What is your honest to God opinion on immigration?

What is your honest to God opinion on immigration?

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I agree with our president on this: we need as many immigrants as possible. They are honest hard-working people.

bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-03-14/russia-s-alternative-universe-immigrants-welcome

>What is your honest to God opinion on immigration?
It should remain same as it was 10-15 years ago, meaning no zerg floods on the borders and that only people after background checks can get through.

>pic
Then go live in africa as a part of liberal exchange program.

Apathy.

It should be contained, unless you want a fifth column to rise.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column

so-called "refugees" come here to live as leeches and spit on the working population.
real "immigrants" that come here to work, like poles or romanians are welcome. leeches are not.

why are you (You) harvesting like this have you no shame

at least go to Sup Forums

>What is your honest to God opinion on immigration?
that they should go back to their own countries

Should all countries allow immigrants? Do people have the right to live/work wherever they want to?
Or is it better to stay where one was born/raised, in the case that some cultures are incompatible?

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>Allowed immigration
Nordic women
Germanic women
Italian women
Dutch women
Spanish women
Cypriots
>Banned immigration
Everything else

Balanced immigration. However, it doesn't stop the humanitarian/ economic problems that these people are fleeing from.

>However, it doesn't stop the humanitarian/ economic problems that these people are fleeing from.
It exacerbates them if there is a brain drain.

>Russia needs immigrants so that the money which could be directed to stabilizing the economy and raising salaries to attract Russian workers would go to oligarchs' pockets instead
Really perplexes my peanuts.
Also
>(((Bloomberg)))

>women
Its like you want to be even more in debt.

The only reason any non-west/Central African would go to Russia is to study.

>God
下げる。

individual people as well as entire peoples as a whole should be allowed to perish. preserving doomed populace only contributes to the ever creeping overpopulation.

if you want globalization
your iphone made by chinese workers
your cloth made by bangladeshian pajeets
your roof fixed for cheap

materials that would cost 3 times as much if you had to pay a normal price for it then theres gona be immigration

you cant have your cake and eat it too

Depends
Immigration to the US is part of our culture and why we have such a huge economy, if only people would recognize that is this a monoculture and integrate it wouldn't cause issues because we're already mixed beyond belief anyway
When people immigrate to ethnic states that when it causes problems.

Free movement of goods isn't the same as the free movement of people you utter retard.

Go right ahead, ultra welfare state.

Alien species destroying equilibrium.

>clothes are made for 50c
>but are sold for $50

>Immigration to the US is part of our culture and why we have such a huge economy

It's the other way around you dope. In the 19th century, factory owners would go to Europe to scout for workers. The strength of the american economy is due to its river system, natural resources (oil and now shale oil) and a giant moat around it that protects it from enemies.

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In favor of accepting immigrants from any country so long as the process is regulated. The unchecked flow of immigrants in to Germany following the Syrian migrant crisis caused a great deal of security and logistical issues that I'd prefer we avoid. It was a decision motivated by good intentions but the outcome was a best a mess and at worst a disaster.

That said I have no issue with immigrants from Middle Eastern countries or Mexico or elsewhere so long as they want to come to America and work with us to make it a better place. You do that and you're an American in my book. I'm also for leniency for undocumented immigrants who haven't been involved in any criminal activity (other than entering the country illegally) and who have been working or contributing in some way. If they're good people they deserve a shot at citizenship. Those involved in criminal activity and those not doing anything productive would be sent back though.

Immigration is complex. I think the right is too strict and the left is too soft.

>All of poorly paid workers move to countries where they are being paid better.
>Prices go up X times because of new workforce costs.

>Immigration to the US is part of our culture and why we have such a huge economy
I agree with this sentiment, and I wanted to hear why other countries don't push immigration as hard as us when it seems like it would be in their economic best interest.
But this has me thinking that I wasn't thinking critically enough. I suppose it is a lot more complex than just immigration

It should be demographically insignificant - racial and ethnic conflict are the result of racial and ethnic diversity plus proximity, this is basic arithmetic.

The immigration that should be allowed should be STEM-related and highly vetted and 90% of the time on a temporary basis, most importantly naturalization/gaining citizenship should be hard to impossible. Citizenship is just a process people go through these days, it's not a privilege or something anyone strives for.

What a fucking non-answer.

>I think the right is too strict

How? The center-right in all western countries support the status quo, look at the conservatives in the UK, they've presided over net inflows of 300k+ - 75% of which has been excluding the EU. Same with France under Sarkozy, Germany under Merkel etc. How are the CDU "strict" on immigration in any meaningful way?

If we didn't have immigration all of that would be useless.
Our large population gave us the manpower to successfully harness those resources.

