>The Hill reports that President-elect Donald Trump intends to eliminate the National Endowment For The Arts and the National Endowment For The Humanities, and privatize the Corporation For Public Broadcasting, the government entity that partially funds both NPR and PBS.
>Overall, the blueprint being used by Trump’s team would reduce federal spending by $10.5 trillion over 10 years.
I remember this thread from earlier today. This is a good thing. Most people don't watch PBS, so people should not be forced to pay for it. If you enjoy PBS, donate to your local station. Just don't make me donate, because I don't care about British dramas (pic related) or government funded news programs.
Luis Garcia
oh man they're gonna cry bloody murder about this. I don't care because i'm not 90 years old
Nathan Sanders
Trump is fucking based.
Dominic Ross
I'm just hoping his impeachment comes before 90% of the retarded shit he claims he's gonna do
Daniel Allen
>Donald Trump intends to eliminate the National Endowment For The Arts
Apologize
John Long
Hopefully this clown will have a heart attack before he gets to do anything as president.
Gabriel Brown
>reduce federal spending by $10.5 trillion over 10 years. Holy fuck. Based Trump. Remove govt propaganda and save trillions.
Alexander Morales
Pence 2018
Zachary Nguyen
ken burns is gonna be mad as fuck. he's hugely liberal.
Kevin Bell
>Most people don't watch PBS
They're missing out.
>so people should not be forced to pay for it.
The is is the problem with conservative thinking. "I don't need it personally, therefore there's no benefit to it." It's so selfish it's practically solipsistic. The government provides funding to PBS, NPR, and a host of other programs and organizations, because their existence is seen as a net public good, whether particular individuals see them that way or not.
>If you enjoy PBS, donate to your local station.
While the majority of PBS funding comes from local donors and charitable funds, without federal funding, those stations may not be able to close their budgets, which could impact their ability to continue operating.
> Just don't make me donate,
There's no real way to know whether you do or don't, because like a drop of oil in a pipeline, there's really no way to track a particular tax payment to its recipient budget once it's been taken in. Just tell yourself that everything that gets withheld from your paycheck goes to buy bombs to drop on brown people, I'm sure that would make you happy.
Daniel Parker
I just hope he's going to say it was all for the lulz tomorrow. The people he appointed to his cabinet couldn't possibly be worse choices and this all honestly seems like an epic joke or I'm dreaming
he's going to sell off everything to the banks. the madman
Henry Reed
>>reduce federal spending by $10.5 trillion over 10 years. the only way that happens is by gutting social security, medicare and the military.
Jace Morris
I'm sorry I doubted you, Trump. You really are making America great again.
Hudson Bailey
>The is is the problem with conservative thinking. "I don't need it personally, therefore there's no benefit to it." It's so selfish it's practically solipsistic. The government provides funding to PBS, NPR, and a host of other programs and organizations, because their existence is seen as a net public good, whether particular individuals see them that way or not.
Okay, pay for my Netflix. Thx.
Caleb Howard
What's selfish is forcing people to pay for stuff they don't want because you want it.
Xavier Anderson
This is the problem with liberal thinking. "I want something personally, therefore everyone should fund it at gunpoint."
Asher Evans
I'm sorry I doubted you President Trump.
Benjamin Baker
You don't understand any of what you just quoted, do you?
Nicholas Ortiz
Good. PBS are partisan hacks and the government shouldn't be funding your menstrual blood art exhibits.
Cooper Russell
>While the majority of PBS funding comes from local donors and charitable funds, without federal funding, those stations may not be able to close their budgets, which could impact their ability to continue operating. just make people who want to watch it donate more then. oh wait thats called privatizing it. problem solved.
Robert Gonzalez
They need to gut NPR's funding
Aaron Collins
the gov doesn't really need to fund educational television anymore, it's not 1960. I know I grew up with PBS too so you don't want to see it go or change, but it's not that important really
Tyler Carter
It's 2017. Television is becoming obsolete.
Matthew Thomas
Fucking god, I'd wish they did that here.
Government TV here is basically massively inflated welfare for middle class university grads with no applicable workplace skills who just pump out idiotic garbage no one wants to watch. On air Tumblr for an audience of their friends and family. Such a massive waste of money.
Brody Hall
>the hill >trusting a source with "hill" in it
Matthew Bell
If nova gets canceled I'm going to be quite sad.
Brayden Ramirez
Also when the government took over film production we went from films like Mad Max and Picnic At Hanging Rock to shit about transgender autisitic aboriginal muslim migrants that literally no one, even the crews working on them, want to watch.
Owen Taylor
>government cuts arts spending >the American boxoffice has been surpassed by China's meaning Hollywood will cater to Chinese taste
Are gonna just turn into a war machine that boast about how great we USED to be like Russia, or do we just become self depreciating prudes like England?
