You will never convince me that you'd hold the same beliefs about the Second Amendment if you lost a loved one in a...

You will never convince me that you'd hold the same beliefs about the Second Amendment if you lost a loved one in a shooting. Especially a child.

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You’d change your mind about the evils of motorized vehicles if you lost a love one in a car accident, especially a youngling.

Fuck off, faggot.

Because you can't get a job without a gun to get you to work right? False equivalency fallacy. Moving on

You retard. A car is designed for transporting people. Vehicle deaths are a sad byproduct of the process.

Guns are designed for applying deadly stopping force. When something designed for deadly stopping force kills a person... wait, why am I even trying to explain this to a brainlet?

No its not, cars kill more than guns and you can defend urself with things other than a gun, but like getting to work in a car, its the most practically and efficient.

but user
then i'd literally have one less thing to lose to guns
if anything, I'd be MORE in favor of them

A gun is designed for hunting and self-defense. Mass shooting deaths are a sad byproduct of the process.

And what is that stopping force used for? Could it be oh idk, defending yourself and/or family? You realize how many lives are saved by guns right? More than how many die by then.

And lets not forget who’s doing the most homicide with firearms, bunch of niglets with illegal purchased handguns that get away with it cuz the cops dont wanna come off as racist while gangs murder each other and civilians.

You're right, I would feel far more strongly in my support of it and would arm myself to the teeth, either in revenge or in defence.

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Chiraque doesn't exist to the liberal mind. Reality barely does.

You're wrong because you use the words practically and efficiency. A car is a necessity. Very few people live close enough to work to bike there. Especially in winter time. And it's not like I'm going to dignify that conservative fanfiction of needing to defend yourself with a gun. You don't know anyone who's needed to and you never will

This is a conservative fanfiction. It's been proven that a gun in the home is more likely to kill someone who lives in the home. You can put your head in the sand and pretend you didn't read that, but it doesn't make it less true

And a gun is a necessity for self defense, because that is the standard weapon used.
If swords were the primary means of offense, people would have them for self defense as well and what do you know, back them England band civilian ownership of swords as well.

Also fuck you, my friend in Australia nearly fired and lost 3 fingers, because of a home invasion/robbery.
Also also, you dont live or work in a bad part of town do you? You’re also probably not a woman who has closed a store by herself in said bad part of town.

Why do you hate women so much that you actively want them assaulted and raped by thugs?

The "gun in the home" fallacy is from a 1986 study by Gary Kleck. In order to produce the anti-gun statistics that he wanted to lie to people with he sampled only one tiny county in Washington state and included suicides in the totals. This information is easily available online and yet you chose to argue with your feelings instead of doing any research. Sad.

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Yeah you're not a reliable source of information. According to you everyone needs a gun and you're going to die without one. That's just not how reality works or pans out. Not everything's a fucking movie

You realize guns save roughly 100% more lives than they take?? Its roughly 300,000 lives saved annually vs 150,000 taken.
You can pretend you didnt read that, but its doesnt make it any less true, you retarded faggot.

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I know you don't actually believe that. A gun in the home is more often used for killing someone in the home.

You can throw numbers around like you got them from somewhere but we both know you just made that shit up on the spot

you're right, i would hold the same beliefs. because i already support universal background checks and mandatory safety training.

Obviously.
Conservative rights are always selfish rights.
It doesn't matter until it effects them personally.

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Most people that lose a child in a shooting double down on the second amendment faggot, because it's literally the only amendment that would have saved their child

Oh yea, just give up our freedom because you lost a loved one. How fucking weak and pathetic you must be.
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Probably just another lying jew.

But it didn't? And on top of that it killed them Are you some sort of idiot?

When did i say “eveyone needs a gun?” But as long as the criminals have then ILLEGALLY and the govt does nothing about it while trying to restrict gun and removed gun ownership for LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, im gonna say law abiding citizens should definitely have them since the cops clearly arent doing their job, so to expect them to stop a criminal with a gun from killing you, is just as pointless as trying to talk sense into NPC faggot like you.

