>Why Marvel Will Change Captain Marvel’s Origin Story in the Brie Larson Film
>Guardians of the Galaxy scribe and Captain Marvel co-writer Nicole Perlman said on a podcast Tuesday that Carol Danvers (a.k.a. Captain Marvel) will get a new origin story. Perlman explained that Marvel wanted to differentiate Captain Marvel’s backstory from that of DC Comics’ Green Lantern. (The two tales share some similarities.) Perlman said the changes would make the movie—the 21st in the Marvel Cinematic Universe—more cohesive with the other Marvel films.
>“If you were just going to do a straight adaptation of the comics, her origin story is very similar to Green Lantern. And obviously, that’s not what we want to do. There’s a lot of reinvention that needs to happen,” she said on Any Time With Vin Forte. “We have to be aware of what’s happened in other Marvel film and makes sure that her particular storyline is unique and fun and also fits in within this world that’s going on at the same time.”
>In the comics, Carol Danvers gets her powers when a machine created by the alien race called Kree—the same race Ronan the Accuser belongs to in Guardians of the Galaxy—explodes. During the disaster, the alien powers of a Kree hero who calls himself Captain Marvel (his real name is Mar-Vell) transfer to Carol, at which point she becomes a superhero in her own right. She first takes the name Ms. Marvel but later adopts Mar-Vell’s old title, Captain Marvel. She becomes a part of the Avengers team and also aids the Guardians of the Galaxy.
Why are they bothering to make a Carol movie if they know she's terrible? Why can't Marvel stay true to the comics instead of making shit up?
Isaac Brooks
hey at least the movie version may be better than the comics version and they'll have no choice but to change the comics version into something better
Adrian Martinez
If Marvel were truly superior then they'd keep the origin without fear of being too similar.
Luke Powell
Bendis will come up with the new story.
Caleb Lee
Infinity Stone, obviously. Almost everyone is powered by them in the MCU.
Ethan Martin
She will probably be a pilot or Ross rep in Infinity War.
Camden Richardson
I would like to see Rick Jones and Glenn Talbot.
Aiden Carter
So far only Vision is.
Jayden Bennett
nearly everything from the comics concerning Carol is a complete mess of inconsistency, bad writing, creative teams getting rid of things people actually -liked- about the character for no apparent reason, or some ugly combination of all three. so i guess she really IS Marvel's answer to Wonder Woman...
Carson Diaz
I lol'd
Carol getting her own time-displaced younger self as a sidekick when?
Connor Thompson
Does anybody like this bitch?
Kayden Reyes
Don't know why people care about the changes in the first place, it's not Carol anyway, she died in AvX.
Now it's just the mess KSD created, that everyone decided to build upon, move on.
Nathan Phillips
It'll be a military movie.
Austin Barnes
How are origins similar other then they were pilots
Dominic Fisher
quicksilver and wanda were enhanced by experiments from the mind stone, weren't they?
John Jackson
You are completely right.
The Carol Corps, mostly.
Kevin Roberts
We don't know why they survived, though.
Can't be pure luck.
Jace Davis
test pilots that got super powers from an alien device and took the name of their predecessor
Luke Baker
I'mma just assume they mean the part where she blunders her way into her powers instead of taking them on willingly and that Marv and Rogg and the Kree will all still be involved.
Evan Cox
>They're sidelining Mar-Vell >For Frumpy Carol i mad
Daniel Mitchell
I made that thread. I feel the sadder for it.
Ryder Flores
What I think is likely:
> She'll be millitary, a pilot and perhaps also be used by Ross to usurp Tony.
>Pro-Accords as fuck. Hates Team Cap with a passion.
> Has a fractious friendship with Tony.
Jason Nelson
Guilty. And might I just say default referring to female characters as bitch is very problematic.
Samuel Reyes
>hurr durr character sucks they are changing the character so it doesn't suck, because they want to hit a new demographic and they have no better setup >hurr durr why are they changing her
David Taylor
She died in The Enemy Within. Then got resuscitated by Ewing & the ANAD writers anyway.
Angel Sanchez
Probably.
But she'll end up with Falcon instead of War Machine (because the latter is old in the MCU).
Not because he's black, because they are all in the air force.
Brayden Perez
How're the 70s treating ya'?
Ryder Scott
Every time people mention a "Captain Marvel movie" I think they're talking about Shazam. I wonder if that'll cause troubles.
Kayden Howard
inhumie genes. bookmark me.
Benjamin Richardson
I thought Captain Marvel was a guy???
Easton Sanchez
Nobody really knows either.
