>"I asked Michael why it was easier to train oil drillers to become astronauts than it was to train astronauts to become oil drillers, and he told me to shut the fuck up, so that was the end of that talk."
-Ben Affleck, during the Armageddon commentary track
It actually makes more sense to send drillers into space than it does to train astronauts to drill, for a multitude of reasons.
They had real astronauts with them to do all the actual astronaut shit anyway.
>for a multitude of reasons.
Will you be listing some of them at some point then?
>They had real astronauts with them to do all the actual astronaut shit anyway.
OH ALRIGHT THEN
>have oil drillers
>have astronauts
>use the astronauts to bring the oil drillers to space so the astronauts can astro and the drillers can drill
They didn't train the drillers to b astronauts, they just gave them enough training that they wouldn't immediately die in space.
>job so easy even fucking mentally deficient blue collar workers can do it right
>hurrdurr
The film establishes that NASA scientists didn't know how to correctly assemble the drill. Whether or not this is realistic is irrelevant, oil drillers being necessary for drilling is internally consistent with the logic of the film's universe.
If that nuclear bomb or whatever it was, had enough power to blow up the asteroid, would drilling down and burying it before setting it off, really have made that much difference than just setting it off near the surface?
>"I asked Zack why their mothers having the same name would make them go from enemies to best friends, and he told me to shut the fuck up, so that was the end of that talk."
Because the training to go to space isn't that hard. They were going to send Lance Bass into space for fuck sakes. Training to be a deep sea oil drilling engineer is extremely hard and requires years of education and training.
You don't go to school to train to become an astronaut. 95% of the struggle to becoming an astronaut is being useful enough to send into space to begin with, like being a scientist for example.
Affleck was too stupid to understand that you don't doubt based Bay. Ben wishes that he is half the director Bay is
I love Afleck even more. I never bothered with commentary unless it was from a something like Jaboody dubs or RLM. But fuck that was great
Blowing up the thing from the inside is more efficient than from the outside, yes. Think BBQs and ketchup. The whole idea is idiotic, the asteroid wouldn't split neatly in two like it does in the infographic they show at the beginning of the movie, it would shatter in thousands of pieces and Earth is still fucked.
The worst about this movie is that they actually mention a sensible option for asteroid deflection at the beginning of the movie, but the scientist who proposes it is laughed out of the room because his quickly thrown together model that he's done for illustration purposes doesn't work very well.
Is that the solar sail thingy?
>food metaphor
i hope you get raped and murdered by a gang or roaming niggers
>training people to be astronauts is not that hard guys
>now training people how to hold a drill THAT's tricky
I know you're just trying to be contrarian but let it go. Literally noone believes you are actually that stupid.
It was a cheap gimmick to get muh salt of the earth into the movie and he gets called out for it. Nothing more nothing less.
set off a firecracker in your open hand, then set off same firecracker in your closed fist and tell me the difference
This is actually hysterical. Is the rest of it this good?
There is a reason for the stupid plot, it caters to the pleb. It basically says, you don't need a degree to go to space and save the world. If you can drill a hole in the ground, you're in.
they dont need to be astronauts though, they just need to know how to surive/function in 0 g enviroments. ive never drilled for oil, but im assuming a lifetime of drilling for bruce willi's boys trumps a 4 week crash course
I always figured it was more a case of the intuition and instinct of knowing when to throttle and ease off depending on how the drill was tackling the rock was something that couldn't be taught in a crash course. Like someone pointed out, it's not like they weren't sent there without being accompanied by NASAs best.
Like getting shot on a big gay rocket fueled by tax payers is any harder.
Yup. Lots of options IRL to make an asteroid not hit earth, and some of them even use nuclear weapons (you detonate a series of them next to the asteroid, the light from the explosion warms the object, parts of it evaporate and move away from the object, and the object moves in the other direction by reaction. Time it right and you nudge the object out of the way), but none of the involve drilling inside the object. Because if you do that you now have hundreds of rocks hurling your way, and you can't maneuver them out of the way anymore.
I'm literally quoting the movie here friendo
Also I like Taytay's new nose better.
It looks easy because they make it look so easy since they have a lot of experience in it.
That's the fucking point no matter how much theory you learned yoou need a lot of practice to do any craft.
Take a mechinical engineer fresh from collage and tell him to built a simple tool out of a block of steel. He'll get there eventualy but it will most likly be very crude. Give that same task a blue collar worker who is a toolmaker and he will get it done in hours and it will be good.
The idiots who were supposed to drill had just to drill. The space craft flying part with all its complexity was done by teal astronauts and a crazy cosmonaut. That movie has way better plot holes to bitch about.
This particular sentence made a lot of sense actualy.
>The film establishes that NASA scientists didn't know how to correctly assemble the drill
that's retarded
No you keyboard warrior because 4 hours are enough to learn drilling. Meanwhile the fact that they weren't trained astronauts nearly ruined the whole mission. Stop fucking trying you reddit tryhard there is no way to spin this around
A bigger question is why they didn't ask for insane amounts of money to do it.
Drilling a hole into a piece of plywood is not the same as drilling hundred meters into the earth under the pressure of an ocean ontop of the hole.
what was NASA's tax policy?
They did you stupid fuck. Watch the movie.
Depends on the complexity of the drill. You standard household drill? Sure a nasa scientist can assemble it. A meter long drill with a lot of gears, mechanical parts and other shit will take them a lot of time without proper supervision. Do not underestimate the complexity of modern mining equipment. That shit is a different kind of rocket science itself.
