Brit/pol/ - Karen in the morning Edition

Ayden Bell
Ayden Bell

THREAD THEME:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp9WoX_8sbs

NIGEL'S FULL RESIGNATION SPEECH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-QwY0mZzuA

When we founded Ukip, Brexit was a lost cause. Nigel Farage changed all that
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/04/when-we-founded-ukip-brexit-was-a-lost-cause-nigel-farage-change/

LEADSOM IS POLLING AHEAD OF MAY
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/750008876850900994

FASCIST MAY FORCES TELEGRAPH TO PULL ARTICLE TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT HER RECORD
http://order-order.com/2016/07/02/telegraph-pulled-article-critical-theresa-may-campaign-pressure/

ANDREA LEADSOM: "FREE MOVEMENT WILL END", VOWS TO TRIGGER ARTICLE 50 "AS SOON AS SHE BECOMES PRIME MINISTER"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36570120
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/03/tory-leadership-andrea-leadsom-says-she-can-be-the-new-margaret/

THERESA MAY: TRADE WITH EUROPE "MUST BE A PRIORITY", WILL NOT INVOKE ARTICLE 50 BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-06-30/theresa-may-launches-tory-leadership-bid/

LEAVE.EU BACKS LEADSOM FOR TORY LEADER
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/arron-banks-and-nigel-farage-s-leave-campaign-back-andrea-leadsom-for-tory-leader/story-29466185-detail/story.html

TORY LEADERSHIP ELECTION: SENIOR MPS PLANNING ON FORCING REMAINER CRABB INTO SECOND PLACE AND THEN CONVINCING HIM TO LET REMAINER THERESA MAY RUN UNOPPOSED
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/senior-tories-plotting-bring-quick-end-leadership-contest/

KEKWELL "WILL NOT STAND FOR LEADERSHIP AFTER NIGEL FARAGE"
https://twitter.com/daily_politics/status/749942344498151424

SCARED ANGELA EAGLE: "C-CORBYN PLEASE QUIT"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36693835

CHILCOT: "BLAIR WON'T BE PUT ON TRIAL FOR WAR CRIMES BUT SOLDIERS MIGHT BE"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/02/outrage-as-war-crimes-prosecutors-say-tony-blair-will-not-be-inv/

CHRIS EVANS ABANDONS TOP GEAR
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36707266

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp9WoX_8sbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-QwY0mZzuA
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/04/when-we-founded-ukip-brexit-was-a-lost-cause-nigel-farage-change/
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/750008876850900994
http://order-order.com/2016/07/02/telegraph-pulled-article-critical-theresa-may-campaign-pressure/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36570120
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/03/tory-leadership-andrea-leadsom-says-she-can-be-the-new-margaret/
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-06-30/theresa-may-launches-tory-leadership-bid/
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/arron-banks-and-nigel-farage-s-leave-campaign-back-andrea-leadsom-for-tory-leader/story-29466185-detail/story.html
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/senior-tories-plotting-bring-quick-end-leadership-contest/
https://twitter.com/daily_politics/status/749942344498151424
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36693835
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/02/outrage-as-war-crimes-prosecutors-say-tony-blair-will-not-be-inv/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36707266
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYpTvaKdC4s
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/686146/Strain-family-life-death-threats-Nigel-Farage-Ukip-leader-resignation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mishcon_de_Reya
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/chris-evans-being-investigated-over-8346066
https://publiclawforeveryone.com/2016/06/30/brexit-on-why-as-a-matter-of-law-triggering-article-50-does-not-require-parliament-to-legislate/
http://www.strawpoll.me/10655530
http://www.andrealeadsom.com/working-for-you/andrea's-blog
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-36710783
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/05/nicky-campbell-interracial-adoption-creates-extra-layer-of-ident/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q3Q5hHeb6k
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/749255548344885248
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8304495/WikiLeaks-cables-Gordon-Brown-forced-to-scrap-plan-for-snap-election.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjHMYNM46Fw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaTxBPmikRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3RvsBnxTEY
https://www.kikebook.com/JeremyCorbynMP/videos/10154352135343872/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpPtwD5AV9o
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/685800/SAS-hero-ISIS-Gurkha-knife-Islamic-State-terror-Iraq
https://twitter.com/THAT_Jane/status/750081478868996096
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odal_%28rune%29
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ocP1ilHVWlAJ:speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.2446/daily-mail-blocks-sweden-for-legal-reasons.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/686048/EU-referendum-Brussels-Britain-pay-12billion-budget-Brexit-vote
http://www.lbc.co.uk/katie-hopkins-rages-at-safety-pin-campaign--133251
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/World/2016/Jul-05/360640-britain-will-remain-in-the-eu-austrian-minister.ashx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Inquiry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adl7O6DWQSs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_substitution
Levi Roberts
Levi Roberts

It's over lads. Britain is dead. The once beautiful and lucid dream has morphed into a nightmare and a once roaring fire has been wavered down into meagre flicker. The British population is now full of self hating lefty's who want to sell out our country to foreign powers. It is guaranteed that Scottish Independence will happen now, and our sacred isle will once again be divided.

I'm sorry lads, I love you all.

Chase Rogers
Chase Rogers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYpTvaKdC4s

Aiden Morales
Aiden Morales

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/686146/Strain-family-life-death-threats-Nigel-Farage-Ukip-leader-resignation

'Death threats have really got to Nigel', Farage insiders reveal after shock resignation

Jonathan Ward
Jonathan Ward

if scuckland wants to leave, we'll be better off and won't be spending more per head on them than ourselves, whilst they pay less per head in taxes than do we

they also have the largest deficit in the entire EU, too large even to meet the rules for joining the EU

/pol/thread/79776554#p79794424
aww, you concerned?

just answer the question positively and you will cure me

corporations only exist on paper, like fictional characters, they are even listed on wikipedia nad elsewhere as "LEGAL FICTIONS"

you do know what a fiction is?

Blake Martinez
Blake Martinez

This is an odd request, but I distinctly remember a few years ago seeing a paparazzi photo of Nige in the back of a car with his head in hand(s?) crying or on the verge of tears.

It was during one of the last election campaigns and it was because of his chronic back pain and stress.

Does anyone have it or can link to an article with it? I've tried finding it on Google with all sorts of attempted hits without any luck at all. I know it's an odd thing to ask for, but at this point I want to prove to myself I haven't just made it up.

Asher Stewart
Asher Stewart

Article 50 is trying to be blocked by a firm of lawyers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mishcon_de_Reya

Henry Gomez
Henry Gomez

Scotland relies on gibs. If they leave you, they lose the welfare. Spain has already stated that they won't let them join the EU. Scotland won't do shit.

Isaac Evans
Isaac Evans

8th for fuck May

Austin Brown
Austin Brown

Karen a shit

Jeremiah Collins
Jeremiah Collins

Funny this comes out in the papers once he steps down presenting
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/chris-evans-being-investigated-over-8346066

Ian Fisher
Ian Fisher

Futile desperation.

https://publiclawforeveryone.com/2016/06/30/brexit-on-why-as-a-matter-of-law-triggering-article-50-does-not-require-parliament-to-legislate/

Samuel Torres
Samuel Torres

Help me out brit/pol/, I need the image macro of the pink haired feminist saying "my theories will always be right, wrong side of history"etc

Christopher Davis
Christopher Davis

Conservative party leader preference, May v Leadsom:
T. May: 63%
A. Leadsom: 31%
(via YouGov, Con members / 01 - 04 Jul)

I know, polls are retarded, and we shouldn't listen after BREXIT, but could we be fucked here lads? It's a pretty huge lead.

Michael Martinez
Michael Martinez

Mummy literally only launched her campaign yesterday. They'll all come round eventually just like we did.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10655530

Justin Wood
Justin Wood

It was always going to be a hard sell for Leadsom to win, May has always been third in line after Osbourne, and a rabid Remainer like him can't take over

I'll always blame Gove for depriving the world of the finest man who could have been PM

Samuel Wilson
Samuel Wilson

that featured poll

Oh boy

Christian Wilson
Christian Wilson

they're going to sue the government? good luck with that

Thomas Campbell
Thomas Campbell

Not everyone in Scotland wants it...it's the SNP who keep on getting voted in who force this independence rubbish down peoples throats.

They even rigged the EU vote there to make it so those who wanted independence to vote to stay IN the EU...even though that makes no sense at all. You can't be independent under the EU.

