How?

John Jones
John Jones

a religion originated in India
with an Indian as the main figure in it
mostly spread among the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and other gooks, while not popular in India at all

How?

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_8cyeL0GeY
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Tandava_Stotram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku3lADtR22Y
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharatendu_Harishchandra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unakoti
Jeremiah Morris
Jeremiah Morris

I think becuase indian have already their religion (Hinduism)

Kevin Butler
Kevin Butler

It's like Christianity to Europe

Eli Bailey
Eli Bailey

while not popular in India at all
Literally everything he said is written in Bhagvad Gita and the four Vedas.
He just compiled everything with non-violence in it and made a new religion,

Andrew Thomas
Andrew Thomas

In what ritual the hindu smoke Ganja (Marijuana)?

Levi Hernandez
Levi Hernandez

Maha Shiv Ratri
The Great Night of Shiva

Jayden Howard
Jayden Howard

In shiva ratri[The day when lord shiva was born]

Easton Bell
Easton Bell

herro mountain chink

James Martin
James Martin

But this is accepted by the indian and nepalese's law in the normal days?

Connor Perry
Connor Perry

Hell dhoti

Landon Green
Landon Green

lol Ganja is banned in India , idk about Nepal .
The police can't stop us , if they do , riots will break out.

Hudson Anderson
Hudson Anderson

No only in that day and only in certain places such as Pashupati temple

Eli Myers
Eli Myers

mein dhoti nahi pehenta, momo.

Kayden Williams
Kayden Williams

it's a slang term used by us for indians

Eli Carter
Eli Carter

yeah , I went to Pashupati Temple . Really liked the sign which says "Non-Hindus aren't allowed here"

Henry Jenkins
Henry Jenkins

Hinduism is superior to Gautama's nihilistic, and defeatist doctrine.
t. hinduboo

Austin Morales
Austin Morales

R A R E

Isaac Jones
Isaac Jones

Only in sign they wouldn't even care if you go full on wearing black veil there.It just there for being there

Jose Long
Jose Long

In the four vedas
wrong - buddha explictly rejects a lot of the higher notions in the upanishads of things (if we take these to be the philsophical side of the vedas) like brahman and atma and all this sort of stuff.

buddha also rejected the yagna culture of the 4 vedas
in the gita
semi right.

the gita was probably written after him though, and vaishnavas and shaivites like adi shankar just adopted alot of his teachings about stuff like non-materialism and temporarality of life whilst rejecting the anti-god stuff.

he's not popular in india because buddhism is a layer over folk religion. in china its a layer over chinese folk religion, in india it was a layer over pajeet folk religion aka folk hinduism.

so most laypeople had the exact same religion/beliefs when buddhism was popular and when it became less popular - except for monks/brahmins. In India hindu philosophers won the debate with buddhists and jains so hindus won more political patronage. Hindus also just adopted a lot of buddhism and even revere buddha in their own system (mahayana and vajrayana buddhism also adopted a lot of hindu shit - hence why in nepal the lines between buddhism and hinduism are particularly blurry). Longer-extant buddhist areas got more Islamified than hindu ones (sindh, bengal, north-western punjab).

Luis Gutierrez
Luis Gutierrez

They are not rare here.

Joseph Edwards
Joseph Edwards

I'm the only one posting here in int so he*

Luke Collins
Luke Collins

"Non-Hindus aren't allowed here"
Fucking hate that shit.
Just show your goddamn temples to the world. Show your architectural accomplishments and maybe you'll get someone interested in the faith itself as well.

William Murphy
William Murphy

'll get someone interested in the faith itself as well.

non-pajeets technically can't become hindus according to many scriptures. though many hindu groups ignore that

Benjamin Reed
Benjamin Reed

You're definetely not the only posting here, i see your flag quite a lot.

Samuel Foster
Samuel Foster

Buddhaism predates Hinduism

Ayden Diaz
Ayden Diaz

the gita was probably written after him though
Wrong , Wrong and Wrong.
Gita was written in Dwapar Yuga nad Buddha was born in Kalyuga .

Hindus also just adopted a lot of buddhism
Now you are making shit up . The Rig Veda was there before Buddha.
Here is a video about Ashtavakra . A man who was cripple but has immense knowledge about Life and Prapancha . He was mentioned in Ramayan and Mahabharat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_8cyeL0GeY
Here is something about him : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra

Brody Mitchell
Brody Mitchell

Like i said slav it just there for being there.We dont restrict anyone who enters there.We dont care if you're white or black or any other religion entering the temple.Just dont enter temple with your shoes.Wearing shoes or sandals inside temple is a big no no

Daniel Bell
Daniel Bell

false.
buddhism is from 500bc.
hinduism in its earliest forms is from 2000~bc

the earliest forms of hinduism are still extant in modern hinduism.

