What are your thoughts on the soundtrack?
What are your thoughts on the soundtrack?
Mason Jones
Xavier Ross
It's a good soundtrack. I like the Imperial Suite and "Your Father would be Proud"
Cooper Nelson
not as good as it could have been but not bad for the like 4 1/2 weeks or something Giacchino had to compose it.
Joshua Evans
Literally saw this an hour ago, I am a music student specializing in composition for media and had read threads on here where it was criticized - the main point being no recurring/memorable themes. I LOVE a lot of Giacinno's work and went into the film intending to listen to the soundtrack and it think it's a great job.
I thought the music was great, it really fit in with JW's style and it's impressive how Giaccino hid his own sound which is incredibly hard to do - imitating a sound as distinctive as JW's. I think the whole soundtrack is brilliant and fits the tone of the film but with new characters/ stories being introduced and the scenes (in my opinion) happening all over the place, it would have been hard to make recurring themes apart from an Erso theme, that could have developed a few times?
I'd definitely look at it more thoroughly but that's what I noticed on first viewing tonight. My personal criticism is that the music didn't seem very consistent and again memorable (i.e. most scenes having many bars of random/unconnected motifs), maybe he could have revisited the score if he had more time but considering he had like 4 weeks to do the score he nailed it.
Daniel Martinez
You can't have anyone other than John Williams do the soundtrack for a Star Wars movie. Even if it's a spin-off. Giacchino is good but he's not a good Star Wars composer.
Parker Gonzalez
I'm glad Sup Forums has some taste
Tired of hearing "IT@S NOT MEMORABLE!!!" without any actual discussion or thoughts on the tone, instrumentation etc.
I recommend Star Wars Oxygen with David Collins, their last release starts their analysis on this score including Dies Irae in Jyn's theme
Camden Gonzalez
Thanks user gunna check this out, might provide something helpful to reference for my dissertation (not on JW)
I actually don't think that JW is particularly great, like Hanz Zimmer. They've both become brands. Hanz just tends to chuck in some BWAAHH almost ironically now and all of JW's scores are the same! I was talking to my friend about the Harry Potter music sounding 'magical'. It doesn't - it only sounds magical because you KNOW it is Harry Potter. It's the same score as Home Alone or Jurassic Park. I'm glad Giaccino is getting the success he deserves but it is a shame that people James Horner or Harry Gregson-Williams don't get more credit/work.
Jack Torres
I agree with everything you said, Zimmer and his clones are fucking cancer
Horner was criminally underrated, but I'm glad Giacchino's been getting a lot of exposure lately
Christian Howard
Can we all agree that Steven Price is the next Williams?
Sebastian Bailey
Seconding the Zimmer / clones cancer sentiment. I work in the film music industry and these guys are so prominent despite all using fucking farm systems. No art to any of 'em.
Alexander Bell
"Your Father would be proud" perfectly captures the emotions of the ending. Absolutely great composition.
Daniel Jackson
Music is one of the best parts of rogue kino
Jose Hernandez
I know right I have recently made a playlist on spotify, throwing in loads of my favorite examples of film scoring for reference and inspiration. over 500 tracks and about a third a James Horner. I hadn't even realized because of how versatile his writing is. As you said - 'Criminally underrated'.
Jackson Phillips
I'm the music student user form earlier, care to share what you do in the film music industry? It's very interesting to me!
Eli Mitchell
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This one's great. As well as "Your father would be proud" and "Hope". Everything else is from okay'ish to good tier.
Eli Kelly
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The perfect blend of Williams and Giacchino
Michael Sanchez
fORGETABLEE
now off with you to the last page
David Morgan
Except John Williams did TFA's soundtrack and it was bad. He's too old. He's lost his touch.
Joshua Morales
I don't think it's about age, he's just incredibly overrated. He probably doesn't give a fuck at this point and can chuck out the same music film after film knowing that people will lap it up. The only reason people like it is because it is memorable - but the only reason it is memorable because he writes a minimal amount of content (few themes) and repeats them time after time until the film is over.
