>people actually think filoni's ending the show on his own terms and didn't just get HIRSCH'd
Benjamin Nelson
They should've made his species more interesting looking
Wyatt Baker
>yfw delphidians are literally black
Luis Long
Do you miss me yet
Matthew Garcia
...
Dylan Harris
No, theres still room in my head canon.
Andrew Barnes
>tfw Hayden won't be in TLJ
Aiden Bennett
number 1 reason I thank the mouse for the canon purge
Evan Kelly
>This feel is unconfirmed
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Daniel Morris
Believe in Rian.
Brayden Russell
I'm fine so long as yoda is out as well.
Noah Sanchez
I really want this just so they'll acknowledge the prequels in some aspect. TFA just copied off the 4th Chapter like the prequels never even happened. It's just displaying the shallow aspects of the series "Look, X-wings and tie fighters! Buy those toys for your kids!"
On a more personal note I've meet Hayden through work and he's honestly one of the coolest, friendliest actors you'll ever meet. He's a great guy and I think his performance and contribution to the Star Wars universe needs some acknowledgement.
Levi Thomas
Why are they so few Luke-centric comics post ROTJ
Leo Harris
Force God
Matthew Richardson
>The girl has no patience, and refuses to see my reason >Was I not the same when you tried to redeem me?
>Who is this white male? >I am his father *ominous music* >Luke is more suicidal now, twisted and depressed >Serves him right for talking back to me >We are both products of the Jedi teachings and - >Da bloody hell would anyone want to be a Jedi and stop mansplaining me you white Naz-Imperial scum
John Barnes
I think they're waiting for ST to end before doing a lot of that.
Evan Parker
Anyone got any dumb/fun ideas for stories in the Star Wars Universe?
Oliver Watson
>Identity politics
Oh wow you're so egdy
Austin Collins
DAVE FILONI'S NEW JEDI ORDER CONFIRMED
THRAWN VONG HYPE
Robert Lewis
Hell no. You're one of the things I'm glad is gone.
Dylan Jackson
I dislike tumblr
Brayden Cooper
What else is new?
Ryder Cook
The Solo Legacy book was better
Jeremiah Barnes
>Battle Droid becomes sentient >Develops weird fascination for the Jedi >Eventually wants to become a Jedi >Tries really hard to connect with the force >Gets made fun of by supporting characters >Heroic sacrifice >Much crying is had >I get all your money now
Dice really seem to be trying with this one honestly, this is a good sign
Christopher Gonzalez
I thought it was funny Maybe I'm retarded
Jaxson Sanders
They're just irl Sup Forums shitposters.
Samuel Nguyen
>penned by Spec Ops: The Line writer Walt Williams
That gives me hope. I know Spec Ops: The Line had mixed reactions but you have to admit the writing and attention to detail were thought out better than most games are.
Nathan Wood
That test was bullshit even if you agreed with them. It's about as silly as every other test.
Adrian Adams
Its definitely one of the best written shooters out there, hopefully he can recapture that without leaning too hard on Heart of Darkness
Chase Jones
>characters with 3 films worth of characterisation vs a character with a single film worth of characterisation Wow RLM, really BTFO of the prequels
Eli Perry
>between AotC and RotS >Pirates on the edge of the republic storm a diplomats ship >Steal all the shit, grab the senator on board for ransoms and giggles >Republic ships come to the rescue >Pirates escape to uncharted space with ship damaged >Crash land on uncharted world >The ship's fucked, they search for food >Find signs of intelligent life >Find a primative village, attack them and take their shit >Pirates discover that they're on a world with a medieval-tier civ >They start conquering shit with their advanced weaponry >Locals have a caste of mystics with basic understanding of the Force >Senator disgusted with the pirates, manages to escape to try and form a resistance >Recognises the connection between the mystics and the force >Years pass, Pirates establish dominance >Senator has taught the mystics and resistance about the Republic, plan to use their force powers to contact the Jedi >Pirates begin to fight among themselves as the ammunition which holds their power is running low >Mystics sense a presence from the direction the Senator told them Coruscant was >Resistance launch attacks against pirates and their supporters, smelling weaknesses in their division >Pirates fight back, gain advantage, hope for resistance looks lost >Suddenly, ships pull out of hyperspace >Senator spots clone troopers, all is saved >lolno, didn't you hear? We Empire now
Andrew Green
>>Describe Qui-Gon without mentioning his occupation or appearance Father Figure literally the entire point of his character was to be dadcore friesian.com/starwars.htm
Angel Stewart
The funny part is that Han Solo is actually a really stereotypical character. >rogue with a heart of gold who's heart of gold wins out Qui-Gon is more nuanced, if anything. He's a Jedi master who's not afraid to mind trick people and rig bets (chance cube) in order to do what he thinks is the will of the force.
