
lol they don't have 100k sales yet
both solos from eclipse + everything from full moon except durr durr durr and the last track
Black Suit is unironically one of the better songs of the year.
gaon is what it's counted to year-end awards
hanteo is just for show wins
tfw ywn >tfwnoiugf with the little golden lad
what did you expect from elfs
Missing How Why and Milk.
it's really great, i agree. sm has been really good this year to us
Don't give up on Dal Shabet yet
how much is sm paying you
Because it's relevant whenever a vocalfag starts acting up.
BTS crystal snow
Taeyeon christmas album
Exo winter album?
he pays us with good quality content
7 songs seemed excessive, they're good though
you underestimate the power suju still have, just like other old groups like sechskies, shinhwa and tvxq
Gonna have to disagree on that one
not him but i shill sm groups for free
i haven't but the unit iced them for a while. i'm hoping they will have a comeback early next year to ride the mediawave from the show
every song in eclipse + DDD and Too good to me
Is this retard honestly bashing Elvis Presley's singing ability? The man had the most golden voice of all time
he's never leaving the dungeon
And that's without Ryeowook and Kyuhyun. Once they come back I could see them doing a repack.
what is it about irene? i don't even like rv
Name an idol who is more based than Heechul
Protip: you can't
Jeonghwa is so underrated
they don't call her hot body for nothing
she's a butterface
This was never in doubt though
joy was the real star of mama
he actually read it
rich man's pinky
It's fun watching her sing along to most of the performances. She's a genuine fan of a lot of kpop artists.
Artist of the year!
she makes yeri and irene look like squids
Dude her face is flawless
sure seems like it
nice toes and palette was 10/10
he's not an idol anymore he's an actor
i'll gladly support and shill for many sm groups but i'll die for red velvet if needed, they give me life
and wendy too, i'll die for wendy
Every single one of you deserve to die a horrible and painful death
IU is saving kpop
i like it, 25, etc
you gay bro? sure seems like it
wording this but i would add boy
i didn't really like the instrumental or vocals on this track
I skimmed the article. I agree with the general thesis actually that there's a huge spectrum of attributes that make up idol talent that people overlook when saying an idol lacks talent. I've always said that Sana, though not a great singer, is still one of the more talented idols, for the reasons that person listed. She'd be a superstar in any group.
But the guy completely discredits himself when talking shit about the king, who was objectively an amazing singer. He exposes himself as completely talking out his ass.
what's a miracle is how dumb you are lmao
only the chorus with the computer voice is bad
hani and jenny sound really good in it
Taeyeon and Heechul are like brother and sister though
The only Yoongie I fuck with is in B T S
Did you hear Flower bookmark 2?
IU does charity by attending award shows and they still dont give her all the daesangs.
Imagine not finding Jeonghwa attractive. Imagine being that gay
i think it works really well as an intro
it wasn't bad it just wasn't as replayable as the other songs for me
she only attended the one thats owned by her company
yeah this is a really good track
i fucking love sana again!
Tae crashed into two people and she didnt apologise how is that not the most based thing ever
seven seunghees singing
six hyojungs baking
five golden arings
four yooa dances
three jiho screenshots
two mimi raps
and a binniebird in a pear tree~
holy shit i didn't know about this
Hani and Jeonghwa stepped up their visuals a lot this comeback and LE and Hyelin were their usual great rapping great vocals.
boy (extended ver.)
does this exist?
word they're so fit this year
What are you even trying to insinuate?
IU was by far the most popular artist this year and she's one if not the most popular singer in south korea
Dubu antis are the saddest people in the world
What's their deal?
exid have been boring for 2 years
heechul wearing a shirt with his face on it
girl front and eclipse
new was good when it was new tho
IU was by far the most popular artist this year
not even worth my (You)
still hasn't replied explaining his reasoning
that's what i thought, pussy
they're jealous that she's funny and they're not
the absolute madwoman
They only send her to events she's guaranteed to win a big award though.
The chances she would've gotten SOTY or AOTY at the MAMAs were zero.
eclipse by far
She could release 4 minutes of fart noises and she would get an all kill.
gimme that gimme that
cub is a really good singer. they should move onto vocals more and use momo for more raps
IU is the digital titan, are you forgetting that?
they really need more mimi raps. last album only had one little short one total
What exactly dont you understand?
