>the planet from the first movie is conveniently inhabited now, although for some reason NOT on the place where the Engineer's ship is, but close enough for some happy-go-lucky hippie couple to discover it >the colony conveniently gets BTFO at the same time Ripley is found by the jews >Ripley actually trusts the scoundrel jew when he tells her it's a "seek & destroy" mission >space marines are fucking terrible >Vasquez is literally the cringest character ever >bad, outdated jokes and bootcamp music in a sci-fi movie, let that sink in >"illegal alien" joke (DUDE ____ LMAO) >everything is rushed, some shots are nifty but Cameron doesn't let it last for too long, no, we must suffer the presence of MUH MARINES and shitty action >again, every death is an on-screen death, everything is "jump scare + cut", fuck that >almost every male is either weak or bad at his job >terrible effects during shootouts >xenos and just big bugs now, as referenced multiple times during the build-up >they only sent like 10ish marines to fight the aliens, lmao >little girl conveniently survived the xeno mayhem because Ripley needs someone to compensate the loss of her daughter >the film just isn't scary
This movie is even worse than Terminator 2. You need your heads checked if you unironically love Aliens and/or find it a good movie.
all of the suspense was taken out of the first one, we know how the xeno life cycle works
I'll refute your 5 best points, don't green text them
Owen Gonzalez
>all of the suspense was taken out of the first one, we know how the xeno life cycle works
That's a cheap cop-out, true filmmakers would try their very best to keep suspense and horror instead of making a 'Nam movie in space loaded with cliches and generic tropes.
Cameron Murphy
You sound like you're in your teens, trying to impress Sup Forums with your dismissive, too-cool-for-skool points. You just posted a list of things you thought you could spin in a negative way. Can't you do something better with your time?
Jackson Hughes
I'm not a teenager, thank you very much. But you are kind of dumb for defending this stupid movie without trying to argue even one thing. Pleb.
Ian Reed
but what does that accomplish?
people went into alien with a blank slate, they didn't know about the facehugger, they didn't know what the xeno looked like
I like that aliens didn't just follow every horror franchise, and redo the first story, and then have 8 other sequels
Fox already wanted to take it in another direction before Cameron was involved
Brody Gutierrez
I like Aliens better than Alien
Alien was boring as fuck
Gabriel Martinez
alot of your points go down to dramatic effect desu, if you wanted realism about a film science fiction film where people fight aliens, then you will never be satisfied
Isaac Lewis
It needs no defending. Especially not from someone like you.
>>Vasquez is literally the cringest character ever >>"illegal alien" joke (DUDE ____ LMAO) Of course you are a teenager. And if you really are in fact older then I must say it's rather sad that these points represent the peak of your argumentative rhethoric.
Owen Myers
You know how Prometheus was Scott's shitty prequel to Alien?
I hope one day Cameron makes a good prequel to Aliens.
Dylan Gonzalez
I can see how some of your viewpoints, but I think one important factor that you seem to miss out is that this film was came upin 1986, that is 30 years ago. Many of the things in this movie were at the time very new, but today everything original in this movie has been reused and recycled so much in other movies and in video games, that the originality in Aliens is lost on, I'd say, most people today.
For instance, the whole space marines gig, is that prior to Aliens, the depiction of soldiers in sci-fi was closer to Flash Gordon and zapping guns, rather than the more realistic and gritty style that the marines in Aliens have.
Bentley Harris
Huge Alien fan, but Aliens was complete shit
Cameron's a hack
Josiah Flores
lol he's too busy making 3 more avatar movies.
By the time he's done with that he's retiring
Andrew Powell
I really like how the short film about the David android (look it up on youtube) is way better than the entire Pormetheus film (at least the cinematic version).
Owen Walker
>The company knew the alien ship was on that planet, they settled it in hopes of finding it but the distress beacon had been turned off by this point
>No idea where it was until they got the data recorder from Ripleys lifepod, they copied the data then erased it so during her trial she had no evidence to back up most of her story
>The unprofessional space marines, and their rookie officer where specifically chosen for the mission so they would fail
The company wanted to see if they would be viable weapons against unruly colonies and armed soldiers
The company didn't count on the marines smuggling in armour peircing ammo inside a fusion reactor
Colton Evans
>3 more avatar movies 4
Kevin Bailey
I really like how the short film about Peter Weyland (look it up on youtube) is way better than the entire Pormetheus film (at least the cinematic version).
Brayden Bennett
>This movie is even worse than Terminator 2 people are actually responding to this thread seriously, lol
Asher Stewart
Aliens is fucking trash and so is James Cameron
Brayden Rivera
Reminder that aliens>alien>terminator 1>terminator 2 If you disagree you need to get the fuck off my board
Gavin Howard
I thought you were lying. Just checked google, absolute madman
Samuel Parker
@76780143 Never seen a more attention seeking post. Even a trip is on
Ian Russell
aliens is literally the worst movie on that list, faggot numale
Alien > Terminator > T2 > Aliens
Gavin Ross
I never really got that idea about the soldiers' behaviour. I just thought that the marines being "space cowboys" was some sort of commentary on how the military of the US is essentially just people who are in it for the money and do not really care about the assignments or greater scheme of the military's operations. I mean, the first line that is uttered by any of the privates aboard the Sulaco is "They don't pay us enough for this shit.", when the hypersleep is deactivated.
Christian Hughes
Aliens = T2 > T1 > Alien
Alien is overrated.
