Why didn't Zod and his crew just raise their kids on the ship?

Why didn't Zod and his crew just raise their kids on the ship?

ON A SHIP?

Because that would make sense.

Because you didn't watch the movie apparently

Because no one told that to his snapped neck

'no'

Because Frodo didn't use the Eagles.

They were gay.

They dont believe in fucking or natural birth, or did you not see that plot point?

Why bother terraforming Earth when it's already plenty livable?

This is the real question. It took Zod'n'pals like an hour to adjust to Earth. And they got super powers from it. If they terraformed Earth to be a pseudo-Krypton they'd lose all those powers

Because deep down Zod wasn't ready for that kind of commitment.

The sun gave them superpowers, not the planet.

You can't recreate a Kryptonian society where they all have superpowers.

That's how it's supposed to work but in the movie Supes loses all his abilities on the ship just from it having Kryptonian air.

The atmosphere was mentioned several times in the movie though? I admit it's been since I saw it in theaters but I'm pretty sure the atmosphere had something to do with it too. In the comics it's just the sun.

Part of terraforming would be changing the atmosphere so the sun's radiation would be greatly less effective.

Because he realized the distress beacon on Earth was from Kal-El's ship. If you remember, he swore revenge on the House of El by finding and killing Jor-El's son. That, and he wanted to reboot his chosen citizens of Krypton, and there's no way their ship could support that.

Zod literally says "And have my people spend years suffering on this planet like YOU did?" to Superman. Just because he was able to fight doesn't mean that Zod wasn't experiencing mind-blowing pain. He was just able to work through it.

Why did the thousands of Kryptonian colonies die out within the 30 or so years it took for superman to mature?

Considering its stated that the Kryptonians knew about earth and the insane powers it would grant them, and also the fact that there is a race of people living there identical to Kryptonians in every way, didnt they reach out?

Why did Zod feel the need to remake current earth when with only a little bit of training his people would have no issue with the atmosphere and possess incredible powers?

>Why did the thousands of Kryptonian colonies die out within the 30 or so years it took for superman to mature?
I'm not saying it was Brainiac, but it was Brainiac.

The colonies were abandoned long before the events of the movie. Jar-El even said how stupid it was in his monologue to abandon them for the easier route of raping their planet's resources

They were almost out of fart gas filters.

>it took zod like an hour to adjust to earth
Zod literally screams to Supes about how he was bred to be a warrior and trained his whole life to hone his senses. Every other kryptonian would lose their shit just like Clark did in the school.

Clark didn't even lose his shit that bad, and the new gen Kryptoneons would have other Kryptonians telling them how to deal with it instead of hapless farmers

but Clarke didnt know what was happening, if that shit was explained properly, and they were guided through it,
It would be a small price to pay, for fucking Superman level powers

>Why did the thousands of Kryptonian colonies die out within the 30 or so years it took for superman to mature?

30 Earth years don't equal 30 Kryptonian years. The movie specifies this.

>Considering its stated that the Kryptonians knew about earth and the insane powers it would grant them, and also the fact that there is a race of people living there identical to Kryptonians in every way, didnt they reach out?

Jor-El didn't learn about Earth's radiation until he was finding a place to send his son.

>Why did Zod feel the need to remake current earth when with only a little bit of training his people would have no issue with the atmosphere and possess incredible powers?

Because the majority of "his people" were still only part of the Kryptonian codex, in order to bring them back, he had to destroy all pre-existing life on Earth. He wanted to recreate Krypton in his image, like any megalomaniac.

Zod didn't want God powers, he wanted things back the way they were. That's why he chimps out when Superman destroys his ship and the codex.

>The colonies were abandoned long before the events of the movie
Not true, Zod says and the movie shows them seeking out the colonies after Krypton implodes and they're freed. only to find them in ruin

Yeah they were in ruins because they were abandoned by Krypton.

>Considering its stated that the Kryptonians knew about earth and the insane powers it would grant them

W R O N G

At the beginning of the movie, Lara says to Mon-el "I have found a viable planet" then Mon-el, a scientist, looks at it then looks at the sun and says "it is a young star, his cells will drink its radiation." "He will be like a god to them" He was figuring it out as he was seeing the info.

>Zod will never be your father figure and you will never tag team Bruce Waynes arsehole

>30 Earth years don't equal 30 Kryptonian years. The movie specifies this.
So Kyrptonians age based on the time of the planet they're on and not their genetic make up?