They ARE coming within a month or two of each other, so we'll get a lot of memes and shitposting around it, but the average cunt won't know.
Just remember: the one with the lightning is Ms. Marvel
Mason Powell
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Nicholas Nelson
Marvel desperately wants a new RDJ Iron Man hit, so it makes sense to redo Captain Marvel again.
Hunter Edwards
Captain Marvel's origin story is a bit convoluted and boring, so I'm fine with them changing it.
Daniel James
>Not because he's black Suuuuuuuuure, user.
Ethan Jackson
Strange is the Iron Man replacement
Jayden Miller
>If Marvel were truly superior then they'd keep the origin without fear of being too similar. What, like Wonder Woman's movie? lol
Carson Stewart
:^)
Hunter Diaz
Well, either that or The Other planned it all along.
Andrew Harris
Yeah.
Angel Turner
But Strange is not an Avenger.
Nicholas Ortiz
Not that I expect anons to agree, but I think the more we embrace the idea that the MCU is going to treat Carol as an OC Donut Steel character that will be completely divorced from her history in comics, the happier we are likely to be with the result.
Jaxson Gutierrez
Just like with Tony Stark and Peter Quill, and that shit fed back into the comics.
John Reyes
>Why are they bothering to make a Carol movie if they know she's terrible?
Muh Tumblr hero.
>Why can't Marvel stay true to the comics instead of making shit up?
Not everything that works in comics works on screen.
Joseph Russell
The alternative is to make them shitty like the comics?
Shitty writers will write shitty stories everytime. The movie side is the competent one for the most part, and shouldn't be pussy-footing just because of Bendis.
James Gunn in particular seems to have a special interest in throwing wrenches in his plans.
Caleb Anderson
It took her like 40 years
Jeremiah Thomas
This. The MCU does not destroy its characters for "shock" sensationalism.
Christian Green
MCU: We're going to make a Captain Marvel movie
Sup Forums: Why? She sucks and is boring and doesn't have any good stories
MCU: We're going to change Carol's backstory to be more original and better for the movie, like we have with plenty of other characters.
Sup Forums: What omg why?!??!?!
Isaiah Price
No, it just toned them down for normies to like it and fuck over their comic base.
Jason Scott
>MCU adaptations >Better.
Sup Forums spotted.
Owen Campbell
It's just a sign that reassures Sup Forums's first point. If the character is such garbage that you have to rebuild it from the ground up, then it would be off being scrapped.
Leo Bell
I would totally okay with them acting like nothing Carol ever did in the comics happened (except for like, Binary being a thing). But come hell or high water I want the Captain Marvel movie to double down on being a Captain fucking Marvel movie. Use material by Starlin and PAD and DnA to fill in the gaps for the love of God PLEASE.
Justin Roberts
they've rebooted her five times in comics in the past five years
William Adams
Honestly as long as she crusades against xenos scum, I'll be more or less satisfied.
Angel Ramirez
yes
Grayson Hill
So, sort of like TJ Laser with tits.
Justin Gutierrez
The writer did the same thing with GotG, which made a rather lackluster property into one of the most widely enjoyed. The rewriting of the characters was a good move, and it worked.
If a character has a really popular and well known backstory that the public expects, like Spider-Man or Batman, of course it's stupid to change it. But Captain Marvel is a literally who to the general public, but she's not a bad concept to work with. If they can take her potential and make it into a non-shit story, then why not?
Matthew Sanchez
>Fire
>In space.
This pisses me off so much.
Jason Carter
>which made a rather lackluster property into one of the most widely enjoyed only for mcu normies.
Dylan Perry
>KSD, Agent Carter in Space and Civil War II Wow such literally giants to overcome I don't think they can pull it off guiz
Aiden Davis
>Carol Danvers Movie >Why You could have just stopped there. Just kidding, Carol is my murderfu and I hope they manage to somehow do her justice.
Hudson Bailey
I... suppose that works.
Grayson Adams
not all of those were reboots.
damn right. Purge them with fire.
I'm hoping they keep her darker edge. The bland no-flaws version that KSD tried to make was terrible. Bring us the angry, alcoholic, reckless, sarcastic, violent lesbian in denial we need.
Hunter Perez
>TJ Laser with tits. >with tits Nah, that's against marvel's present day rules.
Carter Davis
It's like you never heard of the sun
Lincoln Russell
Marvel just published a thing calling MarVell fans sexist
Carson Collins
If she sucks, why make a movie about her?