Eli Miller
wrong
Aliens = T1 > T2
Alien is terrible
Julian Green
you realize they weren't sent there to kill the xenos, but to have a soldier be a host and then frozen?
they're seen as just petri dishes, why should they care?
Jayden Gomez
Hi! I'm OP and I'll will critizice this 30 years old movie on 2016's standards!
Liam Rogers
I can totally see that, but I always thought at it was initially Burke who came up with the idea about getting the xenomorph back to a lab, but that it wasn't him that arranged the ENTIRE thing with the soldiers. Rather I thought that he was some lower level manager at Weyland-Yutani that finally saw an opportunity to back it big.
Sebastian Martin
Are Pandorum and Cargo good?
Nolan Lee
>tfw you read the aliens: engineer script and it was 10x better than that shit Prometheus movie
What the fuck was RIdley Scott thinking?
That script was perfect for an Alien prequel yet he decided to ruin everything
Gabriel Reyes
pandorum is bretty good, worth a watch
Wyatt Brown
na
Mason Brown
you're an idiot
Ayden Rodriguez
>short film about Peter Weyland the TED one?
Sebastian Davis
I've watched Pandorum, I thought that it wasn't good. I liked the idea behind the movie, but the entire plot is played out as if the script was pieced together from various bits found in the trash bins around the shared office of screnwriters. There is a little bit of this, of that and of other, but not enough of one thing or theme, which I though hurt the overall experience.
Luke Powell
no, the Nolan one
Julian Perez
>the planet from the first movie is conveniently inhabited now, although for some reason NOT on the place where the Engineer's ship is, but close enough for some happy-go-lucky hippie couple to discover it >the colony conveniently gets BTFO at the same time Ripley is found by the jews
I don't know if you realize, but planets are generally pretty big.
It's also thoroughly explained in the movie that Burke sent Newt's family to the ship based on the information Ripley gave him
he deliberately caused the alien outbreak because he wanted to bring one back to corporate
Colton Baker
The "Aliens dosnt have suspense" meme was never true or funny.
Pandorum isn't good. Story is good enough, but it has really bad production values. It looks more like a scifi channel movie than a 30 million one, studio that did it went broke.
>dumb stupid retarded OP is trying to trash on a 30 year old classic action movie
It's not as good as Alien but it's still a fine flick for its time
Owen Diaz
I see what you did there... The TED one is good too, but I really like the one about David.
Ian Davis
do you know the story behind it? the writer wanted to make a movie about prisoners on a space ship losing their humanityon no budget, somehow word spread and the director merged his different story about astronauts with amnesia into it.
John Collins
fuck off pleb
Julian Jackson
That explains alot about the movie, but the result is bad none the less.
Cameron Taylor
>Cameron will never direct the Battle Angel Alita Trilogy
it hurts...
Logan Evans
The biggest problem is, literally every scene in Aliens serves as a plot-mover, fucking hack Cameron didn't know how to sacrifice few scenes here and there to create a more horrorlike atmosphere. Hacks don't realize not every fucking scene must serve as a plot-mover.
Noah Peterson
That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
Brandon Watson
You're a troll
Daniel Lee
How old are you? Genuine question, not trying to bait you or make fun of you. How old are you?
Jordan Rodriguez
That's because you're an idiot. James Cameron = Michael Bay.
Grayson Foster
>scenes irrelevant for plot >Sup Forums complains >scenes relevant for plot >Sup Forums complains i'm not even surprised anymore
Colton Clark
Just click on the post number to reply, cockfool
Chase Allen
concerning your first point, the movie takes place some 200 or so years after the first one. WY did become aware of the alien's presence through plundered logs from where they found Ripley idly floating through space. Vazquez is pretty cool. The movie shows you the jew is evil, it should always be named and left to die because of its own trickery. You're right that it's not scary, but it's still one of the greatest action/horror films ever made.
Lucas Price
Mid-20s. I'm also The Thingfag, if that helps. I love Alien but dislike Aliens.
Angel Davis
>the movie takes place some 200 or so years after the first one
Nope, 57 years.
Eli Howard
Loved Alien, really didn't care for Aliens even a tiny bit.
Leo Collins
>I don't know if you realize, but planets are generally pretty big.
But not big enough to make the colony on the other side of the planet instead of close to Engineer's ship.
Jordan Allen
shit, you're right. anyway, that's still enough time for a colony to be established
Xavier Young
>Using memes to criticize a film I found a nice cozy spot for your opinion.
Brandon Peterson
>trying to impress Sup Forums
Angel Gray
But why on that planet?
Owen Rodriguez
I saw the movie in 1996 and still wasn't impressed. And why? Because by that point I had already watched tons of war movies. This one just happened to have some bigass bugs in it.
Grayson Bennett
consult with weyland-yutani, i don't know. wasn't the purpose of that colony for it to become infected anyway?
Luke Taylor
Just started reading it. At page 14 now. Feels like this is gonna make me mad. Should I read on user?
Jack Powell
>OP's found footage
Joshua Garcia
So many other works have copied it or been inspired by it that unless you saw it within the first few years of release, it's not going to seem as impressive to you.
Starcraft and Halo for example. Two huge franchises in gaming, and both heavily inspired Aliens.
Jacob Harris
I haven't watched either 3 or Ressurection, are they worth the time Sup Forums?
Joshua Bennett
If you like the series I'd say watch them. They're definitely a step down, but they're not downright awful.
3 is probably the weakest, but it is a little closer to the first film, as there's only one xeno.