Is this the first time cover artists on Greg Rucka’s Wonder Woman have walked off citing intolerable interference?
Adam Hughes ended a multiple year run as cover artist of Wonder Woman three issues into Greg Rucka’s first tenure as writer, after Wonder Woman #196. The printed cover looks very different to the original solicited version, though you can still see reused images, such as the large foreground hands being mobved around and Wonder Woman’s own hands.
The owner of one of the preliminary sketches of the cover to Wonder Woman #196 writes,
This cover had quite a few prelims, one of which I’m lucky enough to own. The eventual cover (far right) was quite different to the study. What I heard is that someone at DC said that in the first colour prelim (the central image) having one of the autograph hunters touching Wonder Woman’s thigh was inappropriate. Adam was asked to redraw it. I don’t think Adam was that impressed with the interference and he changed the whole piece, put Diana in a skirt and cloak, raised her arms up to cover her chest and obscured as much flesh as he could – just to make sure no puritans were offended. The end result was actually a beautiful cover, with a very innocent Wonder Woman looking like a rabbit trapped in a cars headlights. Quite different from what was originally intended. Only Diana’s face survived the cut more or less unchanged.
I can see why Rucka would have issues... The body language is all wrong and the bottom of that unitard is riding up way too high
Eli Morales
>bleeding cool Rich, pls. No pageviews today.
Kevin Foster
This just makes Hughes sound like a cunt.
Hunter Sullivan
>the body language is all wrong What? It's classic "get the fuck away" body language
Brody Edwards
There's really no defending Rucka at all. The guy has a history of valuing his "I'M A MALE FEMINIST" shit that he's willing to throw tantrums and run off popular artists from fucking covers of all things.
He also wouldn't come back to Wonder Woman unless they basically let him completely retcon Azzarello's run.
The guy is just completely unprofessional and shouldn't really be getting jobs anywhere.
Ryder Peterson
Anyone have a pastebin or whatever?
Carter Phillips
Greg "lesbian trapped in a man's body (but totes not trans)" Rucka is a sjw cuck that censors art. What else is new?
Caleb Moore
Prefer the end cover, much like I suspect I'll prefer Cho's replacement. Shitty reasoning both times, but if it ends with better art then no big deal
Dominic Cooper
I'm 99% sure Hughes was exclusive during most of his DC covers and he didn't have much of a say on what books he worked on. On Before Watchmen, I remember reading in an interview he wanted to be on something like Nightowl not Dr. Manhattan but he didn't say in the matter.
Ryan Martinez
>don't have he being groped and sexually assaulted on the cover please >CENSORSHIP I'M LEAVING
these stories are making the artists seem like babies
Kevin Sanders
How?
Sebastian Gutierrez
>I know more about art than Adam Hughes
Leo Butler
...
Wyatt White
Can someone post the stuff?
Brody Jackson
But the hand isn't groping her
Mason Anderson
you are correct, it's like melting into her or something
Alexander Barnes
Just go to Bleeding Cool.
Angel James
I feel this was probably more editorial being fags then the writer being a faggot. The timing just looks really bad on ruckas part now that he has driven cho off with his faggotry
Nathaniel White
>posting any journo site other than based breitbart
This board is really cucked in the head.
Luke Wilson
Look, I love Hughes, I really do, but he likes to draw what is essentially porn. Nothing wrong with porn, but not all comics are porn. Greg Rucka doesn't write porn comics. Comic covers are meant to be representative of the comic's content. Therefore, Hughes is a bad fit for a Rucka comic. Makes sense that he'd prefer to work on something else that's more suited to his strengths and preferences. There's nothing unusual about that. There's nothing unusual or unreasonable about any of that. You know what is unreasonable? Thinking that all comics books should have cheesecake covers, without exception, even when it doesn't fit the tone of the work at all. You know what's unprofessional? Whining about censorship when you get feedback from a your employer, quitting, and then airing your dirty laundry. Of course, a professional like Hughes wouldn't do anything like that.
Anthony Wood
ok yes but at the same time this is america and we generally try and censor sexually explicit images cuz muh children
Benjamin Davis
>the bottom of that unitard is riding up way too high
That was her costume/design at the time
Jeremiah Campbell
No.
Adam Bailey
And who runs America?
William Richardson
Christians
Sebastian Edwards
Close. The Answer is Jews
Ryder Bennett
>comic covers are meant to be representive of the comics content Are you fucking for real?
Jaxon Sullivan
If it were just Cho or just Highes it could be passed off as them being the problem, but both in close succession is pretty damning for Rucka.
Mason Morris
Rucka isn't Cho's employer. Cho's actual employers, DC comics, were perfectly fine with the work he was producing.
Noah Young
>what is essentially porn. Cheesecake is not porn.
>Comic covers are meant to be representative of the comic's content. Comic covers are meant to grab a browser's attention. Whether or not it is indicative of the story within the book varies from comic to comic.
>You know what is unreasonable? Thinking that all comics books should have cheesecake covers, without exception No one has ever claimed that.
