Why is german club football still so shit although we have so much great youth?

Why is german club football still so shit although we have so much great youth?

Its not like with the french youth, that mostly plays abroad, they all play in the Bundes.

Why cant germany turn its talent into a great league like Spain does?

our league is ok enough
also we have Teamgeist and Kameradschaft in our NT, others don't

Buyern buys the best league players each year and then benches them.

this sounds painfully plausible 2bqhwy

Bayern Munich just buy out all the competition in the Bundesliga. It's similar to what Juventus do in Serie A. La Liga at least has two teams that can are significantly ahead of the rest, so even if they buy out the competition it will still be a close race between those two.

You only have one team and most of the nt plays in it
It's really not fait

How many of yesterday's winners have played for Bayern?
Weiser and that's it.

gnabry??

You're fucking dumb. Or can't read. Or both.

Also, when they won yesterday, the German team had technically no Bayern player, since Granatbry's contract starts today.

Both chase foreign superstars too so they don't always seek to monopolise Spanish players like JJ and Buy'em do.

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Great youth because the BL is a bit shit, if it was like the PL they would't play. La Liga is ideal for club success + national success because it has 3 big teams that compete for the cl and a lot of shit teams that allow local youth to develop

dortmund is why the Bundesliga can't compete, they wine instead of putting together a competitive squad, always two good signings away from world class, but instead they sell their best and invest in youth+mediocrity, it will never work

J-Jürgen? Ch-Charly?

implying all the teams in germany don't play exactly the same to prepare them for when they play with bayern
the whole league is bayern's second team

>Why is german club football still so shit although we have so much great youth?
It's not.
>Why cant germany turn its talent into a great league like Spain does?
kek

debt level of german league: close to zero

debt level of spanish league: massive

Now take a guess who'll get fucked it in the end...

central european tax payers

>Why is german club football still so shit although we have so much great youth?
Because out of 18 teams in our league, 15 think Gegenpressing is the only playmaker you need.

Can't win any titles if all you know to do is Pressing and running and you break your legs if you need to build an attack and create chances.

...

This desu. I think a big part of the German success is team cohesion, that allows you to always go far in tournaments.

>always two good signings away from world class

players would still leave eventually though. buyern are and always will be a top 5 club in the world, nothing dortmund or anyone else can do about it

thats bullshit though, except for Bayern basically the whole league is in constant financial trouble and several clubs went or almost went bankrupt in the last couple of decades, while i cant remember a single spanish club going bankrupt.

the reason why clubs go bankrupt in germany is actually because our league doesn't allow for clubs having too much debt and having financial trouble in first and second bundesliga doesn't mean that you're kneedeep in debts, but that you're struggling to avoid violating dfb rules. so your reply is the steaming pile of bullshit here.

>while i cant remember a single spanish club going bankrupt
That's because they don't have to pay taxes

It's because of clubs like Schalke, Wolfsburg and HSV not getting their shit together.

Doesn't that just make it even harder for smaller clubs to compete when they can't invest freely? The FFP model only seems to punish ambition

>Claim to be le financially stable league like its a title
>Actually be the most heavily commercialised league in whole Europe
>Bayern Munich, BVB and most other clubs are literally corporations, not sport clubs
>Almost every club in Bundes has some huge corporation providing them with money
>VW for Wolfsburg
>Bayer for Bayer
>SAP for Hoffenheim
>RedBull for Leipzig
>Kühne for HSV
>Daimler for VfB
>Adidas and Audi für Bayern
>Evonik and Puma for BVB
>Gazprom for Schalke
etc. pp.
>still struggle financially

Meanwhile in Spain
>all clubs are pure sports clubs, no corporations
>all clubs are well managed and financially sound
>no big investors needed

lol

I'd say Bayern are a big part of the problem (if you see it as that)

But without one or team very dominant teams hoovering up the talent you're going to go the way of England

Competitive domestic football or competitive teams in Europe is the choice really

brazilian and french players are all over the place yet have good national teams though

I think Chelsea, ManCity and ManUnited can all compete in CL.

meant how English teams do in Europe not national teams

>no big investors needed
Arab sheikhs aren't big investors? I had no idea.

