The Last Jedi was NOT shit

Just watched it this morning, and after the fact I realize that most of Sup Forums hasn't even seen the movie and are just memeing about how bad it was.

Luke's arc was fine, I hear a lot about how it was out of character for Luke to try to kill Ren, but this is just a moment of instinct, just that Kylo wakes up and Luke is still holding the lightsaber

Casino scenes were dumb but I liked Benicio's character

Snoke was fun when he was toying with Rey, and his death, although disappointing, was supposed to convey Kylo's burning of the past

Not going to give Disney too much credit but I hope he comes back in some form, I mean he has gashes in his head ffs

Kylo was amazing as usual, Rey a noncharacter as usual

As to the Poe-tumblrina conflict I feel sympathy was given to both sides and you could root for either(of course I go with Poe)

don't know how they'll deal with Leia in IX, I expect she'll die with in the opening scene or something

Cinematography was far better than TFA, liked the animu tumblina suicide and the lobster fight

Overall an interesting watch, I feel most of the hate comes from long time Star wars fans with deep seated feelings for Luke and the like, but unwarranted as Luke is definitely given a proper sendoff

So I thought it was a decent movie, maybe your opinion differs but if you just meme around about it I can't take that opinion seriously

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>Posting a favorable Last Jedi review on Sup Forums

It was good, I'm just fooling around.

I think the movie was a mess overall, but I still feel forced to defend it because of the awful complaints that are made in this board about it
>MUH LUKE HEADCANON WOULD NEVER DO THIS
>DURR LIGHT SPEED SHOULDN'T WORK LIKE THIS
Instead of criticizing the actual bad aspects of the movie, it's a nitpick fest.

My issue rests with everything not related to the Jedi/Sith. Also, Luke was pretty under utilised. He gave Rey one lesson, told her what happened between himself and Kylo, and fought Kylo as a hologram.

I agree with most of this but why am I the only one who doesn't hate Rey and think she is a noncharacter?
I mean she seemed genuinely conflicted throughout the movie. She learned that people aren't who your preconcieved notions tell you they are and this filled her with a hope that Kylo was just misunderstood. She ended up being partially right but their differences were irreconcilable.

Jesus Christ, that leddit spacing.

>going to the cinema in the morning

That's Sup Forums in general. Important criticisms get overshadowed by nitpicks and mindless bashing.

hated her in TFA, thought she was pretty great in TLJ
+ the sexual tension between her and Ren was the best stuff in the movie by far

No.

The Last Jedi was absolute garbage. With each passing day I get more and more disgusted with it.

Stopped reading at the title.
Yes it was.
Deal with it.

I almost never come to Sup Forums so I haven't got a clue what the memes are. But sure here we go.

Luke "throws away his lightsaber instead of killing Darth Vader" Skywalker debating killing Ben in his sleep? Fuck off, that's out of character. The plot could have easily had the situation play out different with the same end result but this gave us cheap momentary drama.

Casino scenes were dumb, Benicio was interesting, yeah.

Snoke and the aftermath was an interesting fake-out, but in a film loaded with fake-outs it lacks less of a punch.

Rey was a noncharacter yeah, but I'd hardly call Kylo "amazing" (unless you mean amazing at being the galaxy's largest pissbaby)

Poe repeatedly asked the General what her fucking plan was, and instead of just going "we're making our way to a Rebel Base that we can use to call for help" she went "Fuck you I don't have to explain shit" and got the mutiny that was coming to her.

I want a refund, I feel really ripped off

I enjoyed it more than I thought, nuch better than TFA and RO

Remove the chink and the casino bit, just have Finn and Poe tell Commander long neck bitch to fuck off and have them sneak aboard snokes ship using some other pretense

Also leia supermanning dat hoe was stupid, either kill her or remove that shit

The rest was good

Blame trash youtube channels like CinemaSins and YMS for making people think that's what movie criticism is

t. Disney Shill

there are complaints I find insane
particularly people who built up Snoke or Rey's parents to absurd levels

but a lot of stuff just seems like there wasn't much thought put into it

The Rey+solo fight against the red guards looked really neat but it was like, "why aren't these two force gods using their powers?"