What Scotland needs is a new party to oppose the SNP clowns, or the sheep to stop crying about Maggie Thatcher and go back to an existing party for the sole purpose of getting rid of Sturgeon, Salmond and the likes.

Oliver Allen
Oliver Allen

Lads, how many fingers afe you supposed to be able to fit in your foreskin? I only ask because I used to have phimosis and stretched it because I disn't want a Jew circumcision, but I can still only fit 6 fingers in.

Christian Davis
Christian Davis

Anti-trump people on twitter are hilariously incensed by anything you say that isn't exaggerated defamation of the man. I don't even support Trump really, though I support Hillary less and understand why people do. I make one comment about them being a bit overzealous and this guy's been sending me shit all night. He's been calling me an anti-semite and racist because I thought this whole furor over the star of David thing was overblowing a not very significant oversight. I hate this sort of politics.

The rabid leftist meme is a reality. I see the light.

Anthony Nelson
Anthony Nelson

Who /NEET and been up all night/ here?

I stretched mine too lad. The GP said I might need a circumcision, but I can retract it now, feels good. Still have an appointment at the urologist coming up and I'm still a virgin so it's not like it matters but oh well.

Jose Brown
Jose Brown

I can't imagine the UK without Scotland. Not for economic or democratic reasons or anything like that, I just think that a schism between the two closest national brothers over petty leftist political complaints would be too much for me. Scotland is British, and Britain is Scottish, to divide the two is to undo history and heritage that every Anglo and Celt should be proud of.

Camden Cook
Camden Cook

That's great, lad, can you answer my question?

Jack Peterson
Jack Peterson

You can't even mention Trump in civilized conversation in the US. Nothing short of calling him the next Hitler will suffice. You can't even come off as "well I wont be voting for him". That's not enough. Unless you want his head on a pike, you're a racist and evil.

Aaron Mitchell
Aaron Mitchell

Scotland leaving would be great, it would mean lefty fuckers who want to sell the country to mudslimes get that much less power

Gavin Martinez
Gavin Martinez

That's surprisingly not the case with are nige. Leftists dislike him but most people just think of him as right wing.

What's your excuse for pic related?

Nolan Smith
Nolan Smith

Scotland is identical to South Africa. A lot of the area is legitimately deprived and that's being taken advantage of by socialist "nationalists" to perpetuate their single party state. Does Scotland need more funding? Perhaps. Are the SNC the way to get it? No.

Logan Murphy
Logan Murphy

Can't find any pics of mummy when she was in her youth. :(

Jack Martin
Jack Martin

Same

Jason Wilson
Jason Wilson

That's a Hongi, it's like Maori handshaking, you rub noses, it's awkward and hilarious.

Fun fact though, ever heard of Malignant Hyperthermia? It's basically an allergic reaction to common anesthetics, and it's a Scottish mutation. Not very common, even in Scotland. But a town called Palmerston North here has a HUGE number of Maori with the gene. It turns out a Scottish whaler or whatever the fuck was desperate enough to rape (or god forbid consensually make love to) some natives and spread his genetic malfunction all over the place.

Funnily enough I am British, born and bred, and tested "uncertain" for the mutation (mum has it).

Nolan Thompson
Nolan Thompson

This isn't the place to post your medical problems, lad.

Oliver Phillips
Oliver Phillips

using 'mummy' literally ever

Luis Long
Luis Long

It is all a bit deflating. Had my head on for Boris.

Andrew Flores
Andrew Flores

The term you're looking for is unironically, lad. And everyone is doing it ironically.

Jonathan Williams
Jonathan Williams

Andrea's blog, goes back to 2006.

http://www.andrealeadsom.com/working-for-you/andrea's-blog

If you find anything that could be dragged up to hurt her, email her and let her know, don't post it here.

Dylan Hernandez
Dylan Hernandez

You wanted to know about Maori race mixing m8, I thought this slow thread might appreciate the anecdote

Camden Morales
Camden Morales

Still, if the Scots legit have a referendum and actually vote to leave the UK just for the sake to suck on the nipple of the EU for the love of taking in rapefugees and take up the Euro, and fighting English "intolerence" they are better off out

Daniel Harris
Daniel Harris

either was is just dreadful

Kayden Bell
Kayden Bell

asking us to cover up her misdemeanours covertly
Are you her PR manager?

I mean, I still will, but it's all very Jewish.

Joseph Harris
Joseph Harris

Is that how you feel about Que "should have been mssacred in 1759" bec?

Elijah Gutierrez
Elijah Gutierrez

I enjoyed it. Bit of local flavour.

Nicholas Perez
Nicholas Perez

FREEDOM

Nathan Fisher
Nathan Fisher

How the fuck long will it take the Cons to whittle it down to two then?

Thomas Peterson
Thomas Peterson

Quebecers are all right, most of the independence stuff was mostly a 90s thing

And in terms of finance, they're doing much better than the rest of Canada

Tyler Young
Tyler Young

Twitter really needs to stop including people's tags in the letter count.

Andrew Lee
Andrew Lee

The UK is an absolute shambles in terms of GDP. We used to produce the worlds finest steel in Sheffield, not long ago, now it's been torn down and everywhere north and west of Birmingham is derelict.

The bizarre thing is if any labour politician, particularly Corbyn ran on a promise to reopen all our industries they'd be PM by the end od the year.

Henry Richardson
Henry Richardson

tell that to the fucking porridge jockeys mate

Eli Diaz
Eli Diaz

get rid of extremely popular right wing presenter over a disagreement with a fucking busboy
Import new presenters and rebrand it diversity gear
wonder why the show isn't as popular
gg bbc

Luis Fisher
Luis Fisher

This American has resorted to every leftist meme in the book. There really has to be a manual for this stuff. A Dummy's Guide to Shilling.

Brandon Ramirez
Brandon Ramirez

I doubt many body watched it for Clarksons politics.

Dominic Hall
Dominic Hall

Can't Dread the Lead

Lincoln Bailey
Lincoln Bailey

It's not really political. It's just Clarkson was an entertaining twat while Evans is an annoying twat.

Parker Mitchell
Parker Mitchell

t. head of the bbc cultural understanding department

Adrian James
Adrian James

Lefties didn't watch it because it was too "laddish".

Jason Adams
Jason Adams

And yet they trained to retain that. They cleaned it up and it didn't work but the format was largely the same.

Nothing about it made sense.

Leo Flores
Leo Flores

I don't provide citations, but I never ask for them either.

Grayson Price
Grayson Price

Clarkson was literally the only right wing person the BBC had left.

Chris Evans literally did impressions of Clarky in an attempt to be liked.

Luis Young
Luis Young

BBC got a hold of it now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-36710783

Donald Trump's use of a blatantly anti-Semitic image from racist websites to promote his campaign would be disturbing enough," Mrs Clinton's campaign team told US media.

Oliver Bennett
Oliver Bennett

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Levi Long
Levi Long

So we can't use 6 pointed stars now? Fuck the jews.

Jose Hall
Jose Hall

what?

Elijah Campbell
Elijah Campbell

Can you read?

Luke Morgan
Luke Morgan

It's pretty clear he or his campaign team just did something a bit stupid. That's as far as any criticism should go. Suggesting it's indicative of anything more is intellectually dishonest and they all know it.

Jayden Phillips
Jayden Phillips

stop user youre making me cry T^T

Angel Bennett
Angel Bennett

Can't get enthused about May vs Leadsom at all. What a shitshow.

Ethan Hughes
Ethan Hughes

You are right. However the media will just nitpick anything to make Trump look bad. I bet he would be labeled as a Satan worshipper if they had used a pentagram instead.

Aiden Rivera
Aiden Rivera

Well that was a complete waste of a couple hours but watching that guy go off on one because I said he was a social tyrant was pretty amusing.

I'd post it all but Im on my phone and can't be bothered to edit out names.

Jaxon Davis
Jaxon Davis

Why does this image seem so pensive? He's got a fairly normal expression on, and yet this image seems to invoke a really meaningful reaction from me.

Bentley Davis
Bentley Davis

Lighting & eyebrow

Dominic Howard
Dominic Howard

me mum might make spag bol for tea tomorrow lads

Luis Miller
Luis Miller

Just one of those photos init. A good brilliant picture that capture true emotions.

Austin James
Austin James

yeah, init.

Logan Davis
Logan Davis

That looks so comfy. I like it.

I hope I get to experience that kind of scenery sometime in my life.

