One of the worlds best surgeons

>one of the worlds best surgeons
>learned from the most prestigious institutions and profound tutors
>very intelligent and billionaire
>swerves down a two lane road on the edge of a cliff while its raining and while on the phone

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Intelligent people get in car wrecks. This is your main critique of the film??

>Intelligent people get in car wrecks.
Yeah, when someone crashes into them, or they have a heart attack at the wheel or something.

>one of the worlds best surgeons
>learned from the most prestigious institutions and profound tutors
>very intelligent and billionaire
>Is dis our mantra :DDDDD??

I felt it was an anti-phone-driving message.

prett good film desu

>Doctors are autistic assholes
Really sets the puzzler wuzzlin'.

That mantra joke was pretty damn funny come on now

>one of the smartest men in the world
>a shape thinker, a passionate lover
>handsome, daring, courageous, talented
>spends his time shitposting on Sup Forums Sup Forums
me irl

>intelligent people never do stupid shit

It's firmly established that he was arrogant and narcissistic. He never thought that HE could get into an accident.

My best friend was a top-of-his-field computer programmer. He was also arrogant and narcissistic. He also liked to take GHB. He never thought that HE would die of an overdose.

I think it's a bad way of forcing him to face his shitty attitude. He was "just" careless, the car accident has nothing to do with him being arrogant unless you want to force that message.
I mean, unless you imply that the same message would apply if the accident was him slipping on a banana peel while walking and texting.

His recklessness is a clear product of his arrogance as demonstrated in the way he performs complex surgeries while doing stupid trivia quizzes. Don't cry about it because you failed to pick up on it. We can't all have a genius level IQ.

no street smarts, it happens.

>chaos god from a hell dimension
>doesn't torture doctor quips
>just kills him painlessly a few times and then gives up
May as well not show him at all. Worst superhero movie in a long time

I dunno man, he was arrogant but at the same time excellent at his job and saved lives. I don't really see what fate would demonstrate by fucking his hands up.

I liked how they didn't make him this immediatley likable, do no wrong sort of hero at the beginning. He was an asshole. A flawed, regular person with a giant ego. You normally don't see that in capeshit.
The movie wasn't perfect, but I think his character arc was nicley done.

except that was what tony stark was.

>I liked how they made yet another Iron Man character
Jesus christ

I didn't really like this movie as much as I wanted to. Dr. Strange doesn't really seem all that strange to me, and his powers have the vaguest definition so far. "It's just magic xD" is such a boring and unfulfilling explanation.

We get no sense of boundaries at all. When everything's just "magic", what's stopping this guy from magically creating a fireball that rivals the sun in size and dropping it on anyone he doesn't like?

Instead he shoots small water-gun streams of visual effects the entire movie.

Oh, and this was the last movie we watched together. I think it was the last time I saw him alive.

I can never watch this movie again, which is a shame because the effects were incredible in 3D.

well to be honest in the comic books Strange used to be pretty overpowered

They made Iron Mad immediately likeable, at least the tried harder to make Strange a prick.

The movie really fucked up in a lot of ways but Strange was mostly okay.

Tony didn't change though. He's still an arrogant asshole who reeeees as soon as anyone disagrees with him.

That's not true though. Tony Stark was charming and likeable from the get-go, even if he was self-absorbed and arrogant. There were audible gasps in the audience by contrast when Strange was shouting at Christine.

I agree, I legitimately did not see it coming.

Yeah he feels like the Superman of the Marvel universe except that you at least have some clear definition of where Superman's powers begin and end.

Superman is essentially Jesus on crack, but has a huge problem with green rocks.

Strange is essentially God on crack with no weakness or limitations.

For fucks sake the climax of the movie is literally catching the god of a different dimension in an eternal time-paradox.

Why the fuck do the Avengers even need to exist when we have Deus Ex Machina: The Character?

>there are still good things in your life (or something like that)
>What, like you?

Audible gasps in the theater, which I got a real kick out of. I've never heard another Marvel hero say such a dickish thing.

It's a shame they had to bring her back for a tacky, shitty, obnoxious romance that cluttered the second act.