England had the period of 2005-2012 where there was at least one English team in the final every year but for 2010 but the last 5 years suggest that English teams aren't up to scratch in the CL anymore

which club is owned by arab investors?

Who said anything about owned?

Posting net debts

what a giant load of shit

yeah sure bayern play with a libero these days like frankfurt, hoffenheim etc

And debts ratio.

Post bundesdebts now to compare

>Valencia
What went so wrong?

hey you fucking shitbag

Question:
How do you prefer ñ to be written if the tilde character isn't available?
n, nj, ni?

>great league like Spain

top jej, German league is 205x more interesting to watch than faggot 2 club Spain league

First, it's not a tilde, you macaco. Second, if Ñ isn't available then you should remove yourself from typing text and/or directly remove yourself from the premises.

The only other somewhat acceptable alternative, only in absolute case of emergency, is this (slavic?) Ň

>~ isn't a tilde
fuck off, Inaki

Shit management. They bet on spend moneys--->achieve success--->increase income, and step 2 didn't work.

Then Peter Lim stepped in to rescue them, try to gambled again on step 2 + gary neville and the club nearly goes crashing with no survivors.

We at least have ways around our silly umlauts, even if johnny foreigners don't use them (ae, ue, oe, ss)

Gary Neville ruined them

Because Ñ is a letter in itself. The thing above the ''''''''n'''''''' is not a tilde, a dieresis, le circunflexe, an umlaut or any other addition, but consubstantial part of the letter just like the fucking dot is integral part of the 'i'.

equivalents of Ñ in other languages:
>nh: portuguese and occitan
>ny: scatalan
>ń: polish
>gn: french and italian
>ň: czech and slovak

pick your flavour

what about the Portuguese way (nh = ñ)? Probably 95% of Spanish speakers would understand 2bqhwy

ü, ö, ä and ß are also letters by themselves, you paella gobbling shitlord

Didn't even consider that. Good boy, Chile. We'll let you win tomorrow. :3

>Spaniard complaining about 'fair' play

lmao, fuck off

Never use that term again, you Krautfuck :)

Those are just snob ways to reflect a phonemic sound that exists with other letters. I.e 'ß' is just a way to indicate le long strong 's'.

Ñ is a distinct phonemic sound in itself, and so we give it the proper status of letter, whereas goys like the portus, catalans, italians and french have to use combinations of anglojewish-approved letters to indicate that sound (nh, ny, gn).

>let me tell you about your language

ny to trigger castillans

or else what, paki boy

where's you special snowflake letter for LL then?

hahahahahaha
castillan education lmao

btfo

yuvia = lluvia

>Hey guys we totally don't care about the u21 and confess confed cup
> continue making threads about it

>Ñ (lower case ñ, Phonetic Alphabet: /ˈeɲe/ "énye") is a letter of the modern Latin alphabet, formed by placing a tilde (called a virgulilla in Spanish) on top of an upper- or lowercase N.

>all clubs are well managed and financially sound

is this a bait? I can't tell anymore

that might be the case in Argentina, I don't know, but when I hear spaniards pronouncing LL, it's the same as LH in my language and that sound is definitely not a Y

It was a letter until the conspiracy between RAE and the sudacas happened.

ßeiße

>Catalunya

Cuck

>ßeiße
what did he mean by this

Hard times for you, Mehmet

>Letra del alfabeto castellano, vasco, gallego bretón y de otras lenguas
La ñ (en mayúscula Ñ, nombre eñe, plural eñes) es la decimoquinta letra y la duodécima consonante del alfabeto español. No pertenece al alfabeto latino básico. Representa un sonido consonante sonante, nasal y palatal.

Hund ßeiße

>Hund ßeiße
perro chaca

Based Sevilla

Hund kackt/Hund scheißt

>t. Pierre bin Croissan, le smelly supporteur de le bankrupt Bastia

>2nd best league in the world
>shit

>It's similar to what Juventus do in Serie A
Most of Juve's signings in the last 5-6 years are from abroad

Now in Saxonian, please

lel

>Competitive domestic football or competitive teams in Europe is the choice really
Spain has both doe
>inb4 la liga isn't competitive

Ur league needs more 'mericans

PulisGOD will become the Goalmarksmanking next seasons and then there will be the greatest American boom since WW2.

spain has 2 + 1 new comer which hasn't been a threat for more than a decade. basically the best players play for 2 spanish teams and atleti has been there the past 6 or so years, but it remains to be seen if they can stay up there for the enxt decade.
england has 6 teams that, for more than 10 years, have been competitive and therefore the best talent playing in england is split. Yes, having double the competition at home matters

One reason that doesn't get any attention are the stupid copyrights that forbid Bundes content to be used anywhere but their licensed partners.