Jayden Rodriguez
Jayden Rodriguez

LEADSOM IS POLLING AHEAD OF MAY

Feels good to be a #LeadsomBullet

Anthony Perry
Anthony Perry

Nigel just has one of those faces that a great man has, someone who has the appearance of a great leader, which can't be bought

UKIP might keep nipping on Labours vote share, but the party is just so much the worse without him

Josiah Jenkins
Josiah Jenkins

HANG HANNAN

Easton Sanchez
Easton Sanchez

beautiful

Brandon Rodriguez
Brandon Rodriguez

Somone saved my OC

:DD

Chase Morales
Chase Morales

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/05/nicky-campbell-interracial-adoption-creates-extra-layer-of-ident/

Nicky Campbell, the BBC presenter who was adopted as a baby, has warned that interracial adoption risks creating “an extra layer of identity problems” for children, after changes to the law that make it easier to place children with parents of a different ethnicity.
Campbell, who also hosts the ITV show Long Lost Family, which reunites relatives after years of separation, said that he no longer believed that “love is love, whatever colour or race the adoptive parents are”, adding that he now thought the issue was more complex.
The presenter, who was adopted when he was four days old, told Radio Times that adopted children already faced an “identity crisis” because of differences with their adoptive family.

This man was just redpilled

Sebastian Bennett
Sebastian Bennett

You might get a "shy Tory" effect with him then. People who won't admit they're voting for him in public so the polls look really skewed. Worth it for the eternal asspain from lefties on election day.

Ayden Turner
Ayden Turner

It doesn't really matter what Trump's national numbers are, as long as he wins the battleground states (Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Pennsylvania; all of which he's polling within 2 points) while holding every expected Republican state, he'll win.

Hudson Peterson
Hudson Peterson

Did Liam Fox pull out?

Also Cuntless Carswell on BBC 1 in 3mins

Brody Russell
Brody Russell

Snibbity Snab I'm Stephen Crabb :DDDDDD

Owen Rivera
Owen Rivera

I still can't believe there are people protesting democracy out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q3Q5hHeb6k

Grayson Garcia
Grayson Garcia

YOU'RE OUT OF TOUCH

I'M OUT OF TIME

BUT I'M OUT OF MY HEAD WHEN YOU'RE NOT AROUND

Sebastian Phillips
Sebastian Phillips

that gril is a qt 3.14

Juan Lopez
Juan Lopez

Carswell
I send smiley pics all the time on twitter

Jordan Bell
Jordan Bell

I send out lots of smileys on twitter
fuck this cunt

Daniel Murphy
Daniel Murphy

Cuckswell going full cuck

William Rogers
William Rogers

Such a shame she was born with no brains.
Indeed, Carswell needs purging.

Connor Ross
Connor Ross

B)

Blake Cruz
Blake Cruz

nativism

when did this cancer word become so pervasive?

Ian Foster
Ian Foster

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/749255548344885248

holy shit did you guys know about this?

Liam Edwards
Liam Edwards

Filthy kike is a fifth column informant. Who'd have guessed?

Levi Price
Levi Price

DP back to 60mins. 11.30

Jaxon Williams
Jaxon Williams

What cigarettes does Nigel smoke? I tried looking through pics of him smoking but i just couldn't tell.
Has he ever said?

Angel Cook
Angel Cook

Comrade Corbyn will send her to gulag.

Noah Lopez
Noah Lopez

So we just let MPs openly spy for other countries now? Even if they are an ally this is unacceptable.

Caleb Edwards
Caleb Edwards

He doesn't actually smoke, they're all photo-ops, or photoshopped.

Landon Baker
Landon Baker

Don't lie to me Burger, I know that's not true

Anthony Ward
Anthony Ward

I refuse to believe he smokes Marlboro Golds, surely not

Christopher Green
Christopher Green

Are Nige is a Marlboro Man

nice

Andrew Morris
Andrew Morris

does strictly protect mean "her identity is strictly protected by the US government"?

Levi Torres
Levi Torres

It means her identity should be strictly protected.

Grayson Fisher
Grayson Fisher

A Scottish Jew spying for our """"Closest Ally""""

Jeremiah Barnes
Jeremiah Barnes

It means she's an informant (i.e. spy) and the fact that she's an informant must be a tightly held secret.

Chase Lopez
Chase Lopez

Apart from when it counted and then it turned out he was a massive remainer cucklord...makes you think really. Was he controversial just to drum up media hype most of the time...thought on voting day he'd be on a float clad in Klan outfit complete with burning crosses throwing nazi salutes.
t. concerned taxpayer

Anthony Kelly
Anthony Kelly

Can a brit explain what happened?

Benjamin Lewis
Benjamin Lewis

She is a strictly protect (keep her identity secret at all costs) asset to the US government. In this document (we don't know how many documents like this may exist) she was giving the US inside information on when a General Election will be held following Tony Blair (Iraq War criminal) leaving office mid term.

Owen Williams
Owen Williams

thanks for the explanation, user.

Jonathan Garcia
Jonathan Garcia

Arent this State Treason?

Austin Walker
Austin Walker

Andrea Leadsom, "Our future and that of our children and grandchildren will be so much better outside the EU. We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

Kayden Adams
Kayden Adams

jewish people are above the law

they don't even have to agree to nuclear inspections like every other country because MUH HOLOCAUST

Grayson Myers
Grayson Myers

I used to think so. I mean a fucking Scottish Jewish left-wing Blairite purposefully leaked top secret information to the Americans for personal gain (Her husband is exec. of the British American Project) and our government didn't do shit, in fact 6 years later she got elected as an MP.

The telegraph reported her treason in 2011 but nothing was done
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8304495/WikiLeaks-cables-Gordon-Brown-forced-to-scrap-plan-for-snap-election.html

Where were you when you lost faith in your country Sup Forums? I thought it was getting better too.

Jackson Garcia
Jackson Garcia

Sadly,no such thing

Tyler Bailey
Tyler Bailey

She said it mate... some of it. I just included subtext for ease of understanding.

Brody Robinson
Brody Robinson

There is no meeting between Tom Watson and the big four unions today over Jeremy Corbyn, say union sources.
What does that supposed to mean......
And when they finnally anounce their great challenger for party leadership?

William Allen
William Allen

A challenger has emerged.

And she will take Corbyn's head and lead Labour to victory against the bankers and their much maligned bonuses.

Justin Miller
Justin Miller

Why does she look so repulsive?

Lincoln Moore
Lincoln Moore

So I'm not one for conspiracies, but I'm left wondering.

In the 2007 Scottish parliament election, around 100,000 ballot papers were spoiled. That election was won by the SNP by a single seat.

Do you think the effect of the spoiled papers, had they been done properly, would've been to tip the balance to Labour, or to the SNP?

If I was one for conspiracy theories, I would say it was clearly Labour trying desperately to get one seat ahead of the SNP and stay in power. If I was one looking otherwise, I might say the balance was tipped to the SNP by the spoiled papers because of prejudice to those who could continue voting Labour for so long.

Such a tight election result with so many spoiled ballots is fascinating, especially given that it became a political hand-grenade under the Labour party in Scotland.

Jordan Robinson
Jordan Robinson

She's related to gollum.

Jordan Allen
Jordan Allen

Well it's espionage under the official secrets act. Worth a complaint to the police I think.

Hunter Evans
Hunter Evans

I don't know what you mean, user.

She's an English petal.

Alexander Torres
Alexander Torres

Her head is really deformed
How can they put a spinless dyke in charge of coup?You cannot win anything with "that"

Lucas Russell
Lucas Russell

Just another one for Comrade Corbyn's purging list.

Matthew Thomas
Matthew Thomas

if any labour politician, particularly Corbyn ran on a promise to reopen all our industries they'd be PM by the end od the year.
Nah. They'd win all the areas Labour already win in (and maybe some of Scotland back), but they'd lose where it really matters: the marginal seats full of middle-class folk.

You'd end up with something like the last election all over again.

Charles Gonzalez
Charles Gonzalez

Oh fuck me. It's literally one of the default shapes in MS paint.

Jason Myers
Jason Myers

Will he adopt Union of Britain flag as his own?

Easton Rodriguez
Easton Rodriguez

I would usually talk shit to you Britbongs, but after Brexit, you fuckers have gained a lot of respect from me. Congrats, bros.