Noah Clark
Blatant troll
>massive waste of money Pathetic bait
Carson Cook
Has anyone here actually watched PBS of late? The majority of the time it's an opera playing or some pseudo-infomercial with Suze Oreman -- or whatever that chick's name is who talks about managing money -- or brain diets n shieett.
It's good for the very rare Ken Burns documentaries, but it's not like losing it would be a major blow.
Josiah Carter
We're laughing at you.
PS: A fucking leaf
Jayden Roberts
Everything he wrote is true, marxist scum
Sebastian James
I haven't watched PBS in forever, but NPR has become an absolute cesspool of SJW advocacy in the past couple years or so. Literally every other time I've turned the radio on, they've been talking about racism/sexism/xeonphobia/homophobia or some identity politics victim is 'telling their story'.
I swear to fucking Christ, after the the mass molestation attacks in Cologne last New Year's Eve, they chose to cover it by talking to a woman who claimed she was saved from the attacks by a Muslim immigrant.
Xavier Perry
>If you don't pay for it, it will close
So...what?
Why would I care whether PBS shuts or not. It's a luxury service. It serves zero purpose for the maintenance and running of a nation.
Why should the government fund your hobbies?
Justin Wright
The Hill is about as trustworthy as Buzzfeed. Or RT. Or the hobo asking me for money because he has 7 keeds.
Adam Rivera
go back to facefucking your dog, leaf
Samuel Gutierrez
Killing the only good station on tv, can't wait for PBS Pawn Stars.
Sure regretting my vote now.
Elijah Brooks
>NPR Good fucking riddance
>PBS Who the fuck watches TV in 2017?
Jaxson Wood
How will society exist without This Old House?
Lucas Cooper
>people should not be forced to pay for it
Cutting funding to stuff isn't going to reduce your taxes. It'll just put more money into the shit they're already spending 90% of tax money on. Like spying on citizens and the military.
Levi Williams
>And yet the federal government appropriated about $445 million in fiscal year 2012 to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which supports both PBS and NPR.
That's insane. Let Bill Gates or some other bleeding heart billionaire pay for it instead if it's so important.
Dylan Jones
Yeah I pick up the upstate New York signal in Canada, and the quality of programming is down noticeably over the last decade or so.
Cooper Edwards
SAY
>THANK YOU MR. TRUMP
Ryan Perez
providing free educational programming to poor children helps them grow up to not be murderous drug dealers, is the line of thinking
I admit it doesn't seem to work
Noah Bell
I like how national security being bad is an axiom to you.
Angel Martin
KILL THE STATE RUN GLOBALIST PROPAGANDA
Zachary Brown
Where do you think that "saved" tax money will go?
Lucas Mitchell
>The is is the problem with conservative thinking. "I don't need it personally, therefore there's no benefit to it." That's a problem for things that actually matter, like medical care and paying for food.
But PBS is not necessary for life. And anybody not rich enough to pay for PBS probably isn't watching it anyway
Cooper White
hope u realize impeachment doesnt mean he's fired
he doesnt have to resign if he's impeached lol
Andrew Smith
Sounds like they should be funding schools instead
Joshua Morales
Good, fuck NPR. I live in Minnesota and they're a fucking blight.
Jordan Wilson
>leftists suddenly act like they watch PBS
Carter Perez
good riddance
Alexander Wood
I still don't know why npr and pbs get any federal money. I really hope he does it. I listen to NPR basically everyday but I see no reason why even one cent of my tax dollars should go to fund them
Kevin Edwards
god damn, cut it. I thought it was like 30 million. where the fuck does all that money go?
Eli Bell
BASED.
Wyatt Williams
>$445 million
HOLY SHIT DO YOU REALIZE THAT BY CUTTING OUT 500 MILLION THE DEBT WILL DISAPPEAR AND WE'LL ALL GET TO STOP PAYING TAXES? I MEAN THE BUDGET IS TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS BUT REMOVING 500 MILLION IS REALLY GONNA HELP GUYS
>itt people who think government spending works like their bank account
Sebastian Green
Oh, no, not PBS. I was totally still watching television.
Jack Hughes
>The Hill reports hmmm
Landon Nelson
best post
Levi Perry
the original Mad Max was paid for by the Austrailian Government tho
Jace Gutierrez
Security and liberty, dog.
Samuel Collins
>literally inventing shit people didn't say so you can then "refute" it
This is why religious upbringings are abusive. If anything he implied specific conditions under which "national security" can be bad.
Owen Thomas
Literally not a single part of my post was b8.
When you are unable to provide basic infrastructure to service our largest city because of budget black holes, but spend over 3 billion a year on arts that have no audience and keep a minute fraction of the population employed at exhorbitant costs you have a problem with your priorities.