And then the whole luke thing was genius in that you thought he was going to die for sure, a la 'Strike me down,' but then it was a trick. Then he dies anyways.
WTF

I'm sorry, you royally fuck up the death of Luke Skywalker, it doesn't matter. You're going to have a horde of people pissed at you.

>Casino scenes were dumb but I liked Benicio's character

Sucks that the Casino shit eats up a good portion of the first hour then.

>nit picks
>1.5 movies movies making Snoke the big bad only to be killed with a little trick

pls
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I'm going to be honest, I'm not a movie buff and I only come to Sup Forums to discuss the occasional recent film/television show, and even I'm aware enough to take those channels at face value.

>And then the whole luke thing was genius in that you thought he was going to die for sure, a la 'Strike me down,' but then it was a trick. Then he dies anyways.
WTF

>I'm sorry, you royally fuck up the death of Luke Skywalker, it doesn't matter. You're going to have a horde of people pissed at you.

Say what you want about the Luke shit, his death was handled perfectly, he died as the pacifist hero as he was before.

Heh, cya around kiddo

When did I say complaining about the Snoke death is a nitpick? I think it's a pretty subjective complaint, but not liking a major plot point isn't a nitpick.

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yes it was

man, this whole year has been full of shit movies with inexplicably high RT scores. thor, spiderman, guardians 2, wonderwoman... compared to those, The Last Jedi is honestly a fucking masterpiece. dunno why people are wasting so much energy on *this* boring hollywood movie when there's been so much worse this year alone

Casino wasn't in first hour

...

This

The Last Jedi is trash.

Just because there were other corporate movies that also sucked, doesn't mean that The Last Jedi sucked any less

I just woke up. Im so happy to see its back down to 56%.

Hang yourself shipfag

>proper sendoff
he died for no reason. NO REASON.

his death added NOTHING to the plot

It almost certainly will go into the 40s over the next few weeks. The backlash will be immense and dwarf the Prequel hate. There will be no Rian Johnson trilogy.

Wow so Rian Johnson is the Donald Trump of the Star Wars franchise? I love the guy even more now.

This.

Luke didn't actually have to die. And certainly not alone on rock like a dope-addled bum. It's heartbreaking in so many ways.

Good. I want disney wars to burn to the ground. I hated tfa and r1. Im glad so many people hate this one too.

Technically Obi Wan didn't 'have' to die in IV but I don't see you bitching about that.

Sadly money talks louder that reviews.

Wow, it's like I'm really on reddit.

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We didn't spend 3 movies getting to know obi-wan, fucko.

he knew he couldnt beat vader and he needed to stop vader so luke could escape

I liked it. But the opinion of an anonamong means nothing.

Sorry sweetie that was the 4th movie he was in. Learn to count hun.

Kill yourself kid

I enjoyed it as well and thought it was an improvement over TFA. Im genuinely excited for episode IX as I cant strongly predict whats going to happen. If they had pleased the fans and kept Snoke it would be obvious theyd do the same shit as VI and Rey would get Kylo back to the light side and the 2 of them would defeat le bad evil powerful Snoke together.

I agree with you. Ignore the retards here

>Luke is definitely given a proper sendoff
it must be sad to be you

>Sorry sweetie that was the 4th movie he was in. Learn to count hun.
If we're gonna do this, then it was actually the 5th movie he was in. Learn to count, you mongoloid.

nah you're wrong, it wasn't good, but it definitely sucked less than all of those. whatever, it's just people getting caught up in the explosion of sperg rage i guess

>le bad
Why post like a fucking queer? Kill yourelf trans filth.

Star Wars practically invented mass movie merchandising back in '77. How is Disney doing anything different?

Luke's death is a sacrifice to further motivate the remaining resistance as well as Leia and Rey to defeat the first order. Also i think it makes sense as having him being able to astral project himself like that across the entire galaxy, then be perfectly fine after would have all the autists complaining about why hadn't others used that in the past? In this it establishes it as something being incredibly energy draining that costs you your life. Kylo even directly mentions to Luke that "he'd be dead" if he was really doing it.