Noah Carter
Noah Carter

i feel like death in the morning

Tyler Thomas
Tyler Thomas

oi just drink a cup o tea and youll be good m80

Juan Flores
Juan Flores

Nige was just on LBC. He sounded very happy and was positive about our situation. Going to miss him terribly.

Camden King
Camden King

As long as it has the hammer and sickle on it.

Landon Sanders
Landon Sanders

Comrade Corbyn will one day crush Europe under his iron socialist fist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjHMYNM46Fw

James Morgan
James Morgan

i don't get it
is corbyn a communist?

Ryan Allen
Ryan Allen

How does one seize the means of production in a service economy?

Jason Kelly
Jason Kelly

it has hammer and torch.....

Angel Perry
Angel Perry

In hearth - yes
In actuall politics - no,he is social-democrat at best

Leo Parker
Leo Parker

Scottish
So here's a question for you all

Can the one area that Scottish Nationalists and the majority of Brit/pol/ agree on that Blairite Scots are the worst plague both in British history as a whole and Scottish history in particular?

It's something that's always interested me. For as much as is made of "Hate the English :^)", some of the worst people I can think of are Scots. (Admittedly, a lot of them are pretend-y "Proud Scots" who ran away from Scotland as fast as British Rail could carry them.)

Maybe that's why Scottish nationalism isn't ethnically based. It lets you write off people like Anthony Charles Lynton Blair and David Cameron for their links to Scotland for reasons of residency. :^)

Nolan Wilson
Nolan Wilson

i miss him lads

Easton Rogers
Easton Rogers

Lads, would it make sense to call using immigration to increase left-wing voters 'cultural gerrymandering'?

Christian Nguyen
Christian Nguyen

Imagine if Chilcott AND Hillary's indictment happened on the same day.

I wouldn't be able to contain my excitement.

Jonathan Cox
Jonathan Cox

who took their toilet paper

Camden Hill
Camden Hill

It would make sense to call it bloody idiocy to be honest.

It's one of the many Blairite stunts that have exploded in their face, because now poor native Britons hate the Labour party for being so keen on immigrants. Instead of building up the left-wing vote, they've split it beyond repair.

Charles Russell
Charles Russell

Well Scots are Anglos so it would be weird for it to be ethnically based.

Jaxon Wood
Jaxon Wood

Except that they're Celts.

Jonathan Taylor
Jonathan Taylor

Reminder, Scotland need to fuck off, and fuck off soon.

Jacob Powell
Jacob Powell

Watch the first clip in this video and you will know why everyone in England is saying fuck Scotland after the BREXIT vote.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaTxBPmikRY

Isaac Gray
Isaac Gray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3RvsBnxTEY

and to think I used to like this guy

Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright

I had him pegged as a Benson & Hedges man

Kayden Myers
Kayden Myers

(((Waltz)))

Caleb Evans
Caleb Evans

actors think they are as smart as the characters they play

tehy are corny and dead inside normies

John Hughes
John Hughes

le scrunched up face of remainer bitterness

Never gets old, senpai

Cooper Walker
Cooper Walker

Reminder that Scotland was fiscally balanced until very recently.

They've been saying it for long enough before that. Honestly from a cynical perspective, I kind of like the "Fuck Scotland" attitude. It's ultimately advantageous to point and go "Look, they don't like us anyway."

Furthermore, that justification was entirely sound - and the UK did vote to leave. So all is well.

"Leave the UK first" is the most rational Scottish Nationalist position because it allows you to convince voters the EU will act as a stabilizing mechanism, making independence less risky (this is why the SNP took up Pro-EU stances in the first place, after being anti-EEC in 1975. Amusingly, they tried to make it a referendum on the UK then as well, although they failed.), After that you can look at getting Scotland out of Europe.

Within a devolutionary context this is also the same. Westminster is the harder one to escape because you have to get Westminster's permission for a referendum. Meanwhile, the UK can hold a referendum of it's own accord.

John Phillips
John Phillips

love it when actors talk about politics.

Tyler Brooks
Tyler Brooks

for heavens sake man, GOVE

What did he mean by this?

Thomas Martinez
Thomas Martinez

love it when actors talk about politics.
I do when it's Mel Gibson.

Cooper Sullivan
Cooper Sullivan

Also
Source: Kevvrage

James Rodriguez
James Rodriguez

https://www.kikebook.com/JeremyCorbynMP/videos/10154352135343872/

Corbyn made a video asking for Labour Party Unity. Hr's not going anywhere, he's going down with this ship.

Easton Sanchez
Easton Sanchez

wake up
still no true conservative party
go back to sleep

Jose Cox
Jose Cox

Bush: But you know, Tony, the American people will never forget what you are doing. And people say to me, you know, is Prime Minister Blair really with you all the way? Do you have faith in him? And I say yes, because I recognise leadership when I see it. And true courage. He won’t let us down.
At this Blair laughs again, seeming unsure how to respond.
Blair: Well, it might be my epitaph.
Bush [laughing]: Like … RIP here lies a man of courage, you mean?
Blair [nervously]: Yeah, right.

Oh Mr. Blair. So perceptive.

Now get to the Hague.

William Lewis
William Lewis

We all will, just watch how his mere presence makes May shit herself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpPtwD5AV9o

The guy was a walking weapon.

Thomas Ramirez
Thomas Ramirez

Would you buy this guy a pint, brit/pol/?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/685800/SAS-hero-ISIS-Gurkha-knife-Islamic-State-terror-Iraq

Colton Diaz
Colton Diaz

Start a party then?

Mason Price
Mason Price

It's a shame nothing will actually happen to him. Best we can hope for is his legacy being completely ruined.

Anthony Bell
Anthony Bell

She's surprisingly small. I thought she would be tall.

Bentley Hernandez
Bentley Hernandez

Wouldn't have been so bad if Ruth hadn't come out for Remain.

Hunter Kelly
Hunter Kelly

£ not looking great today

Juan Anderson
Juan Anderson

atleast i do

Cameron Williams
Cameron Williams

no true conservative
no true scotsman

fuck off

Ayden Williams
Ayden Williams

American education

Oliver Cruz
Oliver Cruz

I have a strong hope that should Scotland get independence, historians will primarily lay the blame at his feet. While things had been brewing for a while, without him and without Iraq there's no way we'd be where we are now.

New parties usually don't go anywhere or fold into extant parties.
Even UKIP took over a decade to start getting serious attention.

Better off reforming an existing one. I'm pretty sure if you could get two mates together you could stage a coup in the Scottish Liberal Democrats, although you'd need to be as heartless as Tony Blair to coup poor Willie Rennie.

Nicholas Smith
Nicholas Smith

Friendly reminder that Theresa "Anyone But" May is the choice for butthurt remainers.

https://twitter.com/THAT_Jane/status/750081478868996096

Jeremiah Jones
Jeremiah Jones

David Davis backing May.

Mason Martin
Mason Martin

that pinned tweet

kek

Mason Edwards
Mason Edwards

The Express makes up stories about military escapades.

They claimed that a Russian bomber carried a nuclear missile over the channel, when the aircraft photographed wasn't even a nuclear-capable variant. I asked the author for his source and his response was "We got word from Top Guys and they heard the Nuclear Codeword on the Walkie Talkie blah blah blah'

Juan Long
Juan Long

No surprises there

Luis Garcia
Luis Garcia

Kek so the Express are Skyking thread regulars then?

Samuel Richardson
Samuel Richardson

SNP logo is literally a noose for the scots to hang themselves with.

Brody Bailey
Brody Bailey

I've been thinking about making some sort of media watchdog group to try and deal with this shit because it's unelievable how full of shit the press is allowed to be

Joseph Wilson
Joseph Wilson

I'm honestly filled with terror at the prospect of May being PM.

I'd advocate for an independent St. Kilda and move there if I thought it could save me from living in a country governed by May.

Oliver White
Oliver White

Is there a Tory vote today?

Jaxson Nelson
Jaxson Nelson

Well the story claims he's 27 years old with 15 years of experience, so he joined the army at age 12.

Seems legit.

Also, I actually like being a member of the EU. A 'sovereign' UK is not as important to me. Free movement is a positive to me.

No hope for these people.

I don't think independence for Scotland is very likely at the moment. There's too many stars that'd need to align.

Angel Murphy
Angel Murphy

That's when you can join the cadets.

Zachary Morgan
Zachary Morgan

It's a thistle.

If you want a more amusing story, in the late 80s and early 90s it was a more angular variant of the same logo.