>Our large population gave us the manpower to successfully harness those resources.

Large populations are useless if the population quality/human capital is low, moron.

Our left would be considered conservative in England/Europe

>What a fucking non-answer.

This kind of thinking is why our entire political climate is a fucked up as it is. Everything must be an absolute. You're either for us or you're against us. There is no nuance. Nobody is capable of any kind of critical analysis any more and people cannot even fathom the concept of compromising. I can only hope this cancerous mentality dies before we render our own species extinct.

A lot of people genuinely come here with good intentions and work hard, the negative minorities you see in the US are often third generation children.

Not in terms of immigration or social policy. The US is liberalism's patient zero. Everything bad in the world you pioneered:

>Liberal democracy as the only acceptable form of government (or we're going to bomb you).
>Interracial marriage as fashionable and hip.
>Fag marriage as normal.
>Philosemitism.
>White guilt (Hollywood).

etc etc.

I wish we got more South American refugees.
We need more Reggaeton and SA cuisine here.

Yes, everything must be an absolute. Not like I made my position clear that productive immigration (specialist nurses, engineers etc) on a temporary basis is acceptable in the same post you're replying to.

Fuck off libfag.

>A lot of people genuinely come here with good intentions and work hard

You're still getting it wrong. The fact they work hard and make a lot of money is not reason alone to induct them into the body politic. Plenty of Chinese make a lot of money in your country, but virtually all of them are still loyal to the PRC, which is why your counter-intel finds it so difficult to fight them domestically.

fuck white countries

Kek are Greeks even white?

Why are you bringing up whiteness you stupid liberal faggot? Can't defend your views?

Have you ever been here?
>Liberal democracy as the only acceptable form of government (or we're going to bomb you)
eh
>Interracial marriage as fashionable and hip.
This is still rare outside of the media, people don't miscegenate as much as you think they do
>Fag marriage as normal.
We didn't pioneer this, and a lot of the country dislikes this
>Philosemitism.
Considering that we saved their asses before and Christianity is considered closely related to it
>White guilt (Hollywood).
Ehhhh, I don't think this as true as you think it is, unless your race conscious there's not a lot of white guilt in hollywood but there's nothing with raceswaps in film.

>materials would cost 3 times as much
Nice fearmongering

>(Hollywood)
They still make some of the best cinema in the world, they're a business and if "kill whitey" is in they will chant "kill whitey"
not that Hollywood is as anti-white as you think.

>Have you ever been here?

Unfortunately.

>Ehhhh, I don't think this as true as you think it is, unless your race conscious there's not a lot of white guilt in hollywood but there's nothing with raceswaps in film.

Yeah, Detroit, Get Out, Selma, Twelve Years an Ape.... Hollywood has been pumping out the white guilt propaganda over the past 20 years. You even make films with Indian men and White women now lol (Big Sick) so fucking disgusting.

>Interracial marriage as fashionable and hip.
>Fag marriage as normal.
Why are Sup Forumstards always so obsessed with these two?

I agree, but they also push a message, and as I mentioned in it is getting more pronounced.

>Fag marriage as normal.
Because this flies in the face of our country's Judeo-Christian values

>purposefully try to change the definition of marriage from what it's always been to something else because of sympathetic gay characters on your TV shows
>we are the ones obsessed with it

Interracial marriages are fucked up, dysfunctional and produce fucked up, dysfunctional children. This is a statistical fact.

White countries should take refugees, not we.
I enjoy watching Europe burning:D:D

No problem with immigrating to work and be a functioning member of society. Fuck rapefugees and their bullshit

I'm against immigration. We're full. Also I don't like immigrants who have come in recent years because we were full already.

>Interracial marriages are fucked up, dysfunctional and produce fucked up, dysfunctional children. This is a statistical fact.
lol no. maybe for some hapa that was born from a SEA visa marriage but most turn out fine.

>I enjoy watching Europe burning:D:D

Why? What did Spain ever do to you Takeshi?

Immigration in large numbers results in no integration. Different cultures are objectively better than others and if immigrants won't adapt then they shouldn't go to the country they want to. Back in the day they made people change their names to be more anglo when people immigrated to america. Now we have Muslims going into western countries and acting like muslims. It doesn't work. Multiculturalism never worked.
>libcucks think multiculturalism means race
Black kids that grow up in white neighborhoods usually end up better than blacks that grow up with shitty black culture in the hood.
Western European culture is objectively the best

He's a polish proxy.

>everything bad in the world you pioneered:
>british flag
>Greek God (racially pure J1/J2)
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>lol no. maybe for some hapa that was born from a SEA visa marriage but most turn out fine.

