Nonsense

Is this really a contradiction?

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they've been around for a while now

pic related, best example

i dont get it

I think it's, in theory, possible to have a down to earth show that's swarming with magic robots, but I believe the "off the wall" bit implies a degree of zaniness that contradicts "down to earth."

realistic simply means that the characters resemble real people more so than plot devices or antagonist beaters
down to earth means that the characters resemble people who would watch that show
so for shows like gossip girl is down to earth because the target audience is girls of that specific age who act in that specific way
big bang theory isn't down to earth because 1. it's not realistic and 2. the people who watch that show aren't the kind of people it portrays

So a show about magic robots can be realistic if the character interactions are decent and their motivations aren't weird
it could even be down to earth depending on how they booked it

Not at all. If that was true over half of entertainment media wouldn't exist. We wouldn't have The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones etc

No. the characters can still be realistic and down to earth even if the setting isn't.

It's called willing suspention of disbelief

>1. it's not realistic
If that's true than why does everyone say I'm just like Sheldon?

There's someone on Sup Forums who has a fetish for women destroying the environment

Not that I expect you to get that either. I sure as hell don't

No

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That tweet really pissed me off

Shows that they don't respect the setting at all and proves it's nothing more than a tool to make money to them

>down to earth means that the characters resemble people who would watch that show
>it could even be down to earth depending on how they booked it

How do you book a show to reach the magic robot demographic?

any good anime ever made?

because you're autistic as hell and you crave cock, duh

>create setting with magic robots
>think "what if magic robots actually existed in real life, what would things be like"
>write story that has realisticly behaving characters and consistent internal logic, while still having components that don't exist in real life

FLCL

As if this didn't exist

Focusing more on what your characters are rather than who they are is exactly the opposite of what you want to do to have a "down to earth" show.

Well if the actors were portraying well off millennials attending a prestigious academy for the construction, design, and research of magical robots (basically similar to SyFy's, the magicians) having a bunch of side plots about the intricacies of open relationships and the struggles that many young adults face in regards to how to figure out what your life will be like from that point on
But if the actors more resembled those of BBC's Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, the stories could be more about the struggles of providing for your family and balancing social and work lives
It's not "easy", but it's far from impossible

I think video game developers are more guilty of this that anyone else- but it seems like some writers resent the idea of in-universe logic

i think the best example of "realistic, down to earth and off the wall, swarming with magic robots" is in movies like District 9.

it's not about the elements that are in the story but the presentation, we see a wider scope of social repercussions and the premise that life has to go on despite or in spite of the fantastic, crazy things going on.

it doesn't really trivialize them.

>anime
>good
Nice try, but we all know japanese writers are the most convoluted hacks on the planet.

What's realistic and down to earth in it?
All I can think of is that it references lots of things people know in real life like shows or bands or actors.

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FCLC?

Or they just don't keep track of what's "in universe" or not.

>Magic exists so my world doesn't need to be internally consistent
The mark of a lazy writer

Real people with real stories in a fantastical setting

I think its mainly the "completely off the wall" part that contradicts "realistic, down to earth".

The emotional development the characters go through (especially Dean). Hank being a romantic. Dr Ms The Monarch and The Monarchs relationship. The list kinda goes on. Point is, these are realistic relatable problems told in fantastic and insane ways.

Would Walking Dead and Game of Thrones really be considered "down to earth" though?

>we all know japanese writers are the most convoluted hacks on the planet.

You must really loved Season 2 of Gravity Falls or post movie spongebob, amirite nigga?

Characters react logically to situations, even if those situations are fantastical. Actions have reasonable consequences. There's a clear cause and effect between things. The fantastical elements in both series are consistent. Things don't just happen for the sake of happening, they happen because it makes sense for them to happen within the context of the setting.

I'd say all that means they count as down to earth.

I dunno. Walking Dead's characters felt more b-movie-ish to me.

Season 2 of Gravity Falls was actually good in its first half, and hit and miss in the second. I wouldn't put in the same league as zombie spongebob.

Kinda. Though I always remember that scene in s2 of the show where Shane is trapped in a bus surrounded by zombies and slowly kills them all off by spearing them through a window. Those sort of tactics aren't normally seen in b movies.