>Jor-El didn't learn about Earth's radiation until he was finding a place to send his son.
He already knew the place, he doesnt look for it, he goes straight to it and says 'he'll be a god to them' how could he know this if they didnt already have logs on the planet?

>Because the majority of "his people" were still only part of the Kryptonian codex, in order to bring them back, he had to destroy all pre-existing life on Earth
Perfect example of a villain being evil for evils sake, poor writing, sad!

Joke's on your MoS superman breathes in Earth's rich atmosphere or some shit and that's where his powers come from. And then in BvS he goes back and regens in space because these movies have no idea what they're doing.

You're just too dumb to get it.

There wasn't a clear tax policy on the ship when it came to naturally birthing children. That hack Snyder never told us Zod's tax policy at all.

So of all the planets in the universe, and with limited time and soldiers literally charging the door, Russel Crowe manages to luck onto a planet harbouring life nigh on identical to his own.
I'm disappointed, just further evidence of lazy writing

>So Kyrptonians age based on the time of the planet they're on and not their genetic make up?

Yes. In the comics, Superman's rocket spent thousands of years hurtling through space before it landed in Kansas.

I don't know if Zod even thought about taxation due to being a career-soldier rather than a politician. His race was in a state of total war anyway so all resources went towards the campaign against Kal-El.

Eh, that's a good point. But i feel like zod wanted "Normal" kryptonians for the sake of normal kryptonians. As if superman was a disgrace to >muh krypton.

What about if he succeeds? Zod is a careful planner. He was going to lead the new Krypton. He would have to pay for that war eventually. Pretty sure Zod would have a clear tax policy.

He's still a career-general and would most likely bloat the military budget to the point where New Krypton would buckle under the weight of the military industrial complex.

>But i feel like zod wanted "Normal" kryptonians for the sake of normal kryptonians.

Pretty much. Jor-El even calls him out on it in the prologue. Zod wanted to rebuild Krypton, but with only the people he deemed worthy of sharing it with him. He also wanted to be its leader, hence his insurrection. God powers, while nice, would be meaningless because all of his resurrected friends would have the same powers.

Basically "Space Hitler."

No he didn't lose his powers. He wasn't used to the atmosphere and it fucked him up a little but he wakes up later with his powers back while still on the ship

>Joke's on your MoS superman breathes in Earth's rich atmosphere or some shit

It's all of it combined

>Why am I so different from them?
>Earth's sun is younger and brighter than Krypton's was. Your cells have drunk in its radiation, strengthening your muscles, your skin, your senses. Earth's gravity is weaker, yet its atmosphere is more nourishing

Why are so many of the complaints from people who can't follow a simple plot?

Faora and the other dude already had super powers even in their suits, like Zod did. They would have adjusted fine.

Zack is just a Hack, like usual.

the only person able to get clark through it was his mum and her love

as faora said, they eliminated weak emotions like love on krypton

the kryptonians would all just spaz out and die at age 8

See

bbbbig benis

Snyder-kun didn't write the script, don't blame that on him.

>power of love
Really, Zack?

Welcome to the oldest trope in movie history.

Because this movie has plotholes as bad as Prometheus?

Because David S. Goyer needs to die in a fire?

>it's old and were used by other shitty movies without any sense - must be good

>Because this movie has plotholes as bad as Prometheus?

Such as?

No one said it's good, but faulting one movie for something that thousands of other movies have done before is just silly.

>b-but other movies are shitty too, why blame them for making another one?
Maybe because they have a fucking Superman in it and should put much more effort in the movie about iconic character?

It's still a fault no matter how many others have done it.

Superman 3, 4 and Returns would like to have a word with you.

Daily reminder that Zod did nothing wrong. He was 100% genetically designed to be the way he has. If the kryptonains didnt want a military uprising they shouldn't have put their citizens in such danger that their military leader (who is programmed to do what is best for krypton) had to stop them. Zod did NOTHING wrong and supes dad is a fucking pathetic pencil pushing cuckold

The problem OP said.

Amy Adams being everywhere eventhough the movie doesn't need her.

His dad being a psychopath

1) The biggest life-lesson he is trying to inculcate his son with at every opportunity he gets is to never trust humans

2) When presented with a choice between saving a bus-load of screaming friends from drowning versus protecting his secret identity from humans that cannot physically harm him, Jonathan would choose to let all his friends die in a melodic echo.