Christian Nelson
Christian Nelson

Indian and Nepalese ITT, do you speak any Sanskrit?

Isaiah Cox
Isaiah Cox

I'm only one.You can easily notice me desu

Jason Barnes
Jason Barnes

Nah , wrong .
Bhuddha was born in Kalyuga and Hinduism is there since Satyuga.

Don't worry thats only in Pashupati Nath Mandir.

Isaiah Moore
Isaiah Moore

Ancient Vedic religion isn't Hinduism.

Brandon Davis
Brandon Davis

True
Religion originated in jewland
with a jew as the main figure
mostly spread in Europe while not popular among jews

Thomas Brown
Thomas Brown

Actually, most of the Buddhist and Jain philosophy comes from Samkhya, which itself is kind of ancestral to most of the old Indo-Aryan philosophy.

Ian Roberts
Ian Roberts

I remember Shiv Tandava Stotra , because my mum made me learn it.
it was written by a demon(Ravana) to please Lord Shiva , and Lord Shiva was super pleased at him.

Daniel Perry
Daniel Perry

No but it is written in same script

Jonathan Ward
Jonathan Ward

Nope, you are thinking about the vedic religion. The loose term "hinduism" generally refers to the Puranic doctrine which started to form some time in the last few centuries BCE.

Justin Wright
Justin Wright

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Tandava_Stotram
See the tab named "Ravana"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku3lADtR22Y

Gavin Perry
Gavin Perry

This.

Connor Carter
Connor Carter

not sure whom should i ask this but
are jaunpuris niggers among niggers?
gypsies come from the obviously nordic aryan state of india so im curious if theyre as chimpish back home
theyre dalits if it matters btw

Nicholas Turner
Nicholas Turner

Gita was written in Dwapar Yuga nad Buddha was born in Kalyuga .
yeah dumbo i'm not talking about muh mythical ages where the mahabharat took place 100 thousand years ago, but according to actual historical dates. the gita was probably written somewhere between 500bc-200bc.

making shit up
No I'm not. Hinduism has been constantly evolving.
Rig Vedic hinduism with endless yajnas to indra and rudra is quite very different to modern advaita vedantism - the latter has received several doses of new ideas into it fro mthinkers along the line.

many of these thinkers were adopting ideas or making arguments against ideas. including the ideas of the jains and buddhists. Ashtavakra prboably was a contemporary of buddha if not someone who came along later.

if ashtavakra did actually exist, and was not just an author's creation, then he may have very well been trying to counter buddhist ideas by following a similar line of argument but ending up at brahman-atma instead of anatman nirvana.

hindu myths are not actually history, pajeet. they're myths, they are representative of things that may have happened in some way, but do you think that krishna's speech on kurukshetra was really his speech being seen and read by sanjay (which then was written down by vyas)? or someone was composing a story, and someone thought of a good philosophical argument - attributes it to God and also tackles buddhist ideas indirectly through it. - the latter is more likely.

Blake Bennett
Blake Bennett

Is your native language a descendant of Sanskrit?

Jeremiah Cooper
Jeremiah Cooper

So pajeet do you know when kali yuga ends?Do they describe the end of it anywhere?

Gabriel Mitchell
Gabriel Mitchell

Yes

Josiah Jackson
Josiah Jackson

Because it's centered around monasteries while Hinduism is ingrained into the very culture. Islamic conquers destroyed the monasteries, wiping out the former, but nothing short of complete genocide can remove the latter.

Jayden Hill
Jayden Hill

The Gita came after Siddhartha.

Ian Long
Ian Long

Because offshoot.....stupid Sergey.

Easton Perry
Easton Perry

Hindus still use the vedic scriptures and still follow rituals from them. there are brahmins who still go mostly by the vedas.

the vedas also come with 100s of commentaries and derivative texts which means just going by the 4 vedas is not strict. also the later vedas like the atharvaved are more similar, whereas the earlier ones like the rig and the sama are more distant.

Samkhya definitely inspired them, but i think buddha's innovations and to a different extent mahaviras were taken into hinduism.

for example some hindus went from animal sacrfiicers to strict vegetarians who are pacifcist, it is likely that some attempt to emulate or rival arguments put for by mahavira could have played a role in this.