What if the world has "magic" and actual genuine magic, where the first has rules and limitations like science, and real magic is this super rare "no fuck you" power that can do anything because the whole point of magic is the power to make the miraculous reality?

but the girl with the katana folded over a thousand times of glorious nippon steel though.

It has the inherent problem with any reality warper, where logically nothing in-story should be able to defeat them because they can just change the outcome.

You can have magic like that, just don't suddenly pull it out of no where to solve plot problems. Deus ex machina and all that.

I always invoke the Tom Bombadil clause for god power characters, they're too silly and uninterested in the larger conflict to be part of it.

A lot of situations in GoT actually feel like they happen specifically to setup someone getting killed, though.

In GoT characters typically die when they "stop playing the game" Ned Stark went out of his way to go against the Lannisters and told them he was going to tell everyone their secret TO THEIR FACE. It shouldn't have shocked anyone they'd have him killed (though I was). Same kind of thing with the Red Wedding and pretty much through the show. Jon can be the only exception and we all know how that panned out for him.

To elaborate on my post here , I think that it's just logical that if a character has the power to rewrite reality to whatever they wish, and there's still big problems in the world, then that character isn't interested in solving things. I mean you could literally just ask that character "hey could you make it so the evil empire never existed?" and he could do it if he gave a shit.

Everyone should have known Ned would die just from the fact he was played by Sean Bean

It perfectly describes Regular Show to me.

Eh, Regular Show's characters are too sitcom-like, IMO. Then again, I never watched past season 2.

I always thought this was a meta-joke. The Simpsons at that time was all about realistic and down to Earth plotlines that featured utterly ludicrous jokes and scenarios.

FLCL is non stop retardation though. With 2deep4u symbolism about penis thrown in. Not down to earth at all.

A being with such power doesn't have place of relevance in any plot other than the subject of following, religious or otherwise, IMO; no 4 dimentional time-travelling hypersphere is going to come down to flatland just to tell the inhabitants how inferior and worthless they are to him and has no interest in fixing or crating any problems whatssoever inside that plane of existence.

They depict a really bizarre setting in a realistic fashion. They show you the more mundane and bureaucratic sides of the lives of supervillains. It's also a pretty common gag to treat the more wacky things as superfluous and inefficient. For example the moment when Billy shoots his hookshot hand only to point out that it can't support someone climbing it since it's still attached to him, and it has issues reeling back in.

Idk I wouldn't find me using my friends to make up random reporter or mugger scenarios to impress a chick relatable.

Nor a relationship with someone as singleminded and insane as Monarch

Then again I have no love life so I shouldn't be finding most TV versions of relationships relatable.

>that montage at the beginning of the prawns conflicting with the locals
definitely one of the more unique takes on alien contact

That part with Hank was more ridiculous but relatable rather than based in reality. The relationship dynamic with the monarch and DrMtM is very honest and realistic. Man is defined by his career (ie fuck with rusty) wife is
driven and highly successful.


also, hang in there buddy.

Depends what you mean by "realistic".

What's more, she took it off a neighbour kid. Think about that. What suburbanite owns an honest to God katana and not some shitty dollar store knock-off

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Down to earth doesn't just mean the characters are portrayed realistically. It also refers to the tone and rules of the setting so they can feel like they belong there, to allow the audience to take it seriously. Otherwise it'll feel like a setup for a joke, or a b-movie/soap opera that lacks self-awareness.

That tweet was in response to the kid in the fridge, right? But I don't think ghouls need to drink or eat. Or at least nobody complained about them not doing that in Fallout 3 or New Vegas. How many ghouls do you find locked in a room by themselves? They've been there centuries, but didn't have access to food or water. Feral or not, a kid being locked in a fridge isn't much different.

Now, how he didn't go batshit insane is another issue altogether. Pretty sure he should have been blind after 200 years in the dark as well.

No. Some aspects of a show can be realistic, others crazy. Old Simpsons used to be like that: they were a normal family with a believable dynamic that had crazy shit happen to them. Doremi is a good example: magical girls parallel to very serious and realistic problems that children and families face.

Simpsons family were only truly realistically written in the first couple seasons. They became more caricature-ish by season 4.