3) Jonathan wants to teach his son about restraint: this is why he needlessly marches into a tornado to save a family member that can be replaced for 100$. His wife becomes a lonely widow and his son an emotionally scarred wandering vagabond, but he will have learned a valuable lesson: his dad was fucked-up.

So I guess the question is: why was his dad like this?

Also, You can’t put glasses on Clark Kent. This is no longer the 1940s. There's HD smartphones everywhere. Clark Kent didn't even do major changes with his hair to hide his identity. Why didn't WB/DC bother trying to put more emphasis on Clark's secret identity life?

Speaking of which, Zod's ship landed besides the Kent farm that one time. That will raise more suspicions about the Kent family.

Also, why did Clark think it was a good idea to ruin that guy's truck when the trucker himself can identify Clark's face and then report the vandalism to the cops?

>mfw people blame Snyder for MoS, even though his direction was superb.
Goyer needs to be strung up.

>these movies are bad, therefore this other movie is not!
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On the surface, you're absolutely right. However, Zod was a product of Krypton's hubris and poisoned ideals. The Kryptonians were literally killing their own planet (while attempting to spread their ultimately negative influence onto other worlds), but too proud to do anything about it. Superman knew this, which is why he shouts "KRYPTON HAD ITS CHANCE" before trashing Zod's shit.

It really is just the glasses, isn't it?

>My comic book movie about space aliens who look exactly like humans and get superpowers from the sun requires me to accept coincidences as fact

Zod starts making moves, Crowe decides to get Supes out immediately, they find a viable planet, and it happens to be Earth. Sure, he got lucky, but so what? It's Superman, not Pretty Average Seeming Just Don't Give Him a DNA Test Man

This. Dawn of the Dead proves that with a decent script, Snyder can be untouchable. He just gets saddled with bullshit 16th-draft scripts that get stapled to him by retarded producers.

>Superman has to take nerd training

Life is unfair.

That's ridiculous. How can you possibly have a society where everyone needs years of intensive coaching to cope with their Godlike abilities? Even if everyone were able to master the discipline and groundedness to handle the overstimulation, how could you possibly govern a society where everyone can fly, hurl boulders, fire lasers out of their eyes, and disable each other with the merest exposure to anything from their home planet?

Better to just kill the humans and rebuild Krypton.

This nigga gets it. Martha Kent even tells Clark about how often he almost died as a baby in his sleep just by breathing Earth's air. There's no way Zod could have realistically brought back all of Krypton's citizens in Earth's atmosphere with a 100% survival rate.

>wasn't even aware of all this happening and had no influence or role on krypton
>thinks he has the right to make that decision

Why is superman such an arrogant self righteous cunt? Oh it's because his arrogant fucking father thought he was so much better than everyone else so he had a natural born baby and passed on his smug genes to him. Zod did nothing wrong and was led astray by krypton's self serving leaders. We could have made krypton great again under military rule

Actually, Supes is the one who brings up his mom helping hin honing his senses when he fucks up Zods suit.
Did you not even see the movie? They literally have a fucking scene of Clarks mom guiding him to calm his senses.

Man of Steel isnt THAT good

But jesus are the reasons people find to dislike retarded

These "plot holes" are explained in single sentences


maybe these movies are too smart for people

You dont know what plot hole means so how can anyone respond to you

I think it's that the majority of people want to see Superman pull kittens out of trees and fumble with his glasses while muttering "G-g-gosh, Lois!" that get buttblasted over MoS trying something different for once.

If he was feeling pain, they could have conveyed that better

>wasn't even aware of all this happening and had no influence or role on krypton

He mocked Krypton's rulers in open court, calling them weak and ineffective. That's why Zod staged a coup d'etat. He even spits on them after getting arrested.

>mfw Zod blows away that cunty kryptonian elder.
Loved the movie. Love Michael Shannon.

Michael Shannon took that trite dialogue and gave it some serious pathos. He doesn't get as much credit as he deserves.

I was talking about supes and his "krypton had its chance" line

Fair enough, but the whole "Zod did nothing wrong" meme is stale. The fact that you're an Earthling should tell you that Zod is not, and will never be, yo nigga.

>why was his dad like this?