Which as well as being a PR nightmare for looking vaguely fascist, was coincidentally also identical to an upside down Odal rune. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odal_%28rune%29 )
Now, apparently an inverted rune has negative connotations. So you've got the negative version of the rune for heritage...

Adrian Sullivan
Adrian Sullivan

Scotland go independent.
We are so fucking broke.

David Williams
David Williams

waking up to a world without Nige as head of a political party
you will one day wake up to a world without Nige at all

Matthew Bailey
Matthew Bailey

SWEDEN

Dominic Rogers
Dominic Rogers

It's a thistle.
I regret starting with that to tell my story now. It comes across as a genuine connection, and it bothers my need for technical accuracy because it's not just a thistle, it's also a saltire, and a clootie dumpling (which is what it's named, incidentally.)

Regardless of your views on the SNP, it's a remarkably clever design for being able to work all that symbolism into such a memorable symbol. Compare Labour's "We'll use a rose because other social democrats use a rose" and the Conservatives "Fuck you, it's a tree."

They said the same about Brexit Britain.

One should not base long-term decisions on short term financial outlooks.

Brayden Reyes
Brayden Reyes

YES!

Brayden Reyes
Brayden Reyes

Farage LBC show when?

If Katie Hopkins can get one. Lets get him in

Evan Martin
Evan Martin

what is farage fridays

Caleb Sanchez
Caleb Sanchez

How do they do that? That's pretty scary

Caleb Hughes
Caleb Hughes

Based Katie has her own show? When is it on?

Wyatt Reed
Wyatt Reed

i wonder if the express will hire me i've clearly got what it takes

Jeremiah Taylor
Jeremiah Taylor

Interesting.

I thought the Swedes had a filter of their own, but that looks like it's being done on the Daily Mail's end.

Ethan Myers
Ethan Myers

Media collusion with government.
They might have article main HTML body on a different domain, to make it easier for IP/DNS blocking. I don't know, but trust me it's easy to do.

Michael Gomez
Michael Gomez

They're probably being paid by the swedish government to do it

Jace Martin
Jace Martin

cant see it on the schedule. When he has done phone ins on LBC he gets respect and i get the sense he enjoys it. Think he would fit in very well

10-12 on a Sunday. Shes actually really good. Talks a lot about education but doesnt like teachers or unions.

Joseph Stewart
Joseph Stewart

The best thing about the Labour party isn't that they have an unelectable leader, it isn't even the fact that the next most likely leader is even more unelectable; it's that the labour members are happy to vote for them.

Eli Williams
Eli Williams

Just woke up

Anything new happening?

Carson Scott
Carson Scott

Nah the UK is still royally fucked.

Nolan Richardson
Nolan Richardson

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ocP1ilHVWlAJ:speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.2446/daily-mail-blocks-sweden-for-legal-reasons.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
Interesting. (opened in cache because the fucking bastards use an anti-adblocker.)

Lucas Evans
Lucas Evans

Who is even more unelectable than comrade corbyn?

Jeremiah Miller
Jeremiah Miller

Try explaining to a Corbynite why their little movement has already reached critical mass. And that just because their feels are out of control doesn't mean the electorate will go the same way. Its aneurysm inducing. Never seen this level of delusion before

Leo Perry
Leo Perry

Diane Abbott.

Luke Sanders
Luke Sanders

They really have nobody good anymore.

Cooper Cooper
Cooper Cooper

Has anyone noticed that Corbyn didn't really seem bothered about Jo Cox dying?

Easton Kelly
Easton Kelly

eagle has landed

Ayden Baker
Ayden Baker

He probably heard about it happening before it did through the rest of the Remain campaigners who arranged it. Already dealt with it.

Henry Anderson
Henry Anderson

Eagle. Watson. Basically anyone who'd replace Corbyn is just as unelectable. Labour is completely devoid of talent and will inevitably elect another funny looking weird who's sole life experience is being the chief departmental fellator to some Blairite scumbag minister before getting a safe seat in 2005.

The best they've got is Dan "All I know is that he was a soldier." Jarvis, and he actually polls behind Eagle and Watson inside the party, demonstrating forever that Labour deserve their oncoming death.

Blairites are just as infuriating, under the illusion that by replacing Corbyn and moving right on policy they can actually win an election again.

I pray UKIP stay in the game after the UK leaves the EU, so that Wales and the North go UKIP and leave Labour to the dustbin of history.

Jayden Nguyen
Jayden Nguyen

That Eldritch Horror Germany poster is so great

Nicholas Moore
Nicholas Moore

When he had to stand next to Dave at her memorial he looked very uncomfortable. I think he knows something we don't, finds the whole thing disgusting but of course has to go along for the ride.

Jaxson Gutierrez
Jaxson Gutierrez

Scottush born British citizen here, is there any hope for the repatriation of Scottish Parliament to Westminster?

you all laughed at me

Bentley Cooper
Bentley Cooper

Why did someone so capable have to turn out to be such a bloody libertarian traitor

Charles Gomez
Charles Gomez

mine's never given me any problems, and I can't really fit more than six, so you are probably alright m8

Oliver Smith
Oliver Smith

Would you give her a spanking to straighten her out, brit/pol/?

Thomas Robinson
Thomas Robinson

Legally, it can happen.
Politically it's (a) insanity and (b) relatively stupid given that Holyrood has demonstrably been rather competent.

In a fight between the UK without devolution and independence, independence would now win heartily. There's a reason that even in the mid-90s, Labour's George Robertson refused to concede what his "Second favourite" option was (Salmond was Independence > Devolution > Status Quo. George was "Call the audience member a SNP plant, then go on about how you have no second option whatsoever because admitting it's the then-status-quo would be politically harmful")

Jordan Rogers
Jordan Rogers

And she literally died for nothing too

Jacob Rivera
Jacob Rivera

The only way to do it politically is to elect a party in Holyrood who would do it or hold a referendum on it.

Why though? Just stop electing retards in there. More localised power is generally better.

Jayden Barnes
Jayden Barnes

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/686048/EU-referendum-Brussels-Britain-pay-12billion-budget-Brexit-vote Is this right? Or just shit peddling.

Xavier Ramirez
Xavier Ramirez

Isn't that the normal fee we'd just pay until we leave

Ryder Mitchell
Ryder Mitchell

We're still bound by the treaties, so yes. We have to continue all our current EU obligations. We've been paying around £10Bn net every year since we joined.

Bentley Murphy
Bentley Murphy

"Demands" is overly emotive wording.

It's basically "because we've not Article 50'd, Brussels has made another budget just like it's any other year."

Never trust a headline.

Leo Peterson
Leo Peterson

given that Holyrood has demonstrably been rather competent.

Nathaniel Richardson
Nathaniel Richardson

No, the EU occasionally lumps huge bills out of nowhere on us to fill their deficit.

Jaxon Brooks
Jaxon Brooks

Without a single bullet being fired

John Collins
John Collins

Based Raheem confirmed standing for UKIP leadership

Zachary Perez
Zachary Perez

Yeah it is, but given our current "in limbo" status I'm not sure how it works. Whether it's akin to going to a restaurant and saying this is shit I'm not paying you froggy cunts fuck all and the EU is happy to fuck us off just to get rid of us or they want some tips before they send us on our way.

Dylan Garcia
Dylan Garcia

Since the SNP took power, they've reallocated budgets to restore free tuition, realized prescription charges cost almost as much to administer as they earned in revenue, stopped using Labour-style PFI schemes that bleed money, all in alignment with what voters wanted.

These policies are a marked improvement on what we'd have if things were left with the Scotland office, because they align spending priorities with what people actually want instead of what the Scotland office wants.

Power without accountability is not a good thing, and running Scottish affairs from Westminster is about as close to power without accountability as you can get.

Evan Foster
Evan Foster

Based Hopkins

http://www.lbc.co.uk/katie-hopkins-rages-at-safety-pin-campaign--133251

Joseph Bailey
Joseph Bailey

This lad is based. He's a Pakistani who knows about white replacement, instead of jealously furthering it he stands against it because he knows that British culture and history isn't interchangeable with others and doesn't want it subsumed by rapefugee hordes.

Hudson Morales
Hudson Morales

"Demands" is overly emotive wording.
so we have a choice on whether to pay it or not?

kek, that'll go down with the rest of the angry nativists

omg, your serious? top kek m8

what about scuckland's 10% deficit? the worst in Europe? worse even than Grease?

wow, good job scuckish racist party

Jace Campbell
Jace Campbell

take your safety pins and fff.. prick 'em in your eye!