The audacity of middle class failures claiming the government owes them large salaries to produce products no one needs or wants, while whining about rednecks demanding the government utilize tariffs is amazing.
lol. what part of the mountains do you live grandpa?
Andrew Miller
NPR is a net loss to society. I'd gladly pay to have it taken off the air.
Ryan Cox
>remove federal spending >put tax money in their own pockets >BASED TRUMP
Evan Edwards
Both my parents are atheists and I'm not american but okay.
Andrew Wilson
Republican idea of funding schools is cutting a check to partly cover sending your child to a private school and avoid the shitty public schools they cut funding to. Works great for rich people.
>PBS frontline had a disgusting hit piece on Trump >lose all federal funding
hahahahahahahahahah
Camden Bennett
you need to calm down
Grayson Wood
Yeah, this figure seems off. The Endowment for the Arts is currently at $146 billion (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Endowment_for_the_Arts), and they are only proposing to reduce it significantly, not scrap the whole thing. How does this save $10 trillion over 10 years?
>What kind of accounting bullshit is Trump pulling?
Justin Green
muh freedumbs don't matter, lard.
Robert Perez
>put tax money in their own pockets you mean paying down debts?
Jordan Hughes
I was just trying to explain how they try to justify it and I also said it didn't work. No need to be upset
Jace Mitchell
American schools aren't underfunded. That's an outright myth to explain away why blacks consistently perform like shit in them.
Asher Hill
It's called school. Children don't watch fucking PBS, certainly not the majority that grow up to be murderous drug dealers.
You'd be better off putting those millions of dollars into work training, law enforcement, social services, and public education than pissing it down a drain on a podcasts by upper class New Yorkers talking about a twitter feud or re-runs of the Disney corporations puppet shows.
What a deluded line of thinking you have.
Samuel Richardson
This truly is the best timeline
Juan Ward
Sorry, I mean the endowment is only at $146 million
Aaron Wright
It's so fun to see someone completely talk out of their ass and do their best to conceal it, all because they've signed on with a particular group or ideology and must do their best to defend it even if it means arguing for something they have zero vested interest in. Great use of words, it's a shame they smell like shit
Henry Martin
>I still don't know why npr and pbs get any federal money.
Because in a capitalistic society, it becomes the government's responsibility to maintain anything with value that can't be defined in monetary terms and thus can't be maintained on a "for profit" basis (like education).
The reason the soviet union collapsed is because they kept sacrificing quality of life for the nation. Now trump is talking about sacrificing quality of life for the economy.
Lincoln Green
npr hosts make well into six figures. they make more than people who beat them in ratings and with bigger staffs. they are literally the one percent their listeners despise. and it's subsidized by the state.
Julian Martin
Just imagine all the shit chugging adolescents who cant afford cable or sattellite posting in this thread about how useless PBS is.
Kids who are between the point of recalling the wholesome children's programming PBS provided to their drooling infant selves, and actually comprehending what a boon a network that focuses on fact-based thinking is.
Go walk around in the dark and kill yourselves.
Brayden Perez
they're overfunded just ineffective
Jordan Price
>shit about transgender autisitic aboriginal muslim migrants
I would actually watch that.
Ethan Torres
>a system that is controlled by private bankers to keep a country in continuous debt >paying down debts
Ryder Lopez
>We should give rich people money so they don't have to get real jobs since we're already blowing money anyway.
Why not just take that 500 million and give each American a million bucks while we're at it?
Ethan Scott
NPR does literally nothing for my quality of life.
Jaxon Roberts
You should come to Kansas.
>Cut all income taxes >Can't cover budget >Cut school spending until the citizens have to sue you >Pay for it by taxing consumption, mostly affecting people who aren't rich
Now instead of my income being taxed I'm taxed more on every dollar I have to spend to live.
Lincoln Ortiz
>It's called school
Education is always the next thing to "privatize" after the arts.
Cameron Perry
muh nostalgia. stahp dude.
Nicholas Miller
The private market will step up and fill the gap if PBS is anything of worth
The reason why you are an angry little faggot is because you know PBS is garbage and cannot live without tax payer money
Liam Hill
He doesn't have to but he could be convicted and voted out.
Honestly it is not too far fetched because Pence is way more in line with the GOP orthodoxy.
Blake Wood
In the end PBS will become anything but educational and cultural. What's the point for having another private TV channel?
Nathaniel King
>"I don't need it personally, therefore there's no benefit to it." wrong
I don't use it personally, so I don't want to be forced at gunpoint to spend money on it
Chase White
>implying Meryl Streep gets a single dollar from NEA
NEA grants are for painters and sculptors, not Hollywood actors, you dumb shit.
Colton Turner
NPR is the last bastion of real journalism in existence. The main reason 99.9% of anything of value is ever on the AP wire.