I completely forgot that I even watched this movie and I think that's a worse criticism than plot holes or poor writing...

I completely forgot that I even watched this movie and I think that's a worse criticism than plot holes or poor writing or anything else.

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Chemistry and dynamic between 18 year old ditzy blonde girl and 60 year old Craig was a big fat flop. And in this movie it was actually important to get it right since they love each other or something.

>the twist about Blofeld and Bond is almost exactly the same as Dr. Evil and Austin Powers

I really liked the intro scene, walking through the parade, through the hotel, out the window and across the rooftops. Thought it was neat.

>; the plot holes started to build up exponentially,

elaborate, i didnt notice any other than the super lame/contrived way to capture him

the problem is millenials have ruined bond among many other things with their obsession with timelines, universes, continuity, references, callbacks, canon, consistency and worst of all meta. All this drivel producers are forced to pander to

a millenial wouldnt be caught dead watching anything self contained or worst of all an episodic tv show

>can anyone explain to me what went wrong

The studio is trying to force-fit Craig's KinoBond into the campy Bond universe that nearly killed the franchise, where people shoot down fucking helicopters with a small caliber pistol, because NOT MUH BOND.

I feel the same thing OP.

I think it's because they where building up to a classical bond villain lair moment, but then blew it. Bond escaped torture that should have left him as a vegetable (FOR NO REASON!), then the enemy base just blows up out of nowhere. And then we get a long shit segment of bond in london.

It's like they made a good bond movie, and then decided to rewite the last 3th because they feared that the normies would not like a real bond movie!

It's one of the few Bond movies I've seen and yeah I thought it was a fucking mess too.

I only watched it because my film studies lecturer said it was great

The movie just had a weak 3rd act.

>the problem is millenials have ruined bond among many other things with their obsession with timelines, universes, continuity, references, callbacks, canon, consistency and worst of all meta. All this drivel producers are forced to pander to

Well said.

>fuck off james
>hurr im drunk but im never going to sleep with you
>fucking on a train in the next scene
>literally willing to die for each other towards the end of the movie

>3th

I was hyped as hell in the beginning. The intro scene is one of the best intros ever watched in a theater.

It's clear they wanted to camp Craig up but they kinda halfassed it because the plot was so weird. Blofield is Bond's fucking brother and everything happened because daddy issues what the fuck? Just stick with Evil Spectre Leader or do the Golden Eye. Also, the chemistry between Bond and woman was shit.

Yeah, that was awesome.

You've gotta give it this, the movie LOOKED incredible
>the scenes in that weird health place in Switzerland
>the scenes of them waiting in the desert
>Léa Seydoux's blue dress on the train
Wew

movie had really good aesthetics, just that mask is fucking amazing

>Bond escaped torture that should have left him as a vegetable (FOR NO REASON!)

I keep forgetting about that. It was a real "oh shit" moment because it actually happened, but then. . . nothing came of it. Did they do it wrong or were they just fucking with him or what?

I don't understand this great intro meme, it was as bland as it can be. Posts like this got me interested in that movie after the disappointment that was skyfall, but when I watched it recently with my brother it was a complete let down. We both stopped watching at around 1:00 -1:30 hour mark

IT WAS ME JAMES

>Did they do it wrong or were they just fucking with him or what?
They don't even try to explain it.

It will probably upset you further to know that my university literally played that scene in a lecture.

>We both stopped watching at around 1:00 -1:30 hour mark

Never gotten this meme.

I've watched movies so shit that I had to kick the VLC playback up to 1.5 - 2.0x to finish it, but never just stopped.

look at it like this : you watch a movie not because you want to see actor repeat a script in a studio with various props designed to create the illusion of special effects. You watch the movie for the illusion itself, for the imaginary world and story the director and his team is trying to convey to you through the movie. If the magic doesn't happen and you just see poor script, poor dialogue, poor acting, poor choreography in every scene then there ceases to be a point in watching it in my opinion

In the theater the intro looked and sounded great. Now that I watched it on youtube it was just ok. Sounds are really important in setting the mood.

I have a soft spot for camp Bond and B-movies so Spectre was ok for me. On the other hand Blofield was pretty shitty (vs. Mads f.e.x) but on the other he was great (the whole movie was upping itself constantly "oh traditional car vs. airplane standoff?" oh Blofeld is Bonds brother? oh now Bond is getting fucking drilled in the head? oh drilling did nothing? wow). Would've liked to see more of Casino Royale though or less intricate camp.

These are both fucking memes.

If you can't be bothered to watch a movie all the way through at the correct speed, then you don't deserve to have an opinion on it.

as I said, it depends why you're watching it. If you're judging each individual scenes on their own then yeah, go ahead and watch it to the end, maybe there'll be something you actually like at the end. I watch it for the whole, you don't need to sample everything to have an idea of the whole, if the characters are poorly written at the beginning, even if they're better written at the end, the whole of their character is still poorly written. So, no point in wasting another hour on a piece of shit movie like spectre.

How come no one is mentioning how shit and flat the action scenes were? The opening scene and train fight were great, but the car, helicopter chases and shootout at Blofeld's lair were fucking garbage. In Rome the cars were always a generous ten meters away from each other, driving in completely empty streets, no stakes, no tension, no nothing. In the shootout at Blofeld's lair Craig effortlessly picks off the bad guys, standing out in the open while they miss every shot at him. Holy shit, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. The way Craig escaped the torture chair was really anti-climatic and unsatisfying too.

Same, I QoS and Skyfall were shit but halfway into this I was rating it up there with Casino Royale. Sadly it went to shit at that point and now I don't even know where it ranks.

They need to bring back the weird baddies like Oddjob, Jaws (RIP in Teeth,) and Baron Samedi.
Samedi is my favorite, mostly because they never clarify if he's just a dude helping Mr. Big that happens to be into voodoo, or if he's a literal God of Death.

Baron Samedi is also dead senpai

The opening of this movie was fucking great

>the dead are alive
something so strange to see in a bond movie right at the start. i love it

Then the movie went downhill with the horrible car chase that was just a car commercial practically, rushed 3rd act with very little screen time of Waltz as Blofeld.

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It was me James

As a kid Samedi fucked me up when he came back at the very end. I just couldn't understand why he didn't die and then the laugh. I also unironically had nightmares about that one sofa eating the one guy because my dad had same kind of leather sofa. The movie has great surreal feeling to it unlike Spectre.

In my head canon Bond goes braindead from the drilling because everything after that happens so easily for him.

Aside from 3th, this. Bond in London is always boring and certainly doesn't deserve to be the climax.

Also, the Scooby Doo gang of M, Q and Moneypenny is lame and only there for millennials raised on crappy BBC shows.

>You've gotta give it this, the movie LOOKED incredible
>Cinematography Hoyte van Hoytema
nigga cant fix everything

Doctor No please, you're getting remade as a black woman.