I'm glad Giaccino got this commission and I hope that it brings him the success it deserves because in comparison to JW it is better music. However the few weeks he had to create the score could get him blasted.
Nolan Turner
I would not call him overrated considering he's made some of the best scores in recent cinematic history. And this is coming from a musically inclined perspective, not a nostalgic or memorable one.
Alexander Edwards
I would say that his music is good, but I wouldn't put him higher than some of the other big composers. I do feel that he is overrated in the way people say he is the best ever and blah blah BUT I do think he is a great composer and is influential. I think a lot of the influence is from the scale of projects he's worked on and this has made people believe he's the best because films he's worked on are very acclaimed. As others have said, Horner, Newton-Howard etc are underrated. If you were to compare the style of writing I personally think he's no better than many others but of course taste is subjective. You can 'hear' John Williams straight away but some others are very versatile and don't always have their own 'sound' as such. But this is only my view based on what I have listened to and experience of composers' work
Lincoln Jones
post your OST rankings
I think Giacchino did great
IV > V > VI > I >>> III > SOTE >>>>>>> VII > II > R1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clone Wars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rebels
Hunter Ortiz
III = V > IV > VI >R1 > VII > II > I
I think they're all very good
Jason Howard
Title sounds like the Ace Rimmer theme
Thomas Thomas
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>Hope
Based Giacchino
Anthony Morgan
I hate it when remakes/sequels or whatever take the main themes and then tease them but then just changes them slightly just for the sake of changing them and it robs you of the iconic melody the theme originally had and you just get annoyed because you get cheated out of hearing the full melody.
Cameron Myers
James Horner is dead.
Jayden Cox
like here at 0:58, you're about to hear the imperial march but then, oh no, that was just a tribute :^), let me throw in an ear deafening trumpet that does its own thing instead of you getting to hear the iconic melody.
Nathaniel Sanchez
I kind of understand what you mean, but the main theme for "hope" (not the track from above, but the motif) ties into Luke's theme (the main fanfare) nicely. Again, I'm plugging Star Wars Oxygen, but they go into how Luke's theme consists of perfect intervals, whereas the Hope theme deviates. It's a thematic connection to the stakes of the movie and the fact that none of the team survive. It starts with the same >C >G , then goes minor, goes back up, only to go down again. In the case of The Master Switch, the Hope theme goes back down to Dies Irae
Ripping the opening notes of the Whills theme from Across the Stars is a bit annoying because there's no thematic connection. Hope in this movie doesn't die, it evolves (retroactively) into Luke's theme as he's the "new hope" and this movie paves the way for his story. Across the Stars has nothing to do with this movie
For reference, here's the Hope theme I'm referring to
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However, when Giacchino did reprise Williams' themes he chose great moments for it
Here's the Rebel Fanfare when the fleet arrives at Scarif (1:16):
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And the Force Theme when Jyn and Cassian leave Yavin for Jedha. Jyn's theme opens the track and it hands over to the Force Theme:
Samuel Martinez
was surprised at how similar it sounded to the john williams scores. the song that plays during the last scene was fantastic, loved how it turned into the imperial march, and then ended with the old force theme
Robert Jackson
1/2 to add
I get the feeling they wanted to hold back on The Imperial March at the end, because Vader's theme in IV is different. You hear it in Rogue One when the bacta tank is draining, it's this low melody:
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As the end of the movie ties up musically with IV with the reprisal of the Blockade Runner music, I get why they'd limit it. There was plenty of Imperial March playing in the Vader/Krennic scene anyway, and for a bonus the melody of the massacre is actually the Imperial March if you speed it up. Try it on youtube
Matthew Harris
Giacchino needs to stop trying to ape off Williams
his works are so much better when it's his won stuff
Thomas Reed
>tfw hope
Benjamin Clark
To be fair he emulates him pretty well
Look up his Medal of Honor soundtracks, he channels Williams really well
Ayden Campbell
well you've clearly done your homework, god's speed user