There were a lot of retarded things in that movie, but this particular qualm people tend to have isn't one of them. The physical act of being in space isn't difficult. The main prerequisite to being sent to space is being useful enough to earn your spot. In this case, the drillers had the expertise needed to justify their position, much like a scientist would on a normal mission.
Don't forget it was a super drill invented by Bruce Willis and only HE could make it work perfectly.
They didn't you mongoloid, they asked for some favors like getting rid off parking tickets and staying at the White House and not having to pay taxes ever again.
When they could have asked for millions each.
1) yes it is
2) you wouldn't know
Maybe they were wise and knew that ultimate power would corrupt them? Huh?
1) no it isn't
2) neither would you
>Armageddon 2. The drillers all became billionaires and one after another get divorced by Amber Heard
wouldn't a bunch of small asteroids do a lot less damage though? we get hit by small ones all the time and it's no big deal, some would burn up in the atmosphere. It's only the big one that would cause extinction events and sheet.
>The asteroid had a brother who is out for revenge and Affleck has to get the team back together. They go up there and discover Willis didn't die but turned into some magical space entity
They probably wouldn't be that small. And even if you somehow made every single piece small enough to burn up completely on entry individually, you still have a million tons' worth of asteroid entering the atmosphere simultaneously, I don't know what that would do to the atmosphere, but probably not good.
Name one Actor/Director that's more based than Ben.
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As long as Buscemi returns, I'd watch it.
KEEP DRILLING YOU PIECE OF SHIT
Michael Bay is right. Ben Affleck is an arrogant prima donna that thinks everyone that doesn't live in Hollywood is a moron. According to Affleck, the best oil driller in the world with three decades of experience can be replaced by an astronaut with a few weeks of training and no experience whatsoever.
>by a gang or roaming niggers
make up your mind
there are plenty of plotholes in Armageddon, but this clearly isn't one of them.
you can train to go to space within in a few weeks. it takes years to become a drilling engineer.
astronauts aren't chosen to go to space because they took some multi-year long course on being a space professional. they're chosen because they're scientists and pilots who can do the jobs that make going to space worth it in the first place. the actual astronaut training isn't that extensive, and can probably be simplified and moved along even quicker in a state of emergency.
they sent up real astronauts with to pilot the spacecraft. all the drillers have to do is know how to drill and how to not die.
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Nice one faggot
Kek
Armageddon is my favorite movie
:(
>Michael Bay movies make 100s of millions of dollars
>Affleck movies are lucky to break even
Hmmmmm
No need to feel sad about that :)
again, thats retarded
Do you not understand the complexity of the spaceshuttle?
lmao benjamin muslim btfo by bald willis will he ever recover?
what the fuck is afleck's problem there. he immediately starts getting butthurt and going after sam harris for pretty much no reason. all sam said was that you should be able to criticize a religion without automatically being labeled a racist. how the fuck is that unreasonable? and ben responds with the exact opposite of a reasoned argument, he's so fucking triggered, you can practically see him shaking and starts being passive aggressive before spouting a bunch of buzzwords and insults with no evidence or anything resembling an argument. what the hell is his problem
He started drinking again. Ben was a alcoholic back in the day and he started drinking again when all of that shit happen and then it hit him hard and he went to rehab earlier this year.
Why would oil drillers know how to drill in low gravity with no atmosphere?
They wouldn't, that's why they had to combine their powers with NASA.
>sitting in a sideways chair while some nerd from Houston pushes a button launching you into space is hard
What was that dudes plan again? I remember the foil box or whatever opening and billy bob going CUM ON GUYS
The biggest mistake of this movie was pretending that liv Tyler is attractive
>never have to pay taxes again
>Return from mission and instant world wide celebrity getting crazy endorsement deals. People throwing money at you.
>Can't get taxed on your new income.
You're not thinking it through, user.
She's not UNattractive, but she's no engage before going to space and saving the whole world type of girl. I mean you can literally have ANYONE you want after SAVING THE ENTIRE EARTH FROM EXTINCTION.
>I never bothered with commentary unless it was from a something like Jaboody dubs or RLM
Get the fuck off my board.
THE REAL ANSWER: Do you know how boring a movie would be if we just sent astronauts to an oil rig.
Pretty entertaining for them to realize their degrees in nuclear physics aren't going to help them and watch them fuck up and the whole earth get destroyed.
why didn't he start asking questions during batman vs superman?
I think Liv is very attractive. You didn't think she was looking good playing Arwen?
How do they know these retards are the world's greatest oil drillers?
Did they win an oil drilling competition? Wouldn't the best oil drillers really be some Filipino guys from Saudi Arabia?
Hahaha, this is amazing
Rec me more commentary tracks Sup Forums!
My favorite is the rick and morty commentary tracks where the creators are drunkenly telling stories and making jokes.
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Is this around the time he quit producing the Batman movie?
In the beginning some government dude says they asked people in the business and everyone said Willis is the greatest driller.
It might interest you to know that most Americans who drill for oil have a BS degree minimum
Michael Bay I love you but pls go
Armageddon is a perfect blockbuster.
>great ensemble cast
>top notch pace, always something happening
>roller coaster of almost all emotions
>funny dialogue
>great visuals that still hold up today
>god tier score
Hola shit this movie doesnt have any plot holes at all
The drillers nor the astronauts are there to assemble a space shuttle. It's done by aeronautical engineers. That's my point. Specialist do the stuff they were trained for and have years of experince in. You take nasa engineers to do nasa stuff. You take astronauts to pilot the shuttle and you take drilling experts to drill. What the fuck is so hard to understand about that?
I know it's kinda a meme but plenty of bays movies are great blockbusters
Did you know a blockbuster is some type of explosion?