Because the Avengers don't know he exists.

Eh? She still barely had a role in the movie. He had more important things to do, like Tilda Swinton.

The thing about these magic characters is that they don't really rely on sheer power but on outsmarting each other. Strange is so powerful because some of his enemies are extradimensional gods that could destroy the universe very easily.
Although I though they really wasted Dormammu in this movie, the way he beats him is actually interesting instead of the usual punches and lasers.

>talented and successful people don't do stupid shit

One of our best client at work killed himself because he was toying with his mistress while drivng and lost control of car.

The entire hospital part was stupid as fuck, and their relationship went nowhere. It was only there so he could have some closure and to show that he wasn't gay.

The guy who invented the segway drove off a cliff while on a segway.

ease that in

this

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But does that matter? I don't remember precisely if he rewinds time at the end of his movie (he does something in some Asian district but I was well zoned-out by then), but if he has this power at his fingertips why the fuck does this world NEED anyone?

And I remind you: he jailed Satan from a place called the Dark Dimension in a fucking time-paradox until Satan agreed to fuck off.

I will give you that it was "interesting". At least it did something a little different from all the other capeshit we see, and it was nice to see a hero beat a villain by not being stronger or better than them, but by being clever and taking advantage of their poorly defined superhero mechanics.

That being said, I don't think I like Dr. Strange. Not because of the movie as much as the source material. It's just boring when you hook a guy up messiah-tier powers.

Say what you want about Tony Stark, but at least he feels like he has some real weaknesses and can't arm-wrestle the anti-christ in his spare time.

>things that aren't true that retards constantly fucking say anyway

...

Who are you quoting

>the way he beats him is actually interesting instead of the usual punches and lasers.

>timeless god gets bored after like 15 deaths
Maybe I missed something, but why not go for a few million repetitions and see if Strange doesn't go insane somewhere along the line
It's not like time is pressing since it's an endless loop

My biggest problem with this movie is still that the trial he had to endure in exchange for unlimited power was to wait outside a door for six fucking hours.

Six fucking hours. The he became a god. It's not so much that moment tickling my autism as it is that moment telling you all you need to know about the rest of the film; everything is perfunctory, nothing is earned.

Maybe he dude and maybe he did... whoa....

Its almost as if the montage was meant to illustrate that Strange died MORE than 15 times.

Wow...

Why did this feel like the most generic mcu film ever?

The point still stands
Strange is a mere human bean, his brain can't take getting killed over and over and over for all eternity

>arrogant, full of himself know it all douche decides to drive fast in his expensive car and half pay attention to the road

It's honestly not that hard to believe.

Ah, tequila and cat piss. I've had that before. They called it a Pusy Mexicano

And Dormamu couldn't take existing through an eternity of the same moment. Strange didn't need to live through an eternity of deaths. He just had to outlast his adversary.

Nevermind that, let's discuss how severe that accident was, and how besides his hands he barely got fucked up.

>t. just watched the RLM review

IIRC nothing implied that he retain the memory of each death, each loop he resetted his conscience. Dormammu noticed everything because he's stronger.

...

Should've let Agamotto take the wheel

Agamotto helps those who help themselves.

Honestly it was one of the better verbal fights/arguments in the MCU and actually had some back behind it.

You can just fucking tell Cumberbatch has been in that exact argument before IRL, homeboy wasn't acting there.

I was considering that, but I faintly remember him saying something indicating that he does retain the memories
Might be wrong though, which would explain the scene

Killing some puny mortal is quite less taxing on the mindthan getting violently murdered, though

Who is the more arrogant, narcissistic know-it-all doctor? Who wins in an elitist-off?

Actually it was the guy who bought the segway company from the inventor who did that.

Because it was like the 14th one?
I don't really understand how anyone finds it any more generic, or hell, worse, than any of the others. At least we got a halfway decent end battle with the rewind special effects and a cool twist on an end baddie battle like GotG

>Billionaire

Um,no.

Because of his great power, Dormamu had never experienced weakness or fear. When confronted with both by someone who had a power over him, and couldn't be cowed, his courage collapsed. Because he didn't really have any.