Those awards are clearly biased towards idols.
iirc she wasnt even nominated.
not this year
Convenient that the MMAs are the ones focused on digitals.
all the girls are looking pretty, and there\s jeongers dressed like a straight up gangster
What's the name of the radio show they were on?
and the melon awards, owned by LOEN (IUs label), isn't biased at all
cub is a really good singer
Exactly. I like IU and I liked Palette but to pretend that MMAs were somehow unbiased is nonsense.
Still I'd kill for an IU-Taeyeon collaboration some day.
they're all so fucking hot
Those awards are clearly biased towards idols.
and IU isn't an idol..?
Just accept it fags, IU is saving kpop , even twice knows it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlhTMOzy1qY
IU has the most downloaded album and song of the year
You're trying really hard.
im trying really hard with facts? what?
you iushitters have gone off the deep end
i feel like everyone wants this, it's just way too obvious. it would be the collab to end collabs
already happened with lovelyz
Thanks I was looking for this image
lol, how so?
i bet its the same idiot who tried to claim that mamamoo weren't idols either
that's what people said about iu-gd and that was just okay
obviously taeyeon is way better though
dreaming radio? here's the full link:
Koreans dont consider her as one anymore.
loen owns melon
iu is from loen
its clearly rigged
Just accept it faggot.
No matter the online votes or the massive fandom shitting up awards, what matters is what the korean public listens to.
i love these radio shows. it's awesome that twice is back after looking like it was gonna be a really short promotion. what a brilliant fake out. i hope they do more variety shows as well
Koreans dont consider her as one anymore.
uhh yes they do
owns the road
releases music after pissing everyone off
chills with jp imperialists
kicks group members out
hits the gym 4x a week
eats with mouth closed
only interested in young children and ahjussis
chills with sluts
writes her owns songs
plays with slime
my voice > palette
iu is so beautiful goddamn
this is peak wendy right here
Word, it'll be hard to beat that
IUshitters have always been some of the most delusional fans, and they can't take criticism of their precious idol very well (they reported every negative post about her here during the zeze controversy)
anyone else remember when IU was a regular on Taeyeon's radio show?
I literally can't even remember one song from My Voice, it was bland af
then again, a wendy-taeyeon collab would be the collab to end my collab
Stay mad fag
weird i dont remember anything off of palette, including the title song and i love GD and IU
12 days of uggos
the most important talent is being able to please sponsor and ceo-nim
taeyeon is a miracle of the universe, holy fuck her radio shows were legendary
No, they dont.
Keep up with the netizens, grandpa.
Shes an artist and writes her songs.
Is this all you can come up with?
No they're good
Make Me Love You, Fine and Cover Up were all pretty good
they dun like TEH D O O B E H
i love the fact that this will probably be subbed within the next 24 hours
so was the cause of the crash ever determined
cub is a really good singer
she could be the taeyeon of twice dbh
yes, they do
who is this?
you're the one who reported everyone, too
funny that you're avatarring now, hmmm
I want wendy on an epik high track.
i only remember the title. my voice got more plays than palette tho
you aren't criticizing though you're just making shit up
tae's a jack of all trades but iu's a master of one
there was more range with my voice but palette was so much more cohesive
saying loen owns melon is made up?
and whenever someone says they dont like palette, they throw a temper tantrum and more often than not randomly start going after taeyeon for whatever reason
epik high is great. i'd also love for anyone to collab with DEAN
saying she only wins awards because of her company is retarded
she won best female artist at mama, i guess iu is under mnet now?
I bet she loves texting after growing up without it
so now its retarded, not made up
make up your mind
what are some good ones from IU?
I only listened to the Gdragon one that was really boring and never got around to the rest but i'd like to get to the rest.
I did like really like Make Me Love You, 11:11 and Fire from Taeyeon's
second person sounds cool
The judge ruled it as just an oops lol accident.
They dont but keep going.
I have literally no idea what you're talking about
if you dont like the GD song you wont like anything else, they are much more boring
Tae is still developing her sound as a solo artist.
I think both IU and Taeyeon are great artists but I don't think they are trying to do the same things right now.
it's both retarded and made up
not mutually exclusive concepts
so now melon isnt owned by loen
it didnt go to court, its a fucking accident there are hundreds a day
taecunt gets away
I want an iu hyuna collab that's what I want
are you dyslexic?
with what? she didnt commit a crime
IU is definitely not going to be most of KPG's thing. I respect her doing something different with Palette because it was getting her out of her safe space.
I'm not even sure what argument you're trying to make anymore.
You're acting like she's the only one who doesn't go to awards where she isn't going to win anything.
lol wtf is that shag rug sweater
I said oops and lol, why would you respond seriously.