The DFL underestimate how much accessibility means for the popularity of the league and it's players. When you can't even find decent highlight reels of top Bundes players on youtube casual fans will go watch Pogba's top 10 dabs instead.

Player popularity is causaly linked to player value, club reputation, club finances and league revenue. The two letter points are ironically is the reason why they have such strict copyrights, so they get a few exta mils from the TV deal.

TL;DR the DFL is just awful at marketing the league

>TL;DR
i think its fine how it is. an increase in marketing would only serve to make bayern and bvb slightly more rich

Bastia can die though, and in fact I'm happy they're doing exactly that

except the spanish teams outside the top 3 are better than their english/german/italian counterparts

>england has 6 teams that, for more than 10 years, have been competitive
lmao

Dude, I can't even... pls tell me you're no volksdeutscher with that low iq

>spanish teams outside the top 3 are better than their english/german counterparts
not true
also i meant competative within their league, spending money on players and actually having a chance of beating the best teams rather than juvewinslol or realandbarcawinlol

Wtf i love athletic club now

>debt is bad

its like you guys dont even know that you're supposed to use things like credit cards and loans to buy shit you want and then just pay it back later

Chelsea and fucking Lester walked the english league harder tha RM and Barca did in Spain
Spain always had a close thight title race in the last decade whereas th PL doesn't have a title race since United last title
Your double standars are amazing
>Atletico has competed for 6 years but it doesn't count unless they do it for a decade
meanwhile
>united hasn't competed in 4 years but they count as competitive because they used to be good
>arsenal hasn't competed in 12 years but they count as competitive
>spurs and liverpool competed once in this century but they count as competitive

Is this bait? I never can tell with americans.

those english teams spend a shit ton of money and buy players that otherwise would have played for 'the team'
juve literally buy the best italian players and best youngsters and then loan out the shitters to other teams. they have no competition during the season and can focus on europe. same for bayern. yes, la liga is different than bundesliga and italy but there is less competition at the top than in england

>those english teams spend a shit ton of money and buy players that otherwise would have played for 'the team'
Money =/= results

>la liga is different than bundesliga and italy but there is less competition at the top than in england
>La Liga always has a title race and the PL doesn't, therefore La Liga is less competitive at the top
If anything La Liga has more competition at the top and England more competition at the bottom but that's just speculation that can't be proved unless they bring back the Mitropa

>Money =/= results
you cannot get results unless you are able to buy good players. you cannot buy good players without money.
look, suppose lower table club has a player that breaks out and is all of a sudden world class. where does he go during the transfer window?
germany: bayern
spain: barca or madrid
italy: juve
england: ????

in europe england is shit, but that is due in part because their domestic league is so tough relative to the other leagues.

Germans are wonderful. They don't deserve the hate they get. Spaniards are mongrelized degenerates. Can't wait till their sham of a league goes bust.

>you cannot get results unless you are able to buy good players. you cannot buy good players without money.
What are the youth academy and good scouts?
Spanish and German small teams make up for the lack of money with those

You talk like teams can only buy from their own domestic league, Barca and Real mostly buy from abroad, same as Juve
If a lower table english club has a player that breaks out and is all of a sudden world class he goes to RM or Barca

Randomization of winners is a proper characteristic of shit leagues. But even leaving this aside;

>There is less competition at the top than in England

English league winners last 20 years: 5 (City, Utd, Lester, Chelsea, Arsenal)
Spanish league winners last 20 years: 5 (Barca, Madrid, Atleti, Valencia, Depor)

There, debunked and cucked with a simple, basic statistic.

We could then compare performance of English and Spanish clubs in international competitions uh? :-)

Also, if Madrid and Barca played in the English league there would have only been 2 winners of the English league in the last 20 years ;). So if anything, the spanish league is way more competitive in addition to hosting way more succesful clubs.

callate wey