THANK YOU. Finally a non retard post.

How new are you?
>kill yourself trans filth
You dont need to try so hard to fit in user

what you said OP, had a ton of fun watching it

Of course it isn't shit if you analyze it from such a shallow point of view. The dialogue, themes, and humor of this movie are off-puttingly shallow, awkward, and underdeveloped. Try to explain to yourself what this movie is about and what its trying to convey, it is a mess to work out. Is this movie about Rey's training and development toward becoming a Jedi? No, the training arc is extremely short, Luke doesn't teach Rey anything besides seeking the force (which she apparently is already very adept at manipulating), and she surpasses him and overpowers him in mere days. Why bother setting up Luke to be this legendary hero who is capable of turning the tide for the Resistance when he is overpowered by a novice girl with no formal training whatsoever?
Or the "chase" through space, possibly the most boring, tension lacking chase ever to appear in a movie. Nearly 2 hours of the film are spent watching the Resistance crawl along in space as literally nothing happens. The rest of the time we get to enjoy Finn, Rose, and Poe's plan result in nothing. This whole scenario is just an insult to the viewer. Literally everything goes wrong for them and they try to execute the plan in the worst possible conditions with Del Toro's character (what the fuck was his name even?) and it just doesn't matter. They try to introduce a deeper idea of some sort of nihilistic element with Del Toro but don't even bother to challenge the hope theme, Finn just says "you're wrong" and it's done and over with without any explanation or justification.
This whole movie just refuses to carry through all the way on any idea and fails to provide any sense of consequence or sacrifice. The entire time you know it'll be just fine and you're just waiting to see how the writers are going to try to trick you with some shitty half assed non-twist. I could go on with more stupid shit in the story but there is simply too much,

>died in the chronological 4th movie
>retards post was about getting to know someone over 3 movies.
>claims 5
What did he mean by this?

I just got home from seeing it and it WAS shit.
Hot garbage. I had more fun watching the Dark Tower and it was fucking awful.
At least it had hip wigglin' hilarity.

I just wish death on all faggots and you come off as a huge faggot. No doubt youre one of those shipfags too.

I liked it. The bad doesn't out weigh the good.

Good post. It forces you to suspend so much disbelief. Oh and on the subject of Leia, greater more powerful Jedi have died from less.

>I just got home from seeing it and
You paid for it. You are part of the problem you dumb fuck

>Luke's death is a sacrifice to further motivate the remaining resistance as well as Leia and Rey to defeat the first order.
This is beyond retarded jesus fucking christ. Keep trying to defend this retarded decision, but it was stupid as fuck and completely avoidable.

This in no way enhances the plot or makes the motivation of the resistance more real. It's fucking stupid. This was probably Disney giving the middle finger to Hamill after he kept talking shit about them.

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Yes it does. I met someone today who thought it was the best Star Wars movie ever. He also thinks dreamworks movies are top cinima.

>I realize that most of Sup Forums hasn't even seen the movie and are just memeing about how bad it was.

So, your entire premise is based on an assumption you've invented?

The movie was abject fucking garbage and you should be broken on the wheel, castrated, disembowled and burnt to death for being such an insufferable cunt.

Did you read my entire comment... How else do you think they should have handled it??? He just astral projects himself across the galaxy then after he's fine. That would bring up a whole can of worms as to why this was never used previously by force users. So let me get this straight you think that it's pointless that a character died in sacrificing himself to save the remaining protagonists in the film and instead think it was done cause the studio was mad at the actor. To me it sounds like you're an irrational fanboy who is angry that muh Luke died.

now that i think about it, i don't really remember what were Finn and his team trying to achieve with their plan, were they trying to steal something? did they help somehow? for what i remember they tried to do some stuff, get caught and then tumblr girl kamikases herself into the first order's ship... i saw the film a few hours ago and i truly don't remember

>The movie was abject fucking garbage and you should be broken on the wheel, castrated, disembowled and burnt to death for being such an insufferable cunt.

You're being too easy. The Last Jedi makes The Last Knight look like The Last Picture Show.