Based af. Can't wait till she grows her hair back

Logan Bailey
Logan Bailey

What a coward.
not being ready to die for the people
Pathetic really.

Easton Price
Easton Price

fookin saved M8.

Lucas Cruz
Lucas Cruz

TNK if you ask me

Chase Collins
Chase Collins

what about scuckland's 10% deficit? the worst in Europe? worse even than Grease?
This isn't under Holyrood's control. Nor was it under Holyrood's control when Scotland was ahead of the UK financially around 2012. Holyrood is allocated an essentially fixed budget to allocate at will. Even with the receipt of income tax powers, varying the rate up is essentially not possible within the union for obvious reasons (people will move to Berwick).

"Scotland's 10% deficit" is a projection of the financial state of an independent Scotland based on huge amounts of guesswork because Scotland isn't actually independent.
For a simple example that cropped up in the white paper, Scotland gets assigned £3bn defence spending, but only about £2bn of it actually occurs in Scotland. Scotland also gets assigned a population share of UK debt repayments, even if a notional independent Scotland historically wouldn't have had those debts (because of muh oil in the 1980s and 90s, Scotland would've been running a surplus, but that's not factored in because the UK as a whole did not. Thus, Scotland gets a population share of debt from the entire UK.)

Scotland isn't, as you know, an independent country, and the status of a hypothetical independent Scotland has nothing to do with Holyrood's competence within the UK.

Josiah Jones
Josiah Jones

Spoiler alert: we're never going to article 50.

The leave campaign leadership never expected to win, have no plan, and are scattering like cockroaches after the light has been turned on.

Cameron stepping down instead of pushing the button politically checkmates brexit by making the tory party leadership is a poison chalice of bullshit that no competent person wants to drink from.

Nobody has the balls to article 50 when they actually look at all the work and risk that it would put on their shoulders. And there's no legal obligation to do so because referendums are not binding in any way.

Sup Forums got cucked again. Enjoy your blueballs.

Colton Bennett
Colton Bennett

The UK will almost certainly article 50 when there's the option of a Norway Style "wow it's nothing" deal that technically meets the aspirations of the populace.

Blake Hughes
Blake Hughes

If she removed a lot of the attention-seeking crap she could be a valuable ally and voice of reason. However she's done too much hypocritical shit, that her genuine moments of brilliance are largely ignored because of her reputation.

Kevin Gutierrez
Kevin Gutierrez

So never?

Michael Miller
Michael Miller

*HAHA COLONIAL BRITAIN GETTING WHAT IT DESERVES*
*Conveniently forgets every civilisation ever has had a territorial past*

Cooper Foster
Cooper Foster

a territorial past
what did he mean by this

Kayden Taylor
Kayden Taylor

It'll happen.

If they're going to try and lock people in, they'll hold another referendum to overturn this one, which they'll most likely lose. Simply ignoring it is not politically viable.

Isaac Richardson
Isaac Richardson

they were threatening his kids
you're shitposting on Sup Forums
kys gypo

Wyatt White
Wyatt White

what are we watching?

Carter Reed
Carter Reed

they were threatening his kids
taking twitter death threats seriously

Cooper Brown
Cooper Brown

Guy's he has been trained at acting school, we should probably listen to his views on economic and political matters.

Blake Garcia
Blake Garcia

I don't see why nobody would want to invoke article 50. 52% of the country want them to do it, after all. They'd go down in history as a British legend. It's not even a surprise anymore. Nobody can rage at the fact they are doing it - it is assumed that they will do it.

Maybe Leadsom has the willpower to do it. She's practically come from nowhere, it's the perfect scenario for her. If it goes tits up she can bail and we'd all forgive her friendly granny face.

Carson Cook
Carson Cook

CHILCOT TOMORROW LADS

Get your popcorn fucking ready

Josiah Fisher
Josiah Fisher

Nothing will happen. Nothing.

Hunter King
Hunter King

To be honest I'm just practising saying "Whitewash" in my most indignant voice.

Anything short of "Tony Blair should be tried for war crimes" isn't good enough.

Thomas Gutierrez
Thomas Gutierrez

No they actually attacked him when he was in the pub with is kids

If I remember correctly Britain First retaliated

Wyatt Young
Wyatt Young

We got Brexit to actually win, lads!
Kek is on our side for now, if we will Chilcot to be a blowout it shall be so.

Asher Moore
Asher Moore

Ah yeah, missed that when skim-reading the article.

The article spends more time focusing on "Someone said to shoot him on Twitter!" The sooner the press learn that people can find out what people are saying on Twitter themselves, the better.

Cooper Johnson
Cooper Johnson

Britain 'will remain in the EU': Austrian minister

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/World/2016/Jul-05/360640-britain-will-remain-in-the-eu-austrian-minister.ashx

Chase Ortiz
Chase Ortiz

by the time Nigel revealed he really was a fascist, the nation was ready.

Isaac Richardson
Isaac Richardson

So UK buddies, what do yall think is the likelihood of either Gove or Crabb getting to the final ballot?

Not winning, but just getting to the final 2.

Isaac Nelson
Isaac Nelson

In recent days, it has been reported that “senior figures” from Labour and the Scottish National Party are considering an attempt to impeach Blair - which could theoretically see him banned from holding elected office and even being sent to prison - if he is strongly criticised by Chilcot.
I can't see it succeeding, but that would be a wonderful thing to watch in process if it even got remotely under-way.

Andrew Young
Andrew Young

Crabb is a non-person imo. A total cuck on QT, I'd be surprised if Joe Public had ever heard of him.

Parker Ward
Parker Ward

Even with the receipt of income tax powers, varying the rate up is essentially not possible within the union for obvious reasons
oy vey, ya dobber. och aye, we dinna din naffin

based on huge amounts of guesswork
you mean how much tax revenue they earn minus how much they spend? seems pretty complicated, I'll give you that

historically wouldn't have had those debts
scots being tight with money? nah, I dinnae believe it. anyway, the law is clear on these things, if you have a joint account and your missus runs up a hefty bill, you still have to pay

Holyrood's competence
a useless pile of shite. look at old fishmouth sturgeon strutting around the EU pretending she's important and the EU should just be DIEING to keep the huge asset that scuckland is in their club

chances of scuckland leaving the uk, slim to none, and if they do go, it'll make the rest of the UK richer, as they pay more per head for scucks than any other country

not activating article 50 is pretty much treason and an act of war on the people

I like her a bit

kek

slippery b liar will get away with it

I have no respect for pubic crabs, gove might be ok though

Aiden Bell
Aiden Bell

also lads i'm looking for an old electric sewing machine in shropshire area

could you give ur mums a ring and ask if shes got one going, thanks x

Lincoln Brown
Lincoln Brown

Not at all.

Gove is too hated nationally, Crabbe is a nobody.

Adam Gutierrez
Adam Gutierrez

Don't you mean Anthony Blair?

Brayden Nguyen
Brayden Nguyen

Redpill me on Leadsom, I know nothing of her. Is she better than Gove? And is she a statist like May?

Anthony Cooper
Anthony Cooper

Again, not talking about winning the public vote.

Just winning the MP vote to get on the final 2 ballot that goes to the public.

Gabriel Howard
Gabriel Howard

She's a thatcher that has socialist bones m8, cant go wrong?

Adrian Wright
Adrian Wright

LAWFUL GOOD HITCHENS IS SUPERIOR TO CHAOTIC NEUTRAL HITCHENS

Cameron Cruz
Cameron Cruz

So a shitskin paki will be running for UKIP leadership?

Ian Brown
Ian Brown

Well unless somebody here is a backbench insider you won't get an answer.

Michael Nelson
Michael Nelson

I don't see why nobody would want to invoke article 50.

Besides dumpstering the markets, the pound, ensuring Scottish independence, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, reissuing of all passports at home and abroad, rewriting all of our legislation, and negotiation of all new trade deals with neighbours who now hate us. Only a political moron would push that button.

52% of the country want them to do it, after all.

Even Boris said 52% isn't a resounding endorsement. And it isn't when you see interviews with people who voted leave saying shit like "oh fuck I didn't think my vote mattered".

Charles Ross
Charles Ross

May
statist

explain?
I know you can't trust her, but last week in her announcement of leadership bid she said she wants a minimal government.
I get that she wants to snoop around in my laptop for CP but as far as economics is concerned she is the opposite of a statist (in her own words)

Asher Green
Asher Green

All I know is he replaced IDS

Henry Young
Henry Young

What is this, and why does it constitute a happening?
Fill me in Bongos.