>antisemitism
Disregarded

.223 / 5.56x45 (NATO), what AR-15's shoot, and the rifle that seems to trigger liberals the most, is actually designed to wound. The logic is that a wounded soldier will then require his comrades to come to his assistance, rendering even more enemies combat ineffective. unfortunately, this proved untrue against die-hard hajis, who have no regard for life as they believe they are their wounded comrades are going to paradise anyway. as such, many US soldiers would commandeer enemy AK-47s which fire 7.62mm, capable of downing aircraft with sufficient volume and placement

Youre living in a fantasy world. You really are. I know you're never going to use a gun to defend yourself.

Oh sure, we all know that. So that means it's really easy to prove statistically, right? Yet... you're not providing any evidence. You're being proven wrong over and over using real evidence, but you don't offer any. If you do it will be a Google result from "iamalwaysright.com" or Vox - but alas, I repeat myself.

>next you'll say "just look it up online"

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>it's literally the only amendment that would have saved their child

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>I play a lot of video games

U rite, turns out it was old, its way more than 100% google.com/amp/s/fee.org/articles/guns-prevent-thousands-of-crimes-every-day-research-show//amp

The gun homicides are the 10ks while crimes prevented are in the 400ks.
Even if you all up all gun related crimes its still vastly outweighed by lives saved and crimes prevented.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

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Victims of a crime find it incredibly difficult to be objective. Objectivity is required for good policy decisions.
I'm not even bothered about "gun rights" but the last person whose opinion I'd consider in the debate is some distraught family member.

im gonna kms and your gonna watch

Well my belief is that it should be repealed so yeah I would

The fuck is that supposed to mean? Are you suggesting id use it for murder? The fuck is wrong with you? Go see a psychologist so they can at it to your medical records, that way you’ll never pass the background check and wont be allowed to legally purchase a firearm, cuz you definitely shouldnt own one

I'm pro-gun and a 2A diehard, but this comment is the stupidest, meme-tier, Vietnam-era bullshit disinformation that has ever been repeated online or off.

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ITT - a bunch of retarded Americans and muh guns

Do you even have a license to be on here? Pretty sure this is an illegal hate site.
Someone report this potential terrorist to the authorities immediately.

Is that really what you got out of what I said? That I implied you would go murder someone? What's wrong with you

US population is approximately 360 million in 2009, UK population about 65 million. So US has about 7 times more people. US homicides by firearm in 2009, approximately 12000, UK had 39. US had 307 times more murders with guns. Adjusting for population that's still 44 times more. You guys are fucked in the head.

You literally said i wouldnt use a gun for self defense, thats its primary purpose for me, so what exactly do you think i WOULD use it for if not self defense???

Looking like cool dude

Literally fucking nothing because you're not going to find yourself in a situation that warrants it

You’re fucked in the head, compare your overall homicide rate, not the gun deaths. You’re homicide and deadly assault rates are still quite high, especially stabbings for some bizarre reason that no one can place their finger on.

He said you're never going to fire that weapon at a person you dunce. He said no one's ever going to threaten your life so badly that you'll have to kill them, you absolute fool.

Id rather have one and not need it, than need one and not have it. Its called being prepared. Do you even boy scouts? Oh wait of course not, they dont allow NPCs.

My grandfather was shot in the head by a nigger. I believe in the right to own and carry firearms. However, my beliefs on niggers have changed a bit. Send them the fuck back.

OK, in 2009 we had 648 murders. Which, adjusted for population is the equivalent of 4536 of your American homicides. Which is still 7500 less than your total gun murders. Our homicide rate is very small compared to yours, guns or not.

>you're never going to be in situation where you need a gun

>guns are killing kids left and right

Pick a fucking side. Are there too many guns? or are there so few that nobody will ever engage someone with one?