Noah Green
Noah Green

Our native language didn't exist before 200 years . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharatendu_Harishchandra , this man took 5-6 languages which was spoken in North India and mixed them together . The script is Sanskrit btw (Devnagri)

Christopher Miller
Christopher Miller

Only some of them do so. And overall, the Puranic doctrines have far overshadowed pre Puranic and vedic doctrines (including some slightly non-Vedic doctrines such as Samkhya and Mimamsa).

Anthony Fisher
Anthony Fisher

Are chutiya hai kya ye.
ye padh

Jackson Williams
Jackson Williams

yeah i'd say the puranic literature is much more relevant to the average 'du. but i wouldn't say that its a different religion as such. its just a more fluid religion.

Noah Long
Noah Long

haha

Blake Rivera
Blake Rivera

pajeet.
hinduism is older through the vedas.
but most of hinduism is newer through the purans, mahabharata etc.

Lincoln Johnson
Lincoln Johnson

animal sacrfiicers to strict vegetarians
I am a pure vegetarian and I was a part of goat sacrifice in Kolkata . No one eats them.

Mason Garcia
Mason Garcia

Buddhism also was deprived of state sponsorships just before the islamic invasions, and was dying as a sect, which it recieved during Ashoka's rein, and no more missionaries were travelling east and south. Although buddhist ideas were already ingrained in the main/popular belief. Chinese scholars who came here mostly argued with gurus in favor of buddhism. Also buddism was not very popular ever in rajputana, as they classed themselves as warriors.

Luke Thomas
Luke Thomas

Pussy pajeet.

Logan Edwards
Logan Edwards

many vaishnavas wouldn't ever get involved in animal sacrifice lad.

Luke Perez
Luke Perez

this

Josiah Clark
Josiah Clark

but I was involved , the scene was horrifying but I felt contenment after the ritual was over.

Sebastian Ramirez
Sebastian Ramirez

The vedic religion certainly has much less in common with the puranic religion when compared to the similarities among the abrahamic religions. If the abrahamic religions are considered to be separate due to the number and magnitude of their differences, then there is no reason to push vedic and puranic religion in one composite religion.

Charles Johnson
Charles Johnson

the Gita has existed as long as Hinduism has

Except no. The Gita was written, or at least at some point adapted, to tackle Buddhism theologically.

Aaron Robinson
Aaron Robinson

Not going to eat meat lad , I am a Brahmin.

Oliver Wilson
Oliver Wilson

Pajeets of Sup Forums.

Is Hampi and Jaipur worth visiting? They're archaeologically fascinating and I heard good things but I'm worried it'll be too dirty.

Wyatt Wilson
Wyatt Wilson

That's kind of like saying that pre-Buddhism Japan was Shinto.

Hinduism is an evolution of Vedicism, but not the same thing, just like how Vedicism was an evolution of the PIE religion, that branched off into many other faiths.

Christopher Davis
Christopher Davis

What is stopping you?

Robert Sullivan
Robert Sullivan

What is that language? Hindi?

Owen Davis
Owen Davis

gonna go to narak for that my man.

ahimsa paramo dharma.
compared to abrahamic religions/vedicism is different
hinduism compares differently though.

a pacificst strict-veggie singing and dancing bald vaishnava with a choltli is almost certainly belonging to a different religion a kali maa human sacrificing thuggee - sure. but they will call themselves as belonging to the same religion despite believing opposite things.

to say that everything from vaishnavism to weird tantric shaktism to folk animist hinduism - are still the same religion - but for some reason the common thing like they like to point to (the vedas) is a different religion strikes me as a bit strange.

either there is no hinduism but just a nebulous blob full of different religions or there is one religion in many forms.

Anthony Stewart
Anthony Stewart

You going to just visit a place because it shows dicks and tits?
Visit this instead . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unakoti

Tyler Clark
Tyler Clark

Also, to add, there was no concept of 'hindu' in those times. Buddha was considered one of the gurus, and his teachings were subject to criticism and debate, like any other teacher before him. Buddhism got popular because it was sponsored by Ashoka, which was a pretty big thing as he controlled most of India at that time, and could afford to send missionaries in every corner of the world.

Andrew Stewart
Andrew Stewart

I would say that the term Hinduism should not be used as a religion, but as a category, like "Abrahamism". There are many complex ideas too different to be a part of the same doctrine or religion. But they can certainly be grouped as a related clusters of religions/doctrines and philosophies.