Liam Gomez
Liam Gomez

Maybe statist isn't the right word. I just don't really want to support someone who wants more government spying and a ban on encryption and the like

Joseph Lopez
Joseph Lopez

Even Boris said 52% isn't a resounding endorsement. And it isn't when you see interviews with people who voted leave saying shit like "oh fuck I didn't think my vote mattered".
That's just media lies. Fuck off concern troll.

Dylan Thomas
Dylan Thomas

you mean how much tax revenue they earn minus how much they spend?
"They" do not exist as a coherent entity in many policy areas.
Again, let us take defence. How do you calculate Scotland's portion of the "Defence" bill? Do you assign them a population share per head, or do you go digging in the Army's accounts? Will the army let you scrutinize their accounts? Do you have time to repeat this over all reserved policy areas? If not, you're going to have to guess, which opens up inaccuracies.

Similarly, in many revenue areas: How do you calculate how much VAT is earned in Scotland? You don't. You guess.
the law is clear on these things, if you have a joint account and your missus runs up a hefty bill, you still have to pay
Actually, the law is less clear on these things in creating an independent state. In some circumstances, an independent Scottish state would have no legal obligation to take on any of the UK's debt and would sttart with a clean slate. This would immediately cut the Scottish deficit by eliminating any funding for debt servicing.

look at old fishmouth sturgeon strutting around the EU pretending she's important and the EU should just be DIEING to keep the huge asset that scuckland is in their club
None of this is relevant to policy competence. Furthermore, it is spelled "Dying"
chances of scuckland leaving the uk, slim to none, and if they do go, it'll make the rest of the UK richer, as they pay more per head for scucks than any other country
None of this is relevant to policy competence under devolution.

Josiah Flores
Josiah Flores

Slippery Ex-PM will be told what he "should" have done before going to war, rather than what he actually did before going to war.

Faces no legal consequences, shrugs, gets on with his life.

James Morales
James Morales

Excuse me, it's pronounced "Anthony Charles Lynton Blair"

Hudson King
Hudson King

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Inquiry

Matthew Martin
Matthew Martin

And it isn't when you see interviews with people who voted leave saying shit like "oh fuck I didn't think my vote mattered".

thats the media for you. One poll showed that more Remain people were HAPPY with the result that Leave voters were UNHAPPY, by about 3%.

I think that if there was a second referendum, Leave would win even more, because none of the armageddon scenarios are transpiring - and the main reason people voted to Remain was to avoid the economic risk of leaving (which is being proven every day to be unfounded).

Also remainers have completely let themselves down since the result (especially in London), turning people away from their cause.

Carter Ross
Carter Ross

Passing off a media narrative a reality

Fuck off

Dominic Davis
Dominic Davis

checkmates brexit by making the tory party leadership is a poison chalice of bullshit that no competent person wants to drink from.

They have a political gun to their heads. They either push the button or the Tories are never elected again, because 17.5 million people would never forgive them, and most of the remainers weren't Tory voters to begin with. If the referendum was applied to FPTP the Tories would lose almost every seat in Parliament.

You're in the "bargaining" stage. Progressing nicely.

Blake Sanders
Blake Sanders

ensuring Scottish independence
omg, we get to rid of those deadbeat scucks too!?

get it done!

also, betraying the will of the people is an act of civil war

Matthew Campbell
Matthew Campbell

New thread for when this one hits limit lads.
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Xavier Powell
Xavier Powell

I thought he smoked Bennies as well

Bentley Cox
Bentley Cox

Source on banning encryption?

That'd never make it into law, businesses would lose their nut

Hunter White
Hunter White

it is spelled "Dying"
aah, a newfag

welcome newfriend

the point I was making is that scuckland is a burden to the rest of the UK, and the estimates of this deficit is around 10%

in order to join the EU you have to be under 3%, not to mention that Spain will veto their application(and has already said they will) due to fears that some of it's regions may secede and join.

Scuckland has a choice of lots of UK gibsmedats or full independence, they may even be vetoed from joining NATO

Evan Jenkins
Evan Jenkins

ensuring Scottish independence
omg, we get to rid of those deadbeat scucks too!?
It'll never happen. They had one referendum.

It's fine to rub their noses in staying in the uk though.

don't_forget_you're_here_forever.jpg

Grayson Rogers
Grayson Rogers

not activating article 50 is pretty much treason and an act of war on the people

Lel. Not really tho. Also how is not acting an act of war? Who's going to jail for not pushing the button?

Plenty of people are going to campaign on this issue. If a government is elected after running on the promise of keeping us in the EU, they'll have a valid democratic mandate to ignore the referendum result. Or we could simply ignore it anyway because we don't have the leadership who is willing to do it. So again you'd have to elect new leaders who would do it. So no matter what, the non-binding referendum is and always has been mostly meaningless.

Democracy is an ongoing process, it isn't about making irreversible decisions through referendums.

Carson Reed
Carson Reed

Not the Indians that's for sure.

Evan Parker
Evan Parker

Nationalise banks, transport and utilities

Dylan Peterson
Dylan Peterson

Source on banning encryption?
absolute morans, even if they did ban HTTPD/TLS/VPNs etc, it's not like any actual crims would stop using

it's hilarious how butthurt they are

a cuntry of 6 million dictating to a country of 50ish?

Carter Foster
Carter Foster

Lel. Not really tho. Also how is not acting an act of war? Who's going to jail for not pushing the button?
disregarding the democratic will of the people is treason, as well as war. they won't be going to jail, they'll be getting shot and stabbed by mental brillopad blokes

Bentley Richardson
Bentley Richardson

Tory votes were split on brexit, they'd be hurt either way. It's politically safer to sit on their hands than do anything that would obviously fuck the economy.

Jose Jones
Jose Jones

and the estimates of this deficit is around 10%
And those estimates aren't relevant to Holyrood's competence, which is the point I was making. Stop trying to change the subject to independence.

not to mention that Spain will veto their application(and has already said they will) due to fears that some of it's regions may secede and join.
This argument, if none other, needs to die.

If Scotland holds a referendum recognized by the UK government, they will allow Scotland to join. Spain's legal position is that Catalonia leaving would be unconstitutional. If the UK considered Scotland's secession to be constitutional, Spain would have to follow. Otherwise, it would be clear to everyone that they don't care about constitutionality one bit which would inflame, not calm, the Catalan situation.

Spain have never explicitly stated "We will veto Scotland joining the EU even if the UK recognize the referendum result", they've either made vague statements ("oh, it would be very hard for Scotland...") to discourage facing the issue at all, or made irrelevant statements (Scotland doesn't have the power to negotiate with the EU independently, they have to leave the UK first!)

But this is irrelevant, because we're not talking about independence, we're talking about the competence of devolved administrations.

Alexander Robinson
Alexander Robinson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adl7O6DWQSs

Henry Moore
Henry Moore

Okay well you keep waiting for the beta uprising that will carry us out of the EU. But the political reality is that short of that, it's never going to happen.

Jason Diaz
Jason Diaz

Did your seaside towns really look like that back then? if so you really fucked yourself up worse than we ever could have

Grayson Thomas
Grayson Thomas

It's politically safer to sit on their hands than do anything that would obviously fuck the economy.

I don't think you fully appreciate the consequences this would cause them in 2020.

In the meantime, imagine 17 million people rioting. Not protesting, rioting. It could lead to domestic terrorism. You've just gone and told all the legitimate hardcore BNP type nationalists out there that they will NEVER get their way through the democratic process. How do you suppose those people are going to react?

Internationally Britain's reputation would be destroyed, how's that going to help business confidence? Who is going to invest in an economy so politically unstable and untrustworthy?

The EU might even seize the opportunity to strip us of all those pesky perks we've secured over the years which hinder their integration progress. We'd be getting banter from dictators at the UN.

Time to wake up and smell the coffee.

Camden Campbell
Camden Campbell

And those estimates aren't relevant to Holyrood's competence
really? running a huge defecit isn't incompetent?

and yes, there are a few EU cuntries that won't want scuckland to join

but that's teh beauty, once the first MP murder happened, it was a paradigm shift. I wouldn't be surprised if they were going to cheat to get remain before that

Jaxson Gray
Jaxson Gray

seaside? that's a river mate, possibly london

Ethan Foster
Ethan Foster

running a huge defecit isn't incompetent?
Holyrood has incredibly limited revenue raising powers and by law must run a surplus.
The deficit comes from elsewhere. (Spending assigned from Westminster, and revenues raised by Westminster.)
Learn how devolution works before you talk about it.