Because he knew people would lose their collective shit the minute they found out he existed. Jonathan wanted Clark to be ready for the hatred and controversy towards his very existence. If you still don't get it, watch the final act ofMoS, then watch BvS. Then ask yourself this: "Would a young, naive, innocent Clark emotionally (or physically) survive any of this?"

Those guys at the oil rig sure did hate him.

Your point is non-existant.

He literally did nothing wrong. The council essentially killed all of krypton and refused to do anything to save it when it came to crunch time. It was Zods job to kill them for being traitors. He wanted to start krypton over with more focused eugenics but supes dad sent the only hope of that off with his illegally born son to somewhere on the other side of the universe. Zod was literally just doing his job but self righteous, self hating, guilt ridden cuckolds made it impossible for him so he had every right to be angry

>idolizes planet that destroyed itself
>wants to make another one
>100% ready to kill every living thing on earth to do so
>did nothing wrong

What's trumps ass taste like?

And to be fair, they also go out of their way to show how Clark would deal with it. He reads Plato, he takes shit jobs, he knows what it is to be someone who ISN'T Superman before he ever puts on the suit. Hell, the fat ginger who bullies him as a kid ends up becoming his friend after the football team shoves him into that fence. Matter of fact, now that I think about it, every time someone in the movie gives Clark shit, there's someone there who's also nice to him. Kinda shows why Superman wants to give humanity a chance - we can be fucking shit, but we can also be fucking cool.

The oil rig guys gave him shit because he was a n00b. "Greenhorn" is not a term of endearment. Hell, a random dude pulls him out of harm's way on the ship because Clark didn't realize that he was in "harm's way" - the audience knows that hundreds of pounds of iron landing on Clark won't hurt him, but his crew doesn't. To them, he's just an idiot who can't pay attention.

I'm saying the people he saved who saw his face didn't get on national television saying he was literally Satan.

>To them, he's just an idiot who can't pay attention.
I think you may have slightly missed the point here.

Because Snyder is a fucking hack.

How so?

>blaming Zack Snyder, one of the few working directors with a strong distinct visual style for the story that David Goyer, a guy who made his start writing a Jean-Claude Van Damme movies wrote

Learn 2 Hollywood, m8.

Superman. Super human. Saving people. Do people hate him after he saved them? That's the point here, not what happened while they thought he was still just some dude.

Jean-Claude Van Damme movies are fucking abysmal, what the fuck are you smoking.

In BvS, the BILLIONS of people on Earth who were saved after the events of MoS were divided down the middle. It sucks that Metropolis got wrecked, sure. No one's arguing that. But if 5,000 people had to die (through no fault of Superman's own) in order to save 7 billion? It's a shitty situation, but overall Superman did the right thing.

Zack is responsible for being whore who doesn't give a shit about script since it will bring him money. But I assume he is just a spineless cuck who was forced by his cunt wife

>idolizes planet that destroyed itself

He very clearly placed the blame (and rightfully so) on the council that he said wasted too much time talking and not doing

He said he would start again with better bloodlines, presumably ones that aren't focused on pointless philosophical debate

If supes dad didn't sabotage the uprising that was supposed to be happening by law, he would have found the nearest suitable planet to terraform. Its only because supes dad decided to be a fuckwit and send away the entire kryptonian genome to an alien planet that zod chose earth. He spent too long in space jail and couldn't waste any more time (like the council) rebuilding his people.

You are literally a cuck with a beta mindset if you believe he was wrong for trying to rebuild his world after dog shit politicians and heathens destroyed and sat idly by while it happened

Reading comprehension. David Goyer wrote Death Warrant, a trainwreck of a movie starring a visibly coked-out JCVD. David Goyer also wrote Man of Steel. People who blame Man of Steel's script on Zack Snyder, such as are the real idiots here.

It's like getting angry at a painter because the canvas is rough around the edges.

Yeah, but if Superman hadn't been on Earth in the first place, Zod never would have come. Keep in mind that your average Earthling doesn't know the whole backstory; they just know that Zod came looking for an alien hiding out on Earth and was ready to kill everybody. Nice of Superman to save the planet, but it never would have been in danger if he hadn't been around.

You're also blaming a baby for unwittingly ending up where it did.

>were saved
From danger bringed by Superman himself. Top lel.

One of the most horrible things which Hack did to Superman - he made him lcruse to the planet. Superman is literally responsible for every bad thing happened in MoS and BvS