Adam Hall
Adam Hall

either there is no hinduism but just a nebulous blob full of different religions or there is one religion in many forms.

I gravitate towards that idea ɖeʂu

Jeremiah Parker
Jeremiah Parker

yes.

Yes I am going to narak , but not for being involved that ritual. There was a reason for me being involved , I can't tell you sadly.

Aaron Long
Aaron Long

Jaipur is great. Its full of forts and stories.

Liam Russell
Liam Russell

Nothing.

Angel Johnson
Angel Johnson

lol u srs m8? The Vedas are the oldest religious text by a mile. They make your Torah look like modern space magic.

Justin Phillips
Justin Phillips

there is one religion in many forms.
I second this.

Benjamin Miller
Benjamin Miller

This.
Even in buddhist sri lanka they still revere murugan and vishnu. In thailand brahmin rituals are still undertaken by brahmins and the royals seem to be more involved in hindu stuff.

That's fine by me - though its difficult to then speak about hinduism as something separate from sikhism, jainism and buddhism because they all will fall under the broad hindu umbrella unless you go by 'whether they classify themselves as hindus' (though hare krishnas won't be included as hindus either then). but then it doesn't make sense to say hinduism is newer than buddhism. even pretty modern ideas like modern day vaishnavism probably route back to older forms of worship for vishnu or the myth of krishna that probably predate buddha.

It would be like saying early christians before the trinity idea, cannot also be called christians as most christians today believe in the trinity.

Gabriel Young
Gabriel Young

hat behen ke lode , mein nahi khaunga meat , chahe tu jitna mujhe force karle.

Adrian Bennett
Adrian Bennett

Then good for you pajeet i just hope you won't turn to vegan meme

Luke Jenkins
Luke Jenkins

'hat behen ke lode' Seriously though what the fuck does this even mean?

Jack Parker
Jack Parker

Vedas
Texts

Hunter Jackson
Hunter Jackson

I am not a vegan , I am a vegetarian .
Sister's Dick

Gavin Perez
Gavin Perez

No you retard. I'm obviously going for the city. The tits is just a plus.

Where specifically? How clean is it? Is it dangerous?

Xavier Roberts
Xavier Roberts

Sister's Dick
WTF??

Joshua Diaz
Joshua Diaz

At this point the term ''Hinduism'' is more nationalistic than religious.

Nathan Bell
Nathan Bell

Only in india

Robert Cook
Robert Cook

CURRIED

Isaiah Garcia
Isaiah Garcia

It would be like saying early christians before the trinity idea, cannot also be called christians as most christians today believe in the trinity.
what the fuck

Austin Brooks
Austin Brooks

Everywhere. Its not very clean but cleaner than Delhi I think.
But the outskirts are full of slums.

Henry Torres
Henry Torres

in very very old times the Vedas were transmitted from one man to another with mouth .Then after some time when Brahmins began to forget them (because they were turning into beta faggots), they were written down for the sake of Hinduism.

Isn't that apply to your country too?

No you retard. I'm obviously going for the city
Don't bring your girlfriend there , and be safe.

Christopher Brown
Christopher Brown

i mean hindus who are hindus at least nominally accept the authority of the vedas call it 'the eternal faith' not hinduism.

the problem with accepting the authorities of the vedas even nominally is that some hindus don't even nominally accept the vedas but will still be call themselves hindus of some proportion - and nominally sikhism, jainism and buddhism have things which could be interpreted as at least a partial-acceptance of them (though most wouldn't agree with that)
council of nicea and all that

Caleb Foster
Caleb Foster

Is the term even used outside of India?

Logan Bell
Logan Bell

chut ke pani

David Long
David Long

indonesia, nepal. (in countries where the people calling themselves hindu don't feel sort of indian)

Ian Lewis
Ian Lewis

you think that the christians prior to the nicaea did not believe in the trinity?

Adrian Edwards
Adrian Edwards

I dont know india is very right leaning country there's that

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

There are hindus in Indonesia?

Brayden Brooks
Brayden Brooks

probably.

Jonathan Allen
Jonathan Allen

Yes bali

Adam White
Adam White

oh boy

Ethan Foster
Ethan Foster

in bali (and eastern java and i think lombok) they have 'indigenous' hindus.

same goes for most of south east asia at least historically.

Carter Bailey
Carter Bailey

Is Indian buddhism different from Zen buddhism? I've been visiting a Zen temple for some time, and began getting curious about other sects.