Eli Sullivan
Yeah, Qui-Gon is pretty based.
Brayden Long
>spec ops the line >good writing >more shameless rehash of Joseph Conrad than TFA was of ANH its writing was a colossal fuck up because the total lack of agency in that fucking railroad of a shooter sort of ruins the whole game, I don't know where you guys are coming from with this "oh it shows the horrors of war this means its good" just because it literally forces you to go against your nature and be evil in order to progress unless you find the unbelievably pretentious message of "the only winning move is not to play" artistic
Dominic Perry
It works as a meta-commentary on shooters in general, considering how that entire subset of games are some of the most railroaded out there Plus if you want to talk rehashes, so was Apocalypse Now, doesn't mean its less impactful
Kayden Roberts
Oh fuck off, not every game should carve the story out to your desires.
The game is about the horrors of war, and while the player couldn't avoid it, it did a spectacular job of hiding it's lack of choice.
Andrew Morales
I see it less as a commentary on the horrors of war and more of a metacommentary on shooters and violent games in general.
Adam Butler
I want Hayden in by the third movie. Like say Kylo continues down the path to the dark side and starts connecting more with the force in general. They visit a planet that is steeped in the force and he actually gets to meet his grandfather.
>go out of character to kill innocents or you can't finish the game in spite of there being a million plausible options to continue but the mechanics simply don't let you wow true kino Benedict Cumberbatch does it again gotyay
Joshua Sanders
John Knoll is comfy.
Camden Anderson
>blue screen
B-but the original trilogy was 100% practical effects! The prequels were the ones that used absolutely zero real effects!
Jordan Richardson
they weren't done with the space prop don't worry
Gavin Roberts
>story takes place in between ROTS and ANH >journalist is sent to cover a planetary uprising >story is basically all of his own personal notse, and not the heavily edited Imperial propaganda version >follows a company of Stormtroopers as they fight to put down the local resistance >includes private interviews with Stormtroopers, who give their honest opinions about the whole thing, and about how they have to reconcile with all the horrible things they've done in the name of peace and order >basically a war documentary that humanizes the Imperial grunts
Ethan Gutierrez
You're talking about the white phosphorous scene? You had no idea and no way of knowing that there were civilians mixed in with the enemy at the gate, and as badass as your team is three guys can't storm a fortified position without softening it up first, and the only real tool to hand that could do the job was the mortar. It fucking sucks, but sometimes you have to make the call. That and what , its a meta commentary on shooters and violent video games, who routinely give you choice then take it away. Shit, Bioshock is one of the worst offenders yet it gets remembered as the game that made that mainstream Same, Kylo said it himself, he can't deny the truth that is family, and it would be a neat callback if he was to learn that he was lied to about his family history even after learning that his grandfather was Vader That and honestly Hayden deserves the rehabilitation, there's zero doubt in my mind he would have been remembered far more positively if he'd been given the kind of material Lanter was working with on TCW
Juan Carter
I would love that, especially if there was like a special feature or extra chapter or something that was basically the sanitized Imperial approved version of the raw reality you read before
Nolan Fisher
Post EU post-ROTJ books that are more entertaining than TFA.