>Over 90% of children born to black dads and white moms are born out of wedlock
>Over 90% of such children report a bad relationship with their father

papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2625893

>White women in relationships with black men 9 times more likely to be murdered

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26092648

Want me to go on, abonigger?

>Black kids that grow up in white neighborhoods usually end up better than blacks that grow up with shitty black culture in the hood.

Stop trying to downplay race just to suck up to libcucks. Race is important.

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This isn't true, I am of mexican descent but because of how much americans mix I have white skin and I never truly became part of any Mexican communities, shit fucked up me for the longest time until I just started calling myself an Iberian and kicking with whitey.

because I can realiazed how blessed and lucky I am to have been born in Japan. plus their stupidity is worth being laughed at

I almost took offense to this, but then remembered.

How would you define race?

You can blame the shitty indigenismo movement for that. Mexicans weren't always retarded chicano aztec LARPers.

Honestly? I just want to be left alone. Upper classes throughout the western world exploited africans and asians etc and the average person barely benefited. Now anyone with white skin cops the blame for what a few rich pricks got the goodies from and we all have 'accept migrants evil white man' shoved down our throats. I blame liberals AND capitalists for this

>plus their stupidity is worth being laughed at

Majority of Europeans oppose mass immigration, no matter what your meme images tell you.

And this doesn't follow. Why laugh at people dying because you feel lucky to be born in Japan?

Phylogenetic concordance.

An economic necessity for western countries and not necessarily a bad thing if the numbers are controlled and they assimilate.

>most interracial pairings in movies is WMAF
>some butthurt Turk rapebabby gets roid rage if it's with some shitskin or another
off yourself senpai

I know nothing about the relationship of america with chis t b h

>An economic necessity for western countries

Based on what economic logic? The majority of inflows to the United Kingdom are not skilled workers, they're family reunification visas who eventually get citizenship, student visas for useless subjects etc.

>most interracial pairings in movies is WMAF

They're not though, you paranoid chink. Go worship your Indian Buddha or something.

t. eu expert
shut your mouth angloshit

But the native species is killing itself off for some reason.

The libcuckery on Sup Forums is astonishing.

But then again what can you expect from people who think "we are the world" memesphere images about how le switzerland is le neutral are funny.

I think it is a fair consequence of colonialism and post-colonialism. Like, Westerners are getting what their deserve.

>Based on what economic logic?
when birth rates are low you need people to come in from somewhere to keep economies ticking

>The majority of inflows to the United Kingdom are not skilled workers, they're family reunification visas who eventually get citizenship, student visas for useless subjects
That's England's problem, not a problem with migration as a whole. We don't have that problem in Australia and the closest we've had to a """migrant crisis""" was people getting annoyed that wogs and lebs weren't assimilating

>They're not though, you paranoid chink.
>implying

>Go worship your Indian Buddha or something.
Buddha was Asian. And why don't you go do suck the dick of that sandnigger prophet of yours?

We need immigration reform to allow Mexicans an easy way to become American, while at the same time keeping the criminals out.
Mexicans are almost universally bros, and it's the cartels (that they also hate) that give them a bad reputation.
Once we establish better diplomatic relations (immigration/border is a big factor in this) with Mexico it should even be easier to erase the drug problems.

Muslim "Refugees" from Islamic countries are scum though, they can get fucked. Fuck Islam so much.

It's cancer what has it added to my country that my country didn't have before oh what more takeaway variety I don't give a fuck like no one can tell me how immigration has had a benefit for my country.

>when birth rates are low you need people to come in from somewhere to keep economies ticking

What do you mean by "keep economies ticking"? Be specific: Are you talking about stimulating consumption or productivity?

>We don't have that problem in Australia

Yeah, you just have a giant Chinese fifth column that have probably infiltrated most organs of state by now. Different strain of the same disease.

Ahahahaha
I'd heard the bitch was fat, but that's whaleteir

>implying

I wasn't implying anything, I was quite explicit.

>Buddha was Asian.

Siddharta Gautama was from the Indian subcontinent you /r/aznidentity LARPer. Are you seriously trying to retcon him as a chink? Fucking lol.

>What do you mean by "keep economies ticking"? Be specific: Are you talking about stimulating consumption or productivity?
For it to grow overall. This isn't a radical concept.
For example, 1.5% of Australia's 3.2% annual growth rate in the 90s was attributed to population growth, and with birth rates below the replacement rate in every state but Tasmania the reason why the population grew was obviously migration.
If migration slowed, then the working population drops and the economy contracts. That's the problem Japan is about to face. They're projected to have economic growth reduce by 1% every single year because of their decaying population and restrictive migration policies.
>Yeah, you just have a giant Chinese fifth column that have probably infiltrated most organs of state by now. Different strain of the same disease.
The property problem stems from overseas investors based in China and demand for inner city property in Sydney and Melbourne, not migrants.