Jordan Martin
Jordan Martin

just a few months ago wwhen there was Diwali , Professional artist from Indonesia came here to perform Ramayan.

Yes they were professionals in performing Ramayana.

PS:The king of Thailand is a descendant of Kush (Son of Ram)

Easton Long
Easton Long

It's an ethnic religion even more so than Judaism. It's like Shinto - you can't convert to that. You're Japanese or you're not.

Ayden Kelly
Ayden Kelly

I'm planning on going by myself but I see a lot of pictures of female tourists there (Hampi) so it can't be all bad I guess.

Lincoln Wright
Lincoln Wright

Don't blame us if anything happens to you.
Safe journey.

Christopher Long
Christopher Long

Mahayana buddhism has a fuck load of hindu influences - in fact mahayana buddhists have so much appended onto their canon, I don't think the actual historical pali buddha is even that relevant to them (besides obviously laying the foudnation for which all the other guys started writing their sutras on)

There are even a sect of buddhist monks in japan who do quasi vedic rituals and stuff (ironically stuff buddha preached against)

Gavin Mitchell
Gavin Mitchell

Well only the vedic religion was ethnic, and that too "aryan" ethnic. (Like some very early parts of vedas look like they are /pol. posts)

Leo Gomez
Leo Gomez

Isn't that apply to your country too?

Brandon Rivera
Brandon Rivera

SE Asian Buddhism is Theravada. Zen is an offshoot of Mahabharata with a heavy Taoist influence.

You can sort of think of Theravada/Mahabharata as Catholic/Protestant but not really. But basically Buddhism is split in two like Christianity and Islam.

Jackson Thompson
Jackson Thompson

what a muslim thing to say

Noah Ramirez
Noah Ramirez

Zen is japanese for Chan which Hindi/Sanskrit/Prakrit for Dhyan which means meditation/focus/mindfulness.
Dont know any more desu.
Maybe its just me but japanese folk seems to similar to the one here.

Aiden James
Aiden James

Like some very early parts of vedas look like they are /pol. posts
depends on the translation. the rig vedas are really complicated to translate and the g*rmans and british guys trying to translate it had an agenda with it.

Tyler Hughes
Tyler Hughes

How the fuck do you pajeets know about gita or whatever history of religion.Do you guys really read it or are you pulling it from wiki?

Dylan Cook
Dylan Cook

I have a small copy of Gita and it is translated in English.

Hudson Stewart
Hudson Stewart

read some scriptures and pulled it off wiki/academic papers.

its clear though. if you read the rig vedas for 5 minutes and then read the gita, they were clearly written with different ideas in midn.

Samuel Flores
Samuel Flores

I took a lot of religious studies courses in college, one of my favorite professors' academic speciality was Hindusim/Buddhism. I took four of his classes on those subjects. Well three and one on China.

Josiah Jones
Josiah Jones

mfw I’m actually Sergey irl

Ethan Morgan
Ethan Morgan

I always felt like from what they said, zen is critical on mahayana sects itself, Boeing focused a lot more on meditation than other sects like pure land which is mostly just praying.
Weirdly they do talk a lot about Tao and the nothing, is taoism conflictant with buddhism itself?

Andrew Parker
Andrew Parker

tfw no gringo ever got my name right even through its quite common

William Thomas
William Thomas

how
Partly due to Muslims being Muslims and partially due to pic related debating and btfo of buddhist scholars.

Dominic Hall
Dominic Hall

At least you'll find scant amount of buddhists in India. But you won't find a single (figure of speech) buddhist in Bihar, his State of origin

Easton James
Easton James

It's interesting. I'm not sure I believe in God (tips pagri) but the books are a good read nonetheless. Plus we had the abridged versions of mahabharat and ramayan as our Hindi course books in school. I don't have it all memorised though. I usually have to Google certain stuff.

Hunter Campbell
Hunter Campbell

João?

Chase Lopez
Chase Lopez

Is bihar the worst place in india?

Bentley James
Bentley James

Yes. Nuke Bihar, Jharkhand, UP and Chattisgarh.

Austin Hughes
Austin Hughes

Felipe

Landon Campbell
Landon Campbell

Religion originated in the Eastern provinces of the Roman Empire
with a Aeon who appeared to a Galilean Shepard as the main figure
mostly spread in Europe, Asia and Africa until Islam supplanted it in Asia and Africa
not popular among jews
ftfy

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