Evan Hughes
>if he'd been given the kind of material Lanter was working with on TCW worst meme PT writing>TCW writing for example...
A while back someone posted that TCW webm that shows the force priestess explaining to Yoda about how dead people get recycled into the force, and it was fairly long winded.
In ROTS, Yoda tells Anakin the very same thing, he's just more concise. >Rejoice for those around you *who transform into the force*. Mourn them do not, miss them do not.
BUT one user said yesterday that based on the TCW webm that TCW "added more mysticism to the force than anything since ESB".
I've seen other people say similar things over the years.
So my question is- why do people straight up deny and warp the PT to fit their weird narrative about TCW being better than the PT?
Because I would argue that the ROTS scene is more subtly written than the TCW scene.
Robert Hill
>game tries to be art and a movie >fails at all three It's good you bring up Bioshrek Inthebutt because they're the exact same terrible fucking game with a different veneer. I suppose BF2 has a better chance though considering that literal retard Ken Levine is not involved.
Jayden Smith
Anything involving Clankers usually gets my attention >Just fire right there
Benjamin Sanchez
You first.
Gabriel Hill
Here, have 3.
Jose Bennett
>yfw Terry Dodson drawing preggo Leia
Isaiah Sullivan
PT writing was wooden and clunky to the point of being insufferable, not at all helped by the fact that Hayden was blatantly not getting the help he needed from Lucas on how to act in his scenes
As for Force mysticism, explaining how the dead become one with the cosmic Force is a lot more mystical and engaging than Yoda's generic "the dead don't leave you so long as you remember them" thing
Joseph Butler
All OT characters are pretty basic and one-dimensional. The reason people praise them is solid (or rather, clearly conveyed) character development for Luke (Han and Leia are set in stone, in terms of character growth after ANH - the only thing that keeps them going is the fling - sorry, I mean romance) and likability/relatability. They are plucky characters played by charismatic actors with entertaining dialogue. That's all to them.
Anakin, with his psychological and emotional issues, Obi-Wan, the man torn between adherence to authority and order and his own humanity, and Padmé, an idealist and believer in the system caught who ironically couldn't see beyond her subjective perspective of the world and got caught in events beyond her control, are far more flawed and nuanced characters in comparison. But the writing is stilted and George can't lead actors, so people didn't connect with them like with the OT3. That's where the undeserved shitflinging comes from.
For the record, I also think that Rey and Kylo are better than their equivalent in the OT, at least, even though so far they were put through the same ordeals Luke went through, instead of anything unique to them personally. Rey has more in terms of personal conflict, with the detatchment and avoidance of reality as well the deep scarring the childhood trauma inflicted on her. Luke's challenge in ANH was external - having to learn to handle himself, to embrace the Force, while Rey's is internal in overcoming her own demons. I find that arc to be more interesting, personally.
The lesson to learn from all that is that the general audience doesn't give a shit if a character is complex. They just want them to be "likable". See also: people criticising Rogue One for having no interesting characters.
Jack Garcia
>Maybe she bails out on the First Order once Snoke takes over and turns them into fanatics. This is something that I'd like to see, honestly. It could make sense of the clip from the trailer of a ground battle happening on Starkiller Base. Inferno Squad up and rebels against the FO while there and fucks shit up, leading to their demise or something.
Kevin Parker
Rogue One had plenty of interesting and likeable characters. But they all die within an hour of their appearance so who cares.
Kevin Thompson
Who's talking about Infinite? I was referring to the original, which when you break it down treats choice and player agency even worse than The Line while disguising it as philosophical wank. At least Spec Ops was honest about unapologetic about showing you the horror of the power fantasy you signed up for
Levi Nguyen
>is a lot more mystical and engaging than Yoda's generic "the dead don't leave you so long as you remember them" thing Yikes. I vehemently disagree. They say the same thing, one is just more long winded and poorly done.