It's believable in context. The boys are transitioning from Hanna-Barbera shit to the real life albeit slowly. A fake mugger scenario is what seems normal to Dean. Now what's Billy's and Pete's excuse for going along with it instead of telling him that that's not how you impress normal girls is unknown.

You've never had your buddies prop you up as a more impressive person than you really are to help you get in good with an attractive woman?

Personally I think the problem with "Realistic down to earth" is that it's mutated to mean cynical and kind of shitty people.

Thats because most people in the real world today are cynical and kind of shitty.

See, I'm not implicitly against outlandish things happening in Fallout, because Fallout has always had some pretty ludicrous things in it. Like a fucking mini-nuke Launcher, or shit like Mirelurks and even Super Mutants.
What's important is the tone that the stuff is presented in. I haven't played FO4, so I can't really comment on the tone of the game. I do think a child surviving in a fridge for however fucking long is a bit out there, but if it's presented in the right fashion I think it's workable.

>Hussie is japanese
got it

I like it because of how hilariously ludicrous it was, but like somewhat explained, it was presented pretty poorly. Yes, it's possible that the kid could survive like that, but I don't think he's just going to politely request your assistance after spending 200 years locked in a fridge. And with all the people roaming the wastes, you'd think someone else would have found him already in that long period of time.

It's also funny because in Fallout: NV if you have Wild Wasteland on you can find Indiana Jones corpse in a fridge.

That doesn't necessarily mean that it isn't any less "realistic" then a person that is neither of those things though.

Buddy, you're on Sup Forums. The majority of people here have never "gotten in good" with any woman, attractive or otherwise.

People who are mostly neither do exist, but even they will have their moments. If you have characters that are 100% neither, its no longer realistic, and more appears idealistic.

Realistic is not reality. Pic fucking related.

Did you rike it?

Anime usually nails it more than cartoons.

Fooly Cooly for example.

Yes, stop being a contrarian.

0080 is the only valid example from all of Gundam. The Newtype stuff turned far too many characters into fucking wacky messiah super beings in almost every other UC entry.

This.

Nigga, fuck Bethesda.

My dream show described, I was actually thinking about posting the exact same image.

I would watch it religiously.

the characters are pretty down to earth

No, not at all.

I think what people want is people reacting and acting in a realistic, down to earth way, in fantastic settings. Being human, making mistakes, getting afraid, struggling with interpersonal relationships and the weight of duty and their choices etc. while also managing in this crazy world.

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Isn't that just Regular Show?

Assuming you count Father Time, The Phone Guardians, Doomageddon, and the cast of "The Last Laserdisc" as magic robots, among others.

Holy shit you are legitimately delusional or you're one of thos faggots who th8nks "good qualities a show can have? Of courelse my favorite show has them, its literally perfect after all"

SLICE OF LIFE is the most overrated boring genre of entertainment ever.

inb4 muh seinfeld

>0800 War In the Pocket is the only good Gundam because Newtypes are dumb.

Mon Homme.
Although I really like MS 08th for it's gritty aesthetic. The EZ-8 Custom Ground Type remains one of my favorite MSs, because V-fins are for idiots.

Don't click on this pic; it'll make you real sad.

Zeta and Victory are pretty fun to watch.
0079 is overrated and ZZ is the worst shit.

Never got the love for that.

The only character who fits that mold in the original show gets killed by a beam saber taking a blow for her captain.

Pete Hines isn't even a dev though.

i wish people would stop trying to summon deforestanon in every thread

Of course there's no middle ground. You're either kooky quirky ironic and self aware ultra comedy or you're super dark and gritty and realistic.

The crazy fantasy stuff is more fun if it is placed in an otherwise believable world. So not really.

>Like a fucking mini-nuke Launcher
Those are real things, you know

The only discrepancy is that the ones in Fallout can't level a city

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Regular Show is hardly what I'd call down to earth.

me too, th8nks.

My guess is that he spent the better part of the 200 years in a coma from a shockwave or something. To his knowledge he might have only been in there for a few days when you find him, which is why he is so suprised to see the world destroyed.

Battle Star Galactica (2004) literally had magic robots.