APOLOGIZE

APOLOGIZE

for what?

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for setting up a complete disaster of a trilogy? Seriously where do you go from TFA? There was no way to redeem that garbage

He's to blame for this mess. It's not like this movie didn't build up on his pile of shit in the first place

It all belongs in the trash.
Let George take over.
Corny melodrama > quip cringefest

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It's his fault.

How could anyone make a good film with characters like Rey and Finn?

no. part of the problem with tlj is that the set up from tfa was shit.

It's his fault for building up mysteries that not only had no answers thought up but weren't even interesting in the first place.

Rey was supposed to be the twin sister of Kylo Ren.

Snoke was supposed to be Plagueis

>s. It's not like this movie didn't build up on his pile of shit in the first place

It actually didn't. Rian "Green Soy Milk" Johnson abandoned everything JJ set up.

Apologize for what? You and KK are the ones who shoved this script down spineless Johnson’s throat. How hard would it have been for Leia to have a tasteful death?

There are a bunch of kikes trying to spin this trilogy's failure on Rian Johnson, this piece of shit and hus mystery box killed the franchise with episode 7

He was the reckoning of things to come.

Seriously, what did TLJ even achieve? It just killed beloved characters(not even for retarded shock value, just because I guess), made them look like cunts to begin with then ended by refusing to resolve any of the mystery presented in TFA, god this film actually infuriates me.

Not sure why people are saying its his fault when Disney was always pressuring him to play it safe for the first movie of the new trilogy in the first place.

If anything, it's more or less Rian Johnson's fault for completely fucking failing in the writing department, and completely failing to deliver on what remaining interesting plot holes JJ left open in TFA. Examples being: who is Snoke, who are Rey's parents, the whole flashback with the Knights of Ren at the jedi academy (which now looks like its been fucking retconned in TLJ) and so on.

At least Han and Leia in TFA still felt like the Han and Leia of the old trilogy. Can't say the same for Luke when it comes to TLJ.

>what did TLJ even achieve? It just killed beloved characters(not even for retarded shock value, just because I guess), made them look like cunts to begin with then ended by refusing to resolve any of the mystery presented
Sounds exactly like TFA

>republic is dead, empire is back
>han is a smuggler
>luke runs away and the jedi are no more
JJ's set up of undoing everything accomplished in the originals is part of the problem

He deserves a paddling for Lost, Star Trek and Star Wars

Rian had free reign, shills. It's why this movie undid everything JJ set up. Not that it was good, but it was something, at least. TLJ gave us nothing.

>jj abandons everything lucas set up
>rian abandons everything jj set up
pottery?

Nope.

>luke runs away and the jedi are no more

This is false. Luke was on that planet looking Jedi lore to help him stop Snoke. The entire plot of TFA was the map HE left behind. Why would he do this if he was just there to die?

>Finn
Is actually one of the more likable characters in the new trilogy. You could make him into a force-sensitive user who decides not to become a jedi, like Leia. Or have him rise to the ranks of becoming a resistance admiral or commander.

>Rey
Dropping the Mary Sue shit by making her switch places with Kylo Ren, for one thing.

Disney is so absolutely retarded. They could have just looked at the EU for a sense of WHERE to take the story line while not being absolutely beholden to it.

Instead they just dumped it and came up with absolutely nothing compelling as an alternative.

They could have paid a focus group of fanboys $20 a head to at least keep them tethered to the core of the franchise at what works.

This. Fuck JJ.

Han stayed in character. Leia stayed in character. We were introduce to whole new circumstances in the galaxy.

In the meanwhile, TLJ:
>Nothing happens.
>Luke is not Luke.
>Leia does stupid shit.

>republic is dead, empire is back]
Agreed, this was stupid.
>han is a smuggler
Makes sense after the fallout with Leia and their son becoming a sith and all
>luke runs away and the jedi are no more
No, TFA implied that Luke intentionally went MIA to protect himself, while providing and maintaining a suitable training ground for the next chosen one. Why would he even leave a map behind if that wasn't the case?

A decent director would have walked out. I mean these guys pretend to be absolute star wars fans but they had no problems butchering the beloved characters just because some Disney execs wants them to

Just when you thought he was that bad, they managed to outdo him.

>training ground for the next chosen one
turning luke into just another obi-wan is a dumb move, it basically makes him a caretaker jedi

Well, he walked out after TFA. That already says something.

Agreed, but that was the setup and even then Rain still managed to further fuck over Luke's characterization.

Who is this and why does he look like he eats a lot of soy?

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He didn't walk out, they either fired him or it was the plan from day one, he would only make the first movie because he was reluctant to do it. He said he wanted to take vacations with his family after Star Trek. Spielberg dragged him to make Star Wars, I hate spielberg for destroying his old friend franchise like this

What kind of nose is that?

but he's back for IX

...

This cunt should not be a film director.

A fanboy? Cinephile? Sure. But he's never had an decent, original idea enter his head.

Go die in a chemical fire you fucking hack.

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That's what Disney did. Instead of Luke founding the New Jedi Order they had to axe him and make him a failure so Mary Sue can found the New New Jedi Order for grrrlll power.

he should

>everything JJ set up
>"I was expecting to have a story board up on the wall with JJ's vision, but when I walked in for TLJ there was nothing"

TFA is the same shit. Just better presented.

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ASPHYXIATE

JJ set the stage for this movie with his mystery box shit.

A film taking risks has a right to be bad.

A film that's safe has no excuse being bad.

>Luke was on that planet looking Jedi lore to help him stop Snoke.
>The entire plot of TFA was the map HE left behind.
>Why would he do this if he was just there to die?
No, the entire plot was everyone trying to find Luke because he was hiding due to being a failure in the first place. Not once it was mentioned in the movie that Luke was trying to find a solution to stop Snoke because Luke never spoke, so you're full of shit.

Sorry you DIDN'T MAKE LUKE INTO AN OP JEDI MASTER WHEN YOU HAD THE CHANCE YOU FAGGOT

I'm not defending Rian's TLJ but JJ Abrams doomed the franchise with 7. It's his fault if the movie starts right after the end of 7, because it ends on a cliffhanger and they could skip that part where Rey meets Luke for the first time. And Luke is already a loser who abandonned his friends, Leia is a stupid general, Snoke and Rey came out of nowhere.

>Han stayed in character. Leia stayed in character
neither Luke or han stayed in characters in TFA. Han Solo is a deadbeat father who returned to smuggling shit after ROTJ, wtf. Leia is an old cunt who divorced and this she's a man. Luke is a quitter who turned his back on all his friend and the galaxy. That's not our heroes.

This. JJ completely blew it by making the foundations of the new trilogy rehashed garbage with boring characters you're only supposed to care about due to their sex or race. TFA is the true train wreck film. It does nothing but shit on OT while also limiting the scope of the universe to the most boring cast you can possibly imagine. None of Lucas' imagination that made SW is present. It's just any film but with a Star Wars setting.

And what about the map you fucking brainlet?

And that's an excuse to rape Luke's character? To kill Snoke without even giving us a back story? To retcon the Knights of Ren?

When did I say that?

I was just memeing that JJ didn't set up shit

Supposed to be? According to what? Some fuckwit nerd on Jewtube?

The whole "finding the map" plot got fucking dropped for the Rebels vs Empire bullshit that JJ wanted. The plot changes when Han is introduced and Kylo goes after Rey because muh force. Also doesn't make sense that in the first five minutes Kylo Ren kills the old guy who has any chance of finding Luke or the map.

He's a genius