>generic What?
Owen Walker
Oh, I assumed you were talking about BSI, because the first two bioshocks were actually good games AND stories.
Christian Robinson
>But the writing is stilted and George can't lead actors, so people didn't connect with them like with the OT3. As a kid I found the PT to be more human and the acting felt better to me.
Bentley Hernandez
>the OT wasn't filmed in actual space DROPPED
Josiah Miller
I didn't like that the force protected/or he was force sensitive too Baz to walk straight into a sniper nest is that what happened?
Blake Young
In 2009, Cracked wrote an article about five ways the EU ruined the Star Wars original trilogy, and one of the reasons was "they completely undid the Rebels' accomplishments in Return of the Jedi."
Gee, it's a good thing that never happened in canon, right?
Jose Flores
the set is in space but it didnt look good enough
Gabriel Martinez
If I haven't read it, is it so good it should still be read despite not being canon?
Aaron Martinez
They really don't, what Yoda says is no different from the stuff a lot of people tell you after someone dies "they they aren't dead as long as their name is spoken" or "don't mourn them as they live on in your memories", all that kind of crap you get from people The Force priestesses explaining that no, really, people don't actually fucking die they just get cosmically recycled and here's proof is a lot more mystical and mythical
Adam Gomez
Neither was the moon landing :^)
Nolan Allen
What are you talking about? Is thirty years of peace and redevelopment not good enough for you or something? Just because the First Order exists doesn't mean the Rebels somehow lost, it just means there's a continuity state of the Empire, which was a big thing in the old EU anyway And Luke failed because he tried to recreate a system that had already failed, and frankly its his own damn fault for keeping something like that from his nephew. If he'd told Kylo while he was a kid things would have been much better
Leo Cox
Absolutely, some of the best material the franchise has ever produced.
Adrian James
>people don't actually fucking die they just get cosmically recycled That's what Yoda tells Anakin. You're trying your hardest to diminish that fact. He TELLS him that they transform into the force.
Nolan Wright
Everybody does.
Hunter Watson
I prefer the classic pulpy covers.
Camden Gutierrez
>a guy shooting lasers out of his fingers Alright.
Isaac Edwards
What do you want Filoni's next series to be about?
Asher Turner
A series set between ESB and RotJ would be neat
Jeremiah Collins
the silent suffering of a gonk droid with no legs
Logan Miller
I never said he didn't tell him that, I'm talking about the way its presented and written. In the scene with Yoda and Anakin it comes off as an attempt to help Anakin come to terms with the inevitability of death even when it affects those close to you In the other its literal physical facets of the Force explaining that your soul is returned to the Cosmic Force at the end of your mortal existence. One is substantially more involved with the mythology of the Force than the other.
The central theme of "those who die never leave you" is the same, but the second one is presented as an actual fact not someone offering comfort
Adrian Martinez
I'd be up for something post-RotJ. Maybe focused on Kyle Katarn. Either that, or...OR...a series about Dash Rendar's adventures during the OT.
Christopher Rodriguez
The transition era between ROTJ and TFA. Its the most potential filled era in Star Wars and could help answer a lot of questions about what we missed as well as offering new opportunities.
Jack Rodriguez
Hardcore pornography
Leo Butler
He's offering comfort WITH an actual fact. There's something wrong with you mate.
Kevin Williams
Seeing Hayden made me happy
Ethan Parker
except in bioshock 1, it treated player agency as "oh nvm you were being mindcontrolled and just didn't know it"
How can anyone rip Spec Ops and not hate bioshock 1 more?
Hudson Hall
>cracked Well there's your first problem.
Luis Torres
Isn't Dash Rendar one of Pablo's most hated EU characters?
Justin Cooper
An actual fact that he offers no evidence for in that moment, and one that the audience didn't know about because said evidence hadn't been created at that moment in time To be brutally honest I think we've been arguing at cross purposes this entire time. Lets just fucking drop it