Nathaniel Flores
When your idea of cheesecake is the slightest sliver of Wonder woman's leotard of 75 years than you lose the right to decide what is cheesecake and what is not.
Mason Campbell
>Hughes draws what is essentially porn You might as well label all figure drawing as porn then.
Jace Rodriguez
>Comic covers are meant to be representative of the comic's content
LMFAO
>Greg Rucka doesn't write porn comics
He does if it involves lesbians
>You know what is unreasonable? Thinking that all comics books should have cheesecake covers, without exception, even when it doesn't fit the tone of the work at all.
How is that pertinent? Who said otherwise? What was the point of this sentence?
>You know what's unprofessional? Whining about censorship when you get feedback from a your employer, quitting, and then airing your dirty laundry.
Cho only said anything because BC were going to run a story without all the facts. Maybe he's the kind of guy who values the truth over "professional integrity."
Carson Rivera
It's not close succession it's a story from years ago. And from the sounds of it, he actually had a verbal contract with his Editor that gave him moderate free range.
Alexander Gonzalez
I like the final version of Hughes's cover -- but probably just because I LOVE that outfit combo on her.
But there's nothing inappropriate about the prelims, god damn puritans.
Gavin Morgan
Can someone post the preliminary sketches?
Ethan White
nice
Jeremiah Cook
I think that Rucka feels he's protecting Diana's image or something by driving cheesecake cover artists from the book. Which is an ironically patronizing and old-fashioned mentality for a self-identified feminist, but a common one.
Ryan Brooks
...user. really. Better than Cho or Hughes?
Kevin Green
Although in a way I suppose the cho stuff is an editorial fuckup to in that they never should have given rucka control over the covers.
Still this doesn't really mean anything against rucka like cho does.
Jonathan Peterson
I like Hughes and all but he seems to have something against hips. So his women end up top heavy with nothing else. I like Cho better.
Also they should put Amanda Connor on these covers. She draws as much "cheesecake" as Cho and Hughes, but being female I wonder if Rucka would dare throw a shit fit over it.
Ryan Kelly
The evidence feels circumstantial in this case if rucka had not been a dick to cho recently we would still be blaming this one on editorial.
Jordan Wilson
I can't fucking wait for Hughes's variants on Orlando's Supergirl
Charles Thomas
I thought they liked that explicit stuff.
Easton Murphy
Wait Hughes's is doing variants for super girl his power girl variants were nice.
Thomas Moore
>Greg Rucka doesn't write porn comics The appeal of cheesecake is purely visual, 85% of the time, it has NOTHING to do with the fucking writing. It exist to be a separate visually pleasing element.
Jaxson Murphy
You could at least point out how some of them are wrong. This like telling someone to go back to Sup Forums without addressing the point.
Michael Wood
I just want to, like, hold her hand.
Jacob Parker
Okay, even if I agree with your point, I have to point out that cuck is a stupid Sup Forums buzzword and you're fucking using it wrong.
Cuckolding is a fetish. Its when someone fucks your spouse, and you jack off to it. It has nothing to do with politics, having children, or any permanent relationship. People who jerk off to feet for example have nothing to do with walking, and trying to connect a foot fetish to people who are homeless just makes you look fucking stupid no matter how many Sup Forumstards say it.
Also, yer a faget.
Daniel Sullivan
no one cares
Jordan Morgan
Are you fucking kidding? Jews only run Hollywood.
'murrica is run by Monsanto and GE.
Xavier Russell
Very cute
Leo Sanders
>No one has ever claimed that. Fuck all of you, I'm claiming that.
Beefcake and cheesecake, all the time. Every time.
If you don't like it, get back in the Amish country where you belong.
Liam Nguyen
>muh amazon murder rape
Angel Price
Its Puritanism, pure and simple.
True feminism is about sexual equality. Women can go topless. Guys can wear speedos on the beach without being arrested. A guy who bangs a hot chick and a chick who bangs a hot guy both give each other high fives. Anyone, male or female, who sleeps around too much is labeled a filthy slut.
But these new age "feminists" want both men and women in burkas. No sex, no sexuality, just one giant asexual mess.
Carson Harris
That's because they're cucks.
Isaiah Johnson
Hey it was completely consensual murder sex.
Matthew Flores
This.
The sex wasn't a crime. The murder was.
But who cares, they were Portuguese. I'm actually shocked that apparently the British hate the Portuguese. I mean, 99% of the time we forget Portugal even exists.
Christopher Green
Well to be fair they're close, like a moderately timed boat ride close. I'm sure most countries don't give a shit about Mexico, but they're our neighbors. And we don't give a shit about Guatamala or Belize. I honestly thought Belize was a city in a more important country until I looked it up. But I'm sure Mexico has Belize on the radar in some capacity. Portugal is Belize.
Kayden Reed
I don't think I've ever heard of a writer having having any concern or say in covers before.
Luke Roberts
Cuck is used in place of bitch nowadays. Doesn't seem that much of stretch to me. The fetish you described sounds like something a certified pussy would get off to.
Mason Davis
Then again if not for this incident I doubt rucka would have even thought to ask for control over covers.