How uniformed and untrained are you that you’d think itd come down to not just shooting someone but killing them on top of that?
Look at the statistics, most of the 400k life threatening crimes prevented with a gun, do not actually involve the gun being fired.
Its a deterrent.

I only want justice, and there is no justice in punishing everyone else for crime they did not commit, so yeah I will still believe in the right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of their own

Shot in the head huh? Doesn't sound like firearm would have helped out your grandfather

Still doesn't make sense. If they're going to mug you just give them your wallet and don't be some wannabe action hero. And if they were going to kill you instead you wouldn't have any warning they would just kill you.

And who do you think are committing those murders here? Do you think its law abiding gun owners? Or literally criminals using illegal, unregistered firearms without a permit nor conceal/open carry license?
But no, lets get rid of all of them, if no one has them, no one can use them right? Oh wait but didnt you say nearly 40 people died from guns? Even after you got rid of them all? Well that cant right, must just be racism.

If I lost a loved one in a shooting I would no longer believe that an armed populace is a deterrent to tyranny?

And if theyre going to rape me? Guess i gotta just take it right? Should i have their rape baby too? Or is just getting raped enough?
Why do you hate women so much? Why do you actively want women robbed and raped by thugs at gun point?

The man is right on the money faggot. If your house was being robbed you would wish you had a gun.

Fucking dumbass. Illegal unregistered firearms are far easier to come by in a country where you worship the damn things. We have so few because it's super hard to get them here, though clearly not impossible. Unfortunately you guys love guns so much and have so many of them now that it would be nigh on impossible to reverse the situation. Plus you guys do love your rights and your freedoms.

You will never convince me that this post wasn't made to get guaranteed replies and foster constructive dialogue.

Not all guns are designed to kill
olympic.org/shooting

Depends on if they died in a mass shooting, if they were alone and committed suicide, or if they were killed trying to rob a place.

I live in a country where it's illegal to have a firearm yet I still have one. Because guess what fag. If I get assaulted I'll still rather take prison than death. To get an illegal firearm is like buying soda if you know where to look it's retardedly easy.

>I know you're never going to use a gun to defend yourself.
I hope not, but I still carry one everyday and keep one in the glovebox just in case

Yeah, so considering the context you just laid it, logically speaking, removing guns from LAW ABIDING CITIZENS would be a ridiculous notion since the criminals with still have access to a plethora of illegally acquired firearms, yes? If you agree with that logical through line, you’re probably a white supremacist.

Dont forget non-lethal rounds, a girl in HK lost her eye from being shot with a non lethal round.

They dont have that many freedoms really. They just talk about the concept a lot.

They cant generally go for walks in the woods, because those are "private", and people dont even have the freedom of health because they lack universal healthcare.

According to Exodus or Deuteronomy?

A lot better than the effect of a similar shot with a lethal round, I assume.

I'll give up my guns right after all the criminals and gang bangers give up theirs

.... freedom of health is not a thing. You could argue its tied into the freedom of Life, Liberty and The Pursuit of Happiness, but you specifically said Freedom of Health, which sounds something a Eurocuck would come up with, because they have no freedoms and the concept in completely foreign to them.

Though you’re not wrong, most of are freedoms are illusions now, which is why we’re holding onto the few tangible ones we have left.

Which one of the bill of rights grants "freedom of health"?

did you just unironically equate freedom with abolishing private property?

Socialism in a nutshell

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Even after all that you shouldn’t give up your basic human right to defense. It’s not about criminals, it’s about self preservation. Whether it be a real bear in the woods, or the sharp claws of our government or another. We all have a right to own the best tool for self defense available. All weapons laws are infringements against us.

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I've been shot. I carry now.

Your emotional need to LARP has been acknowledged

This place used to have much better bait.

Agreed. after all what you just posted is very bad babe

Over seas don’t count fag.