And all the betas here apologizing for this dreck are setting a new record for daily soy intake.

he didn't know it was going to be that fucking bad

yes it was shit faggot

Holy shit you fucking the real complaint for the light speed shit is that it breaks all other movies

The cam rip has been out for a while, pretty sure weve all seen it.

>I feel most of the hate comes from long time Star wars fans with deep seated feelings for Luke
I feel youre wrong
Sup Forums wants a good star wars movie, one that can take its self seriously for at least 5 minutes at a time without the forced disney quips immediately after a serious moment.
Sup Forums wants to sit through a star wars movie without getting diversity and other poorly executed themes like income inequality shoehorned into the story. That casino "look at the slaves and save the cute animals" was highschool tier writing. I legitimately think it was bring your kid to work day and some 14 year old wrote every fin and rose scene

>Luke got a proper send off
>Be the chosen one
>Shadow clone jutusu!
>die anyway

Poe-tumblrina has no reason to exist. Characters ignored common sense turning it into a steaming pile of "why didnt x happen"

>Movie was supposed to convey burning of the past
Believe me, that much was clear to all of us

How about if he had gotten into a fucking spaceship after having that meetup with Yoda and go and actually be a fucking Jedi and help the rebels escape? That would have been much better and we would have gotten a master/student dynamic of Luke and Rei on ep9.

>So let me get this straight you think that it's pointless that a character died in sacrificing himself to save the remaining protagonists in the film
The way it was done was fucking stupid. There was no reason it needed to happen that way. It was poorly done. I'm not mad about Luke being a disillusioned Jedi master, and I'm not mad about him sacrificing himself. I'm mad because it was done in the most stupid and retarded way possible and was a complete disservice to his character and Star Wars fans.

4 fucking years and not a single Luke lightsaber fight. How the fuck can anyone defend that?

Decent well you have joined the haters then

You lack reading comprehension and the ability to follow posts

Everyone has been telling you for days now. You probably loved the last two. Kill yourself faggot

You have to watch this movie at least 10 times in IMAX before you are allowed to have an opinion on it. You might not like it but it's fricking STAR WARS, I mean come on.

It WAS shit, you're just a normie with shit for brains so it's perfect for you

Okay thanks for just admitting you're a raging fanboy that's mad he didn't get his epic master Jedi Luke lightsaber fight porn.

I liked TFA. Wasn't too crazy for Rogue One, though.

oh come on, you know you loved it. Chewbacca? Luke? LIGHTSABRES?

It's frighgin STAR WARS.

Pic related is OP

Like i said. Kill yourself faggot.

i love this movie just because liberals and obsessive star wars geeks seem to hate it

>normie
As are you youngfag

Obi Wan did have to die
He couldnt pull off the super awesome hologram thingy roflmao XDDD

Nice argument. Are you even a fan of the original trilogy? Lack of Luke kicking ass in lightsaber is only a part of why this was so stupid and retarded.

Good to know your argument is basically:
>m-muh p-plot was written t-this w-way. h-he h-had to s-save the r-rebels, there was n-no other w-way!

No. It's a sterile imitation from a money making machine that's trying to pretend its Star Wars. Even the prequels were more Star Wars than this new shit.

Literally kill yourself. You just revealed you don’t give a shit about SW so why are you on this board?

>t. plebeian

>Luke's arc was fine
delete your account

>No. It's a sterile imitation from a money making machine that's trying to pretend its Star Wars. Even the prequels were more Star Wars than this new shit.

Wrong. It's frickin STAR WARS. How can you not love htat?

Im loving how this movie is shaping up to be strong pleb filter. Unironically the movie isnt typical opiate of the masses type shit like episode 7 was and has deeper themes and subtleties that the movie doesnt spell out for fans.

>The Last Jedi was NOT shit

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God fucking damnit this. Oh and where was yoda when Luke is on the death star fighting for his life vs the 2 dark lords of the fucking Galaxy? Ghosts are powerful or not?

hola reddit

>liberals and obsessive star wars geeks
Everyone besides the shills hates it. conservatives, casuals and normalfags. All united in their hatred of the last jedi.

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