The deepest lore

There's a deleted scene where Strange remarks that they've gone through the loop over a thousand times.

woah

>YOU SHALL NOT PASS

Nope, actually. Was that one of their complaints?

I liked taht it wasn't a tragical accident, like oh my god, I got hurt trying to save a little puppy from a car crash or some drunk bastard that hits him and he later forgives him and help with his rehab... no, he just fucked it up. It's kinda brave for the capeshit genre

Nigga he was new to experiencing the sensation of time, he existed outside of it and thus he couldn't comprehend being stuck there forever.

From what I recall that was the canonical comic version too.

I knew that joke literally years ago from the first trailer of the first sneak peak from the official trailer

I was going to ask that. But I guess he wasn't downloading a pdf from his smart phone in the 70's comics

yeah smart and successful people make dumb decisions quite often actually

bigger question is how could this movie gone from a 6.5 to a 9? a better villain reveal or less about dormammu being the baddy at the end and more so Kaecilius being the bigger payoff.

yeah that car crash was so out of character

Yeah. But the origin arc was the same.

>new york
>new jersey

No one in the northeast should ever be sick or die from any disease ever with these guys around.

I cant bring myself to watch it. Likr all the avengers and marvel movies but I look at this and just think I'd cringe.

People who are very talented and intelligent think they'll never fuck up, because they've gone a long time successfully avoiding it. But inevitably they do.

You're a faggot. I find every marvel movie more and more boring since the avengers, but I really liked this one and I now regret I didn't watch it in a big screen.

>he's book smart so he must have common sense
"intelligent" people do dumb fucking things all the time. This guy was at the height of his arrogance when the crash happened, thinking nothing could go wrong, that he was invincible. There's no flaw here.

Fight me then I bang girls all the time

sheldor

It was fantastic in the theatre. It actually used 3D properly, instead of as a gimmick. So well in fact that a lot of the movie won't translate back into 2D.

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>tfw to intelligent too crash a car

Yeah, and god complexes are especially common in doctors and teachers.

my main critique is that the film was paper thin - just like the comic nobody read and was boring as shit.

>homeboy
if he wasn't you would have noticed a change in her face

Is this true? makes sense.

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He means the lines were delivered so believable that it seems like he wasn't even acting. Not that he was literally telling Rachel McAdams she was a worthless nobody

This plot point made sense. He was an arrogant jackass character in the start of the movie, and the crash scene is just a product of his overconfidence. Pride comes before the fall (off a cliff in a flaming wreck).

I didn't really like the movie overall, but I think it's just a case of Origin Story fatigue than anything to do with the setup they used. Nobody actually needs an origin story spelled out, and with very few exceptions, they tend to be the same formulaic dreck over and over. Somebody needs to tell Marvel execs about this hot new writing technique called "in media res".

Literally all the complaints about this film trace back to it being shoehorned into an origin story format. The villains are one dimensional because they had no time to develop them, because they spent the most of the first hour on Doctor MuhHands, and most of the second on Hogwarts. The overwhelming majority of it is stuff that we don't need to know to enjoy a Doc Strange movie. What was Rachel McAdams doing? Why was there even a love interest in this movie?? What the hell does ANYTHING have to do with Vietnam!?!?!

It's a subset of confirmation bias. Yes, it's a thing.

I know. No one is immune.

>Be intelligent person
>Be best at what I do
>Bring people back from the dead and shit
>Start thinking I'm beyond all error
>Go full retard while driving
>Get fukt

Hubris, nigga

That sucks, m8

>Strange is essentially God on crack with no weakness or limitations.

Not knowing much about him from comics, I suppose you could argue that it's a necessity since he deals with gods such as Dormammu for a living.

How long did it take for him to get good
One of my main gripes is that for being all about Time, it doesn't even tell you how much time passes when he trains

yeah they really dropped the ball on this point, it felt like a matter of days the way it was shown

Comic book writers have been juggling this problem for years. It's all about having appropriately scaled threats for the different characters. Strange can't deal with Avenger problems, because he's got his own shit going on. Hulk or Ironman could easily take out the enemies from Daredevil, but they're busy fighting aliens. And so on.