Logan Reyes
MCU normies are a legitimate, way more profitable and numerous fanbase than the comic fanbase. They'd be stupid not to make the movies appealing to a larger group of people.
The point is, everyone can agree that Carol needs a reworking. People on here constantly bitch about how much they hate her. If the movies make her different and more likable to a wider audience, nothing of value is lost whatsoever.
Brandon Lopez
It'll be fine.
Captain Marvel is going to be a colorful, fun space movie and Shazam will be yet another edgy black and white killfest.
Kayden Harris
fire in space pisses you off, but a woman flying in space with no life support or means of propulsion doesn't?
at least be consistent about your autism
Easton Rodriguez
While it is true that fire burns differently in space, you do understand that stars are just giant balls of fire in space, don't you?
Considering how powerful Carol is would you begrudge her fiery hair in light of her ability to defy physics already?
Elijah Johnson
I never knew they adapted those books. Also
>Hellcat reaction image.
Drink bleach.
Robert Mitchell
Why would I do that when I could be here annoying you? :^3
Matthew Reyes
That's what people said would happen with Nu52 Billy, then next thing we know, he saves Christmas.
Nathaniel Hughes
That's what you took from that page? Seriously? Christ you people are paranoid.
Noah Reyes
New business demographic, interesting concept and a new kind of powerset to explore and play with. Marvel still hasn't put a full on flying brick to screen.
>inb4 you rebut only one of these
Wyatt Kelly
>Bring us the angry, alcoholic, reckless, sarcastic, violent lesbian in denial we need. >from nuMarvel
Jaxson Parker
Literal nuclear fire is wholly different from combustion.
Kevin Sanchez
But Carol is the biggest Mar-Vell fan there is. Because he genocided these alien dudes just like she wanted to.
Luke Williams
Because branding and availability.
Landon Powell
>If you like Mar-Vell more than Carol you're a sexist. >If you don't like our new characters you're a sexist and probably racist. >If you prefer Miss instead of Ms. you're somehow sexist.
Notice how Kamalah gets a look of disgust the moment Mar-Vell shows up.
Wyatt Rogers
I should clarify, I'm not the autist who is bothered by Carol's flaming hair, but pls.
Kevin Adams
The current comics already have most of that down, you realize. Alcoholic shouldn't even be on the list. It was one story arc.
Thomas Turner
what did you think of the rest of that story's plot?
Oliver Ross
And her Binary powers are star-based, so what's the problem?
Cooper Allen
It's funny they say that when Dr. Strange and Iron Man have a similar origins as well.
Dylan Martin
And do you not think that, aside from artistic flair, her Binary powers couldn't provide her with such fire?
What is the point of being upset about a fictitious character's powers and abilities when even at their bare minimum already shatter the laws of physics?
Robert Bailey
They were bland except for that last fan fiction she read about the guy who saved her, that one was legitimately funny.
Oliver Torres
less bitching, more Carol killing things
Bentley Gomez
>Why does Marvel Studios want to make their literal-who character Captain Marvel super popular >Why would they want to link the words "Captain Marvel" a blonde girl to fuck with DC who now has to write a movie about their own character without being able to refer to him by name.
Jose Nelson
You realize that if this is the impression you got you probably are, right? The fuck do you even know or care about Mar-vell other than "he's not the girl, so he's better"? Waid's a genuine Marvfag, fuck outta here fame.
Easton Campbell
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David Ramirez
I still don't see what they can do with a Carol film. I mean, I can't think of a single memorable villain or story they can adapt for a feature film. And for god's sakes, they better not make Kamala a side character. I love Kamala, but making her a second banana to Carol is just wrong.
Jayden Wright
>almost a decade of Marvel constantly pushing SJW shit >Whor using Absorbing Man as a snowman for evil meninists who don't support stronk womens >"No but this time it's not serious"
No.
Jaxon Clark
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Joseph Hughes
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Lincoln Robinson
one of those 2 is a comedy book
Eli Morris
While that's true, I'm not sure that pure spite is a good reason to make a movie.
Julian Thomas
A movie that has to introduce an entirely other hero just to explain how this hero came to be, I can understand it. The Green Lantern thing is a bullshit excuse. And that a writer couldn't write a better excuse than that worries me more than anything. It's really what they should have said. It's too much of what is ultimately pointless background when the person we're doing a movie about is Carol Danvers and not Mar Vell. It seems pretty simple and straight forward to me at least. The only reason you say the origin is similar to the Green Lantern is because what you were writing was similar to the Green Lantern and it seemed like a bad idea to continue on that route (because yea, it is). But just admit that.