Jacob Thompson
Jacob Thompson

Looks like a river

Alexander Kelly
Alexander Kelly

At least he isn't a mudslime, ex-muslims are a growing demographic here. If we can't DOTR or expel them then the best we hope for is they're diluted into the wider population. Plus, ex-muslims are pretty based compared to normie kikebookies, they know the enemy better than anyone.

Josiah Ross
Josiah Ross

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Jonathan Scott
Jonathan Scott

Mental health issues innit.

Adam Bailey
Adam Bailey

Would it be churlish of me to point out that PH drinks half a bottle of wine most nights?

Parker Morris
Parker Morris

so what are the top ten things they've done? and the ten worst

James Stewart
James Stewart

only a half? what a lightweight

Adam Thompson
Adam Thompson

Remember that the powers that be are trying to pin everything on Merkel too. She was foolish and led astray, but she isn't the force behind it all.

Lincoln Long
Lincoln Long

In the meantime, imagine 17 million people rioting. Not protesting, rioting.
Lmao imagination is wonderful isn't it? Daily Express readers aren't the rioting type, not many are.

You've just gone and told all the legitimate hardcore BNP type nationalists out there that they will NEVER get their way through the democratic process. How do you suppose those people are going to react

Probably by watching Jeremy Kyle while drinking a tin of special brew in their trackies at 1pm, as usual.

Internationally Britain's reputation would be destroyed, how's that going to help business confidence? Who is going to invest in an economy so politically unstable and untrustworthy?

Staying in the EU is the stable and trustworthy thing to do for business. You'd have to be a moron to not realise that.

Dylan Carter
Dylan Carter

Fuck off concern troll.

Asher Russell
Asher Russell

Daily Express readers aren't the rioting type, not many are.

Did you miss the riots 2011? That was thousands of people. Imagine millions.

Probably by watching Jeremy Kyle while drinking a tin of special brew in their trackies at 1pm, as usual.

I suppose you're too young to remember the IRA.

Staying in the EU is the stable and trustworthy thing to do for business.

Not at the expense of democracy. Nobody will invest in an unstable country, and ignoring the referendum would make the country unstable for decades.

Luckily the political class isn't as idiotic as you.

Christian Green
Christian Green

Giving you a comprehensive list would start to get hilariously boring. Holyrood is a remarkably administrative institution, it's hard to get excited about "They found the money to give nurses a slight pay rise they were entitled to, unlike in England where they had to maintain a pay freeze", but it's a demonstrably competent administrative policy when you're operating on a fixed budget.

Free tuition would be the headline grabber. Holyrood found money by cutting other budgets that people don't care about, whereas governance from Westminster would've seen the same Blairite garbage policy of fees introduced.

(Bonus: from 1999 until 2007 there were stealth tuition fees in Scotland via the graduate endowment even though it was completely unnecessary as Holyrood had billion-pound surpluses on their fixed budgets.)

Camden Davis
Camden Davis

any refutation of the claim that more is spent on the scucks per head? i.e. that they are a net drain on the rest of the UK?

Ethan James
Ethan James

More is spent per head, but that follows naturally from being a more rural area.
They also generally earned more per head before the oil price crash. In 2012 Scotland was outperforming the UK financially.
(None of this is within Holyrood's competence, however.)

See, pic related.

Currently Scotland is a net drain (as is the UK as a whole, interestingly, given it runs a deficit.) but that's not worth much in terms of the wider picture of the union, both historically and in the future.

Jonathan Garcia
Jonathan Garcia

Did you miss the riots 2011?
The ones that didn't change or affect anything.

Imagining millions of rioters is meaningless. I can imagine anything. I can imagine an alien invasion but it's not going to happen.

Not at the expense of democracy.

Democracy isn't about making irreversible decisions through referendums. It's a process and this is all part of it.

Threatening imaginary riots and terrorism actually isn't part of that process.

John Price
John Price

Currently Scotland is a net drain
yup

so if they want to leave, they'd be doing us a favour, and shooting themselves in the foot

not to mention they will not be able to join the EU with that defecit, and against the wishes of at least 2 other members

Jace Jenkins
Jace Jenkins

Democracy isn't about making irreversible decisions through referendums
kek

it is! the majority rules over the minority, we won, so they must give us our prize

Alexander Kelly
Alexander Kelly

they'd be doing us a favour, and shooting themselves in the foot
In isolation.
If the price of oil spiked to $1000 a barrel next year, then the UK would've shot themselves in the foot letting them go.

Furthermore, their deficit is a non-factor if they aren't joining the Euro (they aren't, because they'd have to join ERM2, which is (a) voluntary and (b) they don't qualify because of the deficit anyway.) and Spain isn't going to veto their entry unless their exit from the UK was unilateral (in which case nobody would recognize it and British tanks would head to Edinburgh, so not getting into the EU would be the least of their worries.)

Levi Johnson
Levi Johnson

I'm not threatening anything. I work on a tropical island moving money around for exceedingly wealthy people. I'm just telling you the consequences of what you're banking on far outweigh any consequences of leaving the EU. People would die. People died in 2011 over looting and "fuck the police" riots.

Democracy isn't about making irreversible decisions through referendums.

The Conservatives were elected on the manifesto promise of holding a referendum on the issue of EU membership and honouring that result.

Parliament voted to commission the referendum.

The referendum was held.

Now you want to ignore the result because the people didn't vote the way you wanted? It would piss on the process and kill any semblance of British democratic legitimacy forever.

Good luck attracting foreign investment after that. I can tell you foreign capital investment would be non-existent.

Camden Ross
Camden Ross

If the price of oil spiked to $1000 a barrel next year
top kek mate

Furthermore, their deficit is a non-factor if they aren't joining the Euro
do they still pretend they can keep our pound?

Henry Cook
Henry Cook

top kek mate
It's a hyperbolic, hypothetical example.

Making long-term national decisions such as whether or not a nation should leave the UK on the basis of this year's balance sheet is not a good idea.

do they still pretend they can keep our pound?
They can. Sterlingisation is almost impossible to prevent, and doesn't require a currency union.

Furthermore, just because Scotland can't use the pound doesn't mean it has to use the Euro. Most likely, in all circumstances, a new currency will be proposed. (Or Sterlingisation followed by a new currency.)

Cooper Richardson
Cooper Richardson

It's a hyperbolic, hypothetical example.
also a ridiculous one as fracking has caused a glut in the market

They can. Sterlingisation is almost impossible to prevent,
how can they unilaterally decide to use our money?

Liam Cooper
Liam Cooper

also a ridiculous one as fracking has caused a glut in the market
This still assumes that it was intended to be remotely possible, instead of generally indicative that Scotland's financial performance could improve in other ways and that in those circumstances it would be a net drain to let them go.
how can they unilaterally decide to use our money?
How are you going to stop them? March into Scotland and take the pound notes out of everyone's hands?

Lots of countries use other nation's currencies. International currency controls are very lax.

Zachary Scott
Zachary Scott

They'd lose the north sea oil though

Joshua Sanders
Joshua Sanders

How are you going to stop them?
I presume we'd ship any plates they have back to england and make it a condition of them leaving that they don't use our currency

Scotland's financial performance could improve in other ways and that in those circumstances it would be a net drain to let them go.
well, their fishing may improve absent the common fisheries crap

Julian Peterson
Julian Peterson

I presume we'd ship any plates they have back to england and make it a condition of them leaving that they don't use our currency
It's really not that simple. (Or worthwhile. It would be damaging to sterling to do so.)

Ultimately it isn't worth the trouble preventing it. It's remarkably common, albeit usually in smaller countries. (See for example, European microstates that use but do not issue Euros or have any say in Euro interest rates, etc.)

Josiah Ross
Josiah Ross

I don't believe you, anyway, they won't leave, because they'd be doing us a favor if they did

Nolan Williams
Nolan Williams

they'd lose the tax on it, as it is owned by the oil companies anyway, who would still sell it us as it's cheaper to sell tous than transport halfway round the world

Eli Gonzalez
Eli Gonzalez

I don't believe you
It's a well known phenomenon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_substitution

Whether it's a good idea or not in a state the size of Scotland is another matter, but it's a policy option that's out there.

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