>I wasn't implying anything, I was quite explicit.
TV shows have it more in spades than movies ever will.

>Siddharta Gautama was from the Indian subcontinent you /r/aznidentity LARPer. Are you seriously trying to retcon him as a chink? Fucking lol.
>/r/
>browsing reddit

Kek. And no, Buddha was from Nepal and I'm not retconning anything.

You'd also know nobody prays TO Buddha like sandnigger worshipers do to Jesus.

So what if growth is flat? When you adjust GDP by population it's pretty flat for Aus anyway, with inequality widening. Basically you think western nations should import more third worlders so the richest can get richer, while the lower and middle classes can put up with having to actually live near them.

>So what if growth is flat?
A country can survive with a stagnate economy, but if one can grow then there's nothing wrong with that. Problems arise when it can start causing downturn, like what may start happening in Japan.
>When you adjust GDP by population
that's literally what the growth figures come from
>with inequality widening
nope
>Basically you think western nations should import more third worlders so the richest can get richer, while the lower and middle classes can put up with having to actually live near them.
nope
you forgot your le funny name by the way champ

Analbanian Subhuman.

>TV shows have it more in spades than movies ever will.
To be fair there's only like 7 TV shows worth watching

Also
>implying I'm shilling for immigration
No I'd prefer it if they did close the borders completely.

Nepal is part of the Indian subcontinent
There's also been four buddhas or something I'm pretty sure

>I'd prefer it if they did close the borders completely.

WHITEY WATCH OUT

Good if I immigrate to Finland, but very bad if others come to my country

mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-12/population-growth-masking-australian-economic-weakness/8700288

mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-26/rba-says-inequality-getting-worse/8746594

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It's literally in all the popular T.V shows and yet you never see stormshits whine about that. But it's the rare BMWF movie that sends all those keyboard warriors flooding the internet.

Yeah it's part of it but its geography is weird. It doesn't share any similarities with India barring Buddhism and most Nepalis don't even like Indians.
>There's also been four buddhas or something I'm pretty sure
The first one.

I do. I'm from Sydney so I know better than anybody here at how shit Arabs can be.

that's a recent phenomenon and it's driven by a combination of factors beyond migration alone
Australia has drawn on large numbers of migrants for 60 odd years now, even before the weakening and then outright removal of the White Australia Policy and is arguably one of the cornerstones of Australia's success

>It doesn't share any similarities with India
It's part of the Indian sphere of influence now and that's beginning to have an effect on their culture. The recent explosion of cricket there is a good example of the influence of India on Nepal.
>most Nepalis don't even like Indians
No one in the subcontinent likes anyone. "India" as a country was invented by the English. It's filled with different ethnic groups that speak different languages and who all have historical rivalries with each other.

>the rare BMWF
A LOT of black movies have this
and I don't know about most but WMAF makes me kind of uncomfortable as well, don't know why Sup Forums has such a fetish for them other than betas not being choosers.

>For it to grow overall. This isn't a radical concept.

Ok, so you're prioritizing GDP growth then.

In that case why not just give legal status to anyone who turns up on your shores? That would boost GDP growth exponentially higher because consumption would increase massively.

>That's the problem Japan is about to face.

Japan has the most competitive manufacturing sector on earth. Germany wishes it could be even halfway as productive as Japan.

>They're projected to have economic growth reduce by 1% every single year because of their decaying population and restrictive migration policies.

They actually post modest growth.

>The property problem stems from overseas investors based in China and demand for inner city property in Sydney and Melbourne, not migrants.

lol no, it's all Chinese. They're not loyal, and why should they be? Honestly, think about that question.

>TV shows have it more in spades than movies ever will.

So now you're changing the goalposts. What TV shows are you talking about here specifically?

>Kek. And no, Buddha was from Nepal and I'm not retconning anything.

Nepal is closer to India than it was China, Buddha attained his enlightenment in India.

>You'd also know nobody prays TO Buddha like sandnigger worshipers do to Jesus.
>Build giant statues
>Bow down before them
>Prostrate yourself before them
>Call him "Lord Buddha"
>Attribute supernatural powers from beyond the grave to him (invoke him to solve real-world problems)
>not worshipping

Chinese religion is all just empty rites anyway. So I'm not sure why I'm discussing this.

>It's literally in all the popular T.V shows

Then list them you literal redditor.

>It doesn't share any similarities with India barring Buddhism

You are thick as shit. Siddharta literally invokes Krishna's name at points.

No one cares about Chinese Buddhism anyway, it's shit-tier religion.

We're full. We need to start kicking people out